Should we change this title to "The Big 4 comics industry"

  • Yes

    Votes: 5 38.5%
  • Yes but it will have to change when Image comics is formed?

    Votes: 3 23.1%
  • No Fawcett comics survives is a good title

    Votes: 6 46.2%

  • Total voters
    13
  • Poll closed .
Return of Black Adam
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In the late seventies Ghost Rider had been in a rut during CBS'S ownership Ghost Rider had been canceled to keep the company "family friendly "
With the company loosing CBS'S backing andand going independent Ghost Rider comics were brought back however after awhile Matthew Dunsinane* was used to reintroduce classic heroes of Fawcett's Golden age who were trapped in Limbo but in 1978 Ghost Rider #12 inspired by the appearance of The Master's reappearance in the Doctor Who episode Deadly Assassin Artist George Perez helped Michael Flieisher bring back the obscure Captain Marvel Villain** Black Adam in the Story After Teth Adam turne to dust in his initial appearance his soul was sent to hell where he made a deal with the Ghost Rider villain Brimstone who gave him the new look for a new era terrorizing The Marvel Family
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* Gary Friedrich and Gene Colan created Ghost Rider as Johnny Blaze but Mathew Dubinsane was created by Michael Fleisher and Mike Ploog as Johnny went to Heaven after the end of his original run.
** as far as I can tell Black Adam was used as CMs adversary IOTL when DC got the rights was because Niatpac Levram was too similar to Bizzaro. With Bizarro butterflied away Teth Adam was an obscure one shot villain brought back with a demonic makeover
 
Fawcett and Archie
In 1978 The Charles Fawcett Family made a surprise visit to Marvel Enterprise. The company previously owned by CBS had attempted to bounce back to it's height in the Comic book field but was was barely scrapping third place. The Fawcetts had been starting the Distribution of Archie Comics and set up a proposal Everyone agreed
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Archie Comics Banner would handle the child friendly comics
  • Tippy Teen would join Riverdale,
  • Dennis the Menace
  • Funnyman,
  • Hoppy the Marvel bunny family,
  • as well as any media heroes from Filmmation
Fawcett Enterprise Banner* would get the chance to use the Mighty Crusaders*as well as any Golden age MLJ hero or villain
With C.C Beck & Marylin Binder Still on the board this was an opportunity not to sign on to this collaboration.
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* Yes I was using Crusaders as Fawcett's JL equivalent but since Discovery of Fawcett on some Archie comics from The 70s this was too good to ignore so I'm referring that team to the Squadron from now on
 
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Recap: Queen of Wonder
In 1968 Joe Gill would leave Charlton over desputes with management over stopping stories revolving around Magic. Heading to DC with Artist Dave Cockram, Gardner Fox intrest in Gills work on Son of Vulcan decided he would be a good fit for Wonder Woman paired with artist Mike Serkowsky Diana would find herself as the new Queen of the Amazons forcing her away from Steve Trevor and the Justice League (Black Canary, Hawkwoman, & Batwoman would alternate the female role of the team) this period would be known as the White Queen saga based on her new outfit
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(@nick_crenshaw82 please make a micro hero based on this look)
The Series would be well received with the book introducing New heroes like Peacekeeper and And the New judomaster Mr. Terrific but the new look alienated the normies whom were mainly familiar with her classic look from the Brady kids cartoon & Superfriends, not helped by the fact that the expanded media comic for Superfriends stated that Marvin was the Child of the Real Diana Prince who WW used her identity while she went to find her Husband across enemy lines, a decision that would have Dave Cochram put Martin in the Teen Titans as Wonder boy further causing problems I 1976 ABC had Wonder Woman TV show produced pitched as a combination of Batman and Charlies Angels the show would put her back into her patriotic garb to celebrate the Bicentennial (the idea that if successful would change to her White outfit later on) giving DC the excuse to put Diana at Status quo

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The Series would introduce many of Wonder Woman's rogues to the Small Screen however Wonder boy would not appear instead the first season would introduce a Teenage Amazon Drusilla played Debra Winger aka Wonder Girl . Wonder girl would not appear in comics until 1980 when DC and Warner brothers decided to capitalize on Wingers success in the award winning film An Officer and a Gentleman PSX_20201125_093538.jpg where Drusilla would make her comics debut in Tales of the Teen Titans #1
 
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I can't remember who ended up buying Lev Gleason. Fawcett had a Korean war hero called Bill Battle the One Man Army. I can imagine Marvel attempting to revive him as either an updated Capt. Battle or maybe going with OMAC if Capt. Battle has legal issues. Although i seem to vaguely recall OMAC being discussed earlier.
 
Recap part 4
In the 1970s Inferior 5 creator E. Nelson Bridwell jumped ship to Fawcett to work on The Mighty Isis ,Space Sentinels and other TV based comics. however he found his Strive in the Marvel Bunny universe . Credited with such characters as Bulletmouse, Spy-Rammer, Hisster Scarlet, & The Quailtion amung others these characters would cause C.C Beck to ask him to help bring back some of the their Golden age heroes before they fall into public domain thanks to the Copyright act of 1976
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Bridwell used this opportunity to create an international superhero team he had been working on called sThe Global Guardians. some would join the Sentinel Squadron international
From left to right
  • Dr. Voodoo. Haiti
  • Hunchback * France
  • Red Gaucho. Mexico
  • Owl Woman. USA (Native Reservation)
  • Jack O Lantern. Ireland
  • Green Flame** Brazil
  • Ice maiden. Norway
  • Mermaid. Denmark
  • Red Rover. Canada
  • Bushmaster. Australia
  • Super Samurai *** Japan
  • Godiva. UK
  • Impala Kenya
  • Sephrah. Israel
* Yes we talked about Hunchback being Fawcett's first Black Superhero but I think it would make better since that they would emulate Hunchback of Notre dame now that doesn't mean Victors succor in the 80s-90s couldn't be African American
** Green Flame was supposed to be the Golden age Wildfire but with Dave Cochram creating his Wildfire in the Teen Titans a new name was given
*** Super Samurai is taken from the Toho senti series Fighting Samurai Ken (Which was taken from The Fighting Yank)
 
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Why does Godiva represent England and not the actual country of the UK?

At least there seems to be an equal amount of skin showing in this team line up.
 
Dazzler and the Atlas civil war
Dazzler and the coming of the Atlas Civil War
In 1978 Stan Lee and Jim Shooter met with Casablanca records to collaborate on a Disco themed Superhero with the possibility of producing an animated special if not a feature film.
Jim Shooter put together an all star team in the industry to work on the Character with the idea that the character going From Disco Queen to Dazzler as Suggested by John Rometta would be a young musician Alice Blair empowered with light and sound by muses.
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(Original sketch of Dazzler before Casablanca records announced sent the memo that Bo Derek was interested)
As the negotiations were going back and forth Atlas comics found their contract with with Casablanca records and their company Filmworks to Columbia pictures who were eager to come up with a rival to 1980's comic book movie boom thanks to the upcoming Superman 2, Flash Gordon and Popeye were willing to negotiate with Jon Dereks who would have Nancy Walker to co direct as John Derek had never done musicals (and to keep it PG) and agree to the script by Jim Shooter & Alan Carr.*
Jim Shooter wanted Dazzler to be introduced in the upcoming Defenders storyline Dark Phoenix saga** but Columbia ordered a cease and desist order as Hulk and Dr Strange were adapted by Universal studios and strongly suggested that Dazzler should appear with Spider-man.
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The message was clear until the movie leaves theaters (1980-1981) Dazzler and Spiderman would not interact with the Defenders or The Human Torch ***
* if a movie says written by & instead of "and" it means someone came in to take over the script not a collaboration
** X-men have not had their own title since 72 and IOTL Clea has the Phoenix force. It will be my next post.
*** Universal is trying to figure out how to make a Human Torch series along with other projects which caused Scott & Jean to join the Fantastic four in the first place IOTL They might succeed
 
Dazzler movie?

Ok, that’s an odd character choice, but I can see the way to trends and Bo Derek is solid casting.

The paragraph under the first pic reads a little confusingly btw.

Interesting there are so many studios getting involved with the Atlas characters, you’d think Stan Lee would only want 1 or 2 so a ‘universe’ could be built like he did in the comics.
 
Dazzler movie?

Ok, that’s an odd character choice, but I can see the way to trends and Bo Derek is solid casting.

The paragraph under the first pic reads a little confusingly btw.

Interesting there are so many studios getting involved with the Atlas characters, you’d think Stan Lee would only want 1 or 2 so a ‘universe’ could be built like he did in the comics.
This was the case IOTL infact Jim Shooter wrote a script and originally did commissioned his artist to make her Black originally but had it changed when Bo Derek did express interest in the project.
But IOTL the Studio lost interest when Derek demanded that her husband direct or she walks. And Jim dumped his character into the first issue of The Dark Phoenix Saga
ITTL we butterfly away Can't Stop the music
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Oh Marvel was the plucky underdog company that made big and as a result would make deals with Studios that would pay for whatever characters
Universal paid for the likeness of 7 Marvel properties IOTL (&This one as well) The ones we know about are
  • Hulk
  • Doctor Strange
  • Captain America (with the success of Strange a Cap TV show or movie will be pushed to the 80s)
  • Human Torch
While Columbia was only interested in Spider-man and their record company did suggest a Disco themed Heroine.
 
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Atlas comics Recap?
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TV guide promoting CBS's Dr. Strange TV series (1979-1981) based on the Atlas comics of the same name the show would be described in it's day as Quincy ME meets Night Gallery.
With the Incredible Hulk (Bill Bixby & Lou Ferrigno guest started in the first season) and Strange both becoming house household names The Defenders would shoot up in popularity rivaling Fantastic four as the premiere Superhero team for Atlas comics
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Though the Show was short lived mainly due to the satanic panic of the 80s (TV evangelist would use the Doctor as a target well after its cancelation)
The show would cause both DC and Fawcett to dust off their own Wizard heroes and give Doctor Fate and Ibis the invincible there own titles again
 
Well I was planning on keeping Peter Horton
But I am open to a second pilot with a different lead who do you suggest?
Robert Urich, Patrick Duffy, James Brolin, Robert Conrad ?
James Brolin be a good choice.
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One of the Things that really bugged me was that Horton look like Strange in this outfit but that the Pilot movies had him end up in a pair of tights at the end when he becomes the Sorcerer Supreme at the end which look really silly

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Fawcett comics survives
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As part of the collaboration between the Fawcett and Archie 1979 pitched a crossover by Dan DeCarlo and C. C Beck showed the teens of Riverdale and the Marvel family as Mr. Mind took control of the Riverdale residence Resulting in a teamup of Captain Marvel and Pureheart the Powerful. The result of said crossover would change Betty Coopers identity from Super-teen to Marvel-girl
 
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