Points of Divergence : France

Points of divergence concerning alternate historical developments within the modern day territory of France.

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• Vandal Corsica and Sardinia
• Challenge: Basque nation
• WI: Larger distribution of Basque/Aquitanian/Vasconic peoples
• Challenge: No France
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• Challenge: No France
• The Battle of Tours PODs
• WI: Kingdom of Arles incorporated into France earlier
• Challenge: Biscay Islands - Discussion about whether the islands on the southern side of Brittany, (Belle Île, Île d'Houat, Hoëdic, etc.) could get annected by a different country than France during the Middle Ages (á la The Norman Islands).
• Capetian and Valois dynasties PODs
• WI: Louis the Pious only had one son ?
• Challenge: Independent Occitania
• Challenge: A modern day independent Burgundy
• Louis (VIII) of France maring Eleanor of Brittany in 1195
• WI Philip the Fair does not destroy the Templar knights
• Plausibility check: Salic Law abolished for the French Throne in the 15th century
• Hundred Years War PODs
• Henry V, King of England and France
• Charles the Bold doesn't die at Nancy
• Challenge: Habsburg France+
• Surviving County of Provence
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• Challenge: A modern day independent Burgundy
• Implications of a more powerful French Navy (post-1500 POD)
• Incas meet the French instead of Spanish
• The House of Bourbon PODs
• Challenge: With a POD in 1600, make France the dominant world power (hypwerpower) by the 19th century
• Impacts of a protestant France
• WI: Henry IV remains Protestant ?
• Wars of Religion PODs
• WI: No Louis XIII of France
• WI : A different Louis XIV
• Thirty Years War PODs
• Challenge: Habsburg France
• A much earlier French republic ?
• Plausibility check: California is settled by the French
• WI France takes New Amsterdam/New Netherlands instead of the English ?
• Implications of a surviving France Antarctique & France Équinoxiale ?
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• The House of Bourbon PODs
• Implications of a more powerful French Navy (post-1500 POD)
• Seven Years War PODs
• A French New Zealand ?
• WI The French Revolution Happened 30 years earlier ?
• WI: In 1763, France surrenders Saint Domingue colony (modern day Haiti), but retains Canada ?
• Plausibility check: Republican Vendee (with a 1770s POD)
• Turgot supported by Louis XVI (German)
• WI Louis XVIII fathers a son ?
• Plausibility check: early French Central bank ?
• French revolution precedes the American revolution
• Various French Revolution PODs
• WI Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette had escaped ?
• WI Necker remained finance minister of France
• WI: Louis XVII survived ?
• Challenge: Revolutionary France doesn't go to war, is semi-accepted by Europe
• Antoine Lavoisier not executed during the French revolution, effects on chemistry
• WI: Academie Francaise permanently abolished
• French Economic History (1789 to 1848)
• Challenge: Balkanize France after 1800 AD
• Napoleon Bonaparte PODs
• Napoleonic Wars PODs
• WI France hadn't sold the Louisiana territory ?
• Challenge: Louisiana War of 1804
• Challenge: France regains North American colonies
• Charles X restored Bourbon King of France in 1815
• What would be a good post-Napoleonic POD for a France-wank ?
• WI prince Ferdinand Philippe Duc d'Orleans doesn't die in a carriage accident ?
• Could 19th century France hold onto the Rhineland ?
• Napoleon III's biggest mistake
• Was Napoleon III really that dumb?
• Franco-Prussian War PODs
• Challenge: Restoration of the French Monarchy (POD mus be between September 4th, 1870 and October 24th, 1929)
• Consequences of an Orleanist Restoration in the 1870s
• Challenge: Authoritarian France by 1930 (with a POD between 1871 and 1914)
• WI: Boulanger leader of France
• Challenge: Alternate Dreyfus Affair
• Plausibility check: Fascism in France
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• Challenge: Make France a superpower by 2000 with a post-1900 POD
• Implications of a more powerful French Navy (post-1500 POD)
• Switch perceptions of French and German military prowess
• Anglo-French War in the early 20th century
• Challenge: Restoration of the French Monarchy (POD must be between September 4th, 1870 and October 24th, 1929)
• World War I PODs
• WI: Clemenceau is killed before the Versailes Conference, resulting in lighter terms for Germany
• Challenge: Succesful socialist (but not communist) revolutions in Germany, Austria, France, Hungary and Poland in 1919, following the end of WWI
• Plausibility check: Fascist France
• WI: No Pierre Laval government of 1931
• Franco-Italian War in the early to mid 30s
• Challenge: A French Civil War instead of the Spanish Civil War
• Plausibility check: France having a civil war at the same time as the Spanish Civil War
• WI: UK and France intervene in Spanish Civil War
• WI France ditches the Maginot Line concept ?
• World War II PODs
• A better-prepared France in WWII
• WI: Longer Maginot Line
• Challenge: Switch France with Italy in WWII
• WI Admiral Darlan threw his lot in with Nazi Germany ?
• WI Petain acquitted ?
• WI: French press Saar Offensive
• Was the fall of France in 1940 preventable if there was a change in leadership ?
• Renaud's government refuses armistice
• WI: Charles de Gaulle dies in 1940 ? (1)
• WI: Charles de Gaulle dies in 1940 ? (2)
• WI: De Gaulle dies instead of Sikorski
• WI: No Free French in WWII
• Challenge: Discredited French Resistance
• WI: Vichy France an Axis belligerant and no Free French
• WI Vichy France contests invasion of French Indochina ?
• D-Day Repulsed
• A more graceful French exit from colonialism ?
• Consequences of no French conquest of Algeria ?
• WI: France transfers Foreign Legion to UN
• Plausibility check: French neo-fascist movement in the late 1960s/early 70s ?
• DeGaulle assassinated
• Challenge: A French "Falklands War" in the late twentieth century
• Coluche goes for the Presidency
• What if FR3 was privatized, instead of TF1?
• Plausibility check: France and Germany still as constitutional monarchies today
• WI the 1994 Eiffel Tower terrorist attack succeeds ? (1)
• WI the 1994 Eiffel Tower terrorist attack succeeds ? (2)
• WI the 1994 Eiffel Tower terrorist attack succeeds ? (3)
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• A plane attack on the Eiffel Tower on 9/11 ?
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• Revolutionary France ISOTed to the 8th century
• Charles de Gaulle receives a 100 AMX-30 tanks in early 1940
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