Alternate Electoral Maps II

Discussion in 'Alternate History Maps and Graphics' started by Aaaaasima, May 22, 2017.

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  1. Rhad Banned

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    A rural populist ticket vs. an East Coast libertarian one.
     
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  2. Osk Eu set di la Oskaña

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    The map still makes no sense! Party loyalty is a thing! Just because the Dems nominate a rural candidate and the GOP one from the city doesn't mean literally both party's bases fully flip.
     
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    1972 tied.png 1976 tied.png . These are 1972 and 1976 if they were tied. Mcgovern would have won 17 states. Carter would have won 6 of them. Meanwhile, he carried four of the five most republican states, and nearly won Oklahoma. Party loyalty isn't neccesarily the be-all and end-all of elections.
     
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  4. Osk Eu set di la Oskaña

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    Come on, you can't compare the radical political shifts in bases happening in the 70s to right now when bases have been entrenched and more politicized.
     
  5. Rhad Banned

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    The bases are the same because the parties have been nominated similiar candidates with similar politics and similiar messages. If that changes, so will the bases.
     
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    Actually, it's just removing 5% from the victor of a state. You don't add 5% to the loser as well. So this would be 2016:
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  7. Osk Eu set di la Oskaña

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    I'm saying that they're not the same. You've flipped them. Even if a rural candidate gets nominated by the DEMs that doesn't mean all of a sudden the plains and South go DEM. It just wouldn't work that way.
     
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  8. Rhad Banned

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    Half the plains are still going republican.
     
  9. Osk Eu set di la Oskaña

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    Okay

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  10. GBehm Fool me twice, fool me chicken soup with rice.

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    So you just delete 5% entirely?
     
  11. DPKdebator Hmm...

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    Anyone else think it might be a good idea to standardize the political party colors for the site? This would create less confusing situations like this and can prevent a possible civil war over colors of choice.
     
  12. killertahu22 I Hate Ronald Reagan

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    Blue = Dems
    Red = Reps

    Thats how America does it anyways

    Should we make a poll?
     
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    GOLD AND SILVER
    GOLD AND SILVER
    GOLD AND SILVER
    GOLD AND SILVER

    No, seriously, yeah, normal America colours (blue Dems) are the best idea IMO. The party logos are in those colours anyways.
     
  14. killertahu22 I Hate Ronald Reagan

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    alternatively, ive seen Orange and Light Blue and it was really appealing surprisingly
     
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  15. shiftygiant Auf Wiedersehen Gone Fishin'

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    No, you really don't need to standardise the colour scheme, you just need people to be clearer on what their maps are representing. Given how this is the alternate electoral map thread, trying to set and enforce a standardised scheme is overkill for what is really a big non-issue over how atlas colours, and is overlooking the real issue for one that is barely even worth mentioning.

    If people really have an issue, then the complaints should be that the people making the maps aren't actually bothering to put the effort into giving some kind of further information to their maps, because a lot of what has been posted has just decided to forgo even listing the candidates and EC's out of what I can only assume is laziness. On page 2, @Pericles avoided any potential confusion by actually bothering to indicate who was who, something very few posting after them have even bothered attempting.
     
  16. Turquoise Blue Blossoming Tibby!

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    In my "The Power of Two" third-parties-take-over-main-parties thing, the official colour of the Democrats is red, and Republicans blue.

    A standardised colour scheme is not a good idea. People should just indicate what the colours mean.
     
  17. Threadmarks: Gog-Clocthoth-Can't Keep Cool in 1928

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    Can't Keep Cool in 1928, Wedith a Twilsont
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    Governor Alfred E. Smith (D-NY) / Fmr. First Lady Edith Wilson (D-DC): 274 EV
    President Calvin Coolidge(R-MA) / Judge William S. Kenyon (R-IA): 257 EV

    266 to win

    Pulled from an old Boston Globe article; here's an extended prediction from Hugh Campbell Wallace Ambassador to France in the final years of the Wilson administration. Dated Oct. 27, 1927.

    Supposedly the addition of Edith Wilson would "keep the South solid and insure the Democrats several western states (which Wallace goes on to list and I've highlighted)". Al Smith would "contribute his part in the victory by carrying the East". I tacked Smith's home state of New York on in light of this, since it gives the ticket a narrow win and Amb. Wallace couldn't know how Smith would perform.

    If someone has a good source on women voters by state and party at the time; another possible map could be based on Wallace's assertion that "The Democratic party gave women suffrage to the country and [the only female Govs. and Sens. have been Democrats]... women resent being ignored by the Republicans and I am sure at least 10 percent of Republican women voters would be glad [to elect a female VP]...especially one as well versed in statecraft as Mrs. Wilson."
     
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    Closer 2008 US election
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    Barack Obama/Joe Biden-Democratic: 291 EV 49.86%
    John McCain/Sarah Palin-Republican: 247 EV 48.60%
     
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    Bigger Obama victory
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    Barack Obama/Joe Biden-Democratic: 394 EV 55.86%
    John McCain/Sarah Palin-Republican: 144 EV 42.60%
     
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    Pericles Well-Known Member

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    Bigger Obama victory 2012
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    President Barack Obama/Joe Biden-Democratic: 364 EV 55.01%
    Mitt Romney/Paul Ryan-Republican: 174 EV 43.15%
     
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