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Points of Divergence: Anjou dynasties / Angevines

The Angevins were one of the major and most widely branched noble and ruling dynasties of European histories. They affected the history of their native France, of the British Isles, of Italy (especially Naples) and of Hungary and Poland.

These are points of divergence concerning various alternate developments and outcomes in the various branches of the Angevins.


Angevins in France and Britain

The Count of Anjou tries to invade Normandy while William of Normandy invades England

Challenge: House of Anjou (or cadet branches) Emperors of the West

William Adelin and Matilda of Anjou have a son who marries Eleanor of Aquitaine

Louis VII and Eleanor of Acquitaine deceased, their daughter Marie marries Henry d’Anjou in 1160

A few tweaks to the heirs of Anjou

Challenge: Have the land holdings of the Capetian House of Anjou belong to one man by 1400

HRE emperor Frederick III marries Margaret of Anjou (1)

HRE emperor Frederick III marries Margaret of Anjou (2)

Margaret of Anjou dies in childbirth

Margaret of Anjou dies childless

Margaret of Anjou giving birth to Henry VI's son, Edward of Lancaster

WI: Margaret of Anjou has more children

Elizabeth Woodville & Margaret of Anjou

WI: Nicolas d'Anjou survives instead of dying in Nancy in 1473

Plausibility check: Nicholas of Anjou surviving, marrying Mary of Burgundy, becoming King of France

WI: Charles IV, the Duke of Anjou and Provence, had an heir ?

Margaret of Anjou, Queen of England

Plausibility check: Elizabeth I of England marries the Duke of Anjou

Phillip de Bourbon (previously Duke of Anjou) discussion

Philippe, Duke of Anjou, becomes King of France

The young duc de Bretagne {duke of Brittany) is saved instead of the young duc de Anjou (duke of Anjou)

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Angevins in Italy

WI Charles of Anjou loses the Battle of Tagliacozzo ?

WI Manfred Hohenstaufen, King of Sicily, defeats Charles of Anjou

Plausibility check: Could Charles of Anjou ever hope to claim the Latin Empire ?

Plausibility check: Would Charles of Anjou risk a campaign against the Byzantines in the 1250s ?

Plausibility check: Charles of Anjou doing an invasion against the Byzantines in the late 1260s or early 1270s

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Angevins in Hungary, Poland and Austria

Plantagenet Hungary instead of Capetian Anjou Hungary

No Anjou on the throne of Hungary-Croatia

WI: Charles I of Hungary dies in the Battle of Rozgony/Rozhanovce on June 15 AD 1312

WI Polish-Hungarian Union ?

An alternate wife for Louis I of Hungary

Mary Anjou of Hungary and her unborn son don't die during a hunt. What are the ATL repercussions ?

WI: Sigismund of Luxembourg kicked from Hungary

WI: A different 'Marry Happy Austria'

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Angevins in other countries / Miscellaneous

WI House of Habsburg-Anjou-Durazzo

WI: Joanna of Castille marries Nicolas of Anjou

Joanna La Betraneja marries Nicholas of Anjou

Anjou France: An alternate Enlightenment - A mini-timeline by Kidblast, where the Angevins remain relevant for longer and become associated with an ATL Enlightenment era by the 18th century.


See Also

Points of Divergence: Capetian and Valois dynasties

Points of Divergence: The Bourbons

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Italian PODs

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