Le Grand Empire Français: A French Empire Timeline

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The Battle Of Plassey​

The year is 1757 and a major battle broke out between the British and the French in the Indian subcontinent theatre of the Seven Years War in Bengal and it is a conflict known as the Battle of Plassey and this battle will be a turning point for whoever wins it would control the Bengal region of the Indian subcontinent.

France becomes victorious and won the Battle of Plassey in the Indian theatre of the Seven Years War due to Nawab of Bengal Siraj ud-Duluah and his French allies having numerically superior forces against the British and the British East India company causing the French in India and the Nawab of Bengal Siraj ud-Duluah and his French allies preventing the British annexation of Bengal to Britain and the British East India company and the French after the Battle of Plassey would go to take back the French Fort Chandannagar which they lost in a previous battle against the British.

The French if they keep being victorious like they are will end up winning the Third Carnatic War (Indian Subcontinent Theatre Of The Seven Years War) the French will soon conquer all of the Indian subcontinent in the near future from the British and dissolve the declining Indian civilizations prior to European colonization in India such as the Mughal Empire and when the Mughal Empire falls the French Empire in India will take its place and dissolve all of the Mughal Empire and all of the lands that the Mughal Empire laid claim to.

 

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The French Prevent The Capture Of Louisbourg And Win The Plains Of Abraham​

The French are being better supplied in the colonial theatres especially the North American theatre of the Seven Years War in this timeline. The French forces commanded under General Chevalier de Drucour along with the Acadian and Mi'kmaq militias in North America successfully prevent the British forces commanded under General Jeffrey Amherst from capturing the French Fortress of Louisbourg in Cape Breton Island.

Louisbourg is extremely important and possibly the most important thing to the French in North America because the Fortress of Louisbourg was a naval base in North America that controlled the Grand Banks and the Saint Lawrence Valley and after that the French forces along with their French Canadian and Mi'kmaq allies keeping the Fortress of Louisbourg could prevent most if not all British attempts at conquering Canada from the French as long as the French could hold on to the Fortress of Louisbourg and control the Saint Lawrence Valley and the Grand Banks of North America.

 

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The French Reinvade Their Lost Colonies
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The French after they prevent the capture of the Fortress of Louisbourg would then go to reinvade all of the colonies that they lost to the British during the War of the Spanish Succession. These colonies that France would reinvade from Britain would firstly be Acadia to resettle the Acadians in New England that were expelled from Acadia which is now the present day Canadian provinces of New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, and Prince Edward Island by New England forces and along with that Acadia can be used as a strategic point along with Newfoundland for the French in North America because Acadia and Newfoundland are near the Saint Lawrence Valley and controlling the Saint Lawrence Valley was very important for the French in North America.

The French after they reinvade Acadia would then go to reinvade Newfoundland from the British because Newfoundland was very important to French fisherman as well as the French fishing industry in North America and the fishing industry was a highly profitable industry to the French in North America. After the French reinvaded all of the colonies that they lost to Britain during the War of the Spanish Succession are not going to try to invade the 13 colonies for many reasons such as the Thirteen colonies having a much larger population than New France and New France had a very low population that in order to survive as a colony against the British and along with that New France depended on Metropolitan France to supply them with troops, supplies and many other needed stuff.

 

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Battle Of Kunersdorf​

After the French are having enormous victories in the colonial theatres of India and North America in the Seven Years War the French and their allies in the European theatre of the Seven Years War the Austrians and the Russians will go and successfully follow up their victory in the Battle of Kunersdorf against the Prussians and when the Austrians and the Russians will go to occupy the Prussian capital city of Berlin the Austrians and Russians will eventually defeat Prussia and win the Seven Years War in the European theatre against Prussia.

After the defeat of Prussia by the Austrians and the Russians and the occupation of the Prussian capital city of Berlin and the defeat of Prussia. The allies of the Austrians and the Russians such as the Swedes will find this as a perfect opportunity to go reinvade Pomerania from the Prussians which the Swedes lost to the Prussians in the Great Northern War. But the Swedes aren’t the only one that will go and find this as a perfect opportunity to go and conquer land the French will also go to invade the Rhineland states such as the Electorate of Hanover, Hesse-Kassel, and Schaumburg-Lippe and turn them into client states of France.

 

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The End Of The Seven Years War​

Britain after their ally Prussia was defeated by the Austrians and Russians in the European theatre of the Seven Years War and with the French defeating the British in the colonial theatres such as India, North America and West Africa as well as the French defeating the British in the European theatre of the Seven Years War as well the British after they could no longer win the Seven Years War against the French alone the British will start to negotiate for peace with the French and their allies of Austria, Russia, and Sweden.

France will acquire the colonies of Acadia, Newfoundland, and Hudson Bay in North America, Bengal and Carnatic regions in the Indian Subcontinent, and the Electorate of Hanover with a few other German Rhineland states such as Brunswick-Wolffenbuttel, Schaumburg-Lippe, and Hesse-Kassel as French client states in Europe. Austria will get Silesia, Russia will get East Prussia, the Swedes will gain Pomerania.

Spain doesn't join the Seven Years War in this alternate timeline because the war ended before May 1 1762 and in our timeline Spain would declare war against Britain if it didn't end the war before May 1 1762. Another reason why Spain didn't join the Seven Years War is that the French are having enormous victories against the British in the Seven Years War in this alternate timeline. One of the biggest reasons the Spanish in our timeline fought in the Seven Years War was to help the French recover their colonies in America.

 

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Population Boom In New France​

The Seven Years War had just ended and France and their allies had became victorious at the end of the Seven Years War and the French win in the colonial theatres of the Seven Years War and they have their massive colony of New France in North America. The French Chief Minister Etienne Francois, duc de Choiseul predicted an American Revolt in our timeline but in this alternate timeline he would still predict an American revolt because the British were not entirely defeated from North America because of their high populations in the Thirteen Colonies. New France isn't self sufficient like the British Thirteen Colonies Were and so the French station some of their military in North America in order to put down a probable American revolt that could happen from the British Thirteen Colonies.

There is one problem that could be the biggest problem with New France and that problem is it's very low population and New France had only 70,000 in their North American colony of New France and the Brits in North America had over 2,000,000 going on to 2,500,000 to 3,000,000 in their Thirteen colonies in North America so the French need more settlers in order to have a foothold in North America and the French peasants having bad harvests in the times of the 1760s and 1770s and more specifically the years of 1769, 1770, 1775, and 1776 in France along with famine in some instances as well. France would see the importance of having settlers in New France and the French government would be giving peasants that were facing bad harvests in France land grants in North America in order to populate New France.

The French peasants that would settle in New France would mostly settle in Pays Des Illinois and the Ohio River Valley areas of New France because the French would want to better secure their claim to those areas and those areas and they were also really good for farming as well. The French peasants after they boarded ships and sailed passed the Atlantic Ocean and the Saint Lawrence River into the Great Lakes would arrive in the Pays Des Illinois and Pays d'en Haut area of New France the French peasants after settling there thought the area was very empty so they decided to build farms and establish themselves in New France along with their families.

 

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The Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth, a nation in Eastern Europe next to Austria, Prussia, Swedish Pomerania, and Russia, was once a very prosperous country and a a very large country as well, spanning over 1 million sq kilometers which is about 400,000 sq miles, it was united in the 1569 Union of Lublin where Poland and Lithuania merged to become the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, and the Polish Monarch was both King of Poland, and Grand Duke Of Lithuania. But its economy was troubled and was in decline due to a series of constant wars from the 17th and 18th centuries, its geographic position was an obvious weakness due to sharing borders with many nations that were at times hostile to the Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth such as Prussia and the German states in the west, Sweden in the north, Russia to the east, and Austria to the South.

The elective monarchy was also another factor of the collapse of the Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth from being a major European power, to basically being a protectorate of the great powers that it bordered, with Russia often interfering in its elections and bribing officials to get policies to be put in place that would benefit the great power of Russia rather than that of the Polish Lithuanian Commonwealth itself. This led other nations to take advantage of its weakness and so the 1772 Partition of Poland began with Russia beginning to take the eastern part of Poland while Austrians would get the western part of Poland. Sweden was opposed to the partition of Poland with many Swedish people supporting Polish resistance to the Partition of Poland, and Prussia would take less of Poland in this alternate timeline because the Prussians would be severely weakened due to the 1760 Treaty of Paris, which basically partitioned most of Prussia after their defeat in the Seven Years War against France and it’s allies which left Prussia with just Brandenburg and East Pomerania, while Silesia which went to Austria, East Prussia which went to Russia, and West Pomerania which went to Sweden.

 

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Louis XVI Becomes King Of France​

The King of France before Louis XVI was his grandfather, Louis XV was born on February 15, 1710 in the Palace of Versailles. He had ascended the throne at the age of five, when he was a young child, his regent Philippe II, Duke Of Orleans took over in 1715 and ruled until his death in 1723. Louis XV had an extremely long reign at around 59 years on the throne ruling from 1715-1774. His coordination was on 25 October 1722 in Royal Basilica in Saint Denis, France which is now a suburb of Paris, France. He reigned through many events throughout the history of France, with the most notable being the War of the Quadruple Alliance, War Of The Austrian Succession, and the Seven Years War.

King Louis XV died on May 10, 1774 in the Palace of Versailles, the same place in which he was born, and the throne went to his grandson Louis, who would become King Louis XVI of France, his coordination was at Reims Cathedral in Reims France which is a city in Northeastern France. In our timeline he on 21 January 1793, and later his wife Marie Antoinette on 16 October 1793 who was the Queen of France, would be executed by a revolutionary mob in Paris during the French Revolution, But in this alternate timeline where the French revolution would be a lot different from the one of our timeline, King Louis XVI would live to continue his reign as King of France and stay on the French throne, in this alternate timeline he would live to be a great king, possibly one of the greatest, because he wanted to reform France, help the lower classes, and was a huge promoter of the Enlightenment within France. France under King Louis XVI in this alternate timeline would end up becoming an enlightened monarchy.

 

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Plan Of Union
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The French would build up their navy and station a good amount of their military in North America to defend New France to from a possible conquest from the British and their Thirteen colonies in North America because New France unlike the British Thirteen Colonies didn't have a large population that could colonize and secure the colony against potential invaders so New France would be extremely reliant on Metropolitan France to supply New France and its colonies of Acadia, Canada, Hudson Bay, Louisiana, and Newfoundland with needed things such as necessary protection, supplies, and infrastructure because the colony was as developed and populated as much as the Thirteen Colonies.

The Americans in the British colonies despite being taxed lower than Brits themselves and not having representation and the Americans still wanting to be British subjects due to the French in North America. The British colonies would get their on Parliament somewhere around 1774 when Joseph Galloway, a British Loyalist in our timeline, would propose a Plan of Union which would give the British colonies their own Parliament and would politically unite the British colonies with Britain, Galloway's Plan of Union in our timeline was turned down by a pretty narrow margin, a 5-6 vote to be exact, but it would be more popular in this timeline because Britain would see it as a perfect way to resolve the conflicts that are going on over taxation in the colonies. Since the British couldn't control America forever and America was self sustainable America would most likely be given a British Dominion status similar to what countries like Australia and Canada have in our timeline so they would still be apart of Great Britain but would be a self governing entity the British would pass the 1774 British North America Act. The British would also give the Americans their own military and army divisions that the American colonists could defend themselves against the French in North America with less intervention from Great Britain.

 

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The British North American War/King Louis War​

The Americans in the Thirteen Colonies want to expand westward from the Appalachians and weaken the French in North America. The British North American War would start around 1778 with ongoing pressures from the Americans in Parliament and the British wanting to get revenge on the French for winning the Seven Years War. The Americans would want to take the valuable trade routes and important strategic points from the French such as the Saint Lawrence River and the Mississippi River which the French controlled the ports to both of those rivers in through their colonies.

The British North American War would start with the Americans hoping to take the Fortresses of Beausejour and Louisbourg away from the French in the French colony of Acadia because both of those Fortresses controlled the Saint Lawrence and the Americans would also want to take the city of New Orleans in the colony of Louisiana in order to gain control of the Mississippi River. Those would be very hard to do and the British and their American colonists would have very high odds of losing the war against the French because the French have a large army stationed in North America to protect New France against the enemies of the French and along with the arrival of peasants facing bad harvests in France would make the colony harder for the British in North America to hold and take from the French.

Spain would join the British North American War/King Louis War on the side of the French because the Spanish would want to ally with the French and attack the British southern colonies from the Spanish colony of Florida and the French colony of Louisiana. The British would want to conquer Florida because Florida, especially East Florida, would have very good farmland that the British would want and could use for cash crops and expand further British settlements in North America.

The war was a defensive war meaning that all that France had to do was win and they could keep their colonies because there was no more British colonies the French could take and successfully hold especially the British Thirteen colonies. The war would end in a stalemate between France, Spain, and Britain because of the large battle hardened French army that was stationed in North America many years before the war even took place and would be ready to fight against the British well as the French building up their navy as well. But the British and the American colonists had the population pressures that the French and Spanish didn't have.

The 1782 Treaty Of Paris would state that

• Britain would have to recognize the French Empire as the dominant colonial power in North America and India.
• Britain would have to recognize the Spanish Empire as the dominant colonial power in Florida, the American Southwest, Central, and South America.
• Non aggression between Britain, France, and Spain.

 

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North America After The British North American/King Louis War And The British And French Expeditions In The Pacific​

France had won both the Seven Years War (Four Years War) and the British North American War or known to the French as King Louis War in this alternate timeline. But there was going to eventually going be population pressures from east of the Appalachian Mountains coming across and wanting to expand westward so the French victory in the British North American War/King Louis War wouldn't last very long because the French didn't have the numbers in their North American colonies that the British had to stop the British colonists from doing so. The French in New France numbered around 400,000 in 1780 while the British numbered around 2.8 million so the French would be outnumbered 1:7 meaning that for every French colonist there would be around 7 British colonists in North America.

There was a French explorer of the name of Jean-Francois de Galaup, Comte de Laperouse which was sent by King Louis XVI in 1785 to go explore the Pacific around the Eastern seaboard of Asia and Australia as well as the Western seaboards of North and South America as well. The French in this alternate timeline wouldn't colonize Australia because the British would already have a colony in Australia and it is very far away and the French already have plenty of land in North America.

The British in this alternate timeline will discover Australia for the British in 1770 and the Pacific Northwest (The US States of Oregon, Washington, and the Canadian Province of British Columbia) would not be colonized at that same time for the same reasons it wasn’t in our timeline due to how remote it was from Europe and the parts of North America which were populated and had large European settlements where large numbers of European settlers came from mostly in the eastern seaboard.

 

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The Pacific Northwest And The British In Australia​

The Pacific Northwest (The US States of Oregon, Washington, and the Canadian Province of British Columbia), was quite unsettled as well as a pretty unknown region to almost all Europeans alike would be discovered by explorers such as James Cook, George Vancouver, Jean-Francois Laperouse who would discover these regions rather than colonize them for their countries. These regions in the west coast of North America would go uncolonized and unsettled for quite some time by any European power due to how remote the Pacific Northwest would be from Europe and perhaps the rest of North America particularly in the eastern part of North America where almost all of the European colonists both French and British had settled.

The economies of both Britain and France which are the main colonial powers aren’t going to well after the Seven Years War and setting up a colony and one especially that far away from Europe would be pretty expensive to do and would happen later in this timeline when the European powers gain more interest in the Pacific and when the economies of both Britain and France recover from years of war between the two powers and are in better shape than they were after fighting in the Seven Years War against each other.

The British under James Cook would of colonized Australia and other parts of the South Pacific in 1770. The First Fleet would arrive in Australia on 26 January 1788 after an 8 month voyage starting British colonization in Australia. The British would still have the Thirteen Colonies to send their convicts to when British jails and prisons get overcrowded the British are no longer going to send their convicts to the Thirteen Colonies because the Thirteen Colonies already have a large population of British settlers that they could be self sufficient to an extent.

The British instead are going to send their convicts to Australia and the newly acquired Pacific Northwest because Australia and the Pacific Northwest were just recently colonised by the British in this timeline and it is going to need settlers to survive as a colony anyway. The reasons why the British would colonize Australia and the Pacific Northwest in this timeline is because the British would want more land and more settler colonies in the British Empire and the British would also want ports in the southern hemisphere to have access to the Pacific and Indian Oceans for things such as defense and trading, The British wouldn’t want any of their rivals to start a colony in Australia especially France but France would have very little interest in Australia in this alternate timeline unlike in our timeline where the French had a lot of interest in Australia and Western Australia along with New Zealand in our timeline almost became French colonies.

The reason that the French would have little interest in Australia in this alternate timeline is because the French would have large parts of North America that they could populate and send settlers to and Australia for the French in this timeline would be extremely difficult if not impossible for the French to hold because it is very remote from any other French colony in the French Empire, and finally the French Empire would already have ports based in North America in the Gulf of Mexico and the Caribbean. The French would still colonize parts of the South Pacific such as Bougainville Island in 1768 because it is somewhat of a strategic area for trading purposes and the French would want to have ports in the Pacific for trade and defense purposes and for French interests in the southern hemisphere as well.

 

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French Reform/La Réforme Française
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It is the year 1789 and the French revolution is first starting with the Storming of Bastille which would cause the French government to wake up and pass reform because the French would have much more colonies in this alternate timeline and the French government wouldn’t of wanted other countries especially Great Britain to use the French revolution to their advantage in order to take the French colonies. One of the reasons Great Britain did not support the French revolution was that they feared that it would spark a revolution in their own country but with the American Revolution not happening they wouldn’t of known that a revolution could of happened in their own country.

But the French revolution in this alternate timeline is going to be different from the one in our timeline because the French have North American colonies that peasants can go to in order to restart their farms that were badly affected by the harvest failures that hit France before the revolution so bread riots would be less widespread in this alternate French Revolution. The French can also use their North American colonies as penal colonies as well in order to send any possibly radical political opponents that would otherwise rebel against the French government with violence like they did in our timeline with the most notable of these personalities being Maximilien Robespierre. Another reason why the French revolution is different in this alternate timeline is because the French crown and the French economy would be much more stable economically in this alternate timeline because the French would be possessing the extremely valuable Bengal and Southern Indian colonies on the Indian subcontinent that they obtained after their victory in the Seven Years War.

The French revolution in this alternate timeline would be much less radical and would rather be a series of reforms by King Louis XVI and other officials in the French government such as the adoption a constitutional monarchy similar to that of the British monarchy because the nobility really wanted a government that was similar to that of Great Britain along with solving the massive inequalities in French society by making French government and society much more fair for almost everyone within French society especially the third estates which were the peasants, merchants, and basically everyone else that paid almost all of the taxes in French society. There was also the intellectuals who were spreading enlightenment ideas across France and the rest of Europe as well and King Louis XVI himself was a big promoter of the enlightenment ideas and wanted to be good to his people and a perfect example of this is that he promoted efforts to do things such as abolish serfdom on royal land.

With a more economically stable French economy and government in this alternate timeline the French revolution wouldn’t of turned radical like it did in our timeline and the Jacobins under Maximilien Robespierre would of never risen to power so the French revolutionary wars would never of happened as well. To basically sum up the French revolution up in this alternate timeline the French government would be a constitutional monarchy similar to that of Great Britain. Inequalities that the third estate faced before reform were reformed to be more fair such as lowering taxes on them and the decline and the abolishment of feudalism as well. The French revolution in this alternate timeline will most likely end around 1793.

 

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North America In 1790.
Blue - France.
Red - Great Britain.
Yellow - Spain.
Dark Blue - Russia.
Dark Red - Denmark.
Black - Uncolonized.

New France population: 500,000.
British North America population: 3,893,000.

 

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Haitian Revolution And The Abolition Of Slavery​

The French have a colony in the caribbean known as Saint Domingue which is known as present day Haiti. The French colony of Saint Domingue which was a sugar and coffee producing colony as well as producing some fruits as well was the richest colony in the West indies and possibly the richest colony in history. But Saint Domingue had a problem because almost all of its wealth came from slavery on the plantations which produced many things like sugar, coffee, cotton, and many other things but it was mostly sugar plantations which were very deadly places for slaves to work quickly because of things such as pests such as snakes and diseases as well and there was also the issue of slavery because there were a lot of people in France who were very pro slavery and there were others who were strongly opposed to slavery.

The Haitian Revolution was a revolution by the mostly enslaved peoples of the French colony of Saint Domingue who were mainly black slaves and free people of colour such as mixed race creoles who were of mixed European (mostly French) and African descent rising up against the planters who were known as the Grand-Blancs class who were the plantation owners who owned the plantations and the slaves who worked on the plantations in Saint Domingue. Toussaint Louverture was the most famous of these Haitian Revolution leaders and he was born a slave in Saint Domingue and when the Haitian Revolution came along he commanded the Haitian rebels against France and than the Spanish and the British armies during the Haitian Revolution because Spain and Britain like the French didn’t want to see a successful black slave revolt in Saint Domingue or anywhere with slavery because the Spanish and the British feared it would spark a revolt in their own colonies like for example such as the British colony of the Bahamas or the Spanish colony of Santo Domingo that could inspire their own enslaved people to revolt against them as well.

In this alternate timeline with the establishment of the national assembly and a constitutional monarchy in France it is likely the French would outlaw slavery somewhere around 1793 like they did in our timeline and it would most likely end the Haitian Revolution peacefully because in our timeline when the France outlawed slavery the Haitian rebels stopped fighting against the French and they even joined the French to fight against the British and the Spanish who were on the side of the planters who were the class who owned the slaves and the plantations in Saint Domingue.

 

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North America in 1800-1810.
Blue - French.
Red - British.
Yellow - Spain.
Dark Blue - Russian.
Dark Red - Danish.
Black - Mississippi River/Uncolonized.
Purple - Joint British-French/Often Switches From French to British Influence.

The French would have to give up most of Pays Des Illinois and Pays d'en Haut except the Lake Michigan area, Southern Ontario would likely be a lot like Acadia with it switching from British to French influence a lot and would later be a joint British-French territory because a lot of American and French settlers would settle that area, similar to our timelines Oregon Territory between the British and the Americans. The latitude of our timeline city of Greater Sudbury would mark the border between French Canada and the joint British-French Southern Ontario in what is our timeline the Province of Ontario. The French would be forced to give these lands up to the British because of Anglo expansion throughout the North American continent and the French would also give them up because they were lightly settled and the French would want something out of it as well so they would sell them to Britain in exchange for peace similar to what the French did with Normandy during the Viking age. The Spanish would also do the same with Florida for the same reasons it did in our timeline and for what the French did to their lands in North America in this alternate timeline as well. Newfoundland would be split between France and Great Britain because it would be valuable to both nations because of the maritime industry.

Treaty of Philadelphia (1804)
- France gives parts of or all of Pays des Illinois and Pays d'en Haut East of the Mississippi River to Great Britain (Most of the US east of the Mississippi).
- Spain gives Florida to Great Britain.
- A peace agreement is negotiated and signed between Great Britain, France, and Spain.
- Newfoundland is split with the French influence in the west and the British influence in the east.

New France population: 725,000.
British North America population: 5,400,000.

 

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Since I am really attached to our timelines history as well as alternate history I am going to make this page. I will go back and add more people to it as we go in the future.

George Washington (1732-1799) Commander of the British army in the French and Indian war and later a commander of the Continental army than became the 1st President of the United States in our timeline remains a commander in the British Army until his death in 1799.

Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790) One of the most famous founding fathers of the United States and on the $100 bill in our timeline who helped founded the American Parliament in 1776 in this alternate timeline.

Sir Guy Carleton (1724-1808) Governor-General of Quebec and Loyalist in the American Revolutionary War who basically created English Speaking Canada by inviting Loyalists into what is now the Province of Ontario in our timeline remains a British colonial officer in the British army.

Marquis de Lafayette (1757-1834) Remains a general in the French army and likely would become an army commander in New France in this alternate timeline.

Patrick Henry (1736-1799) A Patriot in the American Revolution and who was the Governor of Virginia that said "Give me liberty of give me death" in our timeline remains a lawyer and a planter in this alternate timeline.

Paul Revere (1734-1818) A Patriot in the American Revolution remains a silversmith and becomes an early industrialist.

Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826) 3rd President of the United States and also negotiated the purchase of Louisiana and one of the signers of the constitution in our timeline would likely be a diplomat that would likely help develop better relations between France and Great Britain in this alternate timeline.

Napoleon Bonaparte (1769-1820) Military commander of the French army and than became Emperor of the French in our timeline would still be a military commander in this alternate timeline under King Louis XVI.

William Seward (1801-1872) Governor and senator of New York and the Secretary of State during the civil war and who negotiated the purchase of Alaska in our timeline would likely still be senator and than governor of New York in this alternate timeline as well.

 

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Westward Expansion​

It is the 1790s and in North America the two European powers the British and the French along with their colonies and colonists wanted to expand westward into the North American continent for almost any reason imaginable some colonists both British and French wanted to be involved and get a start in the highly profitable fur trade which brought both the British and French Empires a lot of money while other groups of North American colonists wanted new places in order to do things such as building new settlements and or setting down roots and raise large families. But the British and the French Empires in North America themselves would of wanted to expand into the North American continent as well and colonize it for similar reasons the colonists did and so that they could get as much land on the continent as they could to.

The French Empire with its recent reforms and new style of government such as the adoption of a constitutional monarchy and a parliamentary system would start sending dissident groups and minorities to their colonies (similar to what the British did) in order to populate the extremely sparsely populated colony of New France. The revocation of the Edict of Fontainebleau which was known as the Edict of Tolerance which was passed in 1787 by King Louis XVI would of given the Huguenots which were French Protestants along with Jews who were also given tolerance as well and both of these groups along with other groups as well would likely to be highly encouraged to settle in the French colonies by the French crown. The French Empire would of also developed penal colonies in the new world as well to get rid of overcrowding in prisons. The famines that were in France during the 1780s would cause the French population to migrate to New France in order to start a new life in North America and this would result in the French population in the French North American colonies to grow extremely rapidly as well. New France had just experienced a population boom and French settlers both recent arrivals and long established groups of colonists such as the Acadians and Quebecois in the French colonies would start to migrate to the Great Lakes and the Mississippi River regions of New France.

The British colonists would have far larger populations that would exceed that of other European colonies in North America like that of both New France and New Spain. The British colonists being in way larger numbers would start to head westward into the interior of the North American continent as they would go west of the Appalachian mountains they would of created extremely large population pressures almost everywhere they would go especially in areas such as the Ohio River Valley that it would make the French unable to hold the Ohio River Valley due to population pressures from the British colonies and some sort of negotiation would of had to been made with the British. The French would of had to hand almost all of their possessions east of the Mississippi river except for the Lake Michigan area which the French would keep for trading purposes that they could access Lake Michigan for their fur trading business in North America. The British would of also get some of Canada as well with our timeline Southern Ontario would be of been British while Newfoundland would of been split between the French and the British with French in the west and British in the east.

The Spanish along with the French would of also of been involved in this negotiation for the same reasons that the French are. There will also be population pressures coming from the British Southern Colonies in North America as well especially colonists in Georgia and the Carolinas because they would of wanted Florida from the Spain. There would be many reasons that the Southerners in the British colonies would of wanted Florida from the Spanish and the reasons are pretty obvious and extremely similar if not the same to that of our timeline they would of not wanted to have to endure attacks from Native Americans tribes that were based in Spanish Florida especially of that of the Seminole as well as Plantation owners in the Southern colonies mostly in Georgia would of not wanted a safe haven that was Spanish Florida that their slaves could of escaped to in order to escape slavery. Florida also has extremely good and arable land paired with a good climate that was extremely good for cash crops such as that of Sugarcane and Indigo that could of grown in Florida really well. This would of attracted a lot of the Plantation owners in the British Southern Colonies coming from mostly from Georgia and the Carolinas who owned slaves to come and settle in Florida.

 

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Former Slaves And Slave Owners ​

With the abolition of slavery in the French Caribbean in 1793 many of the former slaves in the French Caribbean were freed but many of them would face social problems similar to that after slavery was ended in the US after the reconstruction era. Former slaves in the French caribbean would face similar problems such as massive inequalities in society because a lot of the slave owners which were known as planters or Grands Blancs would fear a large majority free black population and would try absolutely everything in their power to disenfranchise them at all costs and make them feel inferior to the mostly ethnic white French population in every way they possibly could such as imposing an Apartheid/Jim Crow style racial segregation system similar to that in the Southern United States or Apartheid South Africa. In our timeline a lot of the white French elite in the French Caribbean made it where Africans were viewed as impure and as a disease just because of their skin colour. The French Caribbean especially in Saint Domingue had a social hierarchy which was determined by economic class and ethnic background with the wealthy white French elite on the top of the hierarchy known as the Grands Blancs and with Black African slaves being on the bottom of the hierarchy.

A lot of the freed former slaves and their descendants from the French Caribbean would also end up being imported to the mainland of North America in New France in the colony of Louisiana near the gulf coast to be used for economic practices similar to that of sharecropping and also for the use of exploitable cheap labour for the plantation owners in the French colonies based in the Caribbean and Louisiana. Former slaves and their descendants would be used as a source of exploitable labour to build up the infrastructure of the French colony of Lower Louisiana to prepare the North American colony for further white settlement.

Slavery in Louisiana in this alternate timeline would take longer to end and where slavery would likely end around the late 19th century somewhere around the 1880s. The importation of African slaves from both Africa and the Caribbean would likely be banned in Louisiana around the 1820s, somewhere around 1826, when France started to enforce the ban on the importation of African slaves in its colonies in our timeline. a lot of former slave owners, sometimes referred to as planters, from the Caribbean especially from French Haiti would migrate to Louisiana and build plantations. Like Australia in our timeline and this alternate timeline, Louisiana was and is a penal colony so it would also have prisoners from mainland France and later other French colonies providing cheap labour by working off their sentences by building up the colony of French Louisiana.

 

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Spanish And Portuguese Empires In The Americas​

The Spanish and Portuguese colonies in South America had very diverse landscapes from tropical rainforests and deserts in the Northern part of South America to the grasslands and the woodlands in the Southern cone and Patagonia regions. The Spanish and Portuguese basically viewed their colonies as economic assets rather than places to settle because the Spanish and the Portuguese established colonies in the Americas for almost entirely economic and religious reasons such as extracting from the natural resources such as gold and silver from mines, Establishing plantations that produced mostly sugar and coffee, and converting local natives sometimes and often forcibly to Catholicism under the Spanish inquisition.

At first the Spanish and Portuguese never really intended or cared about settling any of their colonies with white settlers in the Americas like the British did in North America. But in this alternate timeline where the countries in the Americas never gained independence from the country they were a colony of whether that would be Britain, France, Spain, or Portugal. Rather the countries that controlled them held better control of their colonies with an example being that Napoleon who would never come to power in France and would just be a high ranking French military general in this alternate timeline which would mean that the Peninsular wars would of never of happened and Spain and Portugal aren’t invaded by the French which meant that the revolutionaries in Central and South America never would find a perfect opportunity to rebel against either Spain or Portugal and gain independence like they did in our timeline.

With the Spanish and Portuguese viewing their colonies as economic assets in both this alternate timeline as well as our timeline it is likely by the time in which when slavery ends in both the Spanish and Portuguese colonies as well as the time of industrialization. The Spanish and the Portuguese would industrialize the South American continent and create settler colonies based in the southern cone of South America in this alternate timeline because the southern cone of South America would be a perfect place for sustaining white european settlement in the Americas due to how similar the climate and the geography would be to that of Europe and how fertile the farmland would be as well with places such as the Pampas Grassland being some of the most fertile farmland on earth.

The Spanish and the Portuguese considering blacks and indigenous peoples inferior would pass policies and laws which would disenfranchise them in the Spanish and Portuguese colonies in the Americas and would impose a system similar to that of our timelines apartheid or segregation and possibly even reservations for minorities such as blacks and indigenous peoples would likely be instituted. They would exist in places that would otherwise be unhealthy for white European settlement such as places that have tropical climates or any other climates that aren’t fit for European settlement such as the Caribbean and some parts of Central and South America which can’t sustain European settlement without tropical medicine would possibly have reservations on them. In South America places that are in the southern cone region such as the Spanish colony of Rio de la Plata and southern Peru as well as southern Brazil would be reserved for white settlement by the Spanish and Portuguese.