Guys, love your eagerness and willingness to pitch in, it's inspiring.
But for contributions, maybe PM Lei before you post it here?
Apologies; I'll absolutely do that in the future.
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Apologies; I'll absolutely do that in the future.
LeinadB93
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Thank you so much for this!!! It really makes the world feel that bit more real
Keep it up!I'll take a look into them, thanks
. Probably not going to get to Croatia anytime soon, but György sounds like a possible candidate.Good idea, so Croatia is relatively peaceful throughout the Balkan Wars then. On second though I reckon Hungary would probably be "encouraged" not to get involved in the conflict by Britain, France and the Soviets.
How does this look as a proposal for the Balkans (white dot represent EU member):
Kingdom of Serbia - Originally the Federal People's Socialist Republic of Serbia, a Soviet-aligned Communist state from 1945 to 1992. Collapsed in the 1990s as Macedonia, Montenegro and the Albanian territories fought for independence. Restored the monarchy in 2001.
Kingdom of Croatia - Gained it's independence from Yugoslavia during WWII as a Hungarian puppet state, then underwent a pro-democratic uprising, supported by the new monarchy, which established the modern state. EU member since 2013.
Republic of Slovenia - Kind of independent by accident at the end of WWII, largely as a side effect of Croatian independence.
Kingdom of Montenegro - Independent as a result of the Balkan Wars, voted in 2006 to restore the monarchy.
Republic of Macedonia - Gained it's independence from Serbia during the Balkan Wars, but lost it's ethnically/lingusitically Albanian territory.
Kingdom of Albania (North Albania / Ghegeria) - Separated from South Albania as a result of the 1997-1999 Albanian Civil War, claims continuity with the People's Socialist Republic of Albania (disputed with South Albania). Restored the monarchy after the war.
Republic of Albania (South Albania / Toskeria) - Separated from North Albania as a result of the 1997-1999 Albanian Civil War, claims continuity with the People's Socialist Republic of Albania (disputed with North Albania).
Kingdom of Hungary - Continuation of the Post-WWI Kingdom of Hungary. Turns Fascist during WWII and allies with the Axis to restore pre-Trianon borders. Liberated at the end of the war but falls into the Soviet sphere; it become a de jure monarchy but de facto a semi-communist state. Otto Habsburg, later King Otto II, is restored to his throne in 1994 after democratic elections.
Kingdom of Rumania - Much like Turkey it aligns itself with the Axis but is liberated at the close of the war and falls into the Soviet sphere. The monarchy is not abolished but effectively become prisoners to the Soviet-aligned regime. 1989 Rumanian Revolution restores democracy.
Tsardom of Bulgaria - By virtue of Rumania not being conquered, Bulgaria survives as a Western-aligned monarchy.
Kingdom of the Hellenes - Avoids the military junta and coup.
A key point to note regarding the spread of Communism in Europea is that the USSR had to fight a much bigger Far Eastern Front against land-based Nationalist China, with whom they share a massive land border. Thus limiting the amount of Europe the USSR is able to grab at the end of the War. Hungary and Rumania were loosely tied to TTLs Warsaw Pact as de facto Communist states.
I really do appreciate the help
LeinadB93
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I think now might be the most appropriate time to post some Ground Rules For Contributing:
1) This is not meant to be a Shared World-style thread. It is my personal timeline/series, meaning I retain ALL final creative control over the series. However I do, as mentioned previously, welcome suggestions and contributions from all of you in order to help build the world.
2) Don't post anything (infoboxes, news bulletins, lists etc.) withought running your ideas past me first. There may be elements of established canon that you don't know about (mainy because I haven't posted it yet!)
3) I reserve the right to amend anything at anytime. If I want to change an aspect of the series that your post touches upon I will politely ask that you change it. I'm not doing this to be difficult.
4) Please don't post anything deliberately inflammatory or offensive.
5) Any Wikipedia Infoboxes not tagged with a Threadmark are not canon. I would like it if any Wikipedia Infobox posts not done by myself include an in-universe description just like I have been doing on previous threads. No Description = Not Canon.
1) This is not meant to be a Shared World-style thread. It is my personal timeline/series, meaning I retain ALL final creative control over the series. However I do, as mentioned previously, welcome suggestions and contributions from all of you in order to help build the world.
2) Don't post anything (infoboxes, news bulletins, lists etc.) withought running your ideas past me first. There may be elements of established canon that you don't know about (mainy because I haven't posted it yet!)
3) I reserve the right to amend anything at anytime. If I want to change an aspect of the series that your post touches upon I will politely ask that you change it. I'm not doing this to be difficult.
4) Please don't post anything deliberately inflammatory or offensive.
5) Any Wikipedia Infoboxes not tagged with a Threadmark are not canon. I would like it if any Wikipedia Infobox posts not done by myself include an in-universe description just like I have been doing on previous threads. No Description = Not Canon.
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Assassination of Bill Clinton (28 July 1998)
My thanks to Leinad for the help with improving the infobox and doing the write-up!
Bill Clinton, the Secretary of State for Justice and former First Minister of Louisiana, was assassinated on Tuesday 28 July 1998 at 13:17 Central Daylight Time in New Orleans, Acadiana while attending a public gathering at the Place d'Armes. Clinton was fatally shot by Martin LeDoux, a known Cajun nationalist, while he was speaking to members of the public alongside First Minister Mike Huckabee, who was also injured. An investigation by the Royal Louisiana Police concluded that although LeDoux acted alone, he had been a member of the Cajun Republican Army for a number of years, and that they aided in planning the assassination. LeDoux stood trial for Clinton's murder and was sentenced to a full life sentence without parole; he is currently serving his sentence at HMP West Feliciana. Clinton's assassination made him the most senior victim of the Louisiana Troubles and the only member of the Imperial Cabinet to be assassinated. His death would lead to improved security for senior politicians throughout Britain, as well as serve as a catalyst for the negotiations that led to the 1999 Good Friday Agreement, ultimately ending the Louisiana Troubles.
Bill Clinton, the Secretary of State for Justice and former First Minister of Louisiana, was assassinated on Tuesday 28 July 1998 at 13:17 Central Daylight Time in New Orleans, Acadiana while attending a public gathering at the Place d'Armes. Clinton was fatally shot by Martin LeDoux, a known Cajun nationalist, while he was speaking to members of the public alongside First Minister Mike Huckabee, who was also injured. An investigation by the Royal Louisiana Police concluded that although LeDoux acted alone, he had been a member of the Cajun Republican Army for a number of years, and that they aided in planning the assassination. LeDoux stood trial for Clinton's murder and was sentenced to a full life sentence without parole; he is currently serving his sentence at HMP West Feliciana. Clinton's assassination made him the most senior victim of the Louisiana Troubles and the only member of the Imperial Cabinet to be assassinated. His death would lead to improved security for senior politicians throughout Britain, as well as serve as a catalyst for the negotiations that led to the 1999 Good Friday Agreement, ultimately ending the Louisiana Troubles.
I'll take a look into them, thanks
If you do end up going with the Festetics, then the latest ruler would be Tasziló Mária Albert Festetics de Tolna, or if we were to Anglicize and Slavinize it, King Tassilo I Festetics/Tasilo I Feštetić. Third in the line, after his grandfather György (King George I Festetics/Juraj I Feštetić) and father György Pál Tasziló Festetics de Tolna (King George II Festetics/Juraj II Feštetić). Just keep that in mind!
Ah, that does make sense.
If Hungary is "encouraged" not to get involved, I'd imagine the same would go for Bulgaria, since they could swallow Vardar Macedonia if they wanted to.
We've managed to get the core details down for these two, and they seem rather fine! The only possible suggestion I could make when it comes to their borders is possibly having Slovenia reach into northern Croatia, specifically more into where the Kajkavian regiolect is spoken. Perhaps developments TTL have led to two Literary Agreements, one with the Serbs and one with the Slovenes, making Kajkavian and Čakavian de jure closer to Slovenian instead of just de facto? I recall someone made a good post about Slovenia in their timeline themed about a successful Lorković–Vokić plot. Could track that down. Other than that, seems good!
I have to wonder about the ruling family of Rumania - is it possibly the Cuza family, with Alexandru Ioan Cuza avoiding his OTL fate, or is it the Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen as per OTL? Same goes for the Hellad - Wittelsbach avoiding its OTL fate, Glücksburg as per OTL, or one of the many other possible families that foreign powers could've installed, such as the Romanovs? This does depend on how far Balkan political history has been changed though.
Personally, I don't think that Montenegro would've fought for independence that fiercy during the war, and would've probably stuck with the Serbs in the fight against the Albanians, especially since territories it would've considered traditionally theirs would've been claimed by them. Whether or not that figures into the final decision made by the foreign intervenors I don't know. Them voting for independence later on would likely make more sense, and no issues with them voting to restore the monarchy.
I'd actually imagine South Albania being the one becoming the monarchy more than the North. If we consider the idea of TTL!Communist Albania being heavier on Tosk support, among other possible factors, then it would only be natural that those that benefited the most would vote for the monarchy to come back. While Zog does come from the north, he had a lot of blood feuds from where he's from, which would make things a lot more complicated. So, the Gheg North, the one to suffer under communism the most, whether it be culturally in Albania or just in general in the FPRS, would probably demand democracy a lot more, and would disagree with a kingdom.
Also, the borders are still a bit rough looking. With the Albanians fighting probably being more ethnically-based than regionally, Kosovo and Metochia would more than likely just be split between ethnic lines, with North Kosovo saying under Serbian control. And since Montenegro probably would've fought with Serbia, then it would only make sense that their Albanian territories would become part of Ghegeria too. The border with Macedonia could've been smoothed out, perhaps with some forced population transfers after the war? Bit dark, but it could work.
Federal People's Republic would be just fine, adding the Socialist in there would be a bit redundant. Since Serbia and Albania are full-on communist states, it still seems a bit weird that they would be surrounded by kingdoms, even if two of them were technically in the Warsaw Pact. But that's beside the point. With this Serbia probably being worse than OTL, we can assume that Tito isn't on board. Perhaps he died in the war, or even helped in Slovenia more due to being from the Kajkavian North of Croatia if we consider that idea I proposed earlier. Perhaps he's substituted by Milan Gorkić in this timeline, somehow surviving the Great Purge TTL.
But the one thing I wanted to suggest is possibly making Serbia a republic - bit of an odd suggestion considering this timeline is also a monarchy-wank, but please hear me out. In my examples I've given on the topics I've looked into, one of the major things you may have noticed is that one of them relates to a successful Ičko's Peace, thus leading to the victory of the First Serbian Uprising, and how I've spoken on about how I think that could've led to a republican Serbia early on. Let's just imagine the impact that might have in the TTL!Balkans, a successful revolution leading to an Orthodox Slavic minority getting autonomy. Big implications for those who might imagine themselves as able enough to replicate such success.
Perhaps Mustafa IV stays in power long enough that all hell ends up breaking loose in the Balkans, leading to a flurry of possible events to come (Aromanians getting cheeky, Macedonian national identity developing earlier [maybe even Peonian if we wanted to change things for the better], Bosniak national identity developing earlier, etc), along with butterflies galore (such as butterflying the League of Prizren, thus getting rid of the Kararname, one of the major details of Albanian national unity, etc).
Seeing a successful Ičko's Peace in at least one timeline could be really neat, since most generally take the basic route and just ignore the developments of the Balkans altogether without looking into ways to spice it up a little! It'd be a fun factoid at least.
I really do appreciate the help
Don't know if you'll appreciate it after everything I've written above, but that does really mean a lot to me!
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Index of News Articles
LeinadB93
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I've decided that it would probably be best to establish an Index of News Articles so that we can easily find them as the thread becomes larger. They will be listed here by chronological order with their news outlet and author:
- 30 July 2017 - BBC News: Maduro declares victory in controversial vote (Nazi Space Spy)
- 3 August 2017 - BBC News: Texan ruling party holding leadership vote (wolfram)
- 4 August 2017 - KSTX: Hurd joins McCain on "Dewhurst or bust" train (wolfram)
- 6 August 2017 - BBC News: Baroness MacDonald, former Prime Minister, dead at 91 (Nazi Space Spy)
- 9 August 2017 - NRP Website: National Renewal Party Welcomes New Members (wolfram)
- 14 August 2017 - BBC News Brief (Nazi Space Spy)
- 14 August 2017 - Texas Monthly: David Stays, Sid Leaves: Your Texas Roundup (wolfram)
- 15 August 2017 - BBC News: Same-Sex Marriage Legalised in Westralia (LeinadB93)
- 22 August 2017 - BBC News Brief (Nazi Space Spy)
- 28 August 2017 - BBC News Brief (Nazi Space Spy)
- 1 September 2017 - BBC New: Patagonian Government Loses Budget Vote (LeinadB93)
- 4 September 2017 - BBC News: Royal Baby; UN Security Council Resolution on Haiti (LeinadB93)
- 1 October 2017 - BBC News Brief (Nazi Space Spy)
- 6 October 2017 - BBC News Columbia (Wayside)
- 16 October 2017 - BBC News: Puerto Rico Crisis (Nazi Space Spy)
- 27 October 2017 - BBC News Brief - Texas Election Special (LeinadB93)
- 1 November 2017 - BBC News Brief (LeinadB93)
- 19 November 2017 - BBC News Brief (LeinadB93)
- 26 November 2017 - BBC News: Pierluisi Resigns, Trumka Replaces (LeinadB93)
- 28 November 2017 - BBC News: Prince Harry and Meghan Markle Engaged (LeinadB93)
- 3 December 2017 - BBC News: 60% of Breton Support Independence (LeinadB93)
- 6 December 2017 - BBC News Columbia: Lehigh Valley imperial by-election (Wayside)
- 10 December 2017 - BBC News: Leaked Report Describes "Financial Irregularities" at the WPA (LeinadB93)
- 17 December 2017 - BBC News: Charles-Henri, 8th Prince of Acadiana, dead at 93 (LeinadB93)
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British Imperial Political Parties
LeinadB93
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Yes there is an established list:
The party of the Labour movement, the Social Democrats were formed in 1901 when the Social-Liberal Group (1876-1901) rebranded itself as the Party of Imperial Social Democrats. Although they can be quite left-wing, less so since Socialist Labour broke away in 1974, under the leadership of Tony Blair, Jack Layton and Sylvia Lim the party has consolidated it's position as the dominant centre-left party in Imperial politics. Traditionally strong in the British Home Isles, Virginia and Australasia, in recent decades national affiliates have performed strongly in other parts of Britain-in-America, mainly Oregon, Missouri and Canada.
The Social Democrats have two distinct factions within the party: the Progressives; suburban and middle-class reformists who are the remants of the Imperial Alliance of Progressives that merged into the SDP in 1991, they are generally more socialy liberal then mainstream SDP members, and the Farmers; rural agrarians, though they can be quite conservative on some issues. Originally a separate party in Imperial politics, it rebranded itself in 1906 into the Progressives.
The party of the centre-right, the Conservatives are considered to be Britain's natural governing party, having held power for 75 out the 141 years of the nation's existence. As the name suggests it is a broad grouping encompassing various centre-right conservative parties in the Dominions. The Unionist part of their name comes from the 1912 absorbtion of the Imperial Unionists, a splinter faction of the Liberals that helped to bring down the Stevenson Government in 1892 over the issue of free trade and Imperial Preference.
The party is generally pro-government and espouses conservative economically liberal policies, although there are two distinct strains of conservatism at the Imperial level; One Nation and Thatcherism. The current leader Luis Fortuño of Puerto Rico is seen as belonging to the One Nation group. An odd situation exists with the Australian Country Party whose Westminster MIPs caucus with Tories whilst not being affiliated with the ICDU.
The broad tent party of the political centre, the Liberals are a catch-all party catering for social liberals and liberal conservatives, with parties such as the Australian Liberal Party regularly sending "Blue Lion" liberals to Westminster. Being a "big tent" alliance, Liberal governments have favoured policies such as balanced budgets, tax reductions and increased infrastructure, as well as supporting the 1972 change to the voting system, the 2013 legalisation of same-sex marriage across the U.K.E. and advocating for the decriminalisation of cannabis.
Although historically the party did very well across the entire Empire, the rise of the Labour movement in the British Home Isles, Australasia and Britain-in-America has weakened the party, meaning they not been able to form a majority government since Sir Wilfrid Laurier (1908-1915). However they have retained a lot of their support across Britain-in-America and Australia by adopting socially liberal policies.
The Imperial Greens were founded in 1980 as a broad multi-issue party dedicated to Green politics, social justice and grassroots democracy. Although generally considered to sit on the centre to left-wing of the spectrum, there are some factions of the party who advocate for eco-conservatism. The largest distinct faction within the Greens are the technocratic environmentalist Future parties, mainly drawing support from Florida, Puerto Rico and the Oceanian dominions.
The core values of the Greens are around stewardship and conservation of the environment, expressed through eco-socialist and eco-conservtive policies such as the introduction of a carbon tax, and the promotion of renewable energy over non-renewable. The Greens have historically done very well nationwide as a result of MMP; at the 2015 election only 9 of their MIPs were from constituencies, whilst the other 41 were list MIPs.
The British Heritage Party traces its origins back to the National Tory Union which was formed in 1957 when the Carolina Conservatives broke with the Imperial Conservatives over the expulsion of segregationists from the party. In Carolina they formed the Southern Tory Party but the expelled MIPs formed the NTU, commonly known as the American Tory Party. The party lasted until 1967 when it merged with the far-right British National Front and the socially conservative Christian Heritage Party to form the modern Heritage party.
The party is generally seen as sitting on the right-wing of the British political spectrum, advocating British nationalism, social and fiscal conservatism and supporting the Christian right. They support a reduction of the U.K.E. national debt and imperial budget deficit by reducing government spending, and for lower taxes, as well as opposing much of the welfare state, legalisation of same-sex relationships and other socially liberal issues.
The Alliance of Regions is a veritable smorgasbord of regionalist/nationalist/sovereignist parties with campaigns calling for everything from more powers in their regions to outright independence. With no coherent central ideology, the AoR is a mixed bag of political parties from across the spectrum, but mainly from the centre to the left-wing, with the right-wing nationalist generally affiliating with either the Heritage Party or the Populists.
The foundations of the AoR can be traced back to 1876, when the Irish Home Rule Party gained representation in the Imperial Parliament. Since then there have been regionalists and nationalists of every colour serving as MIPs. But the change to MMP in 1973 caused problems as it significantly reduced their influence. The Liga Hispanófono had been a fixture in the Imperial Parliament since the 1900s, whilst the Francophone parties had merged in the 1930s as the Bloc National and in 1961 the Celtic nationalists had formed the Celtic League. Eventually the three formed the AoR in 1999 as a "united front" for regionalists, nationalists and sovereignists.
The closest the party has ever come to power was between 2008 and 2010 when they had a Confidence and Supply agreement with the minority Hayes Government. The AoR do not elect a leader in the same way as other parties, instead they appoint a Spokesperson from amongst their MIPs every three years, generally rotating amongst the various groups. As of 2017 their spokesperson is Célina Voisenon, MIP for Acadiane Centrale and member of the Bloc National.
The Progressive Conservatives broke away from the "mainstream" Conservatives in 1984, after Margaret Thatcher led them to a majority in the House (a rarity under MMP) and began to intoduce policies that would later be known as "Thatcherism". John Anderson of the Ohio Country led 17 MIPs, including former PM Flora MacDonald, into the new party and reduced the Tories to a slim minority. The PCs are generally seen as moderate conservatives on most issues, although they are socially liberal on things like same-sex marriage (they supported the 2013 Marriage and Civil Partnerships Act).
Although they performed well in the 1980s and early 90s by drawing moderate conservative voters away from Thatcher and Bush. They have suffered a decline in recent years as the Tories have moderated their approach to many issues. The PCs tend to only perform well in certain Dominions, namely Canada, New England, the Ohio Country and Missouri (where they are the main centre-right party). However they have begun to gain popularity amongst voters in the non-white-majority Dominions, such as Singapore and Hong Kong, as an alternative to the Tories.
The Libertarian Party of Great Britannia was founded in 1971 by John Hospers and David Nolan who were concerned by the recent election of Enoch Powell as leader of the Conservatives, the ongoing Granadine Crisis and the introduction of price controls by the Javits and Kirk governments.
Libertarians promote classical liberalism, and considers themselves to be more culturally liberal than the centre-left, but more fiscally conservative than the centre right. They promote civil liberties and propose lowering taxes, reducing the national debt, dismantling the welfare state and replacing it with private companies. They supported same-sex marriage in the 2013 referendum, oppose capital punishment and support ending the prohibition on illegal drugs.
The Imperial Socialist Labour Party was born in 1974 after the death of Social Democratic Prime Minister Norman Kirk and his replacement with Barbara Castle. Anthony Benn, 2nd Viscount Stansgate, led a mass-defection of 54 MIPs from the extreme left-wing of the party to the new party, which became the fourth largest party in the Imperial Parliament overnight. The situation left the Social Democratic-Progressive coalition lacking a majority, forcing either an early election or a coalition with the SLP.
Although they have declined significantly since 1974, as only 17 of their MIPs were returned at the 1976 election, the SLP continues to be a major force in some Home Nations, namely Sierra Leone, Gibraltar and the West Indies. They sit on the left-wing of the spectrum, and advocate democratic socialist policies, although recent leaders have begun to soften their stance by promoting eco-socialist and syndicalist ideas.
The Populists are a right-wing populist party who are characterised by an "anti-establishment" attitude, as well as advocating British unionism and nationalism. The party was founded in 1990 as a rebranding of the Confederation of Regions in order to appeal to the growing populist movements in Canada, Missouri and England, largely at the expensive of right-wing Conservatives and the Heritage Party, although a lot of their strength has declined in recent years with the realignment of the Reform Party of Canada to the Tories. Infamously opposed to the accession of Sierra Leone, the Populists are anti-immigration, although they support closer ties with the Commonwealth, and generally portray themselves as the "defenders of the British people".
Exactly as the name suggests, the British Republican Movement is a broadly left-wing group dedicated to the abolishment of the Monarchy as its replacement with an elective Presidency. There is a great deal of debate within the Movement about what form a British Republic would take, with some advocating a ceremonial President appointed by the Imperial Parliament whilst others suggest an executive President much like the Texan system, elected by nationwide popular vote. The grouping reached a high point at the 2001 election were it took 5 seats, but since then has been reduced to 2; Dennis Murray (Sandusky) and Sebastian Teo (North Singapore).
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Nazi Space Spy
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I hate to keep ramming questions at Leinad and TD, but for worldbuilding purposes can you give a quick rundown of the 2015 results with seat numbers?
Also I'm fascinated by the Populists/Heritage dynamic. That's pretty awesome. Kinda like UKIP and the BNP or the alt-right/alt-lite.
Also I'm fascinated by the Populists/Heritage dynamic. That's pretty awesome. Kinda like UKIP and the BNP or the alt-right/alt-lite.
We plan to release a rather big election infobox with a write-up in the near future. Keep an eye out for that.
A really fascinating timeline. One of the more interesting idea's I've ever seen on this sight.
Nassouwen; 2016 provincial election
LeinadB93
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This might interest you:
Nassouwen is a province of the Commonwealth of Columbia located in the northeast of the country bordered by New York and Long Island, New Jersey and Pennsylvania to the south, Genesee and Lake Ontario to the west, Adirondack to the north, and the New England provinces of Vermont, Massachusetts and Connecticut to the east. Nassouwen is the only province of Columbia, and one of only two parts of the Empire, alongside the Ohioan province of Macatawa, to have a predominantly Dutch-speaking population.
Historically inhabited by Iroquoian- and Algonquian-speaking Aboriginal Americans, the modern region of Nassouwen came under the control of the Dutch colony of New Netherland in the early 17th century, although settlement was limited to the Hudson River valley, mainly around the modern cities of Beverwijck and Wiltwyck. The Dutch would cede the area to England in 1674. Many Dutch families in New Amsterdam, which had been renamed New York, resettled along the Hudson River in towns like Beverwijck, renamed Albany, Wiltwijck and Schenectady, helping to preserve the Dutch language and culture in the region. Settlers to the region integrated into the local Dutch community, rather than supplanting it with English society, and despite concerns in England about separatist tendencies, the region remained loyal and lucrative for the fur trade.
Prior to the Seven Years' War, the first Colonial Congress was held in Albany in 1754 to debate a treaty with the Mohawk and discuss the possibility of a colonial union to defend against the French. Although the colonies were lukewarm to the idea, King-Emperor Frederick I supported it and the Albany Congress remained in session throughout the Seven Years' War. After the war, with the seizure of New France, the borders of New York expanded to Lake Ontario, Lake Champlain and Niagara Falls, and these new regions were largely settled by English settlers independent of the Dutch settlements along the Hudson. The 1768 Treaty of Fort Stanwix established the modern border between Nassouwen and Genesee, with subsequent treaties between Britain and the Aboriginal Americans ceding much of modern Nassouwen to British control, and when New York acceded to the Colonial Congress, so did Nassouwen.
The development of what at the time was considered "Upcolony New York" was spurred by the opening of the Erie Canal in 1825, which greatly eased the transport of goods between the port of New York and inland cities along the Great Lakes, providing a boost to the economy of the Dutch settlements in the Hudson River valley. During the Republican Rebellion (1848-1851) the Dutch in New York refused to take up arms against the British, despite the urging of republicans in New England, Quebec and New Jersey, and after the conflict the province joined with New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Maryland, Delaware, Genesee and Allegheny to form the Commonwealth of Columbia on 28 April 1856. Over the course of the mid-19th century there had been a political awakening of the Dutch community in provincial New York, as well as a corresponding desire for self-government separate from New York City. This culminated with the formation of the Dutch People's Party which advocated for the separation of the Hudson River valley as a separate Dutch-speaking province. This was successful in 1866 when New York was separated into three provinces; New York City and Long Island, Adirondack, and Nassouwen.
Throughout the 19th and early 20th centuries, Nassouwen became a major centre of industry in British America and a hub of manufacturing. However in the late 20th century a decline in those industries damaged the provincial economy, forcing it to adapt. Nassouwen supports a strong agriculture industry, and is notable for its milk and dairy products, its fruit production, and winemaking, and is home to rapidly growing techonology and green energy industries. Demographically Nassouwen remains dominated by Dutch-speakers, with nearly 83% of the population speaking Dutch as their first language, and with Dutch and English taught in all schools 93% of the population are conversationally fluent in both languages.
The 2016 Nassouwen provincial election was held on 4 January 2016 to elect, under the single transferable vote, the 84 seats to the Nassouwen House of Representatives. Provincial elections in Nassouwen use a proportional representation system, with seats allocated to parties based on their share of the popular vote.
The incumbent centre-right Nassouwen People's Party (Nassouwen Volkspartij; NVP) government of Justen Neijenhuis, having been the governing party of Nassouwen since 2007, collapsed in October 2015 when the right-wing Christian Democratic Party (Christen-Democratisch Partij; CDP) refused to support their proposed budget and spending cuts to public services. This was the fifth time in the 21st century that the House held early elections. The election was tightly fought around the issue of the Nassouwen economy, with the NVP campaigning to tighten the budget by reigning in unnecessary spending, whilst the opposition centrist Democrats for Nassouwen (Democraten voor Nassouwen; DvN), led by Anneke Stuyvesant, daughter of the 12th Viscount Stuyvesant, pledged to boost the economy by providing incentives to renewable energy and technoolgy industries to move to the province.
On polling day the DvN succeeded in displacing the NVP as the largest party in the House but failed to convert their vote surge into a majority. The radical centrist Alliance of Moderate Centrists (Alliantie van Matige Centristen; AvMC) also increased their seats, whilst both the centre-left Labour Party (Partij van de Arbeid; PvdA) and the CDP lost seats, and the left-wing United Left and the Greens (Verenigd Links en de Groenen; VL/G) held steady.
After tense negotiations at Stadt Huys in the days after the election, even involving the Governor, Sir Boudewijn Oemes, Stuyvesant announced a coalition deal involving the DvN, the AvMC and the PvdA with party leaders Pieter Mannessen and Mieke Badelman serving as Co-Deputy Premiers. Stuyvesant was sworn in on 15 January 2017 as the 23rd Premier of Nassouwen.
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Just because Lei didn't mention it, the DvN is the Nassouwen branch of the SvdCN, although a bunch of its voters definitely vote Liberal in Imperial elections.
Although I'm not entirely sure where the Liberal affiliation is, to be honest.
Although I'm not entirely sure where the Liberal affiliation is, to be honest.
LeinadB93
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TBH, Nassouwen politics don't follow the mainstrem in Columbia (though neither does New York and Long Island). None of the parties are "officially" affiliated at the federal or imperial level, but TB is right in that the DvN are the main body support for the federal SvdCN. However a lot of their membership goes to the Progressive Liberals. The NVP is the centre-right party, and generally supports the federal Conservatives. AvMC is the most integrated at the federal level with the Moderate Centre Party, whilst PvdA members vote for the Democratic Left and the VL/G is split between the DLP and the federal Greens. The CDP generally goes for the Heritage or Populists.
Just curious, are you a Dutch-American or someone who lives in *Nassouwen?
As a resident of OTL's Clarksburg, I can't wait for the infobox on Virginia...and Carolina, too
Is the culture of those two dominions recognizable to OTL American Southerners? Or do they more resemble some area of OTL England?
Also, the Texas infobox referenced gridiron football. Does that mean sport evolved similarily in TTL's North America as in OTL?
Is the culture of those two dominions recognizable to OTL American Southerners? Or do they more resemble some area of OTL England?
Also, the Texas infobox referenced gridiron football. Does that mean sport evolved similarily in TTL's North America as in OTL?
We have some things planned for both of those Home Nations. I don't think it's a spoiler [you can figure it out if you read the party list Lei posted] but Virginia has a strong labour party that... doesn't exactly get along with the mainstream PISDP, truth be told. Very blue-collar, quite socially conservative and led by Joe Manchin, who's more economically leftish in ATL. Still an affiliate of the PISDP, though.As a resident of OTL's Clarksburg, I can't wait for the infobox on Virginia...and Carolina, too
Is the culture of those two dominions recognizable to OTL American Southerners? Or do they more resemble some area of OTL England?
Also, the Texas infobox referenced gridiron football. Does that mean sport evolved similarily in TTL's North America as in OTL?
Of course, Lei's welcome to smack me down if he thinks I've revealed too much.
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First of all let me say how glad I am that this finally happened. But secondly I want to ask about what's happening in Columbia, especially New York and Long Island. The most recent update has really got me interested in the region. Also, where are the Kennedys? Don't think I've seen them anywhere. Seems like a bad world for Catholics (especially the Irish).
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While I may sound like a broken record at this at stage, let me say again this is an amazing timeline. Now my questions are, why did local languages survive, instead of dying out and being replaced by English. And secondly what's the situation in Russia, since the Soviet Union seems to have collapsed, did the Union of Sovereign States plan work out. Excited to see more from this world.