List of Alternate Presidents and PMs II

[Cevolian]

Stephen Crabb (Conservative)

I'm not so sure Crabb will get over his little scandal enough to ever become PM...

Ah, right. So he was an advocate of splitting of a new rightist party? I see. Thanks.
There's a nice quote on his Wikipedia page:

"[Verney was] a genial and sporting young peer, whose face bore a pleasing resemblance to the horse."

Delightful!

I don't really see the Labour Party base getting over their adoration of Corbyn that quickly. If Corbyn has to fall on his sword after an election defeat, I'm sure that McDonnell or one of his allies will be elevated in his absence. It's an interesting list though - interesting because most of the 2016 'Tory candidates eventually work their way to the top.

And yeah Verney was an advocate of the radical right of the Tories splitting off.

 

[theev]

S E C E S S I O N


1977-1979: James E. Carter/Walter Mondale (Democratic) 1
1976: Gerald Ford/Robert Dole (Republican)
1979-1979: Walter Mondale/Vacant (Democratic)
1979-1985: Walter Mondale/Lloyd Bentsen (Democratic) 2
1980: Ronald Reagan/James R. Thompson (Republican) , John B. Anderson/Elliot Richardson (Independent)
1985-1987: George Bush/Dan Crane (Republican) 3
1984: John B. Anderson/Ed Brooke (National Union) , Joseph Biden/Dale Bumpers (Democratic) , Jesse Jackson/Marion Berry (DC Statehood)
1987-1987: Dan Crane/Vacant (Republican) 4
1987-1993: Dan Crane/Bill Brock (Republican) 5
1988: Mario Cuomo/Henry Cisneros (Democratic) , Lowell P. Weicker Jr./Charles Mathias (National Union)
1993-1997: Dan Crane/Phil Gramm (Republican) 6
1992: Sam Nunn/Bill Bradley (Democratic) , Lowell P. Weicker Jr./Thomas Kean (National Union)
1997-2001: Colin Powell/Michael Bloomberg (National Union) 7
1996: Jerry Brown/Jim Hightower (Democratic) , Phil Gramm/Oliver North (Republican)
2001-2009: Jim Hunt/Evan Bayh (Democratic) 8
2000: Jon Kyl/Frank Keating (Republican) , Michael Bloomberg/John McCain (National Union)
2004: Trent Lott/Fred Upton (Republican) , Michael Bloomberg/Lincoln Chaffee (National Union)
2009-2013: Mike Huckabee/Fred Thompson (Republican) 9
2008: Rudy Giuliani/Tim Kaine (Democratic) , Michael Bloomberg/Mitt Romney (National Union)
2013-0000: Jim Webb/Al Gore (Democratic) 10
2012: Mike Huckabee/Tom Cole (Republican) , Mitt Romney/John H. Cox (National Union)
2016: Sam Brownback/Mel Martinez (Republican) , Lincoln Chaffee/George Pataki(National Union)


1 "What's going on back th-"

2 "I hope that Alaskans keep in mind that secession is illegal and that there will be consequences for their actions."

3 "After this previous decade America needs a reset."

4 "If Air Force One can go down then any plane can go down."

5 "If the American people ever wish to rekindle with its fallen brother then it must not be so dependent on the mercies and whims of Alaska's fickle political situation."

6 "The Soviet Union collapsed, it may have been bloody but it collapsed."

7 "I have no desire to run for a second term or serve another four years as President in any capacity."

8 "We're not your daddy's Democratic Party."

9 "America, we can do better! Don't let elitists like Vice President Bayh and Governor Giuliani control you!"

10 "The world looks to us to lead them into the future."


1983-1987: Wally Hickel/Joe Vogler (Alaskan Independence) 1
1987-1988: Joe Vogler/Don Wright (Alaska First) 2
1986: Steve Cowper/Terry Miller (Moderate) , Mike Gravel/Kim Elton (Peace and Freedom)
1988-1988: Don Wright/Vacant (Alaska First) 3
1988-1995: Don Wright/Al Rowe (Alaska First) 4
1990: Bill Sheffield/Clark Gruening (Moderate) , Mike Gravel/Alberta Schenk Adams (Peace and Freedom)
1995-2003: Clark Gruening/Loren Leman (Moderate) 5
1994: Al Rowe/Jack Coghill (Alaska First) , Mike Gravel/Dick Randolph (Peace and Freedom)
1998: Jack Coghill/Margaret Ward (Alaska First) , Mike Gravel/Jed Whittaker (Peace and Freedom)
2003-2007: Sarah Palin/Daniel DeNardo (Alaska First) 6
2002: Mike Gravel/Jed Whittaker (Peace and Freedom) , Loren Leman/Ken Fanning (Moderate)
2007-2011: Mike Gravel/Andrew Halcro (Peace and Freedom) 7
2006: Tony Knowles/Fran Ulmer (Moderate) , Sarah Palin/Daniel DeNardo (Alaska First) , Various Alaska First
2011-0000: Byron Mallott/Bill Walker (Moderate) 8
2010: Andrew Halcro/Fay Von Gemmingen (Peace and Freedom) , Doug Welton/Bob Bird (Alaska First)
2014: Bob Bird/Verne Rupright (Alaska First) , Ethan Berkowitz/Diane E. Benson (Peace and Freedom)


1 "Surprised Mondale? Hell, that surprised me! 52% for leaving the union smashed my expectations!"

2 "A soldier in every family and a chicken in every pot."

3 "The assassination of President Vogler is all the evidence we need to see that the wounds from the War for Independence have not yet healed."

4 "This nation is going to need a tough sheriff to keep the people safe."

5 "We need to rethink our foreign policy. Historically, pig-headed isolationism never helped anyone."

6 "Let me ask you; were you better off before or after Clark Gruening became president?"

7 "Rock. Our country has been sinking like a rock."

8 "Alaska needs a united government committed to helping all of its citizens."

 

[Aaaaasima]

BRAVO @theev

 

[dw93]

An Earlier and Bigger Bush Dynasty:

Richard Nixon | Spiro Agnew: 1969-1973
Richard Nixon | Vacant: 1973-1973
Richard Nixon | George HW Bush: 1973-1974

George HW Bush | Vacant: 1974-1974
George HW Bush | Bob Dole: 1974-1981

Henry "Scoop" Jackson | Dale Bumpers: 1981-1982

Dale Bumpers | Vacant: 1982-1982
Dale Bumpers | Gary Hart: 1982-1989

George W. Bush | Pete Wilson: 1989-1997

Pete Wilson | Jim Edgar: 1997-2001

Al Gore | Howard Dean: 2001-2009

John "Jeb" Bush | Lincoln Chafee: 2009-2013

Barack Obama | Martin O'Malley: 2013-2021

 

[Major Crimson]

The first 20ish years of a TL I'm working on, hopefully going to post the first installment tonight so uh, spoilers if you're interested! PoD is in the mid 1870s:


The Red Crown is Born - 1892-1910


1892-1894 Earl Spencer (Liberal Minority - 261 Seats )
Defeated: Marquess of Landsdown (Conservative 239 ), Justin McCarthy (Irish - 75), Bernard Shaw (Imperial Socialists 48), Joseph Chamberlain (Liberal Unionist - 42), Others and Independents (Multiple - 7)
1894-1899 Henry Campbell Bannerman (Liberal-Imperial Socialist Coalition - 333 (244 & 89) Seats)
Defeated: Marquess of Landsdown (Conservative - 247), Bernard Shaw (Imperial Socialists - 89), Justin McCarthy (Irish - 64), Joseph Chamberlain (Liberal Unionist - 49), Others and Independents (Multiple - 9)
1899-1906 Henry Campbell Bannerman (Liberal Majority - 301 Seats)
Defeated: Earl of Curzon (Conservative - 194), Bertrand Russell (Imperial Socialists - 84), Joseph Chamberlain (National Unionist - 67), DD Sheehan (Irish - 61), Others and Independents (Multiple - 9)
1906-1910 John Morley (Liberal Minority 231)
Defeated: Leonard Darwin (Conservative - 124), Bertrand Russell (Imperial Socialists - 97), Austin Chamberlain (National Unionist - 89), AV Dicey ("High Tory" Conservative - 80), DD Sheehan (Irish - 55), Others and Independents (Multiple - 6)




I'm sure this is pretty flawed and lots of it is very open to change so advice and critique would be appreciated. I'm open to any and all questions.

 

[jmberry]

So I wanted to do a list based on what I thought American politics would be like in the wake of the Democrats' congressional victories in 2006. Numbered footnotes are in universe, lettered roman numeral footnotes (because this board can't tell the difference between B and Bold) are explanations on why I would have thought these developments plausible (keeping in mind I don't remember exactly why I would have come to these conclusions).

2001-2009: George W. Bush/Dick Cheney (Republican)
2000 def: Al Gore/Joe Lieberman (Democrat)
2004 def: John Kerry/John Edwards (Democrat)

2009-2013: John McCain/Rudy Giuliani (Republican) [1]
2008 def: Hillary Clinton/Bill Richardson (Democrat)

2013-2021: Mark Warner/Barack Obama (Democrat) [2]
2012 def: John McCain/Rudy Giuliani (Republican)
2016 def: Mark Sanford/Jim Thune (Republican) [3]

[1] Yeah, no way is someone as controversial and disliked as Hillary going to beat McCain. I mean, trying to ban video games?! This isn't the 1950s. And McCain will have America's favorite mayor backing him, so there's that. Honestly her chances were shot ever since Bill made that joke about her becoming president on SNL. {I}

[2] So after losing twice with Northeast elites, the Democrats are likely to go back to that tried and true well that's gained them every presidential victory they've had since 1964, and nominate a Southern populist. I don't see the economy doing so well under McCain, and foreign credentials won't mean much since the Middle East conflicts will have likely wrapped up by this point and the Russians won't let Putin bully them around for much longer. So, Warner sweeps in and establishes a mandate. He'll probably pick that Illinois senator whose been in all the news lately - can you believe some people want him to run in 2008? I think he's too young for that, but 5 more years as a Senator and 8 as Veep will probably make him a shoo-in for the 2020 election. {II}

[3]By this point the economy will be recovering and quality of life will be rising by extension. The Republicans, somewhat rudderless after their 2012 defeat and the aging out of most of their big names, will probably try to beat President Warner at his own game by nominating a popular Southern ex-governor. That will probably keep things from being a mandate, but they'll still likely lose. {III}

{I}So with the benefit of nine years of hindsight, if Hillary carried the 2008 convention it's likely she probably would have won, although I think it would have been closer than Obama's victory. The comment abut SNL is a reference to their 2004 election show, which Bill did host. I can't find a video, but the quote went something like this:

"Everyone, I know what you're all thinking - 'I wish Bill Clinton was still president.' I feel your pain. But don't worry, in four years Hillary will running and we'll all be back in the White House!

... so, yeah, even keeping in mind that was said for the purposes of humor, the fact that they wrote off Kerry as a lost cause and treated a potential Hillary presidency as Bill's third term, means I wasn't optimistic about her chances. That said, who here can remember the time when the most notable thing about her senate career was palling around with Jack Thompson?

[Crickets]

Who here can remember Jack Thompson?

{II} So Mark Warner. He was mentioned as a potential president in the early days of the Future History subforum, and I guess I just sort of became obsessed with him running for president. I'm not sure why, but all the way up until Obama actually won I thought a Warner presidency would be inevitable. As for Obama - like Warner, I first saw him in FH, where in an early FHTL he became president ... in 2024. I thought he was too young and inexperienced to actually win in 2008 (I believe I made a few comments on this board in my early days that I saw him as a fad that would dry up in the general election).

{III} Sanford I remember being mentioned as a 2012 potential before that whole sex scandal thing. Since I obviously didn't know about the later, and since the former is voided by the fact that he wouldn't primary McCain, so he runs in 2016 and loses. I don't really have much more to say, since I tended to have aliens invade whenever a FH I was writing got too far into the future so ... uh ... watch the skies I guess?

 

[Bolt451]

And the second.

2010-2016: David Cameron (Conservative)
2010 (Coalition with Liberal Democrats) def. Gordon Brown (Labour), Nick Clegg (Liberal Democrat)
2015 (Majority) def. Ed Miliband (Labour), Nicola Sturgeon (SNP), Nick Clegg (Liberal Democrat)
2016-2023: Theresa May (Conservative)
2018 (Majority) def. Wes Streeting (Labour), Nicola Sturgeon (SNP), Paul Nuttal (UKIP), Tim Farron (Liberal Democrat)
2023-2032: Liam Fox (Conservative)
2023 (Majority) def. Stella Creasey (Labour), John Cryer (New Union), Mhairi Black (Official 'Urban' SNP), Tim Farron (Liberal Democrat), Fergus Ewing ('Highland' SNP), John Rees-Evans (Continuity UKIP)
2027 (Majority) def. Lucy Powell (Labour-Liberal Democrat-Scottish Party), John Cryer (New Union-National Party of Scotland), Felix Bungay (Independence)
2032-present: Stephen Crabb (Conservative)
2032 (Coalition with Independence) def. Lisa Nandy (New Union), Heidi Alexander ('London' Labour-Liberal Democrat), Felix Bungay (Independence), Mhairi Black (Scottish Party), Luciana Berger ('Liverpool' Labour)

Very cool list, I think 2018 might be a bot soon for Corbin or Corbynites to go but still cool

Was this just an excuse to put Bungay in a list?

 

[Yes]

BRAVO @theev

Seconded. The granular detail on independent Alaska is especially good.

 

[Uhura's Mazda]

Very cool list, I think 2018 might be a bot soon for Corbin or Corbynites to go but still cool

Was this just an excuse to put Bungay in a list?

You never need an excuse, with dear Felix.

 

[Yes]

THE TIMELINE (WHERE) THEY RAISED OL' DIXIE UP

Levon!!!!

Sen. Estes Kefauver* (D-TN)/Sen. John F. Kennedy (D-MA) 1961-63
1960 def. Vice Pres. Richard M. Nixon (R-CA)/Sen. Prescott Bush (R-CT)

Pres. John F. Kennedy (D-MA)**/Sen. Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX) 1963-66
1964 def. Sen. Barry Goldwater (R-AZ)/Norris Cotton (R-NH), Sen. Strom Thurmond (DIX-SC)/Gov. Ross Barnett (DIX-MS)

Pres. Lyndon B. Johnson (D-TX)/Sen. Philip Hart (D-MI) 1966-73
1968 def. Fmr. Vice Pres. Richard M. Nixon (R-CA)/Sen. Howard Baker (R-TN)

Gov. George Wallace (R-AL)/Sen. Paul Fannin (R-AZ) 1973-77
1972 def. Vice Pres. Philip Hart (D-MI)/Gov. John L. McKeithen (D-LA)

Gov. Reubin O'D. Askew (D-FL)/Sen. Edmund Muskie (D-MA) 1977-85
1976 def. Vice Pres. Paul Fannin (R-AZ)/Gov. James "Jim" Rhodes (R-OH)
1980 def. Fmr. Gov. Ronald W. Reagan (R-CA)/Sen. Donald Rumsfeld (R-IL)

Gov. William P. Clements (R-TX)/Gov. Carroll Campbell (R-SC) 1985-93
1984 def. Sen. Walter Mondale (D-MN)/Fmr. Gov. Hugh Carey (D-NY)
1988 def. Gov. Kevin White (D-MA)/Sen. James Sasser (D-TN)

Vice Pres. Carroll Campbell (R-SC)/Sen. Jack Kemp (R-NY) 1993-97
1992 def. Gov. Raymond "Ray" Mabus (D-MS)/Sen. John Glenn (D-OH)

Sen. Albert Gore Jr. (D-TN)/Sen. William "Bill" Bradley (D-NJ) 1997-2005
1996 def. Pres. Carroll Campbell (R-SC)/Vice Pres. Jack Kemp (R-NY)
2000 def. Fmr. Vice Pres. Jack Kemp (R-NY)/Gov. Haley Barbour (R-MS)

Gov. John E. "Jeb" Bush (R-FL)/Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) 2005-09
2004 def. Vice Pres. William "Bill" Bradley (D-NJ)/Sen. Hillary Rodham (D-MA)

Sen. Elizabeth Anania (D-VA)/Fmr. Gov. Harvey Gantt (D-NC) 2009-17
2008 def. Pres. John E. "Jeb" Bush (R-FL)/Vice Pres. John McCain (R-AZ)
2012 def. Sen. John Thune (R-SD)/Gov. Mark Sanford (R-SC)

Gov. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA)/Gov. Antonio Villaraigosa (D-CA) 2017-present
2016 def. Sen. Ann Coulter (R-MI)/Sen. Jefferson "Jeff" Sessions (R-AL)

*= Died of natural causes
**= Assasinated by Byron de la Beckwith in a blow against the eventual Civil Rights Act of 1966, pushed ahead by Kennedy's martyrdom.

After seeing Thurmond's example (Dixiecrat to Republican ITTL, more of a transitional phase for TTL's 1960s) Wallace decided there was a whole, underdeveloped political party in Alabama he could turn into his permanent machine. He avoided presidential impeachment on charges of both corruption and illegal activities to cover up and disrupt investigations into that corruption by agreeing not to run for a second term.

Let Google tell you what path Senator Anania didn't take.

Warren was born and raised in Oklahoma (and Fannin, here as IOTL both a governor and senator from Arizona, was born and raised in Kentucky.)

Also, yes, after one of its many civil wars (see wot I did there) it is metal how Neo-Confederate the GOP went in 2016.

 

[Cevolian]

AGENT ORANGE:
The flight of Donald J Trump
​

2017-2019: Donald Trump/Mike Pence (Republican)
2016: Def - Hillary Clinton/Tim Kaine (Democratic)
2019-2019: Mike Pence/Hillary Clinton (Republican/Democratic)
2019-2019: Hillary Clinton/vacant (Democratic)
2019-2021: Colin Powell/Joe Biden (Independent/Democratic/Libertarian --- National Union)
2021-202?: Joe Biden/Gary Johnson (Democratic/Libertarian -- National Union)
2020: Def - Jeb Bush/Ted Cruz (Patriot), Bernie Sanders/Elizabeth Warren (Progressive), Austin Peterson/John McAffee ("True" Libertarian)


(Yes this is unrealistic, it's deliberately so to mirror something else...)

Donald Trump's radical Presidency had caused a stir, particularly due to his unconventional relationship with Russia. When, on a hot summer's night in 2019, he fled the White House for a Maryland coastal town and then tried to bard a Russian Submarine, his true nature as a Russian Spy was revealed. The nation was thrown into chaos, and with much of the Republican Congressional leadership being arrested, Mike Pence was forced to appoint Hillary Clinton as his Vice President in return for the support of house Democrats, only for Pence himself to then be arrested and narrowly impeached. Clinton's Presidency was a disaster, and she quickly stepped down after appointing Colin Powell, the popular independent general, as her Vice President. Powell's National Union government allowed the country to slowly move back to stability, with the remainders of the Republican Party quickly emerging as the Patriots and the radical wing of the Democratic Party splitting off as the Prgressive Party and the Libertarians splitting over Gary Johnson's refusal to leave the National Union ticket. Even Trump's assassination in DC has not slowed the electoral process and Vice President Biden, who was mysteriously seen leaving the area of the assassination, is widely expected to win the Presidency...

 

[Yes]

AGENT ORANGE:
The flight of Donald J Trump
​

2017-2019: Donald Trump/Mike Pence (Republican)
2016: Def - Hillary Clinton/Tim Kaine (Democratic)
2019-2019: Mike Pence/Hillary Clinton (Republican/Democratic)
2019-2019: Hillary Clinton/vacant (Democratic)
2019-2021: Colin Powell/Joe Biden (Independent/Democratic/Libertarian --- National Union)
2021-202?: Joe Biden/Gary Johnson (Democratic/Libertarian -- National Union)
2020: Def - Jeb Bush/Ted Cruz (Patriot), Bernie Sanders/Elizabeth Warren (Progressive), Austin Peterson/John McAffee ("True" Libertarian)


(Yes this is unrealistic, it's deliberately so to mirror something else...)

Donald Trump's radical Presidency had caused a stir, particularly due to his unconventional relationship with Russia. When, on a hot summer's night in 2019, he fled the White House for a Maryland coastal town and then tried to bard a Russian Submarine, his true nature as a Russian Spy was revealed. The nation was thrown into chaos, and with much of the Republican Congressional leadership being arrested, Mike Pence was forced to appoint Hillary Clinton as his Vice President in return for the support of house Democrats, only for Pence himself to then be arrested and narrowly impeached. Clinton's Presidency was a disaster, and she quickly stepped down after appointing Colin Powell, the popular independent general, as her Vice President. Powell's National Union government allowed the country to slowly move back to stability, with the remainders of the Republican Party quickly emerging as the Patriots and the radical wing of the Democratic Party splitting off as the Prgressive Party and the Libertarians splitting over Gary Johnson's refusal to leave the National Union ticket. Even Trump's assassination in DC has not slowed the electoral process and Vice President Biden, who was mysteriously seen leaving the area of the assassination, is widely expected to win the Presidency...

That was a delightfully hot mess of a tribute. I sincerely hope Lord Roem and Meadow are listening somewhere. And the title is actually perfect.

 

[Cevolian]

That was a delightfully hot mess of a tribute. I sincerely hope Lord Roem and Meadow are listening somewhere. And the title is actually perfect.

Thanks Thought of it a while ago and thought it'd be a really fun little write

Aha and one can only dream they'll notice the work of such a lowly mortal

 

[theev]

Operation Christian Freedom

Explanation: There's a conspiracy that Thomas Harens was actually a stalking horse for John Kerry in the 2004 election in an attempt to sabotage George Bush in Minnesota. Let's assume that this was legitimate and that Kerry takes it up to 11.

2001-2005: George W. Bush/Dick Cheney (Republican)
2000: Al Gore/Joe Liebermann (Democratic) , Ralph Nader/Winona LaDuke (Green)
2005-2008: John Kerry/John Edwards (Democratic)
2004: George W. Bush/Dick Cheney (Republican) , Thomas Harens/Virgil Goode (Christian Freedom)
2008-2009: John Kerry/Vacant (Democratic)
2009-2013: John Kerry/Barack Obama (Democratic)
2008: Mitt Romney/Lindsey Graham (Republican) , Virgil Goode/Duncan Hunter (Christian Freedom)
2013-0000: Barack Obama/Hillary Clinton (Democratic)
2012: Chris Christie/Kelly Ayotte (Republican) , Tom Tancredo/Michelle Bachmann (Christian Freedom)
2016: Ted Cruz/Phil Bryant (Christian Freedom) , Jeb Bush/Susan Collins (Republican)

 

[Yes]

Operation Christian Freedom

Explanation: There's a conspiracy that Thomas Harens was actually a stalking horse for John Kerry in the 2004 election in an attempt to sabotage George Bush in Minnesota. Let's assume that this was legitimate and that Kerry takes it up to 11.

2001-2005: George W. Bush/Dick Cheney (Republican)
2000: Al Gore/Joe Liebermann (Democratic) , Ralph Nader/Winona LaDuke (Green)
2005-2008: John Kerry/John Edwards (Democratic)
2004: George W. Bush/Dick Cheney (Republican) , Thomas Harens/Virgil Goode (Christian Freedom)
2008-2009: John Kerry/Vacant (Democratic)
2009-2013: John Kerry/Barack Obama (Democratic)
2008: Mitt Romney/Lindsey Graham (Republican) , Virgil Goode/Duncan Hunter (Christian Freedom)
2013-0000: Barack Obama/Hillary Clinton (Democratic)
2012: Chris Christie/Kelly Ayotte (Republican) , Tom Tancredo/Michelle Bachmann (Christian Freedom)
2016: Ted Cruz/Phil Bryant (Christian Freedom) , Jeb Bush/Susan Collins (Republican)

I like 1) that Obama pretty directly pulls Kerry's chestnuts out of the fire in '08 after John Edwards is... himself, and 2) the Christian Freedom split. I think there might be friction in the Paul family over whether to ride that train (e.g. Crazy Uncle Liberty says there's money to be made, Rand says no all the cool GOP kids like me.)

 

[theev]

I like 1) that Obama pretty directly pulls Kerry's chestnuts out of the fire in '08 after John Edwards is... himself, and 2) the Christian Freedom split. I think there might be friction in the Paul family over whether to ride that train (e.g. Crazy Uncle Liberty says there's money to be made, Rand says no all the cool GOP kids like me.)

I'm glad you liked it! I was justthisclose to making Ron Paul the Christian Freedom 2012 nominee.

 

[Yes]

I was justthisclose to making Ron Paul the Christian Freedom 2012 nominee.

The struggle is real

 

[theev]

The struggle is real

It really was.

But let's say Ron Paul was a failed candidate for the 2012 Christian Freedom nomination while Rand is the main resident Libertarian in the GOP.

 

[Oppo]

It really was.

But let's say Ron Paul was a failed candidate for the 2012 Christian Freedom nomination while Rand is the main resident Libertarian in the GOP.

Interesting.

 

[AidanM]

Worst Case Scenario​

January 20, 2017: Paul Ryan (Acting President)/Vacant*
January 20, 2017-February 11, 2017: Orin Hatch (Acting President)/Vacant*
February 11, 2017-March 1, 2017: Tim Kaine (Acting President)/Vacant**
March 1, 2017-December 31, 2017: Evan McMullin/Tim Kaine***
December 31, 2017-January 15, 2018: Tim Kaine/Vacant****
January 15, 2018: Tim Kaine/Hillary Clinton*****
January 15, 2018-January 17, 2018: Hillary Clinton/Vacant
January 17, 2018-November 19, 2019: Hillary Clinton/Tim Kaine******
November 19, 2019-November 31, 2019: Tim Kaine/Vacant*******
November 31, 2019: Kevin McCarthy/Vacant********
November 31, 2019-January 20, 2019: Kevin McCarthy/Duncan Hunter*********

* After Evan McMullin won Utah in the 2016 presidential election, no candidate managed to receive 270 electoral votes, so the election went to the House of Representatives to pick the President and the Senate to pick the President. Both the Senate and the House failed to pick anyone by January 20, so Paul Ryan was inaugurated as Acting President. A furious Trump supporter assassinated Paul Ryan just moments after he took the oath of office. Orin Hatch, who was next in line, became the next Acting President.
** On February 11, the Senate decided on Tim Kaine to become Vice President. He replaced Orin Hatch and became the third Acting President in three weeks.
*** On March 1, the House of Representatives, who had been deadlocked for over a month, finally managed to pick a candidate. Though the Republicans controlled the majority of state legislatures, they had decided that Donald Trump was too dangerous for the presidency, and chose Evan McMullin, despite him only winning 6 electoral votes in 1 state. Evan McMullin is inaugurated as the 45th President of the United States, with Tim Kaine as his Vice President.
**** Evan McMullin was found dead in his bed on the morning of New Years Eve. The autopsy reported his cause of death as a brain aneurysm. Tim Kaine is inaugurated as the 46th President.
***** Tim Kaine nominated Hillary Clinton to replace the vacancy in the vice presidency. This caused an outcry from Republicans, but the Democrats had the majority in the Senate and she was confirmed. Two hours later, Tim Kaine resigned, and Hillary Clinton became the 47th President of the United States.
****** Hillary Clinton nominated Former President Tim Kaine to become Vice President, and he was confirmed by the Senate. Republicans demand impeachment, but have no legal basis.
******* After incriminating evidence regarding her e-mails resurfaced, Hillary Clinton was forced to resign in order to avoid impeachment. Tim Kaine became the 48th President of the United States, and the second person to serve two non-consecutive "terms".
******** Tim Kaine himself was forced to resign after more e-mails resurfaced, showing that he had knowledge of Hillary Clinton's wrongdoings.
********* As Kaine had yet to select a Vice President, the new Speaker of the House of Representatives, Kevin McCarthy, ascended to the presidency and became the 49th President of the United States.
********** The Senate confirms Duncan Hunter as Vice President.