WI: The Enterprise completes its five year mission (Star Trek survives for 5 seasons)

[dsp19]

First, great update second Ally Macleod and Brian Clough at the same World Cup at the same time and both thinking they'll win it oh that's gonna be "interesting"

What if Clough leads England to World Cup glory ITTL? Nobody ever thought he'd win the league with small club Derby County vs. Liverpool or medium-sized club Nottingham Forest against Liverpool IRL. So Clough could theoretically take an unfancied England team to great heights if allowed to. More Cloughie in a story is always interesting.

For those of you who don't know the reference, Brian Clough was a famous English football/soccer manager in the 1970s and 1980s, considered one of the best coaches of his era. He wanted to manage the English national team but never got the chance. Clough in Argentina could be quite interesting too, considering the fact that he was a noted left winger and Argentina in 1978 was a right-wing dictatorship...

 

[HesitatedEye]

What if Clough leads England to World Cup glory ITTL? Nobody ever thought he'd win the league with small club Derby County vs. Liverpool or medium-sized club Nottingham Forest against Liverpool IRL. So Clough could theoretically take an unfancied England team to great heights if allowed to. More Cloughie in a story is always interesting.

For those of you who don't know the reference, Brian Clough was a famous English football/soccer manager in the 1970s and 1980s, considered one of the best coaches of his era. He wanted to manage the English national team but never got the chance. Clough in Argentina could be quite interesting too, considering the fact that he was a noted left winger and Argentina in 1978 was a right-wing dictatorship...

Oh god, I'm picturing the Falklands now with the British threatening to send Cloughie back to finish the job he started in 78.

 

[Ogrebear]

Callaghan was Leader in 1979 , Foot took over in 1980 after the election defeat. He beat out Denis Healey. Kinnock was just shadow education spokesman. He gained his reputation by his condemnations of how Thatcher handled the Falklands War ( would not have been fought if she had not made errors etc ) so had no chance of election to the leadership before 1983.

You are correct. This is why one should never post based off memory.

Still Healey winning in 80 does mean no 'suicide note' and probably no SDP. A more centrist Labour, no SDP, and an no Falklands could see Thatcher gone in 83 given the economy and her unpopularity.

An 83 election with the OTL Falklands but a Healey Labour Party probably means less seats lost for Labour, but still a defeat. The 1987 elections are Labour's to win. With Healey's strong European connections (both sides of the iron curtain) I could see a 1987- 1992 Labour gov. being invovled heavily in Europe and the end of the Cold War, and being re-elected in 1992.

Why does Thatcher matter for a pop culture timeline? Well Mrs. T was a exceptionally divisive figure in UK politics- even Doctor Who produced a serial parodying her. 2000AD, Crisis, and tons of independents all published stories critical of her. Mrs T's government effects people like Alan Moore, Alan Davis, Warren Ellis, Neil Gaimen, Terry Pratchett etc and their works. On TV there is an effect on the BBC Budget (see what happened with Who), plus shows like Young Ones, Comic Strip Presents, Blackadder, and celebs like Ben Elton are effected a lot by Thatcher. Plus of course the Mrs T.- Reagan relationship did seem to set the tone of the period.

Sure, this is not a politics focused timeline, but I do like to encourage our Author to fly the probabilities just to see where pop culture goes if some big things came out different.

 

[dsp19]

You are correct. This is why one should never post based off memory.

Still Healey winning in 80 does mean no 'suicide note' and probably no SDP. A more centrist Labour, no SDP, and an no Falklands could see Thatcher gone in 83 given the economy and her unpopularity.

An 83 election with the OTL Falklands but a Healey Labour Party probably means less seats lost for Labour, but still a defeat. The 1987 elections are Labour's to win. With Healey's strong European connections (both sides of the iron curtain) I could see a 1987- 1992 Labour gov. being invovled heavily in Europe and the end of the Cold War, and being re-elected in 1992.

Why does Thatcher matter for a pop culture timeline? Well Mrs. T was a exceptionally divisive figure in UK politics- even Doctor Who produced a serial parodying her. 2000AD, Crisis, and tons of independents all published stories critical of her. Mrs T's government effects people like Alan Moore, Alan Davis, Warren Ellis, Neil Gaimen, Terry Pratchett etc and their works. On TV there is an effect on the BBC Budget (see what happened with Who), plus shows like Young Ones, Comic Strip Presents, Blackadder, and celebs like Ben Elton are effected a lot by Thatcher. Plus of course the Mrs T.- Reagan relationship did seem to set the tone of the period.

Sure, this is not a politics focused timeline, but I do like to encourage our Author to fly the probabilities just to see where pop culture goes if some big things came out different.

There's a lot of American politics in my timeline but I'm not as well versed on British politics. It's actually easier to create a scenario where Reagan loses an election than Thatcher, since IRL Reagan lost an election (the 1976 Republican primary), and was extremely vulnerable at times during his first term (1982, parts of 1983). I think the earliest Labour can win is 1987. They definitely could have won in 1992 against John Major because that election was close IRL.

You have to butterfly away the Falklands war to give Labour a shot anytime before 1987, plus you can't have Benn anywhere near leadership

 

[dsp19]

In this update, NATO reinforces the West German frontier, Queen becomes the most popular band in the world, just like IRL after they release News of the World a couple of weeks before OTL, the Yankees win the 1977 World Series after rallying from a 3 games to 2 deficit against the Dodgers, and a Starlog entry comparing Star Wars to Star Trek.


NATO DEPLOYS 150,000 SOLDIERS TO WEST GERMANY

October 6, 1977

Following the partial Soviet withdrawal from Czechoslovakia, NATO, led by the United States, has added an extra 150,000 soldiers to their forward bases in West Germany. The United States deployed 90,000 men from the 82nd and 101st Airborne Divisions and the 10th Mountain Division based in New York. The UK added 25,000 troops, while France and Italy combined to contribute another 25,000 personnel. It is believed that the West German Bundeswehr will add between 50,000 to 75,000 troops in the next six months. Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger, when discussing NATO's defense posture, stated that "military exercises on the German frontier and in Bavaria will begin in six to eight months. We intend to show Mr. Andropov in Moscow that we are serious about his plans for leaving Czechoslovakia." President Reagan planned an increase in American defense expenditures, which passed Congress and allowed the Pentagon to increase the size of the standing army by 100,000 over the next year. Another increase of 100,000 is on tap for next year's budget, which is likely to be approved by Congress. "There is near unanimous approval in Congress to increase the size of the military due to Soviet behavior in Europe, and it is a necessity," Weinberger said. Additionally, plans have been placed in motion to start building the new American tank, the M1 Abrams, by the end of the year. "We must remain ahead of the curve in our mobile infantry and tanker technology," Weinberger told the Post.


QUEEN RELEASES NEWS OF THE WORLD: IMMEDIATELY TOP OF THE CHARTS

October 15, 1977

Queen, with frontman Freddie Mercury, may have outdone themselves yet again with perhaps the greatest rock album in history. News of the World, with two instant fan favorites, "We Will Rock You" and "We are the Champions," hit the shelves this week and instantly sold 150,000 copies. Music industry insiders believe that News of the World could become the highest selling rock album of all time. "Queen, with Freddie, Brian May, Roger Taylor, and John Deacon, is as popular in the 1970s as the Beatles were in the 1960s," David Geffen, chairman of Elektra, Queen's label in the United States, told Billboard. "Freddie Mercury is the new Paul McCartney and John Lennon wrapped into one person. I have never seen a musical genius like him." Paul McCartney declared Queen "a unique group" and a worthy successor to the Beatles. "Queen has captured the music fan the same way we did when we were together, and the same way Elvis Presley did 20 years ago," McCartney said. "Bohemian Rhapsody is five or six songs smashed into one, and it's no wonder they're on top of the music world right now. As long as Freddie is making music, they'll remain on top."

YANKEES RALLY FROM DEFICIT TO WIN WORLD SERIES

October 20, 1977

The Yankees, led by manager Billy Martin and slugger Reggie Jackson, after finding matters easier in the American League Championship series against the upstart Chicago White Sox, were tested severely by Tommy Lasorda and his Los Angeles Dodgers. After losing Game One in extra innings, 5-4, and Game Two at home, 6-1, the Yankees were facing oblivion in Los Angeles, having to win two out of three games in the City of Angels just to return the series to New York. They were able to accomplish that, winning Game Three 5-3, and Game Four 4-2, behind excellent pitching performances from Mike Torrez and lefty ace Ron Guidry. However, they were blown out 10-4 in Game Five, needing to win the last two games of the series at Yankee Stadium to bring the franchise its 21st championship. "We knew the pressure. Both games were like a Game Seven, and I had to be at my best," Reggie Jackson said. In Game Six, Reggie hit three home runs to lead the Yankees to an 8-4 win, tying the series. In Game Seven, Reggie Jackson and Thurman Munson each homered to give the Yankees an early 2-0 lead in the first inning, which they never relinquished. Guidry was almost unhittable, throwing a four hit shutout, striking out 12, as the Yankees only needed those two runs. "I knew my slider was good in the bullpen during warmups," Guidry said. "It was dropping a lot. It looked like a strike every time I threw it, and the Dodgers hitters swung over it a lot." Guidry was only in trouble once, in the seventh inning, when the Dodgers loaded the bases with one out. However, he struck out Steve Garvey on a devastating slider and Dusty Baker on a high fastball to roars from the Yankee Stadium crowd. "That little lefty is king of the world tonight," Martin said. "He willed us to the World Series."


STAR WARS IS GREAT, BUT STAR TREK IS OUR FIRST LOVE

Starlog, October 1977

We love the adventure of Luke Skywalker, Princess Leia, Obi-Wan Kenobi, Han Solo, Chewbacca, Threepio, Artoo, and the power of the Force. It is captivating and exhilarating, and George Lucas has created a fantastic space opera. However, we can't wait for the Star Trek movie. Star Wars was written for kids. It's appealing to youngsters because there are space wizards with magic, and even Darth Vader is a space wizard with magic powers (he just uses them for evil). Star Trek is very different though. Aside from Spock, who has the power to knock out someone with a pinch of the neck and the ability to mind meld, nobody on the Enterprise has superpowers. They always have to think their way out of the situation. And that's why I feel that Gene Roddenberry is going to come up with something magical, in its own way, for that movie next year. Star Trek's politics are also an allegory for ours. The Klingons and Romulans are the Warsaw Pact and China, which is relatable to audiences everywhere. Roddenberry has promised us a duel with the Klingons, and we hope he creates the best space battle ever seen in cinema. He's got a tall order though: Star Wars had one heck of a dogfight over the Death Star.


NOTE: Queen released News of the World on October 28, 1977.
NOTE: The Yankees defeated the Dodgers in six games in the 1977 World Series. The only results that differ from RL are game 1, which the Yankees won 4-3, and TTL's Game 7. In 1977, the Yankees defeated the Kansas City Royals in the American League Championship Series.
NOTE: NATO built up its defense posture in Western Europe with more troops in Reagan's first term IRL, leading to Able Archer 83.

 

[Ogrebear]

Go Queen! News of the World is indeed a great album. Wonder if they could all be tempted into a McCartney- Queen collaboration? Or indeed a joint Wings- Queen tour?

Lets hope Freddie lives a lot, lot longer ITTL!

Well my hype for this timeline's Motion Picture is growing and I have some knowledge of what its like already!

Wonder if there is a route for folk to get out of Czechoslovakia?

Is Regan getting briefs on the situation in Iran yet? Is there anything the Americans can do to ensure the Revolution does not happen, or the result ends up with a friendlier country/regime?

 

[HesitatedEye]

Great update but small nitpick it's John Deacon, not Beacon.

 

[dsp19]

Great update but small nitpick it's John Deacon, not Beacon.

Yeah, had to go back in there and correct that

 

[dsp19]

Go Queen! News of the World is indeed a great album. Wonder if they could all be tempted into a McCartney- Queen collaboration? Or indeed a joint Wings- Queen tour?

Lets hope Freddie lives a lot, lot longer ITTL!

Well my hype for this timeline's Motion Picture is growing and I have some knowledge of what its like already!

Wonder if there is a route for folk to get out of Czechoslovakia?

Is Regan getting briefs on the situation in Iran yet? Is there anything the Americans can do to ensure the Revolution does not happen, or the result ends up with a friendlier country/regime?

In Czechoslovakia, there are mountain passes to West Germany where some people can escape to the West.

At this point, demonstrations against the Shah of Iran began (October 1977), so Reagan has to figure out how to defuse them, or the same thing will happen ITTL with the Shah being kicked out for the Ayatollah Khomeini

We're also setting up for an Able Archer 78 ITTL with the brand new Abrams tanks, which were not made until 1980 IRL.

 

[farmerted555]

God, why does he look sad? He's already destroyed mankind, what else could he want?!

 

[marathag]

NOTE: NATO built up its defense posture in Western Europe with more troops in Reagan's first term IRL, leading to Able Archer 83.

This one was a lot more dangerous than the Soviet Error

On this day in 1979[November 9th], operators at the U.S. missile warning center were shocked to see their displays light up with the ultimate horror: a full-scale Soviet nuclear attack bearing down on the United States. Unlike previous false warnings the operators had experienced, there was no mistaking the signatures of an all-out nuclear attack designed to destroy nuclear command centers, U.S. nuclear-armed bombers, and land-based missiles.

This did not appear to be a local glitch of some kind, since the warning was showing up at NORAD (North American Aerospace Defense) Headquarters in Colorado, the Strategic Air Command Center, the Pentagon National Military Command Center, and the Alternate National Military Command Center. In response, missile crews were put on heightened alert and nuclear bomber crews were sent to their planes. The U.S. air-defense system was put on alert and at least 10 fighter-interceptor planes were launched. Even President Carter’s airborne command post took off (but without the president).

U.S. officers had practiced responding to just this kind of attack, but never expected to see it actually happen…

A Nuclear False Alarm that Looked Exactly Like the Real Thing

On this day in 1979, operators at the U.S. missile warning center were shocked to see their displays light up with the ultimate horror: a full-scale Soviet nuclear attack bearing down on the United States. Unlike previous false warnings the operators had experienced, there was no mistaking the sign

blog.ucsusa.org

As he recounted it to me, Brzezinski was awakened at three in the morning by [military assistant William] Odom, who told him that some 250 Soviet missiles had been launched against the United States. Brzezinski knew that the President's decision time to order retaliation was from three to seven minutes. Thus he told Odom he would stand by for a further call to confirm Soviet launch and the intended targets before calling the President. Brzezinski was convinced we had to hit back and told Odom to confirm that the Strategic Air Command was launching its planes. When Odom called back, he reported that 2,200 missiles had been launched?it was an all-out attack. One minute before Brzezinski intended to call the President, Odom called a third time to say that other warning systems were not reporting Soviet launches. Sitting alone in the middle of the night, Brzezinski had not awakened his wife, reckoning that everyone would be dead in half an hour. It had been a false alarm. Someone had mistakenly put military exercise tapes into the computer system." -- Robert M. Gates. From the Shadows: The Ultimate Insider's Story of Five Presidents and How they Won the Cold War (New York: Simon & Schuster, 1996),114.

The series of alarming incidents and telephone phone calls recounted by former NSC staffer (and later CIA director and future Secretary of Defense) Robert Gates took place in the middle of the night on 9 November 1979. Because of the potentially grave implications of the event, the episode quickly leaked to the media, with the Washington Post and The New York Times printing stories on what happened. According to press reports, based on Pentagon briefings, a NORAD staffer caused the mistake by mistakenly loading a training/exercise tape into a computer, which simulated an "attack into the live warning system." This was a distortion because it was not a matter of a "wrong tape," but software simulating a Soviet missile attack then testing NORAD's 427M computers "was inexplicably transferred into the regular warning display" at the Command's headquarters. Indeed, NORAD's Commander-in-chief later acknowledged that the "precise mode of failure could not be replicated."[4]

The information on the display simultaneously appeared on screens at SAC headquarters and the National Military Command Center (NMCC), which quickly led to defensive actions: NORAD alerted interceptor forces and 10 fighters were immediately launched. Moreover, the National Emergency Airborne Command Post (NEACP), used so the president could control U.S. forces during a nuclear war, was launched from Andrews Air Force Base, although without the president or secretary of defense.

Some of this information did not reach the public for months, but at least one reporter received misleading information about how high the alert went. According to the New York Times' sources, the warning was "deemed insufficiently urgent to warrant notifying top Government or military officials." Apparently no one wanted to tell reporters (and further scare the public) that the phone call went to President's Carter's national security adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski.

The 3 A.M. Phone Call: False Missile Attack Warning Incidents, 1979-1980

The 3 A.M. Phone Call: False Missile Attack Warning Incidents, 1979-1980

nsarchive2.gwu.edu

 

[HesitatedEye]

God, why does he look sad? He's already destroyed mankind, what else could he want?!

To quote Freddie "He probably wants to dance Darling"

 

[dsp19]

To quote Freddie "He probably wants to dance Darling"

Yup, this timeline cannot be complete without at least one helping of Queen. Amazingly, this album got mixed reviews when it first came out and didn't hit #1 in either the US or UK

 

[Unknown]

Maybe (idea shamelessly lifted from this post: https://www.alternatehistory.com/fo...-at-disney-1980.489210/page-221#post-21778244) Freddie has a false positive HIV test, and that causes him to change his sexual behavior and be more careful ITTL...

A Democratic administration will handle the AIDS virus better than Reagan did IOTL, depending on who is president...

Interestingly enough, Margaret Thatcher, when she was PM, authorized a PSA campaign against AIDS when it broke out in Britain (called "Don't Die of Ignorance") which helped reduce AIDS (and other sexually transmitted diseases) transmission in Britain (it helped that she had been a scientist and understood the risks--keep in mind that the Tories of the 1980s were not fond of LGBT people in Britain, as this was the era that the infamous Section 28 was passed in Britain (1)).

Here's one of the ads from YouTube (it was shown in the UK miniseries It's A Sin):

(1) David Cameron, when he became Conservative leader, apologized for Section 28 (which had been repealed in 2003) and presided over the legalization of gay marriage in Britain in 2013 when he was PM...

 

[dsp19]

I'll put the last two months of 1977 together in one update. In November 1977, Close Encounters of the Third Kind premieres, and in December 1977, the album for Saturday Night Fever is released. In this update, William Shatner gets the role of Adama in Battlestar Galactica, where Gene Coon is bringing back the old Star Trek writers to help Glen Larson. England under Brian Clough qualifies for the World Cup, vanquishing Italy. President Reagan is not a fan of disco, the Americans believe that the Soviet Union is stoking protests in Iran, and a hint from Starlog about TMP.


SHATNER TO STAR IN LARSON'S GALACTICA SPACE SERIES

November 12, 1977

William Shatner is going to be the star of another television series. Shatner has signed on to play Commander Adama, a starship commander, in Glen Larson's new series, Battlestar Galactica. Larson plans to place a movie into production before premiering the television series on ABC next September. Shatner was recommended for the role by former Star Trek producer Gene Coon, who had a friendly relationship with the Enterprise captain. Regarding the role,' Shatner said, "It's very different from Captain Kirk. I'm the commander of the only battleship left in the human fleet in Glen Larson's and Gene Coon's universe." Larson was rumored to have wanted an older actor like Lorne Greene, the star of Bonanza, for the Adama role, but Coon advised that Shatner would be a better fit because he is more popular among science fiction fans and his presence would lend instant credibility to the series. "Shatner is a natural at playing commanding figures," Coon told Variety. "He is a perfect fit. He controls the screen in virtually every scene he is in, and none of the characters, or the actors, will dispute anything he says due to his success." Production on Battlestar Galactica is scheduled to begin next week, with a very quick turnaround for the movie, which is to be released in theaters next summer.


ENGLAND DEFEATS ITALY 2-0 AT WEMBLEY: KEEGAN AND BROOKING THE HEROES

November 17, 1977

Brian Clough punched his fist in the air triumphantly at full time. England had done the mission impossible, qualifying out of a World Cup group with Italy in it, by defeating the formidable Italians 2-0 in front of nearly 100,000 jubilant fans at Wembley. Kevin Keegan, England's hero throughout qualifying who recently left Liverpool for Hamburg, opened the scoring in the 37th minute with a mazing run through the normally air-tight Italian defense. Near halftime, Keegan was elbowed in the face by Italian defender Marco Tardelli, who was sent off after vociferous complaints by Clough. In the second half, Trevor Brooking scored off a neat move assisted by Keegan and started by young Chelsea midfielder Ray Wilkins. The West Ham talisman made no mistake, poking in from six yards out. After the match, Clough reminded the Italians of their defeat in World War II. "We rolled through Rome in 1944 with our tanks, and we rolled through Italy tonight with our brilliant football," Clough said. Reaction in Rome was less than jubilant, to say the least. The Italian national team bus was pelted with rocks, eggs and vegetables after their failure to qualify for the World Cup. "It is a national humiliation for Italy, and the greatest insult was that it came at the hands of England," said Brian Moore, the BBC commentator reporting on the situation.


REAGAN PREFERS COUNTRY MUSIC, BLUES OVER DISCO; IS SCIENCE FICTION FAN

November 21, 1977

President Reagan, after a tumultuous start to his term, finally opened up to the Washington Post about his favorite movies and music. Reagan is a big fan of both Star Trek and Star Wars, unlike the last Republican president, Richard Nixon. "Star Wars is escapism, and the one realistic part about that movie is the fact that we can eventually design defense platforms in space against the Soviets. It was a clear good versus evil movie, which is similar to what we are facing in the world today. Star Trek has that cowboy commander in Captain Kirk, who I always believed represented America in space." When asked about his favorite musical choices, the President was not a fan of disco, the craze sweeping the nation in nightclubs and bars. "Disco seems a little too hedonistic to me," Reagan said. "I see these sweaty men and women, barely clothed in nightclubs at two in the morning, with party drugs laid out on the table, and I wonder whether America has what it takes to be the leader of the free world in the future. My generation never acted like that. I will propose legislation that further criminalizes these party drugs like heroin and crack cocaine." Reagan was a fan of blues music and country music. "Give me a Hank Williams album or a Duke Ellington jazz record any day of the week," the President said. "I like to make decisions over my favorite music, because it helps focus my mind. Nancy, my wife, suggested that when I was governor of California, and she has made my life so much simpler with that one basic change."


WEINBERGER: IRAN PROTESTS FUELED BY SOVIETS

December 6, 1977

Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger declared the Iran protests a tool of Soviet propaganda, and reiterated American support for Shah Reza Pahlavi, the Iranian leader currently angering many religious Shi'ite Muslims with his secular policies. "The Shah is one of our most important allies in the Middle East, and a bulwark against Soviet aggression both there and in Central Asia," Weinberger said. "We have evidence that Soviet KGB agents have infiltrated the religious protesters on college campuses in Tehran and will bring this to the attention of the United Nations as more illegal behavior by the rogue Andropov regime in Moscow." Protests started in October 1977, after the mysterious death of the son of Iran's leading cleric, Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini. American intelligence sources believe that the Iraqi government killed him, but the protesters blamed the Shah, due to a feud between him and Khomeini. The Soviets denied involvement. In a statement from the TASS news agency, the Soviet government said that "the protests in Iran are an internal issue, with the brave people of Iran rising up to denounce and overthrow the American backed dictator and return Iran to a government ruled by its people."


NICHELLE NICHOLS AND DIAHANN CARROLL PLANNING RELEASE OF A MUSIC SINGLE RELATED TO STAR TREK MOVIE?

Starlog, December 1977

Rumor has it that Nichelle Nichols and Diahann Carroll consulted with the Emotions singers and asked them whether they could produce a cover of their song Best of My Love. We wonder why Nichelle and Diahann are doing this. We know that Carroll was on set for a short time when the Star Trek movie was filmed, and that she and Nichelle are close friends. Is Best of My Love going to be sung in the movie? If so, it's a strange addition, because Gene Roddenberry is promising us a conflict with the Klingons. Perhaps there is a joyous scene in the movie where they are singing a duet? We know that Best of My Love was on Soul Train and is a pretty popular song for weddings recently. Maybe there is a wedding scene? Is Uhura getting married? Well, I guess we'll have to watch the movie next year to find out!

 

[Ogrebear]

Hopefully the Shah can be persuaded towards reform to address the democratic concerns in his country sooner rather than later. No Khomeni will make a difference certainly.

Shatner as Adama will be interesting- I wonder if any other Trek or Wars crew/cast will show up?

Go England! Nice win Clough, but still a long way from the final.

A single by Nichols and Carroll cool- is the Star Trek theme with vocals on the flip side?

 

[dsp19]

Hopefully the Shah can be persuaded towards reform to address the democratic concerns in his country sooner rather than later. No Khomeni will make a difference certainly.

Shatner as Adama will be interesting- I wonder if any other Trek or Wars crew/cast will show up?

Go England! Nice win Clough, but still a long way from the final.

A single by Nichols and Carroll cool- is the Star Trek theme with vocals on the flip side?

Reagan will persuade but I don't think the Shah is going to listen...

We could see DC Fontana and a couple of other Trek writers contribute stories to BSG. No Star Wars people because there was a legal dispute between 20th Century Fox and Glen Larson/Universal due to what Fox considered BSG's similarities to Star Wars

England could be headed to big things under Clough. He loves working with underdog teams, and England in the 1970s was certainly an underdog team on the international stage.

The Star Trek theme with vocals is not on the flip side because Roddenberry would get sued by Alexander Courage ITTL. Courage would ask for and be entitled for more royalties than what he earned. This is also the reason why they didn't include the opera singer involved with the Star Trek after season 1 IRL. She was legally entitled to royalties and a SAG credit

 

[Ogrebear]

What about that Disco version of the Star Trek theme song instead?

This came out in 1977 according to: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Pan_Records

 

[dsp19]

What about that Disco version of the Star Trek theme song instead?

This came out in 1977 according to: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Pan_Records

Disco is going to be a little different ITTL because Reagan criticized it. I wrote about Reagan's musical tastes because that will extend disco's lifespan. This is the rebellious 70s, not the conformist 80s, and there's going to be more pushback against Ronnie in pretty much all areas. Due to Trek being more popular, this specific disco track will be more popular ITTL

 

[unclepatrick]

What about that Disco version of the Star Trek theme song instead?

This came out in 1977 according to: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Pan_Records

THE HORROR! THE HORROR!