Alternate Electoral Maps
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Is this somehow assuming that no votes are subtracted from Clinton's total?
Pretty much. It's kinda sloppy math and is more of a rough estimate.
Example:
OTL percentage = 36.5%
New Percentage = 36.5%+10%
The Trumpocalypse, Part III
Reelection was the worst thing that could have happened to the 44th President of the United States. As if the collapse of the economy just before the Thanksgiving holiday was not enough, there was the prostitution scandal that brought down U.S. Attorney General Eliot Spitzer, the collapse of the Afghan War effort (and Secretary Wes Clark's resignation), and that was even before the 2010 midterm elections wherein Republicans won back both houses of Congress, and wiped out nearly an entire class of Democratic governors, until that point rising stars in their party. Even Democratic California delivered a surprise in the form of Abel Maldonado's defeat of Barbara Boxer in the Senate race. Trump's lame duck last two years as president left him a pawn to newly ascendant Republicans looking to address the recession with spending reductions and measures punishing illegal immigration, both of which the president supported, to the chagrin of his party and permanent ire of his vice president.
Tom Harkin's bruising primary battle with Bernie Sanders leaves all involved embittered, and leads to the latter running as an independent, seeing this moment as the one for democratic socialism in America. Sadly, it was not to be. For either of them....
The 2012 United States Presidential Election
Governor Mitch Daniels of Indiana/Senator Abel Maldonado of California (Republican) 483 Electoral Votes
Vice President Tom Harkin of Iowa/Senator Hillary Clinton of New York (Democratic) 48 Electoral Votes
Senator Bernie Sanders/Representative Neil Abercrombie (Independent) 7 Electoral Votes
Reelection was the worst thing that could have happened to the 44th President of the United States. As if the collapse of the economy just before the Thanksgiving holiday was not enough, there was the prostitution scandal that brought down U.S. Attorney General Eliot Spitzer, the collapse of the Afghan War effort (and Secretary Wes Clark's resignation), and that was even before the 2010 midterm elections wherein Republicans won back both houses of Congress, and wiped out nearly an entire class of Democratic governors, until that point rising stars in their party. Even Democratic California delivered a surprise in the form of Abel Maldonado's defeat of Barbara Boxer in the Senate race. Trump's lame duck last two years as president left him a pawn to newly ascendant Republicans looking to address the recession with spending reductions and measures punishing illegal immigration, both of which the president supported, to the chagrin of his party and permanent ire of his vice president.
Tom Harkin's bruising primary battle with Bernie Sanders leaves all involved embittered, and leads to the latter running as an independent, seeing this moment as the one for democratic socialism in America. Sadly, it was not to be. For either of them....
The 2012 United States Presidential Election
Governor Mitch Daniels of Indiana/Senator Abel Maldonado of California (Republican) 483 Electoral Votes
Vice President Tom Harkin of Iowa/Senator Hillary Clinton of New York (Democratic) 48 Electoral Votes
Senator Bernie Sanders/Representative Neil Abercrombie (Independent) 7 Electoral Votes
Like, for example, in Barnstable County MA, it would be 54% Clinton, 50% Trump haha
Rhad
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A map where Clinton got more electoral votes than Obama. http://kevinhayeswilson.com/redraw/...XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY. Camden is supposed to be in PA.
@Ares96 How does one go about doing those different shades for party strength? (In LoD)
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United States Presidential Election, 1796
Secretary of State Thomas Jefferson (Republican-Virginia)/Former Governor George Clinton (Republican-New York) 112 EVs; 67.4% PV
Governor James Iredell (Federalist-North Carolina)/US Minister to France Charles C. Pinckney (Federalist-South Carolina) 26 EVs; 32.6% PV
Secretary of State Thomas Jefferson (Republican-Virginia)/Former Governor George Clinton (Republican-New York) 112 EVs; 67.4% PV
Governor James Iredell (Federalist-North Carolina)/US Minister to France Charles C. Pinckney (Federalist-South Carolina) 26 EVs; 32.6% PV
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Here is the seventh installment in my alternate American election series.
Rhode Island is the smallest state in the whole Union, however one of the most important politically. Many pundits have called Rhode Island the "Alabama of New England," in the sense that similar to how Alabama is unlike the rest of the Deep South with actually competitive elections, so too is Rhode Island unlike the rest of Republican New England. This is mainly due to the heavily Labor city of Providence, as its surrounding metro which has a large population of poor minorities.
However unlike in Alabama where both sides have held government around the same number of times, in Rhode Island the Republicans have held control 2 out of 3 times, not as extreme as deep blue New Hampshire or Connecticut, but still heavily leaning Republican. The cause for this lean is the existence of FPTP districts in the senate, a heavily gerrymandered legislative bodies which has managed to survive despite the Conservative Revolution's democratizing reforms. These FPTP districts are also ingrained into the Constitution of Rhode Island, which requires a two-thirds majority in both chambers to be changed, so even in 1992 when the Labor party held slim majorities in both the House and Senate an amendment remained out of the question.
The final straw was broken in 2012 when even though the Labor party won the popular vote 51% to the Republicans 44% they still failed to gained a majority in the Senate. With the Senate of Rhode Island being elected only every four years, as is the case in most Northeastern states, the incoming four years of deadlock despite holding an absolute majority of votes left the people up in arms. Mass protests outside the Republican's office were held for the next six straight weeks demanding a reform of the senate to a more proportional system. As a result of these protests, a single issue party was formed called the Moderate Moose Party, aiming to unite centrist voters from both Labor and the Republican parties in order to change the senate to Mixed Member Proportional, a system already found in the Progressive state of Vermont.
In the election of 2014 the Moderate Moose Party managed to gain an impressive 12 seats, mostly from the greater Warwick area which was forming a swing area between Labor and the Republicans. Even though a Labor-MMP coalition held a large majority in the House the Republican senate turned to obstructionism to prevent them from passing any bills, hoping to discredit the MMP's legitimacy as a governing party.
This move backfired spectacularly in 2016, featuring the most immediate rise of a third party in Rhode Island's history. From a mere 12 seats the Moderate Moose Party managed to secure 30 seats in the House and 14 seats. Dozens of politicians across Southern and Eastern Rhode Island who had held their positions for decades had their political careers destroyed in an instant. For the first time since the founding of the Republican party over 150 years ago the Grand Old Party was reduced to less than a third of both House and Senate seats.
With the Moderate Moose Party having gone from nonexistent to the largest party in both chambers of the legislature in less than four years, and through their coalition with Labor held a super majority in the Rhode Island state legislature. Thus the so called "Moose Amendment" was quickly passed, letting Rhode Island become the second state in the Union to create a mixed-member proportional senate.
Government:
Moderate Moose Party - Formed in 2013 by centrists who were fed up with the archaic ways of the Grand Old Party their meteoric rise to power has made them the most successful third party created in the 21st century. While their number one position is the changing of the senate to a MMP system, the rest of platform includes "common sense" policies such as the decriminalization of marijuana, pension reform for government employees, the lowering of the corporate tax, and an increase of the capital gains tax.
Labor - One of the big two of Rhode Island, they have been pushed down to third place as most of their white catholic have moved to the MMP. At first most of the Labor hardliners were skeptical of the Moderate Moose Party's intentions, seeing their advocacy of pension reform and push for decriminalization of marijuana as signs that they want to become a branch of the Progressives. Nevertheless they remain grateful of their reform to the senate, with a Mixed Member Proportional system ensuring that the Republicans' gerrymanders are unable to inhibit the will of the masses.
Opposition:
Republicans - As in most of New England, the Republicans of Rhode Island leans to the left socially and to the right economically, supporting gun control and the right to free abortions while keeping taxes low and welfare at a minimum. Their embarrassing loss in both the House and Senate to super majority coalitions have left the Rhode Island Republican party into panic mode, with their leader John Fung resigning and the federal Republican party launching a major autopsy of the election to prevent the Ocean State from becoming another Vermont.
Greens - While not nearly as strong as they are in other states such as Maine or Massachusetts the Green Party of Rhode Island has still managed to carve out a solid base among college students and ecologically minded liberals, though the rapid expansion of the Moderate Moose Party has lost them a few seats.
Credit for the basemap goes to Wikipedia.
Rhode Island is the smallest state in the whole Union, however one of the most important politically. Many pundits have called Rhode Island the "Alabama of New England," in the sense that similar to how Alabama is unlike the rest of the Deep South with actually competitive elections, so too is Rhode Island unlike the rest of Republican New England. This is mainly due to the heavily Labor city of Providence, as its surrounding metro which has a large population of poor minorities.
However unlike in Alabama where both sides have held government around the same number of times, in Rhode Island the Republicans have held control 2 out of 3 times, not as extreme as deep blue New Hampshire or Connecticut, but still heavily leaning Republican. The cause for this lean is the existence of FPTP districts in the senate, a heavily gerrymandered legislative bodies which has managed to survive despite the Conservative Revolution's democratizing reforms. These FPTP districts are also ingrained into the Constitution of Rhode Island, which requires a two-thirds majority in both chambers to be changed, so even in 1992 when the Labor party held slim majorities in both the House and Senate an amendment remained out of the question.
The final straw was broken in 2012 when even though the Labor party won the popular vote 51% to the Republicans 44% they still failed to gained a majority in the Senate. With the Senate of Rhode Island being elected only every four years, as is the case in most Northeastern states, the incoming four years of deadlock despite holding an absolute majority of votes left the people up in arms. Mass protests outside the Republican's office were held for the next six straight weeks demanding a reform of the senate to a more proportional system. As a result of these protests, a single issue party was formed called the Moderate Moose Party, aiming to unite centrist voters from both Labor and the Republican parties in order to change the senate to Mixed Member Proportional, a system already found in the Progressive state of Vermont.
In the election of 2014 the Moderate Moose Party managed to gain an impressive 12 seats, mostly from the greater Warwick area which was forming a swing area between Labor and the Republicans. Even though a Labor-MMP coalition held a large majority in the House the Republican senate turned to obstructionism to prevent them from passing any bills, hoping to discredit the MMP's legitimacy as a governing party.
This move backfired spectacularly in 2016, featuring the most immediate rise of a third party in Rhode Island's history. From a mere 12 seats the Moderate Moose Party managed to secure 30 seats in the House and 14 seats. Dozens of politicians across Southern and Eastern Rhode Island who had held their positions for decades had their political careers destroyed in an instant. For the first time since the founding of the Republican party over 150 years ago the Grand Old Party was reduced to less than a third of both House and Senate seats.
With the Moderate Moose Party having gone from nonexistent to the largest party in both chambers of the legislature in less than four years, and through their coalition with Labor held a super majority in the Rhode Island state legislature. Thus the so called "Moose Amendment" was quickly passed, letting Rhode Island become the second state in the Union to create a mixed-member proportional senate.
Government:
Moderate Moose Party - Formed in 2013 by centrists who were fed up with the archaic ways of the Grand Old Party their meteoric rise to power has made them the most successful third party created in the 21st century. While their number one position is the changing of the senate to a MMP system, the rest of platform includes "common sense" policies such as the decriminalization of marijuana, pension reform for government employees, the lowering of the corporate tax, and an increase of the capital gains tax.
Labor - One of the big two of Rhode Island, they have been pushed down to third place as most of their white catholic have moved to the MMP. At first most of the Labor hardliners were skeptical of the Moderate Moose Party's intentions, seeing their advocacy of pension reform and push for decriminalization of marijuana as signs that they want to become a branch of the Progressives. Nevertheless they remain grateful of their reform to the senate, with a Mixed Member Proportional system ensuring that the Republicans' gerrymanders are unable to inhibit the will of the masses.
Opposition:
Republicans - As in most of New England, the Republicans of Rhode Island leans to the left socially and to the right economically, supporting gun control and the right to free abortions while keeping taxes low and welfare at a minimum. Their embarrassing loss in both the House and Senate to super majority coalitions have left the Rhode Island Republican party into panic mode, with their leader John Fung resigning and the federal Republican party launching a major autopsy of the election to prevent the Ocean State from becoming another Vermont.
Greens - While not nearly as strong as they are in other states such as Maine or Massachusetts the Green Party of Rhode Island has still managed to carve out a solid base among college students and ecologically minded liberals, though the rapid expansion of the Moderate Moose Party has lost them a few seats.
Credit for the basemap goes to Wikipedia.
2016: What the real election should've been
Gov. John R. Kasich (R-OH)/Sen. Randal H. Paul (R-KY) 280 (49.7%)
VP Joseph R. Biden Jr (D-DE)/Sen. Elizabeth A. Warren (D-MA) 255 (49.5%)
2020: GOP easily does it
Pres. John R. Kasich (R-OH)/VP Randal H. Paul (R-KY) 355 (52.4%)
Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo (D-NY)/Sen. Cory A. Booker (D-NJ) 183 (47.6%)
Gov. John R. Kasich (R-OH)/Sen. Randal H. Paul (R-KY) 280 (49.7%)
VP Joseph R. Biden Jr (D-DE)/Sen. Elizabeth A. Warren (D-MA) 255 (49.5%)
2020: GOP easily does it
Pres. John R. Kasich (R-OH)/VP Randal H. Paul (R-KY) 355 (52.4%)
Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo (D-NY)/Sen. Cory A. Booker (D-NJ) 183 (47.6%)
Hillary Clinton (D-NY) / Tim Kaine (D-VA) 61.16%
Michael Dukakis (D-MA) / Lloyd Bentsen (D-TX) 38.84%
And no, this isn't based on percent, this is from actual number of votes - there are actually 6 states where more people voted for Michael Dukakis 28 years ago than voted for Hillary Clinton in this election.
EDIT: And if you want a comparative of %s
Clinton got a lower % of the vote than Dukakis in exactly half of the states in the U.S.
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(Personally I think Dukakis is swell, but yeah)
I know I've mentioned this in the Politbrit thread - Hillary Clinton got less votes in West Virginia this year than any other major party candidate since women's suffrage was introduced in 1920.
Gov. Jerry Brown (D-CA)/Sen. Joe Biden (D-DE) - 334 EV, 52.69%
VP George H. W. Bush (R-TX)/Dan Quayle (R-IN) - 204 EV, 46.06%
Rep. Ron Paul (L-TX)/State Rep. Andre Marrou (L-AK) - 0 EV, 0.64%
I tried my best at approximating this map in the redraw tool all the cool kids seem to be using lately. I say 'approximate' because it looks like Neil Freeman's original map spliced through a few current county borders. Compare the state of Los Angeles and the area around El Paso for examples. Also may have effed up the partitioning of Virginia's subdivisions, because Firefox only zooms in to 300%. Otherwise, full election results can be found here.
Key for the results:
AK-Mendocino
AL-King
AR-Ozarks
AZ-Phoenix
CA-Los Angeles
CO-Houston
CT-Willimantic
DE-Blue Ridge
FL-Tampa Bay
GA-Atlanta
HI-Tule
IA-Sangamon
ID-Salt Lake
IL-Gary
IN-Maumee
KS-Trinity
KY-Mammoth
LA-Atchafalaya
MA-Casco
MD-Sesquehanna
ME-Throgs Neck
MI-Detroit
MN-Mesabi
MO-Firelands
MS-Miami
MT-Yerba Buena
NC-Tidewater
ND-Ogallala
NE-Nodaway
NH-Pocono
NJ-Newark
NM-Chinati
NV-Shiprock
NY-New York
OH-Scioto
OK-Muskogee
OR-Shasta
PA-Philadelphia
RI-Washington
SC-Columbia
SD-Temecula
TN-Canaveral
TX-Big Thicket
UT-Orange
VA-Shenandoah
VT-Adirondack
WA-Rainier
WI-Menominee
WV-Allegheny
WY-Chicago
19921988
Gov. Jerry Brown (D-CA)/Sen. Joe Biden (D-DE) - 334 EV, 52.69%
VP George H. W. Bush (R-TX)/Sen. Dan Quayle (R-IN) - 204 EV, 46.06%
Rep. Ron Paul (L-TX)/State Rep. Andre Marrou (L-AK) - 0 EV, 0.64%
Pres. Jerry Brown (D-CA)/VP. Joe Biden (D-DE) - 301 EV, 50.65%
Businessman H. Ross Perot (R-TX)/Businessman Steve Forbes (R-NY) - 237 EV, 48.2%
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