Margaret of Anjou marries Frederick III

[LeopoldPhilippe]

At one time, the recently elected Holy Roman Emperor, Frederick III showed some interest in marrying Margaret, the daughter of René of Anjou.
Suppose Margaret of Anjou does not marry King Henry VI of England.
Suppose she marries Holy Roman Emperor Frederick III. What happens then?

 

[Mikestone8]

Depends whom Henry VI marries instead.

Basically, anyone who isn't French would be a vast improvement.

 

[Ladymadchan]

If Henry VI marries earlier and quickly produces a male heir (or preferably an heir and a spare and some daughters) his reign may be seen as much more stable…

Some matches
-There's no Burgundian match, since Philip the Good didn't have a daughter the right age, but his nieces the Cleves girls might have had a distant shot, Agnes or Helen were the right age,
-Frederick III's sisters may have a shot especially after he's crowned HRE in 1440, Catherine of Austria was close enough in age
-Another interesting possibility are the older half sisters of Ferdinand of Aragon, Blanche and Eleanor of Navarre, both are very close in age to Henry VI, and the oldest will become an heiress to Navarre after their brother dies, and Aragon has had its conflicts with France
-No candidates in Castille
-There not too many girls amongst Portuguese infantas either, pretty distantly in the royal line there's the mentally ill Isabella of Portugal the OTL mother of Isabella of Castile or her sister Beatrice of Portugal the OTL mother of Manuel I of Portugal

None of these options are really great. The pickings are pretty slim.

 

[kasumigenx]

The obvious match for Henry VI is Isabella of Armagnac who married her brother.

 

[Mikestone8]

Beatrice of Portugal is interesting, since as a great-granddaughter of John of Gaunt, she would (given that she becomes an English subject on her marriage) have a claim to the English throne inn her own right. Might Henry recognise her as his heor-presumptive in the event of his dying childless?

 

[Ladymadchan]

The obvious match for Henry VI is Isabella of Armagnac who married her brother.

Hmm all of her sisters (Marie and Eleanor) are the right age. But they're Frenchwomen and I don't think they come from a suitably prestigious family for a King of England. Even Margaret of Anjou father called himself "King" but was very much solidly a Duke.

Beatrice of Portugal is interesting, since as a great-granddaughter of John of Gaunt, she would (given that she becomes an English subject on her marriage) have a claim to the English throne inn her own right. Might Henry recognise her as his heor-presumptive in the event of his dying childless?

She was a character on the tv series Isabel. I believe she acted as an ambassador to her niece Isabella of Castille met with her and helped settled both both the Treaty of Alcáçovas and the Treaty of Terçarias de Moura. Came off as being pretty competent in preserving Portugal's interests and her son's rights to the throne. She also ends up as being one of her son's advisors after he becomes King. That competency and willingness to get involved in politics could work to her detriment in England.

Also if she and Henry VI had children, the possibilities are all over the map. Since mental illness ran in both of their families, their children could have huge problems or they could end up having children who have the potential to become outstanding monarchs like Henry V and Isabella of Castille.

 

[LeopoldPhilippe]

Holy Roman Emperor Frederick III marries Margaret of Anjou.
Their children are:
Lothair
Ernest
Johanna
Isabella
René

 

[LeopoldPhilippe]

King Henry VI of England marries Blanche of Navarre (1424-1464).
After the demise of her brother Charles in 1461, some Navarrese and some of the anti-Aragonese party regarded Blanche as the rightful queen.
She would have been Queen Blanche II of Navarre.

If Blanche was the Queen Consort in England, would she still have people who would want her to be the Queen Regnant in Navarre?

 

[LeopoldPhilippe]

Henry VI of England marries Helen of Cleves (1423-1471), a daughter of Adolph I, Duke of Cleves and Mary of Burgundy in 1439.
Their children are:
Prince William
Princess Catherine
Prince John Adolph
Princess Mary

 

[LeopoldPhilippe]

King Henry VI marries the Infanta Beatrice of Portugal in 1446.
Their children are:
Prince John
Princess Philippa
Princess Isabella
Prince Edward

 

[Gonzaga]

Well, apparently Eleanor of Portugal was suggested as the second wife of the future Louis XI after Margaret of Scotland died. So, if Frederick III doesn't marry her, then she might become queen of France.

 

[LeopoldPhilippe]

Well, apparently Eleanor of Portugal was suggested as the second wife of the future Louis XI after Margaret of Scotland died. So, if Frederick III doesn't marry her, then she might become queen of France.

Eleanor was suggested to marry the King of France, but it was said, that she herself preferred to marry Frederick, because this would give her the title empress instead of queen.

 

[LeopoldPhilippe]

Eleanor of Portugal marries Louis, Dauphin of France in 1460.
She becomes the Queen of France in 1461. She lives numerous years past 1467.
The children of Eleanor and Louis XI are:
Eleanor
Marie
Charles
Eduard