When you Wish Upon a Frog (Book II of the Jim Henson at Disney saga)
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Not just a good crossover idea:
But also a good suggestion for who could do the dubbing of the original.
But also a good suggestion for who could do the dubbing of the original.
Not sure if Pete would willingly team up with Mickey. Other than that oversight, this is a great idea all around.Not just a good crossover idea:
But also a good suggestion for who could do the dubbing of the original.
Perhaps not but I mainly posted this to suggest that Disney could be the main English dubber for the Asterix animated films:
List of Asterix films - Wikipedia
I thought so, given what you had under that cover.Perhaps not but I mainly posted this to suggest that Disney could be the main English dubber for the Asterix animated films:
List of Asterix films - Wikipedia
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And for what it's worth, Disney IOTL did try and make Marsupilami a household name in the 90s. Sure, that plan backfired and blew up in their faces simultaneously, but it's the ambitions that count.
Maybe they decide to do the same with Asterix instead ITTL.
Maybe Ocean studios in Vancouver canadaNot just a good crossover idea:
But also a good suggestion for who could do the dubbing of the original.
BTW I would be very interested what will happen with Dragonball ITTL.
Maybe Universal pictures can have that and dub it in either Miami or Calgary
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Murphy Outed as Trek Director!
From Entertainment Weekly, September 19th, 1992
(Image source “democratlive.com”)
Los Angeles – Are you a fan of Star Trek: The Next Generation? Did you love “The Andorian Shuffle”[1] or “The Lasting Limits of Logic”? Well, have we got a surprise for you! Observant Trekkies may have noticed that these two episodes, among others this last season, were directed by “Murphy Edwards”, who also has a story credit on both “Shuffle” and “Logic”. Well, guess what: Murphy Edwards is none other than comedian and movie star Eddie Murphy! Yes, the celebrated A-lister has secretly been directing some of your favorite episodes alongside Jonathan Frakes and other cast-directors. Long known to be a Trekkie himself, Murphy starred in Star Trek IV alongside William Shatner and had an important cameo in Star Trek V. As such, it should be no surprise that he’d want to be involved in the popular television reboot. And given the second-class status of the small screen when compared to the big, you can understand why he’d hide his contributions behind a nom de plume.
Murphy in a Cameo in Season 2 (Image source Reddit)
While rumors of Murphy’s contributions in the series have circulated in the fandom for a while, exclusive leaked set photos and anonymous interviews by EW have revealed the truth behind the rumors. The staff here at EW are certain that he’s using the opportunity to hone his directorial skills, which were savaged following his box office flop The Cotton Club. But behind the scenes, the buzz is that this television sandbox is just what he needed. “He’s a delight to work with,” said one anonymous cast member, “and a skilled director. Great with the talent and crew alike.” Will this small-screen success translate back to the big screen, or will this “outing” doom Murphy with the stink of television? That remains to be seen. Until then, keep an eye out for “Murphy Edwards” in the credits of your next Trek episode.
Tensions Escalate in former Soviet Union
The New York Times, October 7th, 1992
Ethnic and political tensions continue to escalate across the Union of Sovereign States (USS; also known as the Union of Sovereign Republics, or USR, and CCC in Cyrillic), the federated union of nine former Soviet Republics and numerous smaller ethnic autonomous zones. The secession and attempted secession of many former Soviet Republics, exacerbated by ethnic, religious, historic, and strategic concerns, have led to unrest that threatens to spill out into the larger world, with some fearing that unsecured nuclear weapons could fall into dangerous hands.
Tempers continue to escalate in the east Baltic Sea as talks broke down between the USS Federal Government and the three former Soviet Republics of Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania. The three small states, which have their own history and culture, have long sought independence from the USSR and its Tsarist predecessor. All three have declared full independence and continue to rebuff advances by the USS to join the new Federal Union as member states.
The three Baltic Republics, which control the majority of access to the eastern Baltic Sea, also cut the USS off from its Kaliningrad Oblast, which represents the USS’s second most critical Baltic Sea port after St. Petersburg (formerly Leningrad). Talks to determine USS transit rights to and from the Kaliningrad Oblast have stalled, complicated further by ongoing efforts by the Baltic Republics to join NATO and the European Community, moves seen by Moscow as a strategic threat.
Similar tensions are persisting in the oil-rich State of Azerbaijan, which has remained in the Union but which for ethnic and religious reasons has a strong internal secessionist movement. Accounting for a large part of USS petroleum reserves, the loss of the State would have severe economic consequences were it to leave. Tensions between Azerbaijan and the neighboring Republic of Armenia, which did not join the USS, are exacerbated by territorial disputes that have led to sporadic violence, particularly in and around the heavily Armenian Autonomous Oblast of Nagorno-Karabakh.
Religious and cultural issues also plague many of the former Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republics, recently redesignated Autonomous Republics (AR) by Moscow[2]. For example, in the AR of Checheno-Ingush the populous is divided between those who seek greater autonomy within the USS and those who demand full independence. Former Soviet Air Force General turned Chetnik politician Dzhokhar Dudayev is demanding that the AR be made a full Sovereign State with co-equal status to the other nine USS States[3]. Protests in Grozny turned violent with many arrests made. The region, which borders Azerbaijan and the newly independent Republic of Georgia, is adding to the ongoing regional ethno-religious tensions.
Meanwhile, the Central Asian States of Turkmenistan, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, and Kazakhstan, which have historical ethnic and territorial tensions of their own, are suffering from a refugee influx with fears of increasing regional violence due to continued internecine conflict in neighboring Afghanistan. With the feared rise of militant extremism in Afghanistan and with several thousand Soviet-era nuclear weapons suspected to still be located in the Central Asian USS States, world leaders have expressed “grave concerns” with the potential for such powerful weapons to fall into the hands of non-State actors[4].
US President George Bush was joined by President Elect Albert Gore in calling for calm. The US has been joined by the UK, France, and Germany in an offer to help negotiate tensions. USS President Gorbachev has so far resisted calls for external arbitration, but agreed to a multilateral meeting in Geneva this November to assure UN leaders that the internal strife will not bleed over into neighboring countries. UN Secretary-General Boutros…Cont’d on A2.
US Troops arrive in Somalia
Washington Post, December 4th, 1992
Outgoing President George Bush today announced the deployment of US military forces to the East African nation of Somalia. Dubbed Operation Restore Hope, the US forces will be tasked with reinforcing UNOSOM forces in order to maintain ceasefire in the war-torn nation and ensure that humanitarian aid gets to those who need it. Ongoing hoarding and belligerent actions by Somali warlords continue to hamper UN efforts in this regard, and it is hoped that the US forces will provide the stabilizing force necessary to finally enforce UN aims.
“We do not foresee major combat,” said President Bush. “Instead, our fighting men and women will simply be there to maintain the peace and restore hope and humanitarian aid to those who need it.”
Critics have expressed cynicism to the US involvement, with some claiming that the US plans to use their presence to gain concessions for US Oil Companies in the nation, which contains noteworthy reserves in the northern Somaliland region. Bush denies that this is the case, maintaining that the troops are there only to maintain the peace and enforce the UN mandate.
In an interview with the Post, US General…Cont’ on A3.
[1] Alas, no Andorians appear in this episode (’92 is still too early for audiences to accept Blue Aliens again). Instead, it involved Riker and the crew running a long con to claim a MacGuffin from a troupe of Ferengi.
[2] The “Autonomous Republic” designation covers all of the old ASSRs. The USR also still retains the various strange historic cultural-regional designations like Krais and Okrugs and Federal Cities that have rough equivalence to a Russian Oblast in terms of internal authority and sovereignty and power. Autonomous Oblasts remain as culturally-unique Oblasts with special cultural rights and autonomy similar to their equivalents under the USSR. It remains a complex and Byzantine system of subtle differences in laws and rights that will continue to confound outsiders and complicate internal politics and economics, but resistance to change and the possible loss of special (often cultural) rights under the current system will hamper attempts to streamline it into a simple three-tier system of Oblast-Republic-State. Krais, Okrugs, and AOs have the right to apply for AR status and numerous ARs have been pushing for the right for ARs to apply for full Sovereign State status.
[3] He reportedly was pushing for the ASSR to be made a full Soviet Republic in the late 1980s, but moved towards pressing for full secession and independence in the wake of the failed 1991 coup attempt and its chaotic aftermath. Here the apparently stronger USS government means that he’s (at least for the moment) hedging his bets and continuing to pushing for Sovereign State status.
[4] Don’t you just love these Utopian Timelines?
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Murphy Outed as Trek Director!
From Entertainment Weekly, September 19th, 1992
(Image source “democratlive.com”)
Los Angeles – Are you a fan of Star Trek: The Next Generation? Did you love “The Andorian Shuffle”[1] or “The Lasting Limits of Logic”? Well, have we got a surprise for you! Observant Trekkies may have noticed that these two episodes, among others this last season, were directed by “Murphy Edwards”, who also has a story credit on both “Shuffle” and “Logic”. Well, guess what: Murphy Edwards is none other than comedian and movie star Eddie Murphy! Yes, the celebrated A-lister has secretly been directing some of your favorite episodes alongside Jonathan Frakes and other cast-directors. Long known to be a Trekkie himself, Murphy starred in Star Trek IV alongside William Shatner and had an important cameo in Star Trek V. As such, it should be no surprise that he’d want to be involved in the popular television reboot. And given the second-class status of the small screen when compared to the big, you can understand why he’d hide his contributions behind a nom de plume.
Murphy in a Cameo in Season 2 (Image source Reddit)
While rumors of Murphy’s contributions in the series have circulated in the fandom for a while, exclusive leaked set photos and anonymous interviews by EW have revealed the truth behind the rumors. The staff here at EW are certain that he’s using the opportunity to hone his directorial skills, which were savaged following his box office flop The Cotton Club. But behind the scenes, the buzz is that this television sandbox is just what he needed. “He’s a delight to work with,” said one anonymous cast member, “and a skilled director. Great with the talent and crew alike.” Will this small-screen success translate back to the big screen, or will this “outing” doom Murphy with the stink of television? That remains to be seen. Until then, keep an eye out for “Murphy Edwards” in the credits of your next Trek episode.
Tensions Escalate in former Soviet Union
The New York Times, October 7th, 1992
Ethnic and political tensions continue to escalate across the Union of Sovereign States (USS; also known as the Union of Sovereign Republics, or USR, and CCC in Cyrillic), the federated union of nine former Soviet Republics and numerous smaller ethnic autonomous zones. The secession and attempted secession of many former Soviet Republics, exacerbated by ethnic, religious, historic, and strategic concerns, have led to unrest that threatens to spill out into the larger world, with some fearing that unsecured nuclear weapons could fall into dangerous hands.
Tempers continue to escalate in the east Baltic Sea as talks broke down between the USS Federal Government and the three former Soviet Republics of Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania. The three small states, which have their own history and culture, have long sought independence from the USSR and its Tsarist predecessor. All three have declared full independence and continue to rebuff advances by the USS to join the new Federal Union as member states.
The three Baltic Republics, which control the majority of access to the eastern Baltic Sea, also cut the USS off from its Kaliningrad Oblast, which represents the USS’s second most critical Baltic Sea port after St. Petersburg (formerly Leningrad). Talks to determine USS transit rights to and from the Kaliningrad Oblast have stalled, complicated further by ongoing efforts by the Baltic Republics to join NATO and the European Community, moves seen by Moscow as a strategic threat.
Similar tensions are persisting in the oil-rich State of Azerbaijan, which has remained in the Union but which for ethnic and religious reasons has a strong internal secessionist movement. Accounting for a large part of USS petroleum reserves, the loss of the State would have severe economic consequences were it to leave. Tensions between Azerbaijan and the neighboring Republic of Armenia, which did not join the USS, are exacerbated by territorial disputes that have led to sporadic violence, particularly in and around the heavily Armenian Autonomous Oblast of Nagorno-Karabakh.
Religious and cultural issues also plague many of the former Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republics, recently redesignated Autonomous Republics (AR) by Moscow[2]. For example, in the AR of Checheno-Ingush the populous is divided between those who seek greater autonomy within the USS and those who demand full independence. Former Soviet Air Force General turned Chetnik politician Dzhokhar Dudayev is demanding that the AR be made a full Sovereign State with co-equal status to the other nine USS States[3]. Protests in Grozny turned violent with many arrests made. The region, which borders Azerbaijan and the newly independent Republic of Georgia, is adding to the ongoing regional ethno-religious tensions.
Meanwhile, the Central Asian States of Turkmenistan, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, and Kazakhstan, which have historical ethnic and territorial tensions of their own, are suffering from a refugee influx with fears of increasing regional violence due to continued internecine conflict in neighboring Afghanistan. With the feared rise of militant extremism in Afghanistan and with several thousand Soviet-era nuclear weapons suspected to still be located in the Central Asian USS States, world leaders have expressed “grave concerns” with the potential for such powerful weapons to fall into the hands of non-State actors[4].
US President George Bush was joined by President Elect Albert Gore in calling for calm. The US has been joined by the UK, France, and Germany in an offer to help negotiate tensions. USS President Gorbachev has so far resisted calls for external arbitration, but agreed to a multilateral meeting in Geneva this November to assure UN leaders that the internal strife will not bleed over into neighboring countries. UN Secretary-General Boutros…Cont’d on A2.
US Troops arrive in Somalia
Washington Post, December 4th, 1992
Outgoing President George Bush today announced the deployment of US military forces to the East African nation of Somalia. Dubbed Operation Restore Hope, the US forces will be tasked with reinforcing UNOSOM forces in order to maintain ceasefire in the war-torn nation and ensure that humanitarian aid gets to those who need it. Ongoing hoarding and belligerent actions by Somali warlords continue to hamper UN efforts in this regard, and it is hoped that the US forces will provide the stabilizing force necessary to finally enforce UN aims.
“We do not foresee major combat,” said President Bush. “Instead, our fighting men and women will simply be there to maintain the peace and restore hope and humanitarian aid to those who need it.”
Critics have expressed cynicism to the US involvement, with some claiming that the US plans to use their presence to gain concessions for US Oil Companies in the nation, which contains noteworthy reserves in the northern Somaliland region. Bush denies that this is the case, maintaining that the troops are there only to maintain the peace and enforce the UN mandate.
In an interview with the Post, US General…Cont’ on A3.
[1] Alas, no Andorians appear in this episode (’92 is still too early for audiences to accept Blue Aliens again). Instead, it involved Riker and the crew running a long con to claim a MacGuffin from a troupe of Ferengi.
[2] The “Autonomous Republic” designation covers all of the old ASSRs. The USR also still retains the various strange historic cultural-regional designations like Krais and Okrugs and Federal Cities that have rough equivalence to a Russian Oblast in terms of internal authority and sovereignty and power. Autonomous Oblasts remain as culturally-unique Oblasts with special cultural rights and autonomy similar to their equivalents under the USSR. It remains a complex and Byzantine system of subtle differences in laws and rights that will continue to confound outsiders and complicate internal politics and economics, but resistance to change and the possible loss of special (often cultural) rights under the current system will hamper attempts to streamline it into a simple three-tier system of Oblast-Republic-State. Krais, Okrugs, and AOs have the right to apply for AR status and numerous ARs have been pushing for the right for ARs to apply for full Sovereign State status.
[3] He reportedly was pushing for the ASSR to be made a full Soviet Republic in the late 1980s, but moved towards pressing for full secession and independence in the wake of the failed 1991 coup attempt and its chaotic aftermath. Here the apparently stronger USS government means that he’s (at least for the moment) hedging his bets and continuing to pushing for Sovereign State status.
[4] Don’t you just love these Utopian Timelines?
Well Bush is trying to maintain the Timeline.
That this is even legal, starting a war when you are going to leave the White House. However maybe Gore's green politics will make staying for the oil less popular and the US will actually do what they are supposed to be there.
In better news Eddie Murphy's involvement with television and the high caliber of guest stars on Young Indiana Jones might make television more appealing to the big names.
Maybe we can see some epic television series in the future.
Great chapter @Geekhis Khan
That this is even legal, starting a war when you are going to leave the White House. However maybe Gore's green politics will make staying for the oil less popular and the US will actually do what they are supposed to be there.
In better news Eddie Murphy's involvement with television and the high caliber of guest stars on Young Indiana Jones might make television more appealing to the big names.
Maybe we can see some epic television series in the future.
Great chapter @Geekhis Khan
Oh I do, it means plenty of folks can get such weapons on the black market.
Especially the “suitcase bombs” which folks here in our world were worried about after the end of the Cold War.
Remember in OTL we came scarily close to the Cali cartel getting a nuclear powered submarine for drug smuggling, and with 46,000 nuclear weapons at their peak in 1986 the soviets had a lot of bombs, a lot of them were lower yield nuclear tube artillery.
The main issue is the lightest warheads on both sides is about 50 kilos which usually lines up with weight of 155mm/152mm artillery shells. It is feasible for bombs to be smuggled to say anyone from a religious extremist (Not singling only Islamic extremists here... the Doomsday cults of the 1990s), rogue states, terrorists, and others.
So yeah nuclear terrorism is gonna be something everyone is scared of as will be the Soviets vast chemical and biological arsenals.
I do hope nothing happens. Aum Shinrikyo did have a large explosion on the Australian ranch they owned in 1993, they also tested Sarin there, that is something they proved happened.
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Changing gears, I hope Estonia does well. They were sort of the television film capital of the USSR after the Russians invaded, they also could get illegal TV signals from Finland.
I mean they filmed plenty of sequences for Chris Nolan’s confusing film Tennet there. The locals were like, big movie movie money? Yes please.
The HBO miniseries Chernobyl was filmed in Lithuania so there could be a future of filming there.
This really isn't any different from OTL except that the "Soviet" state is stronger and probably better able to control nuclear material than IOTL (still problematic, but not as much). I would expect a large amount of effort from the United States to prevent weapons from getting out of the USS, including both direct measures like buying nuclear material to keep the nuclear infrastructure gainfully employed (hence less likely to slip away) and reduce the number of weapons floating around and indirect measures like bringing the USS into the ISS program to keep rocket engineers similarly gainfully employed. This was a huge foreign policy thing in the 1990s IOTL, it'll be the same here.
I agree.
The harder part is the more flood conventional arms. The Russians will open their arsenals of AK-74, AK-74Us, T-72s, T-62s, BMPs, BTRs, Hind helicopter gunships, Kilo Class Submarines, MIG-27s, and countless other conventional weapons. Even if the flood is not as bad as it was in our 1990s it still will be a massive glut of former soviet weapons on the white, grey, and black markets. Anyone and everyone from the PRC and India to Libya, Angola, Iran, Iraq, and North Korea will try to buy them. And that’s just countries. Warlords, drug lords, terrorists, cults, and others will buy these guns.
What a lovely start to the new year.
Eddie directing, if under a nom de plume? Interesting, especially in regards to how it comes as away of gaining experience in it after his last film bombed.
Situations seem rather troubling in USR and Somalia so far, especially as far as weapons on the markets legal and illegal. However, I'm honestly more worried for how the US could handle it, even with Gore on board.
Also, with the nation better able to deal with illegal firearms, how will this affect criminal groups and militias in it and beyond? Perhaps they could be weakened?
Eddie directing, if under a nom de plume? Interesting, especially in regards to how it comes as away of gaining experience in it after his last film bombed.
Situations seem rather troubling in USR and Somalia so far, especially as far as weapons on the markets legal and illegal. However, I'm honestly more worried for how the US could handle it, even with Gore on board.
Exactly what I mean. Thankfully, I just hope Gore cancels this plan should this be the case.
Also, with the nation better able to deal with illegal firearms, how will this affect criminal groups and militias in it and beyond? Perhaps they could be weakened?
Ooh, interesting.
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