Points of Divergence : Germany

Points of divergence concerning alternate historical developments within the modern day territory of Germany.

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• WI: Roman Wilhelmsburg
• Challenge: Make Europe as Germanic as possible
• Challenge: Make the Goths more succesful
• Challenge: Latin-speaking Germany
• Challenge: Slavic Germany
• Challenge: Survival of Slavic peoples around the Elbe until the present
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• Holy Roman Empire PODs
• HRE centered on Italy instead
• France and Germany with switched historical roles
• France and Germany with switched historical fates
• Greater German east settlement (multiple threads)
• Challenge: Earlier German Identity
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• Holy Roman Empire PODs
• Challenge: Earlier German Identity
• Ottonians making their dynasty hereditary
• Holy Roman Empire not decentralising
• WI Frederick Barbarrosa hadnt drowned
• WI: Habsburg Polish-German Union
• WI: The Teutonic Knights invaded the Balkans ?
• Did the Teutonic Order stand any chance against Andrew II. of Hungary in 1225 ? - In other words, could the Order keep Burgenland ?
• WI: Germany unified at the same time as France and England
• A surviving house Hohenstaufen
• Plausibility check: If German lands of the HRE centralize earlier, will there be less war ?
• WI: No Battle of Grunwald/Tannenberg in 1410
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• A surviving house Hohenstaufen
• How would an Austrian-ruled Germany differ from its OTL equivalent ?
• Reformation PODs
• Catholic Brandenburg
• Plausibility check: No Westphalian Treaty
• Challenge: Aachen as the capital of Germany
• Map challenge: Bavarian Empire
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• WI Joseph-Ferdinand of Bavaria didn't die in 1699 ?
• What if the British teamed up with the Poles against the 18th century alliance of Prussia, Austria and Russia ?
• Plausibility check: Frederick the Great allied with Maria Theresa
• Seven Years War PODs
• Challenge: Unified Germany sans Prussia
• WI Russia and Austria attack Berlin after Kunersdorf (1759) ?
• WI: North/South German Federations with a POD in the 18th century ?
• Challenge: German Unification before 1820 (with a 1780 POD)
• Plausibility check: German India ?
• Challenge: German Switzerland (with a POD no earlier than 1800)
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• Challenge: German Unification before 1820 (with a 1780 POD)
• Napoleonic Wars PODs
• A different fate for Saxony
• Challenge: Some German states join the Swiss Confederation after 1815
• Plausibility check: German Confederation Congo ?
• Discussion on an earlier German Unification
• Challenge: Successful German Confederation
• WI: The German Confederation succeeds
• Bismarck dies at infancy : Effects on German unification ?
• Discussion on German unification by a country other than Prussia
• More discussion on different German unification
• No German Unification
• Denmark being included in the German Unification
• Challenge: Unified Germany sans Prussia
• Could the 1848 German revolutionaries have gotten more organized and more successful ?
• Plausibility check: Prussian-Russian minority exchange
• Challenge: Prussia visibly supports the Union in the American Civil War
• Austro-Prussian War
• Alternate German provinces in a world where the pre-1871 inner borders weren't abolished
• Frederick William IV becomes emperor in 1849 (German)

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• No Bismarck
• What could bring 19th century Germany closer to the UK ?
• Challenge: German Kongo
• Late 19th century German Naval Laws PODs
• WI: A different Bride for Wilhelm I
• Challenge: German-Russian alliance in 1910s WWI with a POD in 1885, with both countries getting defeated in the war
• WI the League of Three Emperors lasts longer than until 1890 (as in OTL) ?
• Different development decisions in the pre-WWI German Kriegsmarine (lighter and more numerous warships
• Imperial Germany strikes against Social Democrats
• Switch perceptions of French and German military prowess
• WI US president McKinley or Theodore Roosevelt traded American Samoa for some German Pacific islands ?
• World War I PODs
• Discussion on Germany continuing WWI
• Discussion on a more favorable outcome of WWI for Germany
• Discussion on a different Schlieffen Plan and how it could have worked
• Discussion on a division of Germany after WWI
• Discussion on Germany taking Paris in 1914
• WI: The Germans find out about the French Army Mutinies in 1917
• Churchill's Dream : The Baltic Project
• Can the German Revolution of 1918 succeed ?
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• Challenge: Succesful socialist (but not communist) revolutions in Germany, Austria, France, Hungary and Poland in 1919, following the end of WWI
• 1919 Rhenish Republic and Anschluss
• Discussion on a communist Germany
• Challenge: Austria allowed to join Germany at Versailles
• WI Hitler is deported back to Austria in 1931 ?
• WI Ernst Rohm found out about his planned purge ?
• 1932 Weimar elections without Hindenburg
• German Civil War in 1933
• Discussion on Germany being controlled by non-Nazi fascists
• Outline of German aircraft carrier development
• The effects of the Luftwaffe not being founded as a completely separate branch of the armed forces
• The German military without the Nazis
• Could Weimar Germany have won WWII ?
• WI: Third Reich without World War Two ?
• WWI: 1930s Germany with a more anti-western than anti-eastern stance ?
• Kurt Schumacher getting elected SPD boss in 1932 or earlier
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• World War II PODs
• WI Free City of Danzig attacked by Germany in the spring of 1939, sparking an earlier start of WWII ?
• WI Nazi Germany was persuaded or decided itself to not attack Poland in 1939 ?
• WI Germany didn't attack Poland
• Discussion on Germany's chances of winning in WWII
• Effect on the LW if the RAF does better in the Battle of Britain
• Discussion on an earlier Operation Barbarossa
• Discussion on what exactly Nazi Germany's downfall was
• Operation Barbarossa: In what ways could it have been made more succesful ?
• WI the Germans in 1942 only seized Stalingrad in 1942 and did not go south ?
• Operation Barbarossa halted after Kiev
• Could Rommel have survived the purge ?
• Alternatives to the V1 & V2 rocket program
• No general Manstein
• How to save your skin in a Nazi Victory TL
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• Discussion on alternate redivisions
• DBWI: Germany split after the war ?
• WI: No Spiegelaffäre
• WI the German air force does not try to take the VTOL route in the 1950s/1960s
• WI Lockheed were caught bribing governments earlier ?
• WI Benno Ohnesorg is never shot ?
• WI no 5%-hurdle in the FRG ?
• WI: East Germany "pulls a Tinanamen" in 1989 ?
• Discussion on no German reunification in 1990
• Plausibility check: France and Germany still as constitutional monarchies today
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• Plausibility check: How large can Germany get ?
• Challenge: The Baltic Sea as somebody's Mare Nostrum
• Challenge: Alternate unifier of Germany
• Plausibility check: Germany never unifies into a single country
• What made Germany an industrial power ?
• Irish or German-dominated Argentina instead of Italian
• Hannoverian colonial empire
• Plausibility check: Deutsche California ?
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• Prussia from 1866 is ISOT to 1766
• 1914 Germany and Austria-Hungary empires trasported to 1715
• East Germany ISOTed to 1000 AD
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