The Sons of Inti Shall Not Perish
- Thread starter King of the Uzbeks
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I prefer to celebrate "Unknown tribe who first arrived to the Americas around 14.000 years ago through, probably, the Bering Strech" Day. For the real ones who discovered America!
Interlude 1.2: A Columbus Day Special
Interlude 2: A Columbus Day Special
Pedro de Alvarado nodded at the metalworkers working under the close supervision of his men. Already three Indians had attempted to run off with some Silver, necessitating some harsh measures around Quito to ensure no treason was tolerated. The Gold was of course only to be handled by Spanish hands, the Indians were oddly protective of their pagan idols and was not going to risk losing any to them. There was a great amount of treasure to be had in San Felipe, the city the natives called Qito, and the crown would have its fifth when they asked for it. Until then, well Mexico had enough Silver that his funds weren't needed yet. The riches he had seen here were only part of a vast empire, an empire he would soon conquer, not the damn fool Andagoya and certainly not Pizarro or Almagro, who had been so idiotic and foolhearty as to be captured. Captured by these barbarians, who had knelt before him so easily. The gold of San Felipe was his, and the cross now towered above this Suyu Empire of Peru.
He musings were interrupted by an Indian, baptized (but one never could be entirely sure with pagans), and now named Francisco. He was some sort of chieftain with the rebels who had joined with the Spanish.
"Sir?" He asked via a translator.
"What?" Snapped Alvarado.
"Should we be focused on our defenses of the city? The Army of the Inka has been wrecked by this illness that sweeps the city, and you are miraculously unharmed. If we wish to be ready when the attack comes there would be no better time."
"There will be time. They will scatter at the sound of gunfire."
"They will. But the army the Inka will not."
"Their victories over Spaniards were by treachery. They cannot defeat us in open battle. They are distracted by Andagoya. I have fallen under siege by an Empire far greater than this one, and I stood against it."
"The men, they wonder why you do not smash the army now. The siege is weak."
"The army is unimportant, we are getting enough food through them. We must focus on organizing the city properly. This is the seat of a new power in Peru it should look like it. The walls can withstand a few arrows. The cannon will scatter the men."
"You are aware the reenforcements have guns, sir?" Francisco asked.
"They posses them but they do have them. They do not understand the power they posses. They have not fought with anyone who knows how to use them. We will prevail."
-----
Rumiñavi stared in shock at Alvarado. He had known the Spanish to be haughty and assured in their power, but this? Did the really think the Empire was that foolish?
"The Sapa Inka is indeed with the Army. But he will not enter Quito to speak with you." Rumiñavi said evenly.
"I am a representative of the King of Spain! I demand to speak with the Emperor." This new man said.
"The Emperor will speak with you, a great honor I might add, to negotiate your withdrawal. But he will not enter Quito."
"If he wishes to honor us then he should meet with us on our terms."
"If you with to honor us, then your king should meet the Sapa Inka himself."
"Your Emperor does not meet with us, he sends us a mere General, not even his own blood. I do not think here cares for honor."
Internally Rumiñavi fumed at the sheer insolence of this Spaniard, he was outnumbered by a large margin and he responded with insults?
"The Sapa Inka will meet with you outside the city. With only a few bodyguards and advisors for each of you."
"No. He must enter the city."
"Then there shall be no negotiation." Rumiñavi replied.
---
"The gall! The gall! The sheer barbarism to parade our captured comrades before us like cattle! These pagans will pay! The sea will run red, fed by the rivers of blood we will send down the mountains! Their capital will make Carthage look like Madrid!" Alvarado raged at the reports of men in armor approaching the city surrounded by hundreds of men with slings. He armor hurriedly put on, he rushed to see the spectacle himself.
Through the city of Quito he raced ordering his men to abandon their works and pleasures to ready for battle. He'd dragged half a dozen men half naked away from women and his search for more gold in the temple would have to wait for this righteous victory to be one. It would rival his victories of Mexico, no surpass it. It would be his name they would surpass Cortes, not Andagoya or Belalcázar.
The cannon was readied looking over the approach to the city, ready to tear apart the Indians. Muskets and crossbows were readied and the horses prepared for battle. Victory would be achieved under the cross and a march south could begin.
Alvarado saw the Army and saw the glint of the armor. He scowled deeply. But then he noticed the odd and somewhat confused way the man rode. He saw the gestures the man made and how the Indian soldiers obeyed him. He saw no weapons pointed at the man.
It was an Indian. On a horse. In armor.
When Francisco arrived Alvarado seized him.
"Why was I not told that they wear our armor?" He yelled.
"Why would they not? It protects them well." Francisco replied.
-----
War is hell.
The Tawantinsuyu died in droves as they stormed towards Quito, an all around easily defensible city. For all they had learned of the weapons that passed for modern in Europe they were not masters of this new war. The Spanish knew their craft well. Blood soaked the field. But numbers can always win out, if you are willing to sacrifice enough. The Tawantinsuyu canon was brought fourth and fired, startling the Spanish and their allied rebels. The Sapa Inka's men advanced showering the enemy with crossbow bolts, with an expertise Alvarado did not expect.
Alvarado had to have known the Tawantinsuyu could only have limited powder, especially with Andagoya still barely contained near Tumbez. But he still inexplicably led a calvary charge to take them out, cutting a brutal swath towards the captured guns. Sling after sling failed to fell the Spanish charge.
Alvarado reached the Cannon unknowingly close to Rumiñavi's and Atahualpa's command. There he inflicted a severe blow to the Empire. Crossbow and musket fire prevented him from seizing back the guns, but he killed almost all of those manning them. The only ones in the empire trained in any meaningful capacity in firing the foreign weapons. Though he was forced to fall back from his charge, and suffered severe losses in his rash act, he thought the battle was won.
But in the end the Sapa Inka's Army was Quitian, of northern persuasion through and through. They had followed Atahualpa to Cusco and the hostile locals there. They had fought the Spanish in the passes and at Tumbez. They had followed Rumiñavi to the far south and won a victory never won by soldiers of the Empire. Now an enemy had burned his way through their homeland and stolen the city that had ruled them with the help of traitors who opposed the man they had followed so far.
They would not abandon the field. Not here. Not now.
The army pushed forwards, crossbows, slings, clubs and muskets unharmed. Bloodied but not defeated. Alvarado's charge of the cannons proved a Pyrrhic victory, his calvary was spent as the push began against him and his native allies, faced with the idea of punishment for treason, began to crack. The limited Tawantinsuyu calvary entered the mix, though cautiously and more for show then anything else. The army still fell in droves but they pushed bloodily foreword. The Spanish were not used to losing and though they fought violently and well they were crushed against the walls, their horses struck by arrows more often then not.
By the days end the fighting had ended. At great cost Quito once again belonged to the Tawantinsuyu.
-----
Alvarado faced a choice. Try to flee south to beg mercy from Andagoya or run north and await his ship's return, expecting gold. Neither were acceptable options, but both were better then being captured by the barbarians. He glanced over the half burning city as his men tried to stop the heathen advance. They would fail.
He would fail.
He stuffed gold into his bags, perhaps he could bribe his way to freedom. He suspected there was an order to keep him alive maybe he could slip away then. But he did not want the dishonor of being captured. He added some silver for good measure.
He heard footsteps behind him. He turned and reached for his sword. Only for him to hear the clattering of steel and feel a painful throbbing in his hand.
He faced his attacker. A common looking man, probably uncivilized even by Indian standards. Only wielding a club.
"Good luck taking me alive, barbarian." Alvarado sneered.
The man did not understand him, obviously. But Alvarado suddenly doubted wether the man would have cared even if he had.
In the end Pedro de Alvarado fell not to steel, but to bronze.
Pedro de Alvarado nodded at the metalworkers working under the close supervision of his men. Already three Indians had attempted to run off with some Silver, necessitating some harsh measures around Quito to ensure no treason was tolerated. The Gold was of course only to be handled by Spanish hands, the Indians were oddly protective of their pagan idols and was not going to risk losing any to them. There was a great amount of treasure to be had in San Felipe, the city the natives called Qito, and the crown would have its fifth when they asked for it. Until then, well Mexico had enough Silver that his funds weren't needed yet. The riches he had seen here were only part of a vast empire, an empire he would soon conquer, not the damn fool Andagoya and certainly not Pizarro or Almagro, who had been so idiotic and foolhearty as to be captured. Captured by these barbarians, who had knelt before him so easily. The gold of San Felipe was his, and the cross now towered above this Suyu Empire of Peru.
He musings were interrupted by an Indian, baptized (but one never could be entirely sure with pagans), and now named Francisco. He was some sort of chieftain with the rebels who had joined with the Spanish.
"Sir?" He asked via a translator.
"What?" Snapped Alvarado.
"Should we be focused on our defenses of the city? The Army of the Inka has been wrecked by this illness that sweeps the city, and you are miraculously unharmed. If we wish to be ready when the attack comes there would be no better time."
"There will be time. They will scatter at the sound of gunfire."
"They will. But the army the Inka will not."
"Their victories over Spaniards were by treachery. They cannot defeat us in open battle. They are distracted by Andagoya. I have fallen under siege by an Empire far greater than this one, and I stood against it."
"The men, they wonder why you do not smash the army now. The siege is weak."
"The army is unimportant, we are getting enough food through them. We must focus on organizing the city properly. This is the seat of a new power in Peru it should look like it. The walls can withstand a few arrows. The cannon will scatter the men."
"You are aware the reenforcements have guns, sir?" Francisco asked.
"They posses them but they do have them. They do not understand the power they posses. They have not fought with anyone who knows how to use them. We will prevail."
-----
Rumiñavi stared in shock at Alvarado. He had known the Spanish to be haughty and assured in their power, but this? Did the really think the Empire was that foolish?
"The Sapa Inka is indeed with the Army. But he will not enter Quito to speak with you." Rumiñavi said evenly.
"I am a representative of the King of Spain! I demand to speak with the Emperor." This new man said.
"The Emperor will speak with you, a great honor I might add, to negotiate your withdrawal. But he will not enter Quito."
"If he wishes to honor us then he should meet with us on our terms."
"If you with to honor us, then your king should meet the Sapa Inka himself."
"Your Emperor does not meet with us, he sends us a mere General, not even his own blood. I do not think here cares for honor."
Internally Rumiñavi fumed at the sheer insolence of this Spaniard, he was outnumbered by a large margin and he responded with insults?
"The Sapa Inka will meet with you outside the city. With only a few bodyguards and advisors for each of you."
"No. He must enter the city."
"Then there shall be no negotiation." Rumiñavi replied.
---
"The gall! The gall! The sheer barbarism to parade our captured comrades before us like cattle! These pagans will pay! The sea will run red, fed by the rivers of blood we will send down the mountains! Their capital will make Carthage look like Madrid!" Alvarado raged at the reports of men in armor approaching the city surrounded by hundreds of men with slings. He armor hurriedly put on, he rushed to see the spectacle himself.
Through the city of Quito he raced ordering his men to abandon their works and pleasures to ready for battle. He'd dragged half a dozen men half naked away from women and his search for more gold in the temple would have to wait for this righteous victory to be one. It would rival his victories of Mexico, no surpass it. It would be his name they would surpass Cortes, not Andagoya or Belalcázar.
The cannon was readied looking over the approach to the city, ready to tear apart the Indians. Muskets and crossbows were readied and the horses prepared for battle. Victory would be achieved under the cross and a march south could begin.
Alvarado saw the Army and saw the glint of the armor. He scowled deeply. But then he noticed the odd and somewhat confused way the man rode. He saw the gestures the man made and how the Indian soldiers obeyed him. He saw no weapons pointed at the man.
It was an Indian. On a horse. In armor.
When Francisco arrived Alvarado seized him.
"Why was I not told that they wear our armor?" He yelled.
"Why would they not? It protects them well." Francisco replied.
-----
War is hell.
The Tawantinsuyu died in droves as they stormed towards Quito, an all around easily defensible city. For all they had learned of the weapons that passed for modern in Europe they were not masters of this new war. The Spanish knew their craft well. Blood soaked the field. But numbers can always win out, if you are willing to sacrifice enough. The Tawantinsuyu canon was brought fourth and fired, startling the Spanish and their allied rebels. The Sapa Inka's men advanced showering the enemy with crossbow bolts, with an expertise Alvarado did not expect.
Alvarado had to have known the Tawantinsuyu could only have limited powder, especially with Andagoya still barely contained near Tumbez. But he still inexplicably led a calvary charge to take them out, cutting a brutal swath towards the captured guns. Sling after sling failed to fell the Spanish charge.
Alvarado reached the Cannon unknowingly close to Rumiñavi's and Atahualpa's command. There he inflicted a severe blow to the Empire. Crossbow and musket fire prevented him from seizing back the guns, but he killed almost all of those manning them. The only ones in the empire trained in any meaningful capacity in firing the foreign weapons. Though he was forced to fall back from his charge, and suffered severe losses in his rash act, he thought the battle was won.
But in the end the Sapa Inka's Army was Quitian, of northern persuasion through and through. They had followed Atahualpa to Cusco and the hostile locals there. They had fought the Spanish in the passes and at Tumbez. They had followed Rumiñavi to the far south and won a victory never won by soldiers of the Empire. Now an enemy had burned his way through their homeland and stolen the city that had ruled them with the help of traitors who opposed the man they had followed so far.
They would not abandon the field. Not here. Not now.
The army pushed forwards, crossbows, slings, clubs and muskets unharmed. Bloodied but not defeated. Alvarado's charge of the cannons proved a Pyrrhic victory, his calvary was spent as the push began against him and his native allies, faced with the idea of punishment for treason, began to crack. The limited Tawantinsuyu calvary entered the mix, though cautiously and more for show then anything else. The army still fell in droves but they pushed bloodily foreword. The Spanish were not used to losing and though they fought violently and well they were crushed against the walls, their horses struck by arrows more often then not.
By the days end the fighting had ended. At great cost Quito once again belonged to the Tawantinsuyu.
-----
Alvarado faced a choice. Try to flee south to beg mercy from Andagoya or run north and await his ship's return, expecting gold. Neither were acceptable options, but both were better then being captured by the barbarians. He glanced over the half burning city as his men tried to stop the heathen advance. They would fail.
He would fail.
He stuffed gold into his bags, perhaps he could bribe his way to freedom. He suspected there was an order to keep him alive maybe he could slip away then. But he did not want the dishonor of being captured. He added some silver for good measure.
He heard footsteps behind him. He turned and reached for his sword. Only for him to hear the clattering of steel and feel a painful throbbing in his hand.
He faced his attacker. A common looking man, probably uncivilized even by Indian standards. Only wielding a club.
"Good luck taking me alive, barbarian." Alvarado sneered.
The man did not understand him, obviously. But Alvarado suddenly doubted wether the man would have cared even if he had.
In the end Pedro de Alvarado fell not to steel, but to bronze.
There was no easy way to win this; I'm glad the sacrifice was not in vain.
Spanish and even European attitude will begin to change; viewing America's natives more as similar to the Asian civilizations they encountered, instead of similar to the hunter-gatherers of the North like Sami, Komi etc. they're also familiar with.
Spanish and even European attitude will begin to change; viewing America's natives more as similar to the Asian civilizations they encountered, instead of similar to the hunter-gatherers of the North like Sami, Komi etc. they're also familiar with.
They will still encounter North America ones and others, I think their attitude would depend more on the region than entire continent.
Yikes, sounds like a brutal battle... Could you give an estimate of the exact casualties, on each side?
As is traditional I now respond to your comments in a post longer than the update.
Yep. The interlude takes place midway through the next update, which will cover the multiple invasions problem.
They have been bloodied at Quito. But they are victorious. The trick now is to defeat a larger, better trained, better led group.
...with influenza sweeping south.
Wave after Wave of my own men.
Mendoza will not be featured, but his exploits will be mentioned and examined. As for other powers its a matter of time effort and whether they can really help.
Portugal will be Portugal.
Neo-Mapuche will certainly be a player for everyone's second favorite South American river. (Sorry Argentina/Uruguay).
I do have plans for the reformation.
The wars are a very nice distractionion aren't they?
.
Perhaps but with the wars in Europe they won't be doing it too soon.
And the money being poured into protecting that faith.
Working title for next update: Nobody expects the Tawantinsuyu resistance.
Only if the Inca show up.
That's great! Hoped you liked it.
Maybe.
Perhaps you could say they don't hang themselves on a cross of gold.
Time to put myself on another watch list by googling where to grow drugs.
Actually its still the Ming.
Investment investment investment.
Mercantilism certainly threatens our plucky giant empire.
Yep.
yep.
Yes but then you don't get the same sense of satisfaction from watching Spaniards crash and burn.
So do I. But I live in a city called Colunbus so……
Damn straight.
Yep. The interlude takes place midway through the next update, which will cover the multiple invasions problem.
They have been bloodied at Quito. But they are victorious. The trick now is to defeat a larger, better trained, better led group.
...with influenza sweeping south.
Wave after Wave of my own men.
Mendoza will not be featured, but his exploits will be mentioned and examined. As for other powers its a matter of time effort and whether they can really help.
Portugal will be Portugal.
Neo-Mapuche will certainly be a player for everyone's second favorite South American river. (Sorry Argentina/Uruguay).
I do have plans for the reformation.
The wars are a very nice distractionion aren't they?
.Perhaps but with the wars in Europe they won't be doing it too soon.
And the money being poured into protecting that faith.
Working title for next update: Nobody expects the Tawantinsuyu resistance.
Only if the Inca show up.
That's great! Hoped you liked it.
Maybe.
Perhaps you could say they don't hang themselves on a cross of gold.
Time to put myself on another watch list by googling where to grow drugs.
Actually its still the Ming.
Investment investment investment.
Mercantilism certainly threatens our plucky giant empire.
Yep.
yep.
Yes but then you don't get the same sense of satisfaction from watching Spaniards crash and burn.
So do I. But I live in a city called Colunbus so……
Damn straight.
Victory at Quito indeed.
Yes, the Spanish will soon realize, if they haven't already, they are facing a solid state.
"Americas" was always a uselessly broad term.
The turn south begins...NOW!
High Hundreds to low thousands for the Inca and co. Hard to tell for the Spanish because of the blurring of the battle and oddly dying in captivity.
Thanks a bunch.
DEUS VEUT this TL.
DEUS does not VEUT the Spanish ITTL.
I don't speak Latin, but at a guess I'd say it's conjugated differently.
I wonder... will the Incas eventually convert to a western religion through missionaries and western influence? Or will they retain their native religion no matter what, kinda like Japan did? In that case, I guess the Inca will still be considered to a deity.
I believed they still practice Shinto? I know there are some Japonese Christians, but I thought the great majority of Japanese where either non-practicant but nominally Shinto.
Yeah the vast majority are still practitioners of folk religions or buddhism, Japan is only about 3% Christian. He may be thinking about South Korea, which has a Christian plurality.