Alternate Electoral Maps

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  1. kodak Has much to learn

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    This looks like 1964 but with more black voters.
     
  2. Prussian1871 Well-Known Member

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    Democrats win everything except Louisiana, Mississippi, Georgia, and Alabama? I believe SC goes Dem there.
     
  3. Larry Young Well-Known Member

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    Right, except for South Carolina.
     
  4. Larry Young Well-Known Member

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    How did black voters modify the results?
     
  5. kodak Has much to learn

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    IOTL Goldwater won the majority-black areas of Alabama and Mississippi, because black voter registration in those states was still extremely low at the time.
     
  6. Larry Young Well-Known Member

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    Right; that is the change I made to this map from 1964. And I also turned Arizona into a Democratic win, and shifted counties in Florida.
     
  7. naraht Well-Known Member

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    The proper question here is "Did the Republicans win any states?" Also, is there a reason the base map here doesn't split Alaska into the Boroughs (and the unorganized borough) given that Louisiana is split into its parishes
     
  8. Larry Young Well-Known Member

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    Yes, Republicans won states. And I don't know why the map does it that way. It is how I found it.
     
  9. Larry Young Well-Known Member

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    Here is the map again, with the Results:
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    Note that the Democrats are indicated as Atlas Red; Republicans as Atlas Blue.

    Popular Vote:
    William B. Johannson (D-TX)/Katherine Harris (D-NY)-61.05%-489 EV
    George H. Lewis (R-NC)/Jackson Beauregard (R-LA)-38.47%-49 EV

    Close States:

    Margin of victory <6%

    Idaho-1.83%
    Georgia-2.30%

    West Virginia-4.00%
    Tennessee 4.72%
    Nebraska-5.21%
    Arkansas 5.51%
    Margin of victory <10%

    Florida-7.36%
    Kentucky 7.45%
    North Carolina-7.72%
    South Carolina-8.25%

    Kansas-9.03%
    Utah-9.73%

     
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    To Today

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    President Adrian Viedt/General Wesley Clark - 201
    President Adrian Viedt/Vice President John McCain - 167
    Governor Lincoln Chafee/Senator George Allen - 170

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    Senator Mike Gravel/Governor John F Kennedy Jr - 377
    Senator George Allen/Governor Mike Huckabee - 161

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    President John F Kennedy Jr/Vice President John Lewis - 402
    Governor Mike Huckabee/Senator Lindsey Graham - 136

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    Governor Susan Collins/Speaker of the House Jeb Bush - 283
    President John F Kennedy Jr/Senator John Edwards - 255
     
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  11. Rhad Banned

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    Is this related to the earlier Beauregard map?
     
  12. Larry Young Well-Known Member

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    No. It was another, different scenario I came up with.
     
  13. Nanwe Left-Macronista

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    So I was working on a PR electoral map for France, but I'm not a 100% sure if the merger of departements to make the constituencies makes sense in some place, so some feedback would be great!

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    Here is the fourteenth installment in my alternate American election series.

    Metropotamia
    Alta California
    North Carolina
    New Jersey
    Adams
    Alabama

    Rhode Island
    Sequoyah
    Assenisipia
    East Florida
    Tennessee
    Kansas
    Dakota


    Arizona is a rarity among American states, possessing a purely proportional electoral system without any sort of constituencies. However even that is not its most defining feature, that would go to the political system that dominates most of the American Southwest, las columnas.

    Las Columnas were developed as a byproduct of the region's casta system, wherein people of varying skin tones would have varying social statuses and rights. While the old system of segregation has gone away the group identities that its people possess still dominate society, as people are divided into three columns, the Devout, the Workers, and the Bourgeoisie. The devout are the most conservative segment of the population which values church above all else, the workers are compromised of blue collar laborers, and the bourgeoisie includes everyone from the 1% to small business owners and white collar employees. During the era of the National Union party these divisions remained just societal in nature, however with its dissolution during the Conservative Revolution of 1972 these divisions appeared in the political sphere as well.

    With the state being 39% Hispanic and 50% White there exists parallel columnas for both races, and these different parties often hate their language counterparts due to large differences in policies and traditions. Has meant that Arizona has had a long history of messy coalitions which break and form for the smallest of reasons, leading to it calling elections much more frequently than every two or four years as in most other American states.

    However recently there has been a rise in bilingual parties which transcend the gap as they attempt to appeal to all columnas and all races. The first of these bilingual parties was the Green party in 2005, however the movement really began to gain steam with the start of establishment of the Progressive party of Arizona in 2010. Following the collapse of talks between the Republicans and Labor over their opposition to the Partido Revolucionario's inclusion to the planned "Purple" coalition another election was called in 2017 to attempt to form a government. In this new election one key factor was the rise of the Progressives, a bilingual party which drew away many traditionally Republican and Labor voters, growing their seat count from a meager 5 to an impressive 19. As such, the possibility for a solely left leaning government emerged, leading to a grand left of center coalition being lead by the Partido Revolucionario, supported by the Progressive, Ciudadanos, Green parties, as well as basic confidence agreements with the Democratic and First People's parties.

    Thus a new era dawned was beginning to arise in Arizona as the state appears to be heading the direction of Colorado towards a post-columna political system.

    Government:
    Partido Revolucionario - Originally a socialist party, the party moved towards the center during the late 70s and has remained the workers party for Latinos in Arizona ever since. With increased Mexican immigration to the state has come an increasing number of Hispanic laborers, leading to the Revolucionarios seizing the largest voteshare among Hispanics. Their main feud with Labor is the party's anti-immigrant stance, being more interested in protecting the jobs of pure-blooded Americans then the rights of those with Hispanic heritage.
    Progressive/Progresivo - The newest party in Arizona, it was started in 2010 with funding from the national Progressive party who saw a weakening in the state's opaque columas after the start of the Second Great Depression. While the party still remained under the 1% threshold in 2012 following the election in 2016 it was able to gain 5 seats as a result of Labor's inability to end the Second Great Depression. And following the collapse of talks due to the Labor party's stubbornness a large scale collapse of Labor occurred, invigorating the Progressives in the process.
    Ciudadanos - A left of center liberal party it represents the interests of Hispanic small business owners, who are often disadvantaged under the Republicans' aid to Big Business. Although it has begrudgingly joined Republican lead coalitions in the past it prefers to ally itself with more left leaning parties and has a good relationship the more radical Partido Revolucionario.
    Greens/Verdes - An ecological and bilingual party it is the oldest cross racial party in Arizona, but has remained rather small due to its incessant calls for legalization of marijuana and championing of "traditional Mexican medicine."

    Supply:
    First People's Party - The party of Native Americans, its single minded purpose of securing funding for native reservations allows for the party to easily be enticed into supporting any government with the necessary votes of confidence.
    Democrats - The odd man out in a mostly left leaning government, their spite towards the Republicans for attempting to form a Purple coalition without the need for any religious support lead them to offer their limited support of the government in return churches from being exempt from the Revolucionarios' planned tax increases and a bit more. Representing the devout and mainly Protestant Christians of Arizona's white population their support is greatest in the countryside of white majority areas. Their main feud with the Union Democrata Cristiana is their more lax positions on various social positions as well as their support of tax exemptions for only Catholic Churches as Protestant Churches "preach heresy and hate."

    Opposition:
    Republicans - The largest party in Arizona, their base among white collar workers who also happen to be racially white leads them to dominate the suburbs of both Phoenix and Tucson. Unlike most Republicans of the West they are mostly socially liberal and hold a large distrust towards the Democrats. They also distrust the Ciudadanos greatly due to their support of raising taxes on big businesses which Republican white collar workers depend on for a paycheck.
    Union Democrata Cristiana - The party for conservative and Catholic Hispanics their overall position can be described as dead center due to their support of tax cuts, welfare programs, tolerance of abortion, and staunch opposition to homosexuality. Following the Catholic Church doctrine no matter what, they also advocate strongly for the tax exemption of all Catholic church properties in Arizona while at the same time strongly opposing any for Protestant churches which are seen as heretical.
    Labor - Once the dominant party among white workers, they have now been eclipsed by the Progressives who preach a much more tolerant and multicultural message. Up until election day the leadership of Labor remained bitterly stubborn, maintaining their position that increased immigration has only served to threaten the jobs of white union members. As a result of the near catastrophic results of this election the national Labor party has intervened and fired the entire management, and has entered talks with the National Progressive party into the possibility of discounting its local branch in favor of the Progressives' branch.
    People's Party - The Mormon interest party is considered too far right by most of the state's standards, however they have still been in a small number of supply and confidence agreements with sufficiently conservative governments.
    Partido de Dios - Fanatically devout Hispanics who subscribe to the new Pentecostal denomination, they are universally hated by pretty much everyone from Atheists who hate their fanaticism, Catholics who hate how much their evangelical movement targets wavering Hispanic Catholics, and even fellow Protestants who see the sect as little better than Mormons. However this persecution has also lead the followers of Pentecostalism to become even more of a solid voting block than the Mormons, proving themselves to be a significant protest party.
    Black Panther Party - The party of African-Americans, it remains to hold a presence in Arizona despite its low black population as the racial dynamics of las columnas has brought them together too.
    Libertarians - A more extreme version of the Republicans in practically every manner, their failure as a party in comparison to the large Libertarian parties in both Colorado and Jefferson can be owed to the political solidarity of Republican voters and the local leadership, or lack there of. With the state's head being unable to point out basic cities on a map and possessing a deep seated hatred of driver's licenses the leadership of the Libertarian parties in neighboring states can only cringe at the sheer lack of competence.
    Constitution - Normally a staple for religious rural folk the entrenched nature of the Democratic party due to the state's large number of military bases has left the religious right little presence.
    Asian Action - Having only recently passed over the 1% threshold in 2016, Asian Action now gives a voice to those centrist Asian voters who don't vote Progressive.

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    Credit for the basemap goes to Chicxulub.
     
  15. naraht Well-Known Member

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    Alternate name for Arizona is "New Belgium".
     
  16. Nanwe Left-Macronista

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    One note is that usually in Spanish "Christian Democrat" as an adjective or noun is just one word 'democristiano' or in this case 'democristiana'

    Also, progressive in a political sense is not 'progresivo', but 'progresista' (invariably whether it's a male or female noun).
     
  17. Utgard96 basically a load of twaddle about freedom

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    Would that still be the case in an official party name?
     
  18. Turquoise Blue Blossoming Tibby!

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    I have a feeling that's more just a "European Spanish" thing, as Latin American parties spell it two-words.
     
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  19. Nanwe Left-Macronista

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    That's what I'm wondering myself - after I wrote it that is. It could be both, I suppose depending on whether they want to signal that they are Christian democrats as an ideology, or Christian and democrats as a non-related political adjectives. That being said, it does appear on wiki that Demócrata Cristiano (as well as Social Cristiano) is more common in party names in general, including in Spain.

    This allows me to rediscover the 1970s EDCEE (Christian Democratic Team of the Spanish State) party that existed in the political parties' soup letter that was the early Transition.
     
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    Usually christian democrat as an ideology name is an ideology.
     
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