Between 6 teams and handling the business end of things, Chris and Tim are in a less involved role and yes they will retire around the same time as OTL.So I did notice it that neither Chris or Tim were in either team, that means they soon will be retiring as OTL? Wonder who would be the new manager them
Another part of getting the dev teams to cooperate and be more friendly is so there's hopefully no friction when they do choose a new manager.