Alternate Electoral Maps II

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  1. Charlie950 El gringo hispanohablante izquierdista

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    Yes please.
     
  2. Pericles Well-Known Member

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    Stronger Trump/GOP victory 2016
    2016 presidential election

    Donald Trump/Mike Pence-Republican: 47.43%
    Hillary Clinton/Tim Kaine-Democratic: 46.52%
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    2016 Senate elections

    Mitch McConnell-Republican: 54_
    Harry Reid(retiring)-Democratic: 44_
    Independent: 2_
    100 seats
    51 for majority
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    2016 House elections
    Paul Ryan-Republican: 245-2 50.6%
    Nancy Pelosi-Democratic: 190+2 46.5%
    435 seats
    218 for majority
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  3. Tex Arkana Spice for President!

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    2016 with Donald Trump as the Democratic nominee.


    Businessman Donald J. Trump (D-NY)/Senator Jon Tester (D-MT) 53% Popular Vote ~ 352 Electoral Votes
    Governor Susana Martinez (R-NM)/Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL) 46% Popular Vote ~ 186 Electoral Votes.


    Martinez wins New Mexico and Florida by slim margins due to the tickets home state advantage. Trump's best states are Vermont (D+40), West Virginia (D+31), and Arkansas (D+28).
     
  4. Oppo Nationalize Five Guys

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    Trump being the nominee isn't flipping West Virginia, the Dakotas, or Tennessee.
     
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  5. Tex Arkana Spice for President!

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    If he runs on a slightly more left-wing version of his IOTL platform, it does.
     
  6. Oppo Nationalize Five Guys

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    If he did, there's no way he wins the Democratic nomination.
     
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  7. Tex Arkana Spice for President!

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    This is obviously purely hypothetical, many of the scenarios here are extremely unlikely to ever happen.
     
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  8. Thomas Johnson Banned

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    I'd probably guess this (http://uselectionatlas.org/TOOLS/ge...=1;1;6&NE=2;2;5&NE1=2;1;5&NE2=2;1;5&NE3=2;1;6).
     
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  9. Tex Arkana Spice for President!

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  10. Wendell Wendell

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    Trump could have been the Democratic nominee in 2004, but is too conservative to have been such by 2016 assuming he is running to succeed Obama.
     
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  11. Wendell Wendell

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    Yeah, Edwards is implausibly conservative to be the victorious Democratic nominee against Trump.
     
  12. RightTosser Used Citra-Frost Salesman

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    No Access Hollywood tape, I guess?
     
  13. Tex Arkana Spice for President!

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    Trump had some very liberal views in the 90's and early 2000's. If he ran on those in 2016, he could have won the nomination in a split field.
     
  14. Pericles Well-Known Member

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    I'm not sure if that would be enough for this result I was thinking if Trump ran a better campaign and won the debates.
     
  15. Wendell Wendell

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    Notice I said that he could have gotten the Democratic nomination in 2004. By 2016, he's too pro-business, too rich, and too disinterested in identity politics to be the Democratic nominee even if he's still firmly pro-choice and for a single payer health care system. The things he's said about Barack Obama, and separately, about women, would sink him, especially if he faced down the Clinton machine for the 2016 nomination. Doubly so if he has Bernie to contend with too.
     
  16. AltFuture Incurable Germanophile

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    United States general election, 1994

    Election of 1994 ended in the victory of WOS-RC-P coalition. Majorities of the Moderates in both houses was shrunk, and Bob Dole lost his chancellor's office. However, a young and charismatic, rising star Al Gore (WOS-TN) was appointed as chancellor, being a leader of the formed coalition. Will his term bring prosperity?

    Congress of the States

    (at-large, number based on population)

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    436 seats, 219 to get majority
    Moderate (Bob Dole, M-KS) - 199 seats
    Workers of the South (Al Gore, WOS-TN) - 104 seats
    Reform Coalition (Jerry Brown, RC-CA) - 68 seats
    Progressives (Bernie Sanders, P-VT) - 56 seats
    Conservative (Orrin Hatch, C-UT) - 9 seats

    Ruling coalition: WOS-RC-P (228 seats)

    Federal Senate
    (at-large, two seats per state)
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    102 seats, 52 to get majority
    Moderate (Jack Kemp, M-NY) - 30 seats
    Workers of the South (Bill Clinton, WOS-AR) - 28 seats
    Progressives (Barbara Boxer, P-CA) - 21 seats

    Conservative (George Bush, C-TX) - 14 seats
    Reform Coalition (Ross Perot, RC-TX) - 9 seats
    Ruling coalition: WOS-RC-P (58 seats)

    Federal Chancellor: Al Gore (WOS-TN)
    Speaker of the HoS: Jim Cooper (WOS-TN)
    President of the Senate: Bill Clinton (WOS-AR)


    • Moderate (center-right; center (factions); big tent, neoconservatism (factions), liberal conservatism, big government conservatism, christian democracy)
    • Conservative (right; conservatism, fiscal conservatism, social conservatism, paleoconservatism (factions), christian right (factions))
    • Reform Coalition (center; big tent, populism, radical centrism, reformism, anti-establishmentarianism, social liberalism (factions))
    • Progressives (left; social liberalism, progressivism, social democracy, labor rights, left-wing populism)
    • Workers of the South (center-left; center (factions); "new liberalism", labor rights, moderate liberalism, Third Way, social liberalism, regionalism (factions), conservative liberalism (factions), communitarianism (factions))
     
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  17. Tex Arkana Spice for President!

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    If he decided to run as a Democrat, I'm sure he'd have no issues pandering to the base for votes just like he did in OTL when he ran as a Republican.
     
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    The Seventh Party System: Part XXIV
    Part I - Metropotamia
    Part II - Alta California
    Part III - North Carolina
    Part IV - New Jersey
    Part V - Adams
    Part VI - Alabama
    Part VII - Rhode Island
    Part VIII - Sequoyah
    Part IX - Assenisipia
    Part X - East Florida
    Part XI - Tennessee
    Part XII - Kansas
    Part XIII - Dakota
    Part XIV - Arizona
    Part XV - Delaware
    Part XVI - Oregon
    Part XVII - Ozark
    Part XVIII - New Hampshire
    Part XIX - Western Connecticut
    Part XX - New York
    Part XXI - Santo Domingo
    Part XXII - South Carolina
    Part XXIII - Baja California



    Chersonesus is another former labor state which has become a victim of the Social Credit movement, having been the first state to have a social credit plurality, and now the first state to have a social credit majority.

    While not as much of a Labor stronghold as neighboring Metropotamia, Chersonesus had for most of its first post-Nixon been a Labor safe state, only having once gone to the Republicans in 2004 through a coalition with Constitution and Social Credit as well. Of course this coalition quickly fell apart when the Constitution party and Social Credit had a falling out, leading to an early election in 2005 that saw Labor regain its majority.

    However in 2011, two years after the start of the Second Great Depression which caused the state to reach over 30% unemployment, the people demanded a change from Labor, leading to a Social Credit surge that saw them gaining the plurality of the vote, making Chersonesus the first state in which they had ever gained a plurality. After a Social Credit-Republican alliance lead to a reduction of the unemployment to only 8% over the course of four years, largely due to a massive infrastructure bill that put tens of thousands of Chersonesusians to work, people all across the country say that Social Credit was a viable alternative to Labor, a fact which contributed greatly to the Social Credit surge of 2016.

    Thus, in 2017 Social Credit was rewarded for their policies with being granted a solid majority in government, making Chersonesus the first state to ever have a Social Credit majority. Without the Republicans shackling them down Social Credit plans to extend their economic policies even further, launching massive corporate taxes on all major business to pay for a "National Dividend" which guarantees a certain percentage of the state's GDP be given to its residents free of charge. Morally, Social Credit has also announced plans to launch a new era of sin taxes, adding over 100% to the prices of everything from alcohol and cigarettes to movie tickets and video games in order to reform society into a Christian utopia. While no one knows if the "Utopian experiment" in Chersonesus will work one thing is for sure, the nation's eyes will be on this small state of 1.7 million.

    Government:
    Social Credit - A socially conservative but economically left wing party the organization's wacky ideology was once denounced as lunacy by both the left and right who thought that they could never be a formidable force. However through successful marketing to Labor's white working class base, providing them a legitimate alternative which doesn't betray either their hearts or their pockets the party has seen an incredible rise over the past decade. And unlike in Saratoga where Social Credit rules in solely the coalition, the majority that they have won allows them to test run their plans of a true Utopia, though even the party's leaders exercise caution over the experiment's success as federal courts have struck down their initial plans to levy tariffs on other states and create a Chersonesusian currency.

    Opposition:
    Republicans - The party of Big Business, they were recently growing due to their support of the Social Credit coalition, however with Social Credit now possessing a majority the GOP leadership fears that they may never get a chance to be a part of government again.
    Labor - Originally the state's natural ruling party, Social Credit's rise has left them with only their diehard supporters and minority voters as their recent loss of 5 seats has doomed them to irrelevancy.
    Constitution- The party of hardcore social conservatism and economic liberalism, their usually small membership of Dutch Protestants has grown recently as many conservative Republicans join their ranks, believing that the only way to fight religious populism is with religious populism.

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    Credit for the basemap goes to Chicxulub.
     
  19. Tex Arkana Spice for President!

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    Guess what this map shows.
     
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  20. Keeganc2020 Well-Known Member

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    Clinton vs Bush vs Johnson
    I don't feel like it be trump because there'd be to much contrast between the two candidates for all of New Mexico to go thrid party


    Clinton
     
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