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, we have plenty of land in Siberia, the Finns wouldn't tell the difference, as in both places there is plenty of snow Our Soviet Union (USSR)
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, we have plenty of land in Siberia, the Finns wouldn't tell the difference, as in both places there is plenty of snow 
From Frozen Hell:
“To be sure, the Finnish soldier was aware of the numerical odds against him, but he rendered those odds less terrible by cracking jokes about them: “They are so many, and our country is so small, where will we find room to bury them all?”
“One Soviet general, looking at a map of the territory Russia had acquired on the Karelian Isthmus, is said to have remarked: "We have won just about enough ground to bury our dead.”
“To be sure, the Finnish soldier was aware of the numerical odds against him, but he rendered those odds less terrible by cracking jokes about them: “They are so many, and our country is so small, where will we find room to bury them all?”
“One Soviet general, looking at a map of the territory Russia had acquired on the Karelian Isthmus, is said to have remarked: "We have won just about enough ground to bury our dead.”
We shouldn’t be trying to annex Finland if they have no desire to join us. It would be hypocritical and stand against what we believe in.
Then maby we should change that and make ourselves more attractive to them, we have exiled Red Finns and ethnic Finnish regions after all for doing so. ;D
We’re a proud communist nation, not some desperate entitled simp who can’t take no for an answer. XP
It also might be worth it to legalize monarchy in the Soviet Union, a completely powerless monarchy, that is beholden to the will of the people and recallable, but a monarchy nonetheless. Romania, Yugoslavia, Albania, Greece, Bulgaria, Italy, Belgium. Netherlands, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, and Hungary (albeit in name only) have monarchies. Loudly proclaiming death to the monarchs will do nothing but stir up resentment against us in Europe. While we won't restore the Tsar, we can allow the people to have their figurehead serve them. Our Glorious Socialist Republic™ will not destroy the old, but rebuild it for the prosperity of the worker. We will mold monarchy to our image, We've already done so for religion, why not here? Monarchies should also be used for the promotion of the socialist agenda!
Edit 1 : Forgor about the UK and Luxembourg, and that was in Europe alone!
Edit 1 : Forgor about the UK and Luxembourg, and that was in Europe alone!
You get me wrong there friend, I mean build up our side of Finnish Karelia, make it look better then the FInnish side (king of like a reverse Germany or Korea) and thereby increase Finnish willingness to vote Socialist/ Communsit, or outright join us.
While the idea of a Socialsit/ Communist Monarchy was toyed with sime time OTL by some people, here we would put it to the overall vote to see if there would be a support for it. We allready try a similar route were anti.Monarchy rethoric would only get our parties that we support into problems (Middle East, Japan and some in Europe) for example.
While creating more ethnic SSR, should we also push for incorporating ethnic groups of there yet still outside the Soviet Union (looking especially at East Turkey, North Persia, North Afghanistan and West China, like we have done with Eastern Poland to expand Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Turkmenia, Uzbekistan, Tajikstan and Kazakhstan (mostly trough diplomatic economic and other peaceful pressure if possible):
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Ah ok, I think we should temporarily stop supporting communist partisans, except Mexico and China as they're still dealing with the American puppet Mexican Republic and the KMT rebels, so we could weather the eventual Great Depression and be prepared the eventual tension in Europe like a certain far-right organization taking power...
Soviet Finns
Soviet Finns
While the creation of a Karelia ASSR similar to the Volga German one for the Finnish government-in-exile was hotly debated, in the End the Red Finns were allowed to set up the Karelian Soviet Socialist Republic (KSSR), or Finnish Soviet Socialist Republic (FSSR) and Finnish People’s Republic (FPR) and Finnish Socialist Worker’s Republic (FSWR) as part of the Rus Soviet Federation Socialist Union Republic (RSFSUR), also known as Vostokslavia (East Slav, Eastern Slav, or United Eastern Slav). Their capital would be Petrozavodsk and Kullervo Manner, former chairman of the Democratic Socialist Party of Finland and during the Finnish Civil War leader of the Finnish people’s Delegation, co-founder of the Finnish Communist Party, Finnish Red Guards and now a Red Finland. The idea was to build up an ideal Red Finnish Utopia across the border in Karelia and encourage the Finnish people to vote Socialist and Communist Parties to join it in the long run. A model that if successful could be expanded upon the ethnic overlapping borders of the Middle East, South Asia and East Asia as well. Meanwhile the Mutual People’s Assurance Pact was signed by most members of the Socialist International (SolIntern) and the Communist International (ComIntern) to oppose Colonial and Imperialist powers to wage war against it’s members. However especially in Britain and France, as well as Turkey, Persia and the Nationalist Chinese the pact was seen as a Socialist-Communist faction to take over most of their Empries of Nation States trough insurgency and rebellion.
At the same time a branch of the Soviet Union Socialists and Communists, who had been in support of keeping the Czar and the Royal Family as figureheads in a Socialist/ Communist or Soviet Monarchy, were used to create what they called People’s Monarchies, or Socialist Monarchies/ Communist Monarch Movements and Parties in places with larger Monarchist support suspicious of Socialist and Communist Movements and Parties, like the United Kingdom, Romania, Yugoslavia, Albania, Greece, Bulgaria, Italy, Belgium. Netherlands, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Hungary or Luxembourg in Europe alone. Such a blend of People’s Republics with a People’s Monarch were also seen as being more encouraging to some of the Monarchies and Noble Houses in Asia, from Persia, Arabia, over India, China, Korea, Japan, Indochina (Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia), Siam and other local places. Not yet paying off the Japanese General Elections of 1928 resulted in the Japanese United Labor Farmers Party (278.646 votes), the Japanese Social Democratic Party (12,044 votes) and the Japanese Farmers Party (44,000 votes) together as the Japanese People’s Coalition (headed by Christian Socialist and Pacifist Abe Iso gained 11 of 466 seats, far fewer then the Rikken Seiyukai (Association of Friends of Constitutional Government with 216 seats) and the Constitutional Democratic Party (with 215 seats) soon being joined by the Japanese People’s Monarchy Party in their Coalition.
While the creation of a Karelia ASSR similar to the Volga German one for the Finnish government-in-exile was hotly debated, in the End the Red Finns were allowed to set up the Karelian Soviet Socialist Republic (KSSR), or Finnish Soviet Socialist Republic (FSSR) and Finnish People’s Republic (FPR) and Finnish Socialist Worker’s Republic (FSWR) as part of the Rus Soviet Federation Socialist Union Republic (RSFSUR), also known as Vostokslavia (East Slav, Eastern Slav, or United Eastern Slav). Their capital would be Petrozavodsk and Kullervo Manner, former chairman of the Democratic Socialist Party of Finland and during the Finnish Civil War leader of the Finnish people’s Delegation, co-founder of the Finnish Communist Party, Finnish Red Guards and now a Red Finland. The idea was to build up an ideal Red Finnish Utopia across the border in Karelia and encourage the Finnish people to vote Socialist and Communist Parties to join it in the long run. A model that if successful could be expanded upon the ethnic overlapping borders of the Middle East, South Asia and East Asia as well. Meanwhile the Mutual People’s Assurance Pact was signed by most members of the Socialist International (SolIntern) and the Communist International (ComIntern) to oppose Colonial and Imperialist powers to wage war against it’s members. However especially in Britain and France, as well as Turkey, Persia and the Nationalist Chinese the pact was seen as a Socialist-Communist faction to take over most of their Empries of Nation States trough insurgency and rebellion.
At the same time a branch of the Soviet Union Socialists and Communists, who had been in support of keeping the Czar and the Royal Family as figureheads in a Socialist/ Communist or Soviet Monarchy, were used to create what they called People’s Monarchies, or Socialist Monarchies/ Communist Monarch Movements and Parties in places with larger Monarchist support suspicious of Socialist and Communist Movements and Parties, like the United Kingdom, Romania, Yugoslavia, Albania, Greece, Bulgaria, Italy, Belgium. Netherlands, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Hungary or Luxembourg in Europe alone. Such a blend of People’s Republics with a People’s Monarch were also seen as being more encouraging to some of the Monarchies and Noble Houses in Asia, from Persia, Arabia, over India, China, Korea, Japan, Indochina (Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia), Siam and other local places. Not yet paying off the Japanese General Elections of 1928 resulted in the Japanese United Labor Farmers Party (278.646 votes), the Japanese Social Democratic Party (12,044 votes) and the Japanese Farmers Party (44,000 votes) together as the Japanese People’s Coalition (headed by Christian Socialist and Pacifist Abe Iso gained 11 of 466 seats, far fewer then the Rikken Seiyukai (Association of Friends of Constitutional Government with 216 seats) and the Constitutional Democratic Party (with 215 seats) soon being joined by the Japanese People’s Monarchy Party in their Coalition.
No major decision here this time, but a little update how our ideas and suggestions so far have influecned this world further. ;D
Peace in Mexico
Peace in Mexico
One of the most important developments in the eyes of the United States of America and the Soviet Union was the peace agreement in Mexico, known as the Peace and Treaty of Zacatecas, which divided the nation in a southern Communist United People’s States of Mexico Republic (UPSMR) centered in Mexicans City (former Mexico City) and a northern capitalist United States of Mexico (USM) with Monterrey as it’s capital. While the Soviet Union saw the USM as an American puppet, the Americans had similar views on the UPSMR and the United People’s States of Central America, the Central American People’s Federation. Meanwhile in Japan, the government, supported by the military, cracks down hard upon socialist and communist parties and movements, arresting over 1,000 people for conspiracy against the Japanese Empire, Tenno and Japanese People. Meanwhile in Wangist China, the warlord Shi Yousan burns down the Henan Shaolin Monastery, destroying priceless artifacts and ancient structure in an attempt to purify the people from the past in which the Emperor, Aristocracy and Priests had held them down to rule over them, the Incident itself leads to a growing resistance against the new government in Monasteries, Shrines and Temples, the silent meditation protests by the priesthood and in return the Wangist Response known as the Cultural and Religious Revolution, in which those religious movements opposing the new government are banned and persecuted, while those supporting it are backed and protected to fill their spiritual role. As a result many religious groups join openly with the Nationalist Kuomintang and other rebels and Henan becomes a new core center of their guerrilla activities. While Charles Lindberg receives the Medal of Honor for the first ever transatlantic flight, the Egyptian Islamic Scholar and Schoolteacher Hassan al.Banna founds the Muslim Brotherhood. When the old Canaanite city of Ugarith is accidentally rediscovered, immense excavations in the area begin.
One of the most important developments in the eyes of the United States of America and the Soviet Union was the peace agreement in Mexico, known as the Peace and Treaty of Zacatecas, which divided the nation in a southern Communist United People’s States of Mexico Republic (UPSMR) centered in Mexicans City (former Mexico City) and a northern capitalist United States of Mexico (USM) with Monterrey as it’s capital. While the Soviet Union saw the USM as an American puppet, the Americans had similar views on the UPSMR and the United People’s States of Central America, the Central American People’s Federation. Meanwhile in Japan, the government, supported by the military, cracks down hard upon socialist and communist parties and movements, arresting over 1,000 people for conspiracy against the Japanese Empire, Tenno and Japanese People. Meanwhile in Wangist China, the warlord Shi Yousan burns down the Henan Shaolin Monastery, destroying priceless artifacts and ancient structure in an attempt to purify the people from the past in which the Emperor, Aristocracy and Priests had held them down to rule over them, the Incident itself leads to a growing resistance against the new government in Monasteries, Shrines and Temples, the silent meditation protests by the priesthood and in return the Wangist Response known as the Cultural and Religious Revolution, in which those religious movements opposing the new government are banned and persecuted, while those supporting it are backed and protected to fill their spiritual role. As a result many religious groups join openly with the Nationalist Kuomintang and other rebels and Henan becomes a new core center of their guerrilla activities. While Charles Lindberg receives the Medal of Honor for the first ever transatlantic flight, the Egyptian Islamic Scholar and Schoolteacher Hassan al.Banna founds the Muslim Brotherhood. When the old Canaanite city of Ugarith is accidentally rediscovered, immense excavations in the area begin.