Richard's grandmotherWorks for me though whwre would the Jacquetta come from?
Richard's grandmotherWorks for me though whwre would the Jacquetta come from?
Krnov/Jägerndorf
Interesting! Could we perhaps see Catherine of Austria (daughter of Philip and Joanna) wed Richard of Wales?
That if Philip married Joanna at all, something who I find pretty unlikely as he was engaged to Anne of York and will likely marry her in this scenarioI think it’s very likely especially if Richard iii/his son renew their Burgundian alliance to tackle France
Assuming of course that there is sufficient dowry for such a marriage no?That if Philip married Joanna at all, something who I find pretty unlikely as he was engaged to Anne of York and will likely marry her in this scenario
Why will he wed Anne of York? She brings barely any dowry compared to Joanna. Also Joanna is Ferdinand and Isabella's heiress while Anne will inherit nothingThat if Philip married Joanna at all, something who I find pretty unlikely as he was engaged to Anne of York and will likely marry her in this scenario
Because he would be already married to Anne, to which he was engaged before Richard III‘s takeover, when the OTL arrangement between Maximilian and the Catholic Monarchs was made. Also Joanna WAS NOT the heiress of her parents at the time of the marriage and NOBODY expected who she would inherit, else she would be married in Portugal and Maria offered for Philip.Why will he wed Anne of York? She brings barely any dowry compared to Joanna. Also Joanna is Ferdinand and Isabella's heiress while Anne will inherit nothing
If Joanna was expected to inherit, why would she go to Portugal??? She can't rule from thereBecause he would be already married to Anne, to which he was engaged before Richard III‘s takeover, when the OTL arrangement between Maximilian and the Catholic Monarchs was made. Also Joanna WAS NOT the heiress of her parents at the time of the marriage and NOBODY expected who she would inherit, else she would be married in Portugal and Maria offered for Philip.
Considering how important was the alliance for both sides and who I doubt who Philip would renounce to the match, unless a French girl was offered, I think who the dowry will not be an insurmountable problem (specially considering who in OTL Joanna brought no money, thanks to the double match with Spain, and who her trousseau was lost in the journey)Assuming of course that there is sufficient dowry for such a marriage no?
Because she would still need an husband and Manuel of Portugal was a very good match for a potential heiress (reason for which Joanna’s elder sister Isabella was married to him)If Joanna was expected to inherit, why would she go to Portugal??? She can't rule from there
And once she inherits, she moves back...?Because she would still need an husband and Manuel of Portugal was a very good match for a potential heiress (reason for which Joanna’s elder sister Isabella was married to him)
After her parents died, sure she and Manuel will divide their time between Portugal, Castile and AragonAnd once she inherits, she moves back...?
And once she inherits, she moves back...?
So, hypothetical tree:After her parents died, sure she and Manuel will divide their time between Portugal, Castile and Aragon
She...barely ruled IOTL...Frankly, I don't get your logic, like she can't rule from Portugal, but she can from Burgundy? Burgundy is far, far further away from Castile & Aragon than Portugal + Portugal has much more similar culture to these two than Burgundy.
She...barely ruled IOTL...
The heir would be called John/Juan of Spain… and the second girl BeatriceSo, hypothetical tree:
Manuel I of Portugal m. 1499* Joanna of Castile and Aragon
1. Ferdinand of Castile and Aragon
2. Manuel
3. Isabella
4. Joanna
5. Maria
6. Katherine
7. Joao
8. Beatrice
Agreed. What happened to Juana was all fault of her husband and parents and would NOT happen to her if she had married differently to a better husbandAnd ended up becoming imprisoned + ruling from Portugal was never tried IOTL, so why are you convinced it's impossible? Philips from II to IV ruled all Iberia and they did it without much problems.
Charles V spent his life on the road because he was simply unable to rule from one place alone, is all. But, Joanna could certainly try to rule Castile and Aragon from Portugal, it hasn't been done before.And ended up becoming imprisoned + ruling from Portugal was never tried IOTL, so why are you convinced it's impossible? Philips from II to IV ruled all Iberia and they did it without much problems.
If it's the fault of her parents, it would happen regardless of who the husband is...the heir would NOT be called John because Joanna's brother, John, died too young to be king meaning the name would be seen as unlucky...The heir would be called John/Juan of Spain… and the second girl Beatrice
Agreed. What happened to Juana was all fault of her husband and parents and would NOT happen to her if she had married differently to a better husband