List of Alternate Presidents and PMs II

[Utgard96]

>Orange
>Red

It actually took me a moment to notice Wilson because it all blurred together.

Exactly.

 

[Cevolian]

@Asami thank you for the threadmarking that's actually incredibly useful!!

 

[Asami]

@Asami thank you for the threadmarking that's actually incredibly useful!!

It'll be easier to keep it updated, since I frequent this thread. ^^

If I made an error on the titling of yours (or others) threadmarks, I think you'll have to fix it, because I can't (since they're not my posts)

 

[Osk]

Forgotten No More: An Ode to John

1789-1793: Artemis Ward (Ind./Fed.-MA)/Richard Henry Lee (Ind.-VA)
def. 1788: an assortment of candidates
1793-1794: William Few (Fed.-GA)/Richard Henry Lee (Ind.-VA)
def. 1797: an assortment of candidates
1794-1797: William Few (Fed.-GA)/vacant
1797-1801: Henry Lee III (Fed.-VA)/John Langdon (Fed.-NH)
def. 1796: Spencer Roane (Rep.-VA)/George Clinton (Rep.-NY)
1801-1805: George Clinton (Rep.-NY)/Spencer Roane (Rep.-VA)
def. 1800 Henry Lee III (Fed.-VA)/Theodore Sedgwick (Fed.-MA)
1805-1809: Charles Lee (Fed.-VA)/Theodore Sedgwick (Fed.-MA)
def. 1804: Charles Pinckney (Rep.-SC)/Nicholas Gilman, Jr. (Rep.-NH)
1809-1813: Henry Lee III (Fed.-VA)/James Hillhouse (Fed.-CT)
def. 1808: James Garrard (Rep.-KY)/Thomas Sumter (Rep.-SC)
1813-1817: William Eustis (Rep.-MA)/Rufus King (Pea.Fed.-NY)
def. 1812: Henry Lee III (Fed.-VA)/Thomas Robertson (Fed.-OH), James Iredell (Rep.-NC), James Hillhouse (Pea.Fed.-CT), John Randolph (Qui.Rep.-OH)/Joseph Desha (Qui.Rep.-KY)
def. 1816: Harrison G. Otis (Fed.-MA)/Humphrey Marshall (Fed.-KY), George Madison (Sta.Rig.-KY)/Thomas Sumter (Sta.Rig.-SC)
1821-1825: Philip J. Schuyler (Fed.-NY)/Humphrey Marshall (Fed.-KY)
def. 1820: John Armstrong, Jr. (Rep.NY)/John Williams (Rep.TN), Joseph Desha (Sta.Rig.-KY)/Nathaniel Macon (Sta.Rig.-NC)
1825-1829: Franklin Boyd (Rep.-WF)/Francis S. Key (Rep.-MD)
def. 1824: Humphrey Marshall (Fed.-KY)/Louis McLane (Fed.-DE), Thomas Spalding (Sta.Rig.-GA)/John A. Cocke (Sta.Rig.-KY), Philip J. Schuyler (Lib.-NY)/John T. Carter (Lib.-VA)
1829: Edmund J. Lee (Fed.-VA)/Peter B. Porter (Fed.-NY) †
def. 1828: Edward Livingston (Rep.-NY)/Thomas H. Benton (Rep.-TN), Augustine Clark (Lib.-VT)/Lewis Tappan (Lib.-NY), Charles F. Mercer (Con.-VA)/Charles Polk, Jr. (Fed.-DE)
1829: Peter B. Porter (Fed.-NY)/vacant
1829: Peter B. Porter (Fed.-NY)/Charles Adams (Fed.-MA)
1833-1841: William Hendricks (Fed.-IN)/Charles Adams (Fed.-MA)
def. 1832: Thomas H. Benton (Rep.-TN)/Samuel Bell (Rep.-NH)
def. 1836: Oliver H. Perry (Rep.-RI)/William R. King (Rep.-EY)
1841-1849: William L. Marcy (Rep.-NY)/John Tyler, Jr. (Rep.VA)
def. 1840: John Bell (Fed.-TN)/Rufus Choate (Fed.-MA), Joseph Smith (Chr.Dem.-OH)/Peter Cartwright (Chr.Dem.-WA), Lewis Tappan (Lib.-NY)/various
def. 1844: Joseph Smith (Chr.Dem.-OH)/Peter Cartwright (Chr.Dem.-WA), John McLean (Ame.-NJ)/Lewis Tappan (Ame.-NY)
1849-1857: Rufus Choate (Fed.-MA)/James Acker (Fed.-VA) 1849
def. 1848 William H. Roane (Ame.-VA)/Thurlow Weed (Ame.-NY), Joseph Smith (Chr.Dem.-OH)/Lyman Beecher (Chr.Dem.-NY), James J. Roosevelt (Rep.-NY)/Thomas J. Rusk (Rep.-SC)
def. 1852: Fernando Wood (Ame.-NY)/Stephen A. Douglass (Ame.-VT), Joseph Smith (Chr.Dem.-OH)/George C. Washington (Chr.Dem.-MD), John McLean (Fre.Ame.-OH)/John Brown (Fre.Ame.-MA), Robert Rhett (Sou.Rep.-SC)/David R. Atchison (Sou.Rep.-KY)
1857-1858: Fernando Wood (Ame.-NY)/Alexander D. Bache (Ame.-PA) î
def. 1856: James Acker (Fed.-VA)/John J. Crittenden (Fed.-KY), Joseph E. Davis (Sou.-WF)/Robert B. Rhett, Sr. (Sou.-SC), Samuel H. Smith (Chr.Dem.-OH)/John Whitmer (Chr.Dem.-WI), Andrew Johnson (Pop.-TN)/William C. Rives (Pop.-VA), Levi D. Boone (Chr.Dem.-WA)/Lyman Beecher (Chr.Dem.-NY)
1858: Alexander D. Bache (Ame.-PA)/vacant
1858-1861: Alexander D. Bache (Ame.-PA)/George S. Boutwell (Ame.-MA)
1861-1865: Robert E. Lee (Fed.-VA)/Horace Maynard (Fed.-TN)
def. 1860: Alexander D. Bache (Ame.-PA)/George S. Boutwell (Ame.-MA), Henry W. Halleck (Pop.-LK)/Joseph Holt (Pop.-KY), Solomon Levi (Pat.-RI)/John Brough (Pat.OH)
1865: Robert E. Lee (Fed.-VA)/Andrew Johnson (Pop.-TN) †
def. 1864: /John Adams II (Fed.-MA), Henry W. Halleck (Pop.-LK)/, Fernando Wood (Ame.-NY)/John Brown (Ame.-MA)
1865: Andrew Johnson (Pop.-TN)/vacant
1865-1869: Andrew Johnson (Pop.-TN)/Lovell H. Rousseau (Pop.-IN)
1869-1877: Nathaniel P. Banks (Ame.-MA)/Austin Blair (Ame.-MI)
def. 1868: Samuel P. Lee (Fed.-VA)/Thomas A. Hendricks (Fed.-IN), Andrew Johnson (Pop.-TN)/Lovell H. Rousseau (Pop.-IN), John Brown (Ame.-MA)/Horace Greeley (Ame.-NY), Marcus Livingston (Val.-FK)/Boris Mayard (Val.-GA), John Wentworth (Fed.-WA)/James A. Bayard, Jr. (Fed.-DE), George Meander (Dem.-WA)/Gregory Mansfield (Dem.-NY)
def. 1872: Wendell Phillips (NWF-MA)/Gregory Mansfield (NWF-NY), Samuel P. Lee (Fed.-VA)/Lewis D. Campbell (Fed.-OH), Henry W. Halleck (Pop.-LK)/Levi D. Boone (Pop.-WA)
1877-1881: Henry B. Whipple (Wor.-MN)/William R. Taylor (Wor.-NY)
def. 1876: Nathaniel P. Banks (Ame.-MA)/Austin Blair (Ame.-MI), Benjamin H. Bristow (Fed.-KY)/Thomas F. Bayard, Sr. (Fed.-DE)
1881: Frederick T. Frelinghuysen (Fed.-NJ)/William B. Allison (Fed.-SK) †
def. 1880: William R. Taylor (Wor.-NY)/William A. Wheeler (Wor.-NY), Emerson Unferhow (Ame.-CL)/Roscoe Conkling (Ame.-NY), John Russell (Pro.-MI)/Gideon T. Stewart (Pro.-OH), Wilford Woodruff (Chr.Dem.-UT)/various
1881: William B. Allison (Fed.-SK)/vacant
1881-1885: William B. Allison (Fed.-SK)/Thomas F. Bayard, Sr. (Fed.-DE)
1885-1889: David B. Knickerbocker (Wor.-MN)/Edward Cooper (Wor.-NY)
def. 1884: William B. Allison (Fed.-SK)/Samuel J. Randall (Fed.-PA), Edward Blake (Lib.Ref.-HU)/Robert B. Roosevelt (Lib.Ref.-NY), Thomas F. Bayard, Sr. (Fed.-DE)/John H. Gray (Fed.-NB), Robert Smalls (Ame.-SC)/Samuel B. Callahan (Fed.-EY), Givens T. Stewart (Pro.-OH)/John P. St. John (Pro-PL)
1889-present: George A. Custer (Fed.-OH)/Eli M. Saulsbury (Fed.-DE)
def. 1888: David B. Knickerbocker (Wor.-MN)/Edward Cooper (Wor.-NY), Samuel Levi (NPA-RI)/Charles B. Farwell (Lib.Ref.-WA), Samuel Levi (NPA-RI)/Benjamin S. Turner (Ame.-EY), David B. Knickerbocker (Wor.-MN)/John P. St. John (Pro.-FK)
def. 1892: Isaac P. Gray (Wor.-IN)/William H. Felton (Wor.-GA), John B. Gordon (Con.-GA)/Richard H. Wilmer (Con.-TN), /John R. Lynch (Ame.-WY), Fitzhugh J. MacManus (Pro.-WA)/John P. St. John (Pro.-FK), Uriah S. Stephens (Soq.Lab.-PA)/Samuel Levi (Soq.Lab.-RI)

 

[Yes]

Forgotten No More: An Ode to John

A dear friend of mine, who died long before his time, was a direct male descendant of Ward's, so you get an extra (if unregistered) "like" for this list.

 

[Osk]

A dear friend of mine, who died long before his time, was a direct male descendant of Ward's, so you get an extra (if unregistered) "like" for this list.

I'm sorry to hear that! :/ But, glad his ancestor made it onto the list as the first President then

 

[Yes]

IF WISHES WERE HORSES, SOME THINGS WOULD STILL SUCK

Donald J. Trump* (R-NY)/Gov. Michael R. "Mike" Pence (R-IN) 2017-2019

Vice President Michael R. "Mike" Pence (R-IN)/Sen. Marco A. Rubio (R-FL) 2019-2021

Sen. Elizabeth A. Warren (D-MA)/Sen. Sherrod C. Brown** 2021-2026
/Gov. Antonio R. Villaraigosa 2026-29
2020 def. Pres. Michael R. "Mike" Pence (R-IN)/Vice Pres. Marco A. Rubio (R-FL)
2024 def. Sen. Rafael "Ted" Cruz (R-TX)/Gov. Casey Cagle (R-GA)

Sen. Seth Moulton (D-MA)/Gov. Kamala Harris (D-CA) 2029-
2028 def. Sen. Donald Trump Jr. (R-FL)/Sen. Mike Lee (R-UT)

At first, after all the legal fights, the years of protests, the grandstanding, the economic roller-coaster, the strutting authoritarianism, the homegrown violence, the war scare with China, and all the rest, it was still a shock beyond measure to all points on the American political spectrum when President Trump, the most polarizing American political figure in memory, who had made a life's work out of his strutting, vigorous masculinity, collapsed of a fatal pulmonary embolism, the physical cost of a man in worse shape than he would ever allow to be known doing the world's most stressful job for over three years. But from his opponents' perspective things grew worse not better under President Pence, who was more nakedly authoritarian in legal terms than Trump had been (Pence's predecessor had relied on free media, bullying, corporate leverage, and whipping up his loyalists more than repressive statutory measures), presided over a last, furious Republican attempt to privatize Social Security, and a cause dear to his heart, the 5-4 rejection of Roe v. Wade by the Supreme Court. But the years of civil unrest, economic stagnation now punctuated by another burst stock-market bubble, and a backlash against the backlash that produced Trump galvanized bottom-up political forces against the stumbling, authoritarian Pence. The Democrats' champions, drawn now from the left wing of the party, trounced Pence at the polls in 2020. There were wild celebrations in city streets that dwarfed the excitement of Barack Obama's 2008 election: dragons were slain, and a broad swath of Democratic and other left-leaning organizers, protesters, and ground-level activists figured they could hang up their swords. They were wrong. Between the endless legal challenges to Warren's efforts to build a more social-democratic model of America, the slow implosion of Saudi Arabia abroad, the renewed cold war with Russia, the hard slog back to ground-level national prosperity, and the unprecedented whipping up of open violence against the Democratic platform (including the death of Warren's beloved daughter during an IED attack on her mother's presidential convoy on a Kansas highway and multiple foiled assassination attempts by Three Percenters, Sons of Liberty, and other domestic terrorist groups who now marched openly in Republican-leaning streets) the Twenties were no one's idea of an easy decade. There were up sides -- by the middle of her second term Warren was able to wrest back a 5-4 liberal margin on the Supreme Court after Clarence Thomas' passing, and when Sherrod Brown retired as Vice President due to failing health (the increasingly frail Warren clung to her iron will and kept at the job to her last day) she took the opportunity to appoint the first Latino ever to serve at the executive level of the United States, retiring California governor Antonio Villaraigosa. Villaraigosa declined to run after Warren's time ended on grounds of age, and the primaries and convention yielded a victory for the party's "coastal mafia": straight white male war hero Seth Moulton of Massachusetts, and multi-racial, multi-talented symbol of the future California governor Kamala Harris. Against them was ranged the champion of the white populist rage that had grown ever harder the more it was cornered politically over the course of the decade, son of the late father of the movement, Donald Trump Jr. (joined by a representative of the GOP establishment, Mike Lee of Utah.) It was a surprisingly difficult election, and the son of The Donald was true to his father's model. Angrily refusing to accept the outcome as legitimate, Trump Junior brazenly encouraged his open-carry followers to take their grief and frustration to the streets. The ex-Marine Moulton and the unflappable Harris, who had really made their names in this turbulent decade, were not like the Democratic politicians of the previous generation, in a defensive crouch against corporate money. They were ready for the battle when it came. And so it went on...

*= died in office
**= resigned on health grounds

 

[Uhura's Mazda]

This isn't really the right thread for this, but there isn't a right thread for this, so here you go anyway.

But: A Jacobite Phantasm

Kings of Great Britain
1714-1727: George I (House of Hannover)
1727-1760: George II (House of Hannover)
1760-1789: George III (House of Hannover) [1]
1789-1793: George IV (House of Hannover) [2]

Protector of the British Commonwealth
1793-1805: Charles James Fox (Radical) [3]

Kings of Britain
1805-1808: Henry IX (House of Stuart) [4]
1809-1826: James IV (House of Stuart) [5]

Kings of Great Britain and Ireland
1826-1827: Frederick I (House of Hannover) [6]
1827-0000: Augustus I (House of Hannover)

[1] - George III was the first British monarch to abdicate voluntarily, for a given value of 'voluntary'. He had been prepared to throw in the towel after losing the Thirteen Colonies in the late 70s and early 80s, but had been dissuaded. Now, several years later, he was becoming more and more aware that his mental state was becoming less stable due to the stresses of office (some historians have claimed that he had a condition known as 'porphyria' as well as mere stress, but obviously they cannot prove it without his body). And as London erupted in 1789 with the fires of riots and protests, which began in sympathy with the Parisians and continued with more of a focus on the plight of the English poor, George III had had enough. He presented his abdication to Parliament in a historic and unannounced Speech from the Throne, and after a long debate on whether that was even legally possible, Pitt the Younger allowed him to retire to his beloved Buckingham House.

[2] - To tell the truth, the Revolutionary ferment before the Abdication had been a thoroughly insipid brew, and was widely expected to die down naturally - but the Abdication had shown the Radicals that they could remove anybody they pleased if they stuck at it, so well-known events such as the Battle of the Strand, the Four Days of Southwark, and the September Affrays ensued with heightening viciousness and frequency. George IV was much less popular than his father - a boorish drunkard with a taste for women that no right-thinking bourgeois Protestant would condone. So the right-thinking bourgeois Protestants stayed at home rather than fight the Revolutionaries. After the torching of the Houses of Parliament - during a well-attended sitting - by the Horse Guards in 1792, events took an even more dangerous turn, and the 504 ensuing by-elections were mostly won by Radical or Whig candidates. They passed extreme laws based on those promulgated by the French, and imprisoned the Royal Family in 1793. A dictatorship under Charles James Fox, a moderate Radical, was announced, and the British Terror claimed its first victim in Burgher George as he was guillotined the following Spring.

[3] - Now that a Government sympathetic to Revolutionary ideals had been put in place in Britain, there was pressure from Paris to contribute to the defensive war against the Imperial powers. This was, of course, made more difficult by the fact that most of the Generals were on their way to the scaffolds for the crime of being aristocratic, but the Navy was not affected quite as much due to the fact that reaching a high rank in that Service required some form of intelligence or skill, a system unique in Britain at the time. So newly-promoted Admiral Cochrane (himself an aristocrat, later inheriting the Earldom of Dundonald) performed sterling work for his Radical allies in keeping the French trading routes open and blockading much of the Mediterranean and North Sea coastlines of the anti-Republican Coalition. Back home, Fox was introducing major reforms, such as the emancipation of Catholics and Slaves and the timely abolition of the House of Lords. But Fox was becoming unpopular in the country at large as his earlier liberal principles devolved into the usual reign of terror that accompanies Revolutionary dictators - and you're never quite sure whether the Terror refers to the fear of Counter-Revolutionaries or the fear of execution. Eventually, Fox even lost the support of the French, as their political wheel of fortune landed them with 'Empereur Jacques Macdonald' in 1804, and the Radicals in Britain were left without allies in Britain or elsewhere.

[4] - Emperor Macdonald was, as the name implies, a Scotsman, son of an exiled Jacobite who had settled in France. Naturally, the great General and hero of battles too numerous to mention wanted an ally on his seaward flank, so in 1805, he paid his homage to the Pope (still a keen supporter of the Bourbons) and pacified him by offering the British throne to one of his Cardinals, Henry Benedict Stuart, who was officially called 'the Cardinal Duke of York' in the Papal States. The Pope jumped at the idea of finally returning England and Scotland to the fold, and pressured the reluctant Cardinal to accept. He duly did so, and while the tiny Channel Fleet (weakened since nobody was expecting treachery from the French while Britain was ensuring their colonial trade got through) was on manouevres in Biscay, Cardinal York and 6,000 French troops landed in Medway. York's banner rallied most of the Old Tories who still bore a flame for the Stuarts, and most of the Hanoverian supporters, who were just desperate for a King at this point, no matter how Catholic. There was very little opposition from the decapitated Army on the way to London, and once the Cardinal had been crowned and Fox cast into the Tower, there was no point in resisting.

[5] - Henry IX, 80 years old when he became King, did not last long, but he did manage two major things on a domestic level: as Head of the Church of England, he healed the Schism with Rome (although there are a few hundred congregations of Continuity Anglicans to this day); and as King, he was released from his vows of celibacy and engaged to Emperor Macdonald's eldest daughter. Despite the fact that the age difference put off many of the more squeamish Britons, this match did what it was supposed to do, and Queen Anne-Charlotte was pregnant by the time Henry IX died in 1808. Now, James IV was actually born in April 1809, but his reign is backdated to 1808 for odd legal reasons. He was never to rule in his own right, though, as Emperor Macdonald was eventually defeated by the Anti-Imperial Coalition in 1818, despite the presence of four divisions of battle-hardened British infantry arriving at Waterloo about midday - they were too late to save the Emperor, and Brits have been mocked for their lateness ever since by our Continental cousins. Anyway, James IV, as a child, enjoyed the acquiescence, if not the support, of most of the political Establishment, who foresaw that they could control him more easily than they could the Elector of Hannover, who had served as a Field Marshal in the Austrian Army and physically killed British soldiers during the Macdonaldic Wars.

[6] - In 1826, though (when James IV was 17 years old and going through an awkward phase of adolescence which made Prime Minister Londonderry think he was a complete dickhead) Elector Friedrich, Duke of York and Albany landed with a few hundred Guelphic Legionaries and marched on London, which was at that point getting quite bored of being the focus of political life for the first and only time in that city's lengthy history. After the four-day Battle of Ilford, the capital was open for the taking, and the House of Hannover was restored under King Frederick I. James IV was reduced to 'Duke of Albany' and kept under armed guard for the rest of his long life. But Frederick died a year later and was followed by his more amenable brother, Augustus. All other brothers of that generation were either killed in action or executed by Charles James Fox, of course, and all of the surviving sisters are elderly and childless. It is unclear whether the King's cousin, the dashing (and Brit-killing) Duke of Brunswick, will succeed, or whether King Augustus will legitimise his handicapped son. This is a thing which kind of needs to be addressed.Or we could have another Civil War. Either/Or.

 

[Nofix]

@Asami good job on giving all the current lists a threadmark. Very clever:

Also, not to be a drag, but "Tommy J gets shot in 1803" isn't quite a correct title for my list. Jefferson got sick and died, he didn't get shot (although a TL wherein the President duels someone, and dies, would be an interesting, if outlandish, one).

 

[Asami]

Also, not to be a drag, but "Tommy J gets shot in 1803" isn't quite a correct title for my list. Jefferson got sick and died, he didn't get shot (although a TL wherein the President duels someone, and dies, would be an interesting, if outlandish, one).

You're right. That's pretty much the one I fucked up on. Can you change it?

 

[Oppo]

Not So Cold Anymore

Basically, Nixon chooses Walter Judd instead of Henry Cabot Lodge II, and wins the election due to Nixon abandoning his 50-state campaign early on. Fast forward to 1995. A satellite is confused for a nuclear missile, leading the Soviets to launch a counterattack, killing all of DC. The highest ranking military official in the area is a young Air Force Colonel named Lindsey Graham. Fast forward to 2017. A crazy dictator has taken over the United States, with a good amount of the country seceding from the Union. What will happen next? Only time will tell.

Presidents of the United States (1961-1995)

1961-1963: Richard Millhouse Nixon/Walter Henry Judd (Republican)
1960: John Fitzgerald Kennedy/Lyndon Baines Johnson (Democrat)
1963-1965: Walter Henry Judd/Vacant (Republican)
1965-1969: Walter Henry Judd/Hugh Doggett Scott (Republican)
1964: Abraham Alexander Ribicoff/George Docking (Democrat)
1969-1973: Walter Henry Judd/Phillip Herman Wilkie (Republican)
1968: Emanuel J. Evans/Theodore Chaikin Sorensen (Democrat)
1973-1975: Phillip Herman Wilkie/John Goodwin Tower (Republican)
1972: Paul Martin Simon/Samuel Pearson Goodard Jr. (Democrat)
1975-1977: John Goodwin Tower/Vacant (Republican)
1977-1985: Richard Howard Ichord/Benny Frank Barnes (Democrat)
1976: Rogers Clark Ballard Morton/Jack Eckerd (Republican), John Goodwin Tower/Eldon Dean Rudd (Independent)
1980: Peter Hoyt Dominick/Richard R. Jones (Republican)
1985-1993: Norman Howard Bangerter/Avi Nelson (Republican)
1984: Benny Frank Barnes/Stephen Gerald Breyer (Democrat)
1988: Albert Arnold Gore Jr/Alben Barkley II (Democrat)
1993-1995: Toney Anaya/Robert Samuel Kerr III (Democrat)
1992: Avi Nelson/Jerry Aroe Thomas (Republican)
1995: Lindsey Olin Graham/Vacant (Independent)

Abolishment of the Office of President of the United States

First Minister of the United States

1995-1999: Lindsey Olin Graham (Independent)
1995: Michael Wayne Martin (Moral Majority), Lenora Branch Fulani (Action!)
1999-2003: Lindsey Olin Graham (National Alliance)
1999: Oliver Laurence North (America First), Michael Wayne Martin (Moral Majority), Lenora Branch Fulani (Action!)
2003-2007: Joseph Maxwell Cleland (Recovery Coalition)
2003: Oliver Laurence North (America First), Howard Brush Dean III (Liberal), Francis Anthony Keating III (Conservative), Michael Wayne Martin (Moral Majority), Lenora Branch Fulani (Action!)
2007-2008: Francis Anthony Keating III (Conservative)
2007: Sheila J. Simon (Recovery Coalition), Howard Brush Dean III (Liberal), Oliver Laurence North (America First), Michael Wayne Martin (Moral Majority), Keith Maurice Ellison (Action!)
2008-Present: Michael Wayne Martin (Moral Majority-Lead Coup D'état)

Prime Ministers of the Republic of California and Greater Pacific

2011-2015: Edmund Gerald Brown Jr. (Independent)
2012: Unopposed
2015-Present: Antiono Ramón Villiaraigosa (Federal)
2014: Peter Barton Wilson (Conservative), Orenthal James Simpson (Declare Your Rights), Albert Arnold Gore Jr. (My California), Gary Earl Johnson (Legal Marijuana Now!), Harry Mason Reid (Beehive)
2016: Orenthal James Simpson (Declare Your Rights), Susana Martinez (Conservative), Albert Arnold Gore Jr. (My California), Gary Earl Johnson (Legal Marijuana Now!), Harry Mason Reid (Beehive)

Governor-Generals of the Chesapeake Federation

2011: William Worthington Scranton III (Independent)
2011-2017: William Worthington Scranton III/Michael Stephen Steele (Great Society)
2013: Donna F. Edwards/Charlotte Prit (Our Path), Robert Patrick Casey Jr/Earl Ryan Tomblin (Workers')
2017-Present: Michael Stephen Steele/Richard John Santorum (Great Society)
2017: Zeyphr Rain Teachout/Margaret Flowers (Our Path), Mark Robert Warner/Steve R. Schuh (Workers'), Christine Therese O'Donnell/Kathy Szeliga (Chesapeake First)

List of Chancellors of New England

2011: Howard Brush Dean III
2011-2017: Howard Brush Dean III (Liberal)
2012: William Francis Lee III (For Us)
2014: Christopher Scott Murphy (For Us), Joseph Isadore Liberman (Conservative), Stephen Francis Lynch (Workers')
2017-Present: Stephen Francis Lynch (Workers'-Conservative Coalition)
2016: Howard Brush Dean III (Liberal), Gina Marie Riamondo (For Us), Brianna Wu (Pirate)

Supreme Leaders of the Union of the Mid-West

2011-Present: Rob Blagojevich (Mid-Western Workers' Party)
2011: None
2061: TBD

 

[Nofix]

You're right. That's pretty much the one I fucked up on. Can you change it?

I don't believe I can. Because you're the thread creator, I'm fairly certain only you can make threadmarks, name them, and change them.

 

[Asami]

I don't believe I can. Because you're the thread creator, I'm fairly certain only you can make threadmarks, name them, and change them.

wheyy, fixed it.

 

[Catalunya]

2017 - 2021: Donald Trump / Mike Pence (Republican)
2016: Hillary Clinton / Tim Kaine (Democratic)
2021 - 2029: Elizabeth Warren / Cory Booker (Democrat)
2020: Donald Trump / Mike Pence (Republican) , Loretta Sanchez / Daniel B. Sharpio (Independent)
2024: Mike Pence / Todd Young (Republican)
2029 - 2033: Cory Booker / Tulsi Gabbard (Democratic)
2028: Marco Rubio / Tony Hwang (Republican)
2033 - 2041: Chris Sununu / Rand Paul (Republican)
2032: Cory Booker / Tulsi Gabbard (Democratic) , Ivanka Trump / Randall L. Stephenson (Independent)
2036: Kamala Harris / Joaquin Castro (Democratic) , Ivanka Trump / Zachary Belworth (Independent)

 

[Cevolian]

Nice list one quibble I have is that I'm doubtful any ticket with Gabbard on would be that likely to win - if the Republicans can dredge up her past shady dealings, connections to India's Administration, etc. I think left wing turnout would be depressed and independents turned off...

 

[glenn67]

2017 - 2021: Donald Trump / Mike Pence (Republican)
2016: Hillary Clinton / Tim Kaine (Democratic)
2021 - 2029: Elizabeth Warren / Cory Booker (Democrat)
2020: Donald Trump / Mike Pence (Republican) , Loretta Sanchez / Daniel B. Sharpio (Independent)
2024: Mike Pence / Todd Young (Republican)
2029 - 2033: Cory Booker / Tulsi Gabbard (Democratic)
2028: Marco Rubio / Tony Hwang (Republican)
2033 - 2041: Chris Sununu / Rand Paul (Republican)
2032: Cory Booker / Tulsi Gabbard (Democratic) , Ivanka Trump / Randall L. Stephenson (Independent)
2036: Kamala Harris / Joaquin Castro (Democratic) , Ivanka Trump / Zachary Belworth (Independent)

Pence and Young are from the same state. They can't run on the same ticket.

 

[Catalunya]

Pence and Young are from the same state. They can't run on the same ticket.

I didn't even realize they are from the same state

 

[loneranger]

@Asami good job on giving all the current lists a threadmark. Very clever:

Also, not to be a drag, but "Tommy J gets shot in 1803" isn't quite a correct title for my list. Jefferson got sick and died, he didn't get shot (although a TL wherein the President duels someone, and dies, would be an interesting, if outlandish, one).

I would like one wherein Andrew Jackson duels Calhoun. What the hell happens when the sitting VP kills the sitting President? He likely gets removed from office ASAP and the whole country goes to shit. Could be fun to read.

 

[Japhy]

Nice list one quibble I have is that I'm doubtful any ticket with Gabbard on would be that likely to win - if the Republicans can dredge up her past shady dealings, connections to India's Administration, etc. I think left wing turnout would be depressed and independents turned off...

She's far more likely to become a Republican really

 

[Cevolian]

THE OTHER ROYAL FAMILY:
Or "Teaching the Roosevelts the true meaning of 'Dynasty'"
​

1916-1923: David Lloyd George ("Coalition" Liberal leading Wartime National Government with Conservatives, National Labour and Independent Nationals)
1923-1926: David Lloyd George (Liberal Minority with Labour Confidence and Supply)
1923 def - Andrew Bonar Law (Conservative), J.R. Clynes (Labour), Herbert Asquith ("Asquithians")
1926-1930: George Curzon (Conservative Majority)
1926 def - David Lloyd-George (Liberal-Labour), James Maxton ("Clydeside" Labour), Herbert Gladstone ("True" Liberals)
1930-1931: Austen Chamberlain (Conservative leading National Government with National Liberals and Independent Nationals)
1931-1939: Oswald Mosley (Progressive leading National Government with Labour, Nation First Conservatives and Independent Nationals)
1931 def - Austen Chamberlain/John Simon (National Alliance -- Conservative-National Liberal), Stafford Cripps (Labour), Winston Churchill (Nation First Conservatives),
1935 def - Anthony Eden (New Democratic), Clement Attlee (Labour), Winston Churchill (Nation First Conservatives)
1939-1940: Gwilym Lloyd George (New Democratic Majority)
1939 def - Oswald Mosley (Progressive), Clement Attlee (Labour), Winston Churchill (Nation First)
1940-1948: Gwilym Lloyd George (New Democratic leading Wartime National Government with Progressives, Labour, Nation First and Independent Nationals)
1948-1950: Gwilym Lloyd George (New Democratic Majority)
1948 def - Herbert Morison (Progressive), Winston Churchill (National), Arthur Greenwood (Labour)
1950-1952: Harold Macmillan (New Democratic Majority)
1952-19---: Megan Lloyd George (Progressive Majority)
1952 def - Harold Macmillan (New Democratic), Duncan Sandys (National), Nye Bevan ("Continuity" Labour)

1916 - Lloyd George handles the split in the party better, and the result is that about half stay in the government, so in 1923 the party is able to reunite and wins a narrow minority in the next election despite H.H. and a couple of Asquithians staying separate from the party. This new government falls over an Alt-General Strike in 1926, with Labour splitting between a Christopher Addison led "Moderate" wing and a Maxton led wing which supports the risings in Scotland and the major industrial cities. The Tories win a snap election, but then the Depression hits and Curzon is forced to resign, being replaced by a Chamberlain led National Government which, in turn, leads to Mosley winning out and forming a government to deal with the depression. With his eocnomic measures a success but his appeasement foreign policy is seen as a disaster, and Gwilym Lloyd leads the New Democrats to victory, then the country into a long, brutal, war with Germany and the Soviet Union. The Anglo-Franco-Chinese alliance eventually wins the war, driving the Soviets out of Manchuria and the Western SSRs, but only with Britain dropping an atomic bomb on Moscow. The Prime Minister goes on to win another victory, but the post-war economic malaise and the scheming of his ministers convinces him to resign. His successor Macmillan, in a humiliation for the party as the Nationals suck away votes, loses to his former leader's sister, promising to "Build on the Legacy of my Father and my Brother, and to ensure justice and fairness for all". But with war looming with the Soviet Union, it seems like the sister of the men who won the wars might have to win one of her own...