Should we change this title to "The Big 4 comics industry"

  • Yes

    Votes: 5 38.5%
  • Yes but it will have to change when Image comics is formed?

    Votes: 3 23.1%
  • No Fawcett comics survives is a good title

    Votes: 6 46.2%

  • Total voters
    13
  • Poll closed .
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With Columbia pictures not being intrested in leasing any other superhero other than Spiderman Stan Lee had successfully leased four of Atlas comics superhero Properties to Universal studios.
The head of Universals TV department brought all four projects to there TV Golden boy Kenneth Johnson the showrunner of Six million dollar man & Bionic Woman who dismissed them all as benief him, however after reading Les Miserables Johnson believed that the Incredible Hulk could be adapted into something more mature about a Widower who is on the run
Problems in production became admediant from the start as Johnson worked on changes Bill Bixby was cast as Dr. David Banner (his name was changed because Johnson thought Bruce was a Homosexual name..let's move on) rewritten as a widower who studying fight of flight responses indousing him with gamma radiation to increase his hidden strength with the sideaffect of that when he became enraged or fustrated turns into the Hulk.
Arnold Schwarzenegger had been Johnson's first choice however he was already locked in a contract with Universal studios long delayed Conan the barbarian and could not accept the role and suggested his bodybuilding rival Lou Ferrigno as a replacement.
Mark Hamall had been cast as Banners only allie on his quest, the Teenage runaway Rick Jones however his casting in the 20th Century Fox's movie Star Wars ment he had to drop out of one and he eventually decided on risking an establish character role for a lead role in a Scifi movie. Jack Calvin was cast as FBI agent Kyle Tabot searching for the monster.
And finally Richard Kiel from The Spy Who loved me was cast as the giant Red Monster The Hulk.
Kenneth Johnson was starting on the pilot when one of the Producers came with his son on set and changes had to be made as the producers child was confused as this didn't look anything like the Hulk. Johnson tried to explain that Hulk being Green was stupid and artistically should be red.
The Producer informed Johnson that if his son knew this didn't look anything like the show we promised then the TV viewers would notice as well and if he didn't change this problem he would pull the funding.
With this ultimatum Richard Kiel was replaced by Bodybuilder Lou Ferrigno as the GREEN monster Incredible Hulk
 
Soo, who would be more of an icon at this time. Capt. Marvel or Superman? Keeping in mind that Marvel has a huge fanbase on both sides of the Atlantic.
 
Soo, who would be more of an icon at this time. Capt. Marvel or Superman? Keeping in mind that Marvel has a huge fanbase on both sides of the Atlantic.
Comic book wise Captain Marvel, however because Superman got to the big & small Screen first Superman is more known to the Normies
 
Comic book wise Captain Marvel, however because Superman got to the big & small Screen first Superman is more known to the Normies

Eh, maybe someday in the future, Billy will get his own movie. I take it his power set has changed over time to make him stand out from Supes more?
 
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With a growing fanbase Atlas comics worked with Curtis Magazine to make some Adult orianted comic magazines in the vane of Warren publishing Vampirella comics in Atlas comics Preview, Deadly hands of Kung fu, and Rampaging Hulk. With the premiere of the Amazing Spider-man and Incredible Hulk TV series Atlas comics preview focuses on stories based on the Spiderman TV series while Rampaging Hulk was retitled The Hulk and and telling the exploits of Dr. David Banner both series would be more adult in nature with excessive violence and sexual situations and without the use of other Superheroes or costumed villains.
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With a growing fanbase Atlas comics worked with Curtis Magazine to make some Adult orianted comic magazines in the vane of Harris comics Vampirella in Atlas comics Preview, Deadly hands of Kung fu, and Rampaging Hulk. With the premiere of the Amazing Spider-man and Incredible Hulk TV series Atlas comics preview focuses on stories based on the Spiderman TV series while Rampaging Hulk was retitled The Hulk and and telling the exploits of Dr. David Banner both series would be more adult in nature with excessive violence and sexual situations and without the use of other Superheroes or costumed villains.
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It was Warren Publishing who did Vampirella at the time, Harris wouldn't get the property until the 1990s. Is that Corba that Spider-Man's fighting?
 
I feel sorry for Richard Kiel not getting a shot at being the Hulk- perhaps they can use him for guest monsters? Or indeed create a second 'evil' Red Hulk for Banner Hulk to battle? There was a 2nd Hulk in the show for a while as I recall.

Is Lee/Atlas not looking to join up their shows in some sort of coherent fashion or are they simply shopping them to whomever will buy? Is this the same with the cartoons? Does seem to limit crossover (and cross marketing (see the recent Star Wars for examples of Marketing) potential).
 
Ted Cassidy who best known for playing Lurch on the Adam Family did voice work on the Hulk .
He did the opening narration and did the roars for the Hulk.
 
I feel sorry for Richard Kiel not getting a shot at being the Hulk- perhaps they can use him for guest monsters? Or indeed create a second 'evil' Red Hulk for Banner Hulk to battle? There was a 2nd Hulk in the show for a while as I recall.

Is Lee/Atlas not looking to join up their shows in some sort of coherent fashion or are they simply shopping them to whomever will buy? Is this the same with the cartoons? Does seem to limit crossover (and cross marketing (see the recent Star Wars for examples of Marketing) potential).
For the Hulk I basically used the history from OTL which Stan Lee went to Colombia to pitch Spiderman with the idea that he could convince them to adapt other comic properties but Columbia was adamant that they were not interested in any other property besides Spiderman.
As for Richard Kiel he'll be find. But I don't think he will replace Dick Durock .
It was Warren Publishing who did Vampirella at the time, Harris wouldn't get the property until the 1990s. Is that Corba that Spider-Man's fighting?
My bad it's been fixed and yes I found a drawing of the 70's Spiderman and I pasted it on an Earl Norem GI Joe painting but IOTL it's some klan inspired terrorist
 
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In January of 1978 Captain America 217 introduced SHIELD agent Wendel Vaughan who after a series of events granted the alien gauntlets of Atlas comics 1950s hero Marvel Boy
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Agent Vaughn would be instrumental is discovering the frozen 3-D man with Captain America, helping to Join the All new all different All Winners Squadron as Star Brand
 
i know this might be a bit munch but could you put up a list of the superhero titles Charlton are publishing in 1978. sorry if that is too munch but I am curious, thank you for you time.
 
i know this might be a bit munch but could you put up a list of the superhero titles Charlton are publishing in 1978. sorry if that is too munch but I am curious, thank you for you time.
Blue BeetleThe Phantom (from Kings features)
Peter Cannon: DaredevilGhost Tales (featuring Zora the Mystic)
PeacemakerRomance Heroes (featuring Purple Tigress, & Nightshade)
YangPopeye (from King features)
Black LightningSon of Vulcan
Captain AtomSpace wars
Shade: the Changing manMan from Atlantis
Electra Woman & DynaGirl Fighting Marines
Six million dollar manFlash Gordon (from Kings Features)
Bionic WomanMonster Hunters
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PSX_20200530_134704.jpgWith Hanna-Barbera deciding to not to make a Superfriends seryin 1978 due to Warner Brothers Superman the Movie coming out and Filmmation deal with CBS forcing them give away their licence for Batman away, Jack Ruby & Ken Spears found themselves in the position to get ahold of Batman for the first Cartoon series of their new company Ruby-Spears production. As a way of differencing this show from Filmmation's Batman or Hanna Barbara's Superfriends Batman Jack Ruby tried to get ahold of the Actors from the live action TV show implying that it's a continuation of that series. With only Adam West, Burt Ward, Frank Gorshan, and Ceasar Romario available to reprise their role
Adam West Bruce Wayne/Batman
Burt Ward Dick Grayson/Robin
Jerry Dexter Commissioner Gordon , Man bat
Frank Welker Penguin, Clayface, Batmite,
B.J WardBatgirl/Barbera Gordon , Catwoman/Selina Kyle
Frank GorshanRidder
Peter Cullen Two-Face, Mr. Freeze, Moonman
Don MesekScarecrow , Alfred Penniworth
Ceasar Romario Joker
 
Blue BeetleThe Phantom (from Kings features)Peter Cannon: DaredevilGhost Tales (featuring Zora the Mystic)PeacemakerRomance Heroes (featuring Purple Tigress, & Nightshade)YangPopeye (from King features)Black LightningSon of VulcanCaptain AtomSpace warsShade: the Changing manMan from AtlantisElectra Woman & DynaGirl Fighting MarinesSix million dollar manFlash Gordon (from Kings Features)Bionic WomanMonster Hunters

just out of interest, what about that JLA like team you talked about some time ago. still thank you for the list and could you do something simler for Fawcett at some point,. thank you very much for you time and effect on this tl.
 
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In March of 1978 after the two successful What if camics showcasing the Superheroes prior to the Fantastic four Roy Thomas was able to convince new editor Jim Shooter to to relaunch the All Winners squad with John Byrne. The new team consisted of
  • 3-D Man : Charlie Chandler defrost hero of the 1950s
  • Living Diamond: Jeff Hudson
  • Human Torch II : Johnny Storm (this would be used to separate him from the Fantastic four to not confuse the cartoon watchers)
  • Gorilla Man II : Walter Jorkaphshi
  • Angel II : Warren Worthington III
  • Ms America: Sharon Carter
  • Jocasta
  • Star brand : Wendel Vaughan
  • Quicksilver: Petro Maximoff
 
Now that is an interesting team- wonder whom leads it?

Torch is a good Choice due to experience, but he’s not the most level headed chap at times- unless he’s shown as more responsible here?
 
Now that is an interesting team- wonder whom leads it?

Torch is a good Choice due to experience, but he’s not the most level headed chap at times- unless he’s shown as more responsible here?
Well it was going to be 3-D man but having Johnny Storm be leader might mature him enough to warrant his own TV show
 
Blue BeetleThe Phantom (from Kings features)
Peter Cannon: DaredevilGhost Tales (featuring Zora the Mystic)
PeacemakerRomance Heroes (featuring Purple Tigress, & Nightshade)
YangPopeye (from King features)
Black LightningSon of Vulcan
Captain AtomSpace wars
Shade: the Changing manMan from Atlantis
Electra Woman & DynaGirlFighting Marines
Six million dollar manFlash Gordon (from Kings Features)
Bionic WomanMonster Hunters
Mandrake the Magician was still being published in Newspapers .
Why was Charlton not doing a Comic Book for him?
 
With Hanna-Barbera deciding to not to make a Superfriends seryin 1978 due to Warner Brothers Superman the Movie coming out and Filmmation deal with CBS forcing them give away their licence for Batman away, Jack Ruby & Ken Spears found themselves in the position to get ahold of Batman for the first Cartoon series of their new company Ruby-Spears production. As a way of differencing this show from Filmmation's Batman or Hanna Barbara's Superfriends Batman Jack Ruby tried to get ahold of the Actors from the live action TV show implying that it's a continuation of that series. With only Adam West, Burt Ward, Frank Gorshan, and Ceasar Romario available to reprise their role
So they keep the Camp style of the 60's TV Shiow?
We did get the Batman by O'Neil and Neil Adam right?
 
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