List of Alternate Presidents and PMs II

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Whilst I do partly agree with this, I do also recognise that for some people a TLIA* can be far more work (since the content of that post would probably not be enough) and can seem like a far more daunting prospect than a list...
It wouldn't be enough, but it's heading that way and more fleshed-out TLs are always a good thing.

I was just giving some friendly encouragement so Taylerov wouldn't find it so daunting. Knowing somebody supports your TL before you've even started helps overcome that initial fear, I feel.
 
Turquoise Blue - More 22nd Century American Hijinks
@Premier Taylerov: Another way could be integrating your notes with the lists, sort of a "mini-TLIA*" thingummy.

The below is an example of how you do it. :)

Astro Hennessy (Democratic majority) 2123-2130
2123: def. Kamena Proudhon (Popular), Paul Edwin Stark (Labor), Hannah Santorum (Christian Republican), CeCe Lyons (Freedom)
2127: Misty Starborn (Popular), Paul Edwin Stark (Labor), Hannah Santorum (Christian Republican), CeCe Lyons (Freedom)

After the Constitutional Convention of 2121 finally abolished the presidential system in favor of a parliamentary one, America would enter a new era. The first President of the Fifth Republic would be proud "neoliberal" Astro Hennessy who led her party to a landslide over the opposition. Her first term would be championed by liberals for radical "Hennomics" that significantly deregulated the American economy and ended the era of the "Renewed Deal". She would win re-election by a narrower margin as Labor went down from "one of the big dogs" to merely "biggest of the minor parties", benefiting the Populars.

Assassinated by a crazed "alt-right" activist who claimed to be a member of the Christian Republicans. As much as Hannah Santorum condemned it, it harmed her party in the polls. Hennessy's successor would conclude the free trade negotiations she championed.

Zac O'Neill (Democratic majority) 2130-2135
2132: def. Misty Starborn (Popular), Pippi Fielding (Labor), Polly Shen (Freedom), Hannah Santorum (Christian Republican), Dorren Levering (Verdant)

The 2132 election would see the entrance of the deep-ecologist Verdant Alliance under charismatic preacher Dorren Levering. O'Neill's time as president would be short as the Democratic majority would be chiselled back in 2132 and be threadbare by 2135, so when a backbench rebellion happened, it was game over.

Misty Starborn (Popular-Labor coalition) 2135-21??
2135: def. Zac O'Neill (Democratic), Pippi Fielding (Labor), Hannah Santorum (Christian Republican), Polly Shen (Freedom), Dorren Levering (Verdant)

The 2135 election saw the Populars and Labor make major gains at the expense of the Democrats. The Populars gained in rural communitarian areas while Labor gained in more cosmopolitan suburbs. The two agreed to a coalition to safeguard and reinforce social security from the Democrats' tendency to cut government spending.

Time will tell if this coalition will last.​
 

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@Premier Taylerov: Another way could be integrating your notes with the lists, sort of a "mini-TLIA*" thingummy.

The below is an example of how you do it. :)

Astro Hennessy (Democratic majority) 2123-2130
2123: def. Kamena Proudhon (Popular), Paul Edwin Stark (Labor), Hannah Santorum (Christian Republican), CeCe Lyons (Freedom)
2127: Misty Starborn (Popular), Paul Edwin Stark (Labor), Hannah Santorum (Christian Republican), CeCe Lyons (Freedom)

After the Constitutional Convention of 2121 finally abolished the presidential system in favor of a parliamentary one, America would enter a new era. The first President of the Fifth Republic would be proud "neoliberal" Astro Hennessy who led her party to a landslide over the opposition. Her first term would be championed by liberals for radical "Hennomics" that significantly deregulated the American economy and ended the era of the "Renewed Deal". She would win re-election by a narrower margin as Labor went down from "one of the big dogs" to merely "biggest of the minor parties", benefiting the Populars.

Assassinated by a crazed "alt-right" activist who claimed to be a member of the Christian Republicans. As much as Hannah Santorum condemned it, it harmed her party in the polls. Hennessy's successor would conclude the free trade negotiations she championed.

Zac O'Neill (Democratic majority) 2130-2135
2132: def. Misty Starborn (Popular), Pippi Fielding (Labor), Polly Shen (Freedom), Hannah Santorum (Christian Republican), Dorren Levering (Verdant)

The 2132 election would see the entrance of the deep-ecologist Verdant Alliance under charismatic preacher Dorren Levering. O'Neill's time as president would be short as the Democratic majority would be chiselled back in 2132 and be threadbare by 2135, so when a backbench rebellion happened, it was game over.

Misty Starborn (Popular-Labor coalition) 2135-21??
2135: def. Zac O'Neill (Democratic), Pippi Fielding (Labor), Hannah Santorum (Christian Republican), Polly Shen (Freedom), Dorren Levering (Verdant)

The 2135 election saw the Populars and Labor make major gains at the expense of the Democrats. The Populars gained in rural communitarian areas while Labor gained in more cosmopolitan suburbs. The two agreed to a coalition to safeguard and reinforce social security from the Democrats' tendency to cut government spending.

Time will tell if this coalition will last.​
I like this notation style. Mind if I use it?
 
Mumby - Happy Days Are Here Again
Riffing on @shiftygiant gimmick of the same people serving roughly the same terms, but in wildly different circumstances.

Happy Days Are Here Again

1933-1941: Franklin D. Roosevelt / John N. Garner (Democratic)
1932 def. Herbert Hoover / Charles Curtis (Republican)
1936 def. Alf Landon / Frank Knox (Republican)

1941-1945: Franklin D. Roosevelt / Henry A. Wallace (Democratic)
1940 def. Wendell Willkie / Charles L. McNary (Republican)
1945-1953: Harry S. Truman / Arthur H. Vandenburg (Anti-Roosevelt Democrat / Republican)
1944 def. Franklin D. Roosevelt / Henry A. Wallace (Democratic), Thomas E. Dewey / Arthur H. Vandenburg (Republican)
1948 def. Henry A. Wallace / William O. Douglas (Democratic), Strom Thurmond / Fielding L. Wright (Dixiecrat), Robert A. Taft / John W. Bricker (Independent Republican)

1953-1961: Dwight D. Eisenhower / J. William Fulbright (Democratic)
1952 def. Robert A. Taft / Earl Warren (Republican)
1956 def. Douglas MacArthur / Richard Nixon (Republican)

1961-1963: John F. Kennedy / Lyndon B. Johnson (Democratic)
1960 def. Nelson Rockefeller / Richard Nixon (Republican), Harry F. Byrd / Strom Thurmond (States Rights)
1963-1965: Lyndon B. Johnson / vacant (Democratic)
1965-1969: Lyndon B. Johnson / Pat Brown (Democratic)

1964 def. Henry Cabot Lodge Jr. / Barry Goldwater (Republican)
1969-1972: Richard Nixon / John G. Tower (Republican)
1968 def. Lyndon B. Johnson / Pat Brown (Democratic)
1972-1974: Richard Nixon / Gerald Ford (Republican)
1972 def. Robert F. Kennedy / George Wallace (Democratic)
1974-1977: Gerald Ford / vacant (Republican)
1977-1981: Jimmy Carter / Elliot Richardson (Conservative Democrat / Republican)

1976 def. Frank Church / Walter Washington (Democratic), Gerald Ford / Elliot Richardson (Republican)
1981-1989: Ronald Reagan / Walter Mondale (Democratic)
1980 def. Jimmy Carter / John B. Anderson (Conservative Democrat / Republican), Elliot Richardson / Harold Stassen (Independent Republican)
1984 def. Phil Crane / John Connally (Republican)

1989-1993: George H. W. Bush / Joe Biden (Democratic)
1988 def. Bob Dole / Donald Rumsfeld (Republican)
1993-1997: Bill Clinton / Harold Stassen (Republican)
1992 def. George H. W. Bush / Joe Biden (Democratic), Ross Perot / James B. Stockdale (Independent)
1997-2001: Bill Clinton / Pat Buchanan (Republican)
1996 def. Jimmy Griffin / Bob Casey (Democratic), Dick Lamm / Lowell P. Weicker Jr. (Real Deal)
2001-2005: George W. Bush / Bill Bradley (Democratic)
2000 def. Pat Buchanan / Orrin Hatch (Republican)
2005-2009: George W. Bush / Barack Obama (Democratic)
2004 def. Lincoln Chafee / Dick Cheney (Republican)
2009-2017: Barack Obama / John Edwards (Democratic)
2008 def. Mike Huckabee / Tommy Thompson (Republican)
2012 def. Mitt Romney / Rick Perry (Republican)

2017-2021: Donald Trump / Sherrod Brown (Democratic)
2016 def. Rick Santorum / Chris Christie (Republican)

In this world, FDR isn't convinced to take Wallace off the ticket, and the growing resentment in the party bursts forth as the Truman/Farley ticket seeks to unseat Frank from his position of power. FDR is a bit healthier in this world and dies in the 1960s, really smug. The result of the Truman's independent run is that there is a hung electoral college and the compromise that results is Truman in the White House, with a Republican Veep. 1948 is if anything even more chaotic as Truman/Vandenburg win the Republican nomination, but only narrowly and the arch-conservatives in the party make their own run. The nomination of a solidly liberal ticket for the Democrats leads to the southern segregationists breaking away. This time, Truman enjoys a solid victory in the electoral college.

However, the controversies over the Truman doctrine as well as the rowing back on the New Deal mandated by reliance on the Republicans leads to a Democratic landslide in 1952, presaging an era of Democratic dominance that would last almost twenty years. Indeed the position of the Democrats as America's dominant party, begun in 1932 with the Democratic landslides, would soon become the pattern for the rest of the 20th Century, with the Republican bright spots coming from their acceptance of New Deal institutions under Nixon, and their successful capture of the Solid South from the Democrats, under Carter and Clinton. With the Democratic victory under New Dealer Trump in 2016, the Democrats have now occupied the White House for sixteen years, outstripping their previous records.
 
Awesome and well thought out as always @Premier Taylerov, you're certainly the most in depth writer of these lists by a long shot...
Thank you comrade.
Whilst I enjoyed the list, it gets a bit much to read all that text. Best thing to do when it gets that in-depth is to just write the timeline as a TLIA*. Depth in lists is great, but you've just demonstrated a perfectly good TLIA* with so many interesting sidenotes that constricting it to a list seems wholly inappropriate. You'd get a bigger audience for it as well, which is always a good thing.
Thanks man. I did think I might split the list up, but in the end just lumped it all together. It is a lot of text. In my opinion, better to have too much text than too little - but I hear what you're saying and I'm grateful for the criticism. I'm actually slowly compiling ideas for a TLIAD I have planned so hopefully once I've finished my real-life work I'll venture in that direction.
Whilst I do partly agree with this, I do also recognise that for some people a TLIA* can be far more work (since the content of that post would probably not be enough) and can seem like a far more daunting prospect than a list...
But it is true that that is an awful lot of text. I think I should probably have split things up but all well. As I say, TLIA* coming (relatively) soon!
It wouldn't be enough, but it's heading that way and more fleshed-out TLs are always a good thing. I was just giving some friendly encouragement so Taylerov wouldn't find it so daunting. Knowing somebody supports your TL before you've even started helps overcome that initial fear, I feel.
I appreciate it! Thanks. Hope you enjoyed the list regardless.
@Premier Taylerov: Another way could be integrating your notes with the lists, sort of a mini-TLIA* thingummy. The below is an example of how you do it.
Yeah, thank you! I've thought of a similar system that indeed keeps all the consecutive ministries together but separates it when things change. Example below!

1936-1945: Malcolm MacDonald (Labour)
1937: (Majority) Winston Churchill (Conservative), Geoffrey Mander (Liberal), John Simon (National Liberal), Fenner Brockway (Independent Labour)
1940: (Majority) Winston Churchill ('League' Conservative), Frank Owen (Liberal), Herwald Ramsbotham ('Anti-League' Conservative), John Simon (National Liberal), Henry Austin ('Anti-League' Liberal), Annie Maxton (Independent Labour)

And so, with both major parties having new leaders but the Conservatives in a crisis, Malcolm MacDonald - the son of Ramsay MacDonald - took the premiership with a narrow majority. Many believed that Churchill was too belligerent, and it was the firm view among the majority of the political classes that whilst Britain must rearm it could not risk entanglements on the continent or with the League of Nations (which remained largely isolated to French interests). As a result, for the first time in many years the Independent Labour Party (led by Fenner Brockway) broke from affiliation with Labour to campaign for true disarmament. They performed relatively well, and became the dominant force on the left to oppose the new Labour government. In 1937 the Stahlhelm officially surrendered to League forces, and the government of Johannes Popitz was inaugurated with significant support. (Germany would continue to repay her reparations commitments, and whilst the Popitz administration was deeply conservative it was largely opposed by the democratic parties of the former Roter Frontkämpferbund). The main League members - France, Italy and Poland - were jubilant at the perceived prevention of a German threat, although in truth all three were now largely dictatorial in nature. In Britain, MacDonald remained hesitant to rejoin the League despite calls from the Opposition, and instead focused upon a quiet consolidation of the armed forces and domestic reform. To the rest of Europe, the Soviet Union now emerged as the dominant threat; the death of Stalin in 1937 had led to a power struggle in the Kremlin, with Nestor Lakoba emerging as the victor amid quiet assassinations and falsified stories (chiefly against his main rival, Lavrenti Beria). Russian militarization alarmed states on the periphery of Europe, but ultimately it would prove in the east where the clash of ideologies would come to a head. The Japanese Empire had been slowly consuming China during the League intervention in Germany, and whilst viewed with great suspicion by the United States and the British Empire had been largely unchallenged. Aware of the European suspicion of Communism the Japanese applied to re-join the League in 1939, hoping that their shared interest in a weak Russia would be understood in Paris. It was. While the return of Japan into the League prompted major backlash (including in Britain), it was seen by many anti-Communists as an alliance of convenience to prevent any further growth of Communism. Hoping to consolidate his rule in Moscow, however, Lakoba announced the 'Declaration of the Perpetual Peoples' Revolution' to the 18th Party Conference, outlining Russian plans for the international spread of Bolshevism. A poorly-received speech by Maxim Litvinov at a meeting of the League in early-1940 furthered heightened tensions, and by the time of the general election later that year many believed that a war between the two blocs would prove inevitable.

1945-1950: Archibald Clark Kerr (Conservative)
1945: (Majority) Malcolm MacDonald (Labour), Frederick Marquis (National Conservative), Charles Hill (National Liberal), Seebohm Rowntree ('Reform' Liberal/Progressive), Albert Roberts (Liberal), Emmanuel Shinwell (Independent Labour)

The 1945 election indicated the direction that British politics was taking; Labour took an absolute beating despite their strong domestic record, and were handily defeated by the co-operating forces of the conservatives. Nevertheless, the Kerr government was representative of the impact that Popular Front formed by Churchill had had on the right; while Kerr led the rump of the traditional party, Frederick Marquis led a smaller independent faction called the 'National Conservatives' that favoured an alliance with other non-socialist groups in Parliament. Similar in many ways to the early National Liberals, Marquis whipped with the government but developed a partly-independent manifesto. Furthermore, the further fracturing of the Liberal Party worsened matters for Labour; the elderly Rowntree served as a figurehead for those demanding a centrist alternate of British problems while the basic Liberals further lost direction. The result was an indication of the public fear for the future, faced with a largely hostile and aggressive Soviet Europe. Kerr (whilst personally a moderate) had a rightist agenda, rebuffed by some as apologist for the failures of the near-fascist regimes of conquered Europe. Inheriting negotiations from MacDonald, Kerr brought the former Danish possessions in the North Atlantic under British control and granted Iceland independence (under British protection) in 1946. A new India Act was passed, granting it Dominion status, and passed comfortably in the Commons despite far-right grumblings. Britain watched as the former states of Europe were reconstituted into Soviets, and the Russian government of Abakumov created swathes of new puppet regimes (that it milked to improve industrial and economic prestige far eastwards in the motherland). This placed further strain upon Labour as the party found itself torn, and the Henderson reforms finally gave way to the fracturing of the Communist parties from the PLP. Only the Independent Labourites continued to advocate friendship with the USSR, leading to rumours that Annie Maxton had been placed upon the new MI11 'watchlist'. Indeed, Britain was consumed by a 'Red Scare' through the late-1940s; the roles of the Secret Services became synonymous with the political repression of far-left organizations and media censorship. The BBC became especially tightly controlled, with a Ministry for Public Information formed in 1947. Acknowledging that the Soviet Union was the hegemon of Europe, the party remained divided as to how it should be diplomatically treated. As the Republican administration of President Orville Bullingdon formally acknowledged the new puppet governments in Europe in 1949, Stanley followed suit. However, it was clear that tensions in America were rising as to the continued growth of the Communist threat. Kerr was also keen to restore the Conservative role as the natural party of government; major efforts were made to modernize infrastructure, and whilst the government remained opposed to nationalization it endorsed strongly the rationalization of the railways into 1950. Major work began on a proper motorway system for the country, too, and the Council Housing System - enacted to cross-party support in 1948 - continued the work begun by Ramsay MacDonald in improving the public health via an increased standard of living. However, with his health failing and having had a long and distinguished career Kerr announced that he would retire prior to the 1950 election. Unable to be persuaded to stay on by the King, the Conservative set about on their usual backroom deals to appoint a new leader.
I think that, combined with breaking up the list itself into smaller sections, is better. I like to think that lists should be timelines on their own without needing any further justification. Thank you for all your help and criticisms though.
 
Beata Beatrix - Mugabemania (Presidents of Zimbabwe from 1987 to present)
A nasty potential future for Zimbabwe. I really do hope things go better than this.

PRESIDENTS OF ZIMBABWE (1987 - present)

1980 - 1987: Canaan Banana (Zimbabwe African National Union)
1987 - 2019: Robert Mugabe (Zimbabwe African National Union - Popular Front)

1990: Edgar Tekere (Zimbabwe Unity Movement)
1996: Abel Muzorewa (United Parties)
2002: Morgan Tsvangirai (Movement for Democratic Change)
2008: Morgan Tsvangirai (Movement for Democratic Change - Tsvangirai)
2013: Morgan Tsvangirai (MDC-T)
2018: Morgan Tsvangirai (United Movement for Democratic Change)

2019 - 2023: Grace Mugabe (ZANU-PF)
2023 - 2023: Thokozani Khuphe (UMDC)

2023: Grace Mugabe (ZANU-PF)
2023 - 2025: Perence Shiri (Military / ZANU-PF)

By 2018, the two rival factions of the Movement for Democratic Change, the dominant opposition party to Robert Mugabe's long-established ZANU-PF, led by Morgan Tsvangirai and Welshman Ncube, respectively, had reunited after Mugabe's very public health struggles during the build-up to the 2018 presidential election. Ultimately, Tsvangirai would be the new United Movement for Democratic Change's candidate, but would lose to Mugabe, who would die in 2019, at the age of 95. After a brief power struggle in which Vice President Emmerson Mnangagwa would be dispatched, the former First Lady, Grace Mugabe, would assume the presidency.

"Gucci" Grace, many years her ex-husband's junior, was primarily known for her lavish lifestyle (hence her nickname; supporters called her "Amai," or "mother"), and was rumored to only be holding onto the presidency so she might have continued use of the credit card that went along with the office. Her government was a disastrous one, with the cracks hidden by her predecessor surfacing en masse. By 2023, she barely retained control of ZANU-PF over her Vice President, Fortune Chasi. Ultimately, Mugabe lost the presidency to the UMDC's candidate, Thokozani Khuphe.

Khuphe's term would only last a few days, for military "loyalists" and much of ZANU-PF would support a coup led by Air Marshal Perence Shiri. Shiri was a cousin of Robert Mugabe, who called himself "Black Jesus" because he "could determine your life like Jesus Christ." Some forty years prior, Shiri had been responsible for leading the Zimbabwe Fifth Brigade, which perpetrated the genocide against the Ndebele people known as the Gukurahundi. With Khuphe and her government fleeing Zimbabwe, and Shiri becoming more and more authoritarian in nature, pressure to send a humanitarian mission to remove Shiri grew. On March 10th, 2024, the President of the United States, Tom Periello, authorized American troops, as part of a UN task force, to intervene in the "tragic crisis" gripping Zimbabwe.
 
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loneranger - Marvel Universe Presidents
From a thread I've started in the ASB forum

1968-1974: Richard Nixon (R-CA) / Spiro Agnew (R-MD)
1974: Richard Nixon (R-CA) / vacant
1975-1976: Richard Nixon (R-CA) / Gerald Ford (R-MI)
1976-1980: James Carter (D-GA) / Walter Mondale (D-MN)
1980-1988: Anthony Stark (R-CA) / James Rhodes (R-IL)
1988-1996: Steve Rogers (D-NY) / Joseph Biden (D-DE)
1996-2000: Joseph Biden (D-DE) / Al Gore (D-TN)
2000-2008: John McCain (R-AZ) / John Bush (R-FL)
2008-2012: Matthew Ellis (D-MA) / Anthony Rodriguez (D-NM)
2012: Matthew Ellis (D-MA) / vacant
2012-2016: Matthew Ellis (D-MA) / Barack Obama (D-IL)
2016: Norman Osborn (R-NY) / William Stryker (R-ID)

Richard Nixon was barely able to hang onto power thanks to working with Iron Man in toppling various Communist countries, including winning the Vietnam War. Still, he was damaged enough that Jimmy Carter's outsider campaign worked with the people. Carter didn't really want to send Iron Man around unilaterally enforcing American policy, so he sidelined Stark and tried to make peace with the USSR (which had turned isolationist under Premier Reed Rostislav). This made the Commie-hating Tony Stark pretty angry, and Tony was able to win the Republican nomination in 1980 and chose his best friend and biggest critic - Senator James Rhodes as his Vice President. Stark primarily focused on a renewed space race and battling the USSR - he created the Star Wars program, got a manned mission to Mars, and passed a universal healthcare bill.

He was followed by Steve Rogers, known popularly as Captain America. Rogers had been frozen in ice at the end of World War II and had resurfaced in the late 1960s. He fought alongside Stark in the 1980s but soon became a critic of his during the 1980s, eventually being convinced by a "Draft Cap" movement within the Democratic party in 1988. He accepted the nomination and went on to defeat James Rhodes in the 1988 election. Rogers did a lot to help American foreign policy wise, restoring relations with countries such as Cuba and Vietnam and enhancing SALT treaties (which had admittedly started under President Stark). He also pushed back against Congress, specifically vetoing a "Protection of Marriage Act" and other such violations of Civil Rights. He was helped in this matter by Supreme Court Justice Sam Wilson, whom Rogers had appointed to the court in 1989.

Rogers was succeeded by his Vice President Joe Biden (who had given Cap a strong showing in the 1988 primary) and Biden was largely seen as a "third term for Captain America". He lost in 2000 to Senator McCain and Governor Bush, who called for a return to a "Strong America". The McCain led the International effort against newly rising terrorist groups such as the Ten Rings.

Matthew Ellis (of the MCU) can basically be described as "Male Elizabeth Warren" in terms of past and broad career path (although he came to the Senate in 2002). He was re-election in a close run campaign in 2012, and soon afterwards was tainted by the revelation that his own Vice President Rodriguez was working with a terrorist organization (in this case AIM) that had attempted a coup on the executive branch. This led to a marked distrust in the national government, only barely mitigated by Ellis appointing charismatic Senator Barack Obama as his new Vice President.

This distrust came to a head in 2016, as corrupt businessman Norman Osborn successfully won the Presidency against the Barack Obama ticket, winning despite all odds on what was basically a massive smear campaign. Former President Stark - now a famous inventor in the mold of Steve Jobs, has expressed some concerns about the Osborn Presidency and believes that there should be an investigation into their ties to Anton Vanko's Russia.
 

shiftygiant

Gone Fishin'
A nasty potential future for Zimbabwe. I really do hope things go better than this.

PRESIDENTS OF ZIMBABWE (1987 - present)

1980 - 1987: Canaan Banana (Zimbabwe African National Union)
1987 - 2019: Robert Mugabe (Zimbabwe African National Union - Popular Front)

1990: Edgar Tekere (Zimbabwe Unity Movement)
1996: Abel Muzorewa (United Parties)
2002: Morgan Tsvangirai (Movement for Democratic Change)
2008: Morgan Tsvangirai (Movement for Democratic Change-Tsvangirai)
2013: Morgan Tsvangirai (MDC-T)
2018: Morgan Tsvangirai (United Movement for Democratic Change)

2019 - 2023: Grace Mugabe (ZANU-PF)
2023 - 2023: Thokozani Khuphe (UMDC)

2023: Grace Mugabe (ZANU-PF)
2023 - 2025: Perence Shiri (Military / ZANU-PF)

By 2018, the two rival factions of the Movement for Democratic Change, the dominant opposition party to Robert Mugabe's long-established ZANU-PF, led by Morgan Tsvangirai and Welshman Ncube, respectively, had reunited after Mugabe's very public health struggles during the build-up to the 2018 presidential election. Ultimately, Tsvangirai would be the new United Movement for Democratic Change's candidate, but would lose to Mugabe, who would die in 2019, at the age of 95. After a brief power struggle in which Vice President Emmerson Mnangagwa would be dispatched, the former First Lady, Grace Mugabe, would assume the presidency.

"Gucci" Grace, many years her ex-husband's junior, was primarily known for her lavish lifestyle (hence her nickname; supporters called her "Amai," or "mother"), and was rumored to only be holding onto the presidency so she might have continued use of the credit card that went along with the office. Her government was a disastrous one, with the cracks hidden by her predecessor surfacing en masse. By 2023, she barely retained control of ZANU-PF over her Vice President, Fortune Chasi. Ultimately, Mugabe lost the presidency to the UMDC's candidate, Thokozani Khuphe.

Khuphe's term would only last a few days, for military "loyalists" and much of ZANU-PF would support a coup led by Air Marshal Perence Shiri. Shiri, a cousin of Robert Mugabe, who called himself "Black Jesus" because "could determine your life like Jesus Christ." Some forty years prior, Shiri had been responsible for leading the Zimbabwe Fifth Brigade, which perpetrated the genocide against the Ndebele people known as the Gukurahundi. With Khuphe and her government fleeing Zimbabwe, and Shiri becoming more and more authoritarian in nature, pressure to send a humanitarian mission to remove Shiri grew. On March 10th, 2024, the President of the United States, Tom Periello, authorized American troops, as part of a UN task force, to intervene in the "tragic crisis" gripping Zimbabwe.
This is really p h r e s h
 
Oppo - Revolution: A Turbulent 60 Years
Revolution: A Turbulent 60 Years

2017: Evan McMullin/Tim Kaine (Independent/Democrat)
2016: Hillary Rodham Clinton/Tim Kaine (Democrat), Donald J. Trump/Mike Pence (Republican), Evan McMullin/Mindy Finn (Independent), Gary Johnson/William Weld (Libertarian) [1]
2017: Tim Kaine/Vacant (Democrat) [2]
2017-2023:
Tim Kaine/Thomas Perez (Democrat) [3]
2020: Donald J. Trump/Jon Huntsman Jr. (Republican), Charles Hagel/James Webb (Independent), Justin Amash/Jesse Ventura (Libertarian) [4]
2023-2024: Thomas Perez/Vacant (Democrat) [5]
2024-2025: Thomas Perez/Lindsay Graham (Democrat/Independent)
2025-2029: Rick Scott/Jon Husted (Republican) [6]
2024: Thomas Perez/Mitch Landrieu (Democrat), Lisa Murkowski/James Starvidis (National)
2029-2030: Rahm Emanuel/Gavin Newsom (Democrat)
2028: Hugo Anson/William Hurd (National), Pam Bondi (replacing Jon Husted)/Drew Ferguson (Republican) [7]
2030: Rahm Emanuel/Vacant (Democrat) [8]
2030-2033: Rahm Emanuel/Larry R. Austin (Democrat) [9]
2033-2041: Graciano Davor Lucas/Nicholas A. Caeus (National) [10]
2032: Jon Ossoff/Zephyr Teachout (Progressive), Drew Ferguson/Tom Cotton (Republican), Rahm Emanuel/Larry R. Austin (Democrat) [11]
2036:
Jay Goyal/Ilya Sheyman/Bakari Sellers (Progressive), Cathy McMorris Rogers/Kathleen Russell (Republican), Larry R. Austin/Betty Campbell (Democrat), Randy Terry/Al Simon (Pirate-Liberty) [12]

2041-2049: Hubert Roy/Jamal Richardson (Progressive) [13]
2040: Nicholas A. Caeus/Marco Rubio (National), Steve Scalise/Van Taylor (Alliance), Randy Terry/Al Simon (Pirate-Liberty) [14]

2044: P. Alexander Boyd/Olivia D. Driscoll (National), M. Pete Dearolf/Zachary Sherman III (Pirate-Liberty), Leonard Starke/Fionnathan Ulfsson Jr. (Alliance) [15]
2049-2051: Nicholas A. Caeus/Olivia D. Driscoll (National) [16]
2048: Jamal Richardson/Evan L. McMillian (Progressive), Jim Hunt/Bobby Rojakker (Pirate-Liberty)
2051: Olivia D. Driscoll/Vacant (National) [17]
2051-2057: Olivia D. Driscoll/Lisa Moynihan (Farmer-Labor) [18]
2052: Paul Randall Johnson/Bob L. Anderson (Pirate-Liberty)
2057-2065: Lucas Ferman/Quentin L. Alnwick (Pirate-Liberty) [19]
2056: Lisa Moynihan/Larry Love (Farmer-Labor), Randy Terry/Various (Anarchist-Pirate), J. L. O'Driscoll/Cedric Hodges (Young Turk Social Democrats) [20]
2060: Evan L. McMillian/Ally Kieth (Farmer-Labor), Randy Terry Jr./Allen Swift (Anarchist-Pirate), Terence P. L./Sidney R. McDouglas (Young Turk Social Democrats)

2065: Vacant/Jerry Landrieu (Farmer-Labor) [21]
2065-2069: Becky Smith/Jerry Landrieu (Independent/Farmer-Labor) [22]
2064: Becky Smith/Newton L. Anderson (Independent), K. Adebayo/Jerry Landrieu (Farmer-Labor), Quentin L. Alnwick/G. K. Forstall (Pirate-Liberty), Scott Williams/Walter G. Cummins (Anarchist-Pirate), Larry R. Austin/Zack Ford (Declare Your Independence)
2069-2075: Jerry Landrieu/Timo Roijakker (Farmer-Labor) [23]

2068: Becky Smith/Larry Love (Rally), Bob L. Dandekar/Patrica Powell (Anarchist-Pirate), James R. Roosevelt/P.L. Goldstein (Middle-Road Libertarians)
2072: Charles Richardson/Kenneth Parcell (Anarchist-Pirate), Larry Love/K. May (Rally Coalition)

2075-2077: Timo Roijakker/Vacant (Farmer-Labor) [24]
2077-Present: Charles Richardson/Fredrick Henderson Jr. (Anarchist-Pirate) [25]
2076:
Timo Roijakker/Peter Mansell (Farmer-Labor), Larry Love/James L. Macnee (Rally Coalition)


[1] ELECTION THROWN TO HOUSE: TRUMP WIN EXPECTED
[2] "Let us call for a time of peace, a time of gratitude, where we can live in human brotherhood. Let us make a child feel safe to play outside again."
[3] RUSSIA HACKS NY STOCK EXCHANGE
[4] "The election was taken from us, I believe that Egg McMuffin got money from the liberals to discredit and defeat our massive movement. Look at the people at my rallies. They are fed up!"
[5] PRESIDENT KAINE FOUND DEAD FROM HEART ATTACK
[6] "I'd like to say to the American people; there will be no moderation. Moderation gave us loss, after loss, after loss; and yet, the party took our only chance of a win away. I will be a principled conservative. I won't back down to angry liberals.
[7] "What have the Republicans and Democrats done to make your life better. Do they have a personal stake in your self-interests? Based on what I've seen, the answer is nothing and no."
[8] NEWSOM RESIGNS OVER AFFAIR
[9] "I'm not a liberal. The Democratic Party is no longer the party of failed extremists, but the start of a new future for each and every one of us. I hope that the voters see the true choice to be made in 2032, and I hope they vote for me and the President."
[10] "The Progressives think I'm the human trampoline, bouncing around from position to position. The facts are, I was a progressive before Bernie Sanders made it cool."
[11] A NATION BETRAYED: THE FALLOUT OF THE EMANUEL TAPES
[12] FREE OUR INFORMATION: VOTE PIRATE-LIBERTY
[13] "My fellow Americans, for the first time in our history, we have been attacked by a foreign power outside of our own planet."
[14] Finally, Louisiana, by far the closest state in this election will be called for New York Senator Hubert Roy of the Progressive Party, making him the 51st United States President"

[15] BOYD COLLAPSES AT CAMPAIGN EVENT: DRISCOLL CONTINUES CAMPAIGN
[16] "WE WANT CAEUS! WE WANT CAEUS! WE WANT CAEUS!"
[17] PRESIDENT CAEUS DEAD AT 57, VP DRISCOLL SWORN IN
[18] "Progressives and Nationalists need to unite against the dangers of pirate politics!"
[19] "Frankly, the policies of the Farmer-Labor Party aren't just dangerous, they're illogical. Just ook at the 52nd President. People aren't thinking correctly anymore."
[20] "Governor Ferman is a traitor to our party, pirate politics, and this nation. The Farmer-Labor Party has a running mate that reminds us more of Donald Trump than a "progressive". I'm not a moderate. I'm a radical, and about as radical as they get. We need an Anarchist-Pirate Party!"
[21] 2016 RETURNS: HOUSE'S INDESCION CONTINUES
[22] SMITH: PIRACY IS OVER
[23] "I want to be able to look at the streets of our cities, our farms, and be proud to be an American. I want to see a country soaring higher and higher, not one crumbling under failed leadership."
[24] ANARCHISTS CONTINUE BLOCK OF ROIJAKKER'S VP PICK
[25] "We are in control now. Every man may be a king, every woman a queen. A new chapter to the story of our country has been written. All government will be terminated from our system. Each of you will live a free life for the first time in our history."
 
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