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Here, a world where Phillip II of Macedon wasn't murdered:
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After consolidating his power in Greece proper, Phillip started his campaign against Persia, whose high point would be the Persian defeat at Babylon, expelling the Persians from the Fertile Crescent. From the Persians, Phillip annex to his empire Anatolia, Pontus, Cyrenaica, and the Levant till the Israeli border. Between the Greek and Persian empires, Phillip restores an Akkadian state (Second Akkadian Empire) and an Armenian state, both to serve as buffer states. He also restores an Israeli kingdom, as a vassal. Egypt also has it's independence restored.
After his Persian campaign, Phillip goes to Italy, to conquer Magna Graecia. There he helps the Samnites to defeat the Romans, rolling back the Roman Republic to the Latium. The Samnite League afterwards becomes a Greek vassal state.
Meanwhile, the ascendant Maurya Empire, taking advantage of Persian weakness, conquers the Indus Valley, Gedrosia and Arachosia, and creates a Bactrian puppet state. The Dahae and Chorasmia also declare independence from Persia.
Coming back frim his Italian campaign, Phillip formally crowns himself as "Emperor of the Greeks", and wanting to put the capital of his empire in a more strategic position, he moves it from Pella to Byzantum, now renamed Phillipolis. He finally dies in 312 BCE, at 70.
There's a POD I haven't seen before! Nice!
 
An awesome piece by @Aven

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Here, a world where Phillip II of Macedon wasn't murdered:
View attachment 299188
After consolidating his power in Greece proper, Phillip started his campaign against Persia, whose high point would be the Persian defeat at Babylon, expelling the Persians from the Fertile Crescent. From the Persians, Phillip annex to his empire Anatolia, Pontus, Cyrenaica, and the Levant till the Israeli border. Between the Greek and Persian empires, Phillip restores an Akkadian state (Second Akkadian Empire) and an Armenian state, both to serve as buffer states. He also restores an Israeli kingdom, as a vassal. Egypt also has it's independence restored.

After his Persian campaign, Phillip goes to Italy, to conquer Magna Graecia. There he helps the Samnites to defeat the Romans, rolling back the Roman Republic to the Latium. The Samnite League afterwards becomes a Greek vassal state.
Meanwhile, the ascendant Maurya Empire, taking advantage of Persian weakness, conquers the Indus Valley, Gedrosia and Arachosia, and creates a Bactrian puppet state. The Dahae and Chorasmia also declare independence from Persia.

Coming back from his Italian campaign, Phillip formally crowns himself as "Emperor of the Greeks", and wanting to put the capital of his empire in a more strategic position, he moves it from Pella to Byzantum, now renamed Phillipolis. He finally dies in 312 BCE, at 70.

I like this a lot.

Can you tell us more of how things are like in Persia, Babylon, Egypt, Maurya Empire, Rome, the Akkadian Empire, the Armenian state, the Greek Empire, and the Israel when Phillip died?

What of Alexander?
 
"In the waning years of the Second World War, the Allied powers began to press their advantages against the Nazi regime. To the dismay of the Americans, the British held firm in their convictions on attacking the 'Soft Underbelly' of the Balkans and Italy. This came after a reversal of fortune in Crete, where allied forces held the line and prevent Nazi forces from advancing.

The result was a dual pronged approach against the Reich: the Soviets would push North and East, while Britain, America and the Free French struck South to North. Through years of blood, sweat and tears, the two armies met not in Germany- but in Southern France after cleaving the continent in half. The result was a success, yet the ramifications would impact the world for the next 5 decades to come.

Up north, the Soviets installed friendly client regimes, with communist governments established in Germany, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Holland, Belgium, Poland (before Stalin decided to revise the border) and the North of France. To the South, the Western Allies liberated Italy, Yugoslavia, Bulgaria, Greece and South France had been from Nazi imperialism.

Though peace was restored to a continent, old rivalries flared once more. The forces of Capitalism and Communism proved incapable of setting aside their differences for too long. And lo, a new war begun. Not of artillery and munitions, but of influence and ideology.

This new European division left much to be desired for the Western allies. The continent had been burned out by years of war and destruction, and the Soviets had taken the Industrial Heart of the continent. The Southern states, though full of valiant peoples, severely lacked the structures that made the North the center of the world. All recognized this. Individually, they would all fall, one by one. Only together, could they stand any hope of withstanding the red tide.

It is 1947, and together, Italy, Yugoslavia and their allies have made the first steps to a true European Union."

@Kosta and I finally finished our Southern EU map. Or at least the first part.

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And now, the footnotes!

Europe:

1- In an ironic twist of fate, Franco's anti communism would prove to be his downfall. As the population (and the WAllies) lacked faith in his ability to contain communism now that its in Paris. A brief coup and monarchal restoration later, Spain is now embracing a transitional "democracy".
2- The Refugee stream from Europe is massive. The UK is quickly resettling as many as it can to the White Dominions, Algeria, South Africa, and Latin America
3- Everything of worth that wasn't nailed down was taken while the Allies moved north and stood their ground in the newly (re)created Kingdom of Bavaria.
4- Poland was traded for Bavaria and Romania.
5- [Finlandization Intensifies]
6- The Russian Far East is undergoing massive development thanks to all the looted industry.
7- South France has no industry, no labor pool and no money. And too many communists to count. Thank God for the Marshal Plan and guest workers.
8- Turkey just got upgraded to a key European ally now that the Soviets reached the Atlantic.

Africa:

1- Morocco took advantage of the French collapse and Spanish instability to flex its muscles and retake its rightful clay. Now looking to expander its borders beyond and ride that anticommunism wave for all the free money.
2- Algeria- sorry Free France- went full Herrenvolk after France was cleaved in 2. Mass exodus of refugees and usage of Arab guest workers are welcomed to keep the population balanced.
3- The Mali federation has a bright future ahead of it. No French meddling, immediate defacto independence on their terms and cooler heads prevailing (with a little appeasement) means an intact union. Now eyeing Guinea-Bissau
4- Ghana and Nigeria are extensively fighting for their independence despite all British attempts at mollification. London realizes its on borrowed time.
5- The United States of Latin Africa is realizing self rule is a lot harder when you have no infrastructure.
6- In the interests of saving money (and realizing Colonialism is done), Egypt was given Sudan in more than name only. Of course, this wouldn't be British foreign policy without a little divide and rule.
7- Ethiopia is happily enjoying her 2 new ports.
8- Somalia will get her independence after Italy realizes foreign aid won't last forever.
9- Belgium's fall meant Britain had to take up the mantle of Middle African hegemon, swiftly organizing a puppet government. South African mining companies were delighted and lobbied for Katanga as a consolation prize.
10- Leftovers went to America as a UN trust.

Asia:

1- The Hashemites in Iraq are excited for the future. Their cousins in Jordan are less so.
2- The Soviets are coming to realize they need an Indian Ocean Port.
3- The leftover French colonies were just added to the Raj. Meanwhile, there is a rapidly growing movement of Indians, seeing Mali, Egypt, Indochina and the USLA that see partition as unacceptable. One can only imagine what will happen when Britain decides to set up Pakistan when independence comes next year.
4- The Brits (and Aussies) liberated Indochina from the Japanese only to overstay their welcome while setting up a transitional (read: puppet) government. They really think Viet Minh is playing games out here
5- A couple of backroom deals, a couple of assassinations (including Mao's) and Stalin's decided to support the Nationalists.
6- Nothing is ever free, however.
7- West Indonesia got her independence without even trying. Of course, now she must liberate her eastern brethren from the Dutch loyalists.

Americas:

1- Sooner or later, the American tax payer will get tired of 90% of his tax dollars propping up half the world. That day is not today.
2- Trujillo goes out of his way to accept all refugees fleeing the horrors of war. So long as they're not black.
3- Venezuela just got bumped up to developed world status after the war demolished the competition.
4- Suriname and Guiana just got their independence early. Of course, they're too poor and underpopulated to take advantage of it.
5- [Embranquemiento Intensifies]

I still say Bavaria and Austria need to be merged.
 
"In the waning years of the Second World War, the Allied powers began to press their advantages against the Nazi regime. To the dismay of the Americans, the British held firm in their convictions on attacking the 'Soft Underbelly' of the Balkans and Italy. This came after a reversal of fortune in Crete, where allied forces held the line and prevent Nazi forces from advancing.

So, how is life in Bavaria, South and North France, Algeria, Japan, Madagascar, Red Germany, Egypt, Italy, Yugoslavia, and Greece.

How does the US see things in Europe and Asia now?

The British Congo?

The Holocaust?

Will they be a Israel?

Tell us more about the refugee stream, and it being sent to the White Dominions, Algeria, South Africa, and Latin America?

Does the British regret the outcome of the war now?

How did West Indonesia get her independence?
 

Isaac Beach

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The Water passed through His Shoes and the Stars through His Soul.

Inspired in part by Matteo, in part by a desire to redo this map, this WIP takes place about 110 or so years in the future, give or take. As you can see, there are already some major changes; noticeably I've actually tried my hand at chipping away a few coastlines with a raised sea level of which I'm quite proud, desertification has set in, Europe is a very different place and -le gasp!- America has a monarchy.
Don't worry, it's not some despotic hellhole where gays are executed and Vermont a police state. The Emperor -seated in the capital of Chicago- is actually of a dusky complexion and a fairly liberal fellow at that. Yes while originally suffering from division and secessionism in the 21st century and going through a painful political transition in the early 22nd America has reasserted itself as an important global power if not what they used to be. They're patriotic, opulent and traditional -capes are seeing a comeback- and after the destruction wrought across many cities in the 2nd Civil War neoclassical architecture has come to dominate the nation's major cities. Their patriotism is mostly benign though there's a small militaristic bent in some areas of society. For instance the Roman salute has seen a revival at universities, among the military and in the Midwest, (better known as the Nazi salute to us) but given most people are 217 years removed from the Second World War it doesn't have such uncomfortable connotations associated with it. It is a largely liberal place however; there's social welfare, people's sexuality is not really a considered factor anymore in a positive or negative way, and while ethnic identity is still a thing ethnic nationalism has been dead for a long time given one out of three people is ethnically mixed. But they are fond of their pomp and formality, snapbacks and that sort are thankfully extinct in lieu of pressed suits, coats and dresses while art is essentially Roman revivalist though 3D meta-sensory art is very big at the moment.

China, comparatively, has become what many would call a 'pragmatic' nation. They finally abandoned pretending to be communists in the 2050s and established a new political philosophy combining elements of both capitalism and communism known as Injunctivism. It basically advocates for bureaucratic distributist model that means no single body of government has too much power; the judiciary is very powerful and companies while not necessarily government owned are all party to large, corporate syndicate like structures. They too saw a bit of a renaissance in Chinese religion -especially Taoism-, culture and architecture -there are some neat pavilion skyscrapers dotting the coast- and thus much as America would come across to someone in 2016 as oddly anachronistic. With 2 billion people they are a major cultural exporter and so their fashions and values are prevalent across much of the civilised world and especially the rim of the Indian Ocean.
India and Africa at the moment are rising stars. India went through a tough patch but is as of 2126 about on the same level as China. However in an undeniably multipolar world and with China still a healthy superpower they are not relying on the collapse of the current hyperpower to launch themselves onto the world stage.

The New California Republic is a majority 'creole' state with a predominant ethnic mix of White Americans, Hispanic and various brands of East Asian. They're very sleek, modern and technocratic but have politics akin to modern Italy and a complex about distinguishing themselves from America. To their east is the Kingdom of Deseret, a staunch American ally that was rewarded for it's loyalty to the revolution during the Second Civil War with it's independence à la San Marino. The state religion is Mormonism but they possess large and active minorities of Sunni Muslims, Hispanics wishing to escape the din of California and English settlers.
South America is largely a Brazilian playground, and the nation has taken the senior role as superpower of the Americas They are still a vibrant, culturally intermixed nation but much as America have readopted many features of their Imperial era and Brasilia is pockmarked with grand Romanticist and Neoclassical megastructures. They're also aggressively conservationist, going so far as to occupy Peru's Loreto Region in order to ensure the restoration of the Amazon. They are making moves to do this in the Congo as well. The other big power is the Republic of Colombia which has adopted many of the pretensions of the American system of government and are more or less a literal oligarchy, much to the chagrin of their democratic neighbours.

Europe is divided into two blocs; the Carolingian Republic and the Poland-lead Intermarium.
Throughout all the fluctuations of the socio-political landscape France and Germany grew closer and closer. Their languages share many many loanwords and their cultures are near inseparable; certain areas aare still annoyingly distinct but the bulk of both countries largely became one in the same over a period of years, something that scholars believe was kick started by their joint occupation of the flooding Low Countries. Luxembourg is their capital.
Initially an alliance of conservative, somewhat reactionary countries that were frightened of Russia and Muslims the Intermarium developed into an alternative EU focused on the old Visegrad group and eventually grew to encompass most of Eastern and Balkanic Europe. It is very religious and militarised and oddly closer than the EU ever was; despite this it has a strong Slavo-Vedic tradition due to the presence of so many Indians -a side effect of their alliance with India- and possesses the same merito-syndicalist superstructures as that country and funnily enough is pretty pro Muslim nowadays.

Africa is roughly divided down the middle. The west, lead by Nigeria, is a pro-Brazilian, superficially pro-Indian confederation of nations opposed to Chinese Injunctivist domination, which tends to revolve around Beijing as an economic, quasi-Mandate of Heaven equivalent. Nigeria, after sorting it's corruption and devolving some powers to local legislatures in the north and east, easily became the most powerful nation in Africa. Even against a resurgent Ethiopia, a federalised East Africa and an authoritative Egypt Nigeria has managed to maintain their place among the stars and is widely considered a superpower with some 400 million inhabitants. Having modernised, adapted and synthesised many Yoruba and Hausa traditions fashion is rich with encrusted jewelry and colourful fabrics and native Kings and Sultans are known and respected the world over.
Meanwhile, eastern Africa is a collection of Injunctivist regimes all loyal to Beijing and some more powerful than others. The two biggest powers are Ethiopia -enjoying a stint of Rastafarian revivalism- and East Africa -having developed a rich naval tradition and being the primary voice for further integration among the African Union even where it does not benefit Beijing-.

One of the areas that did not benefit from Climate Change was Central America. Beset by increasing humidity with subsequent crop failures and a rise in plaguing mosquitoes, political instability reached breaking point in the mid 2050s and set off the collapse of states the beginning of new migrations. This second Volkswanderung -the scholarly consensus of which includes mass migrations from the Middle East to Europe and Central Africa and from South Asia north- was born primarily by Mexico but also Colombia, the Venezuelan states and the then United States. These migrations began to peter out towards the beginning of the 22nd century but left a shambolic mess of drug-addled dictatorships and anarchy where Central America used to be. A joint operation agreed upon and largely supplied by Brazil, China and Canada began in 2110 and as of 2126 remains a joint-occupation after several attempts at propping up varying republics and regimes failed. Beijing, Ottawa and Brasilia are hoping they can withdraw by 2130 but are currently in disagreement as to the forms the new directly appointed governments should take.

With American influence being removed in a new period of isolationism in the late 2010s the Middle East was left to Russian, Iranian and later Chinese devices. Syria despite all of Russia's attempts to prop up the local regime did not last and Sykes-Picot became a thing of the past when Iraq too fell apart. Attempted Israeli expansion into Lebanon -admittedly egged on by an extremist group occupying the northern strip of the Israeli-Lebanese border- prompted an invasion by the newly minted Mesopotamia and Saudi Arabia -a strange turn of events given the two's prior antagonisms- and would eventually draw in Turkey and Jordan on the Israeli side. Iran, for their part were satisfied to sit this conflict out due to already having effective suzerainty over Iraq and Kurdistan at this point though they would later support a concurrent if separate conflict against Turkey to expand their latter satellite's territory.

This by and large lead to the end of Israel, though a fairly extreme Jewish state would continue to hold Jerusalem and a strip of coastline well until the present. It also lead to a reduction in Jordanian territory. Despite this victory, Saudi Arabia at least would not last as increasing desertification and a failing oil prices spelt the end of their economic productivity. They eventually collapsed, the parts still livable being absorbed by their neighbours and the Holy Cities reviving the Hashemite throne and unifying with Jordan. Of course by this point Chinese influence in the Middle East was truly established and Mesopotamia and Jordan-Hejaz became Chinese satellites.

China's attempts to subdue India via proxy were largely foiled by accident. Afghanistan's collapse was precipitated by a brief revival in Islamic extremism, ethnic strife and a failure to adapt to radical shifts in climate. This violence rocked Pakistan and fueled nationalistic reactionary policies that only ended up increasing issues. A renewed conflict in Kashmir against India eventually developed into an all-out war that despite heavy assistance from China -which did succeed in separating India from Kashmir- lead to a Pakistani collapse and occupation of Punjab and Sindh. Despite being closer to Pakistan than India, with their demise Iran turned to India over time and formed a strong alliance that permeates to this day.

Kazakhstan and Karakalpakstan benefited greatly from climate change; a re-flooding of the Aral Sea and an expansion of the Caspian lead to a revitalization of fisheries in both countries, submerged harmful salt-laden soil thus preventing it from being blown over fertile land, and has revitalised and increased the size of pastureland in both countries. Aside this, increased Chinese economic activity and eventually new markets emerging both from the north and west upon the collapse of Russia has lead to the two -and much of Central Asia- becoming an economic powerhouse and the centre of the new Silk Road network that interconnects the Middle East with North-Eastern Europe and East Asia. By region, Central Asia is the richest location on Earth.
Alongside these two, though with different political realities, Siberia has awoken as a broad breadbasket supplying much of Asia and Africa and dominating the cattle market. This has drawn ranchers and plantation workers from across the world, and the renewed Siberian identity is complemented by large minorities of Texans, Spaniards, Christian Chadians, Somalis, refugee Aimaqs, Uzbeks and Tibetans.

India would be rather familiar to anyone from OTL, though with megalopoli spreading across the nation like splayed entrails housing no less than 2 billion people and connected by built up and hyper-efficient railways. New Delhi, with a greater metropolitan population of 130 million, is the most populous mega-city in the world. It absorbed Bangladesh when it collapsed due by and large to flooding, the positive side effect being that -along with Punjab and Sindh- with so many more Muslims under the government's care Hindu nationalism is very much a fringe movement. Every large religion is represented in some way in India, but vibrant Hinduism remains the most visible. Building up a web of allies such as the Intermarium, several south-Arabian nations -going so far as to annex Aden-, Japan, Thailand and Mexico, Hinduism is proliferating throughout much of the world if in a largely syncretic fashion.

Japan bombed out at 80 million people after several decades of population decline and only with relatively enormous increases in immigration and several iterations of natalist governments has the nation managed a net increase of their population. As a side effect, the younger generations are far less xenophobic and relations between Tokyo and Beijing have been normalised. The Hokkaido government is the result of a rebellion by primarily the Ainu but also other ethnic minorities that were allowed into the wintry province but not in the more metropolitan south. They established an Injunctivist government and have long been an ally of China.
Korea was one of the sadder notes of the 21st century. With American protection removed by 2025 the North launched a barrage of sub-atomic weapons and an invasion; of course this was rebuffed and rolled over by an enraged South, who were in turn invaded and occupied by China -who in the process slaughtered the Kim family, who had outlived their purpose- and established a pro-Chinese and unified government that was essentially an extension of Beijing itself. This was followed by about 50 years of occupation and a further 20 of normalisation as the Injuctivist philosophy was proliferated and now Korea is a staunchly pro-Beijing nation that has largely forgotten the terrible decades under Chinese occupation despite it being relatively recent. (And helped in no small part by Chinese censors and propaganda)

The United Commonwealth of Australia and Singapore ranks highly on the list of 'unexpected geopolitical developments'. Increasingly close relations between Indonesia and Malaya and Australia and Singapore gave birth to two unions, one a bit less believable than the other. Nevertheless with a healthy economic relationship, similar priorities in an ocean of increasing Chinese influence and preexisting military doctrines the integration of Australia and Singapore was rather simple. Australia in and of itself is becoming an increasingly important power even as under Chinese influence due to their enormous energy industry, rice farming on the coast of Cape York and large-scale geoengineering projects to unlock the full potential of the Artesian Basin. The latter development has greened up the interior substantially and lead to a population boom of some 63 million. The City of Diamantina, located at the nexus between three small seas, has some 2 million people alone.

Space by this point is in the slow process of colonisation; plans to build enormous habitats at the Lagrange points of Earth are underway and the asteroid belt is home to a motley assortment of minarchist mining colonies, inhabitants are largely Dutch-many having moved to space after their homeland sank beneath the waves-, Chileans and Argentinians, Serbs, Cossack revivalists, North African Arabs of various sorts, South Africans-especially Boers and Coloureds-, Kyrgyz and Tajiks, Rohingya and Sarawakians, all with a thin veneer of Han Chinese over the top. It's a wild place as a result.

Culture is far less uniform than at current, in the backlash to globalism local cultures, religious idiosyncracies and social memes of both a positive and negative nature took hold. For instance, women of a dark and plump nature are considered the standard of beauty across most of India and Africa, but then again Sati -or widow immolation- was revived in India. America rediscovered it's roots, but most of Europe began persecuting homosexuals again. The most extreme of these practices, especially with regards to sexual identity, were phased out and most of the world has fairly moderate views. But traditionalism is prized and regional identity a fixture of politics; segregation is not necessarily perceived as negative so long as those communities interact with their fellow communities.

Religion is interesting; Islam is the biggest religion in the world but more diversified than at the mome' largely due to the Abrahamic faiths adopting syncretic factors as their Dharmic relatives. This is in part a side effect of China and India becoming such prevalent powers. One may profess their faith for Allah, for example, while also praying to Jesus and paying tribute to Tharapita of the Estonian mythological pantheon. Religious revivalism and as aforementioned regionalist tendencies has meant that long extinct or minor religions have gained enormous quantities of followers compared to at current. Tengrism, Kebatinan, Wuism, Hausa Animism and Norse Mythology are just some of the many hundreds of religions that are widely practiced. (Though the latter most would probably get you queer looks, being a predominant feature of the nationalistic pariah state of Sweden)

The title comes from Victor Hugo's Les Misérables. The full quote is “What Is Love? I have met in the streets a very poor young man who was in love. His hat was old, his coat worn, the water passed through his shoes and the stars through his soul”. I felt it was appropriate because the world is constantly revolutionising, and I thought the contrast between stark poverty and something so optimistic as love was a good metaphor for the socio-political fluctuations of civilisation as a whole, not to mention the future setting given stars are mentioned. But maybe I'm over thinking it. :coldsweat:

I hope you like it. :biggrin:
 
Something about the communist party in Czechoslovakia not liberalizing, causing the country to remain communist throughout the 90's eastern european revolutions and ultimately become the last truly communist state in Europe.
Love to understand the butterflies that made Kaliningrad divided between Poland and Latvia and why Ukraine has some of the OTL Romanian Black Sea coast!
 

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So, how is life in Bavaria, South and North France, Algeria, Japan, Madagascar, Red Germany, Egypt, Italy, Yugoslavia, and Greece.

How does the US see things in Europe and Asia now?

The British Congo?

The Holocaust?

Will they be a Israel?

Tell us more about the refugee stream, and it being sent to the White Dominions, Algeria, South Africa, and Latin America?

Does the British regret the outcome of the war now?

How did West Indonesia get her independence?
Bad but improving. Bavaria is a bombed out ruin for now.

North France is a standard eastern Bloc country, albeit with a much higher standard of living.

South France is a lot like OTL South Korea in the 50s; lots of rationing, rebuilding, tough conditions for all. But its beginning a rapid ESI style industrialization. Unlike South Korea, South France is embracing Multiculturalism right off the bat, as the steep demand for labor and manpower (in addition to the incredible rates of emigration) has led to bring in immigrants from Italy, Arabs from Algeria, the Levant, Egypt and the former African Colonies.

Algeria is great- if you're not Arab. If you are, its horrible. Plenty of European refugees are being successfully resettled there, much to the Pied Noir government's delight.

Japan is same as OTL. Dealing with the struggles of rebuilding and the occupying American army. Reindustrialization is going full scale ahead however and things are getting better.

Madagascar is undergoing a weird transition and steadily opening itself up to the world. Not much different for your average person than in the colonial period other than there's a lot less French on the radio now.

Red Germany is not in a nice place. Its the DDR but larger, with every bit of industry worth anything being stripped out and sent back to the USSR. Massive amounts of Soviet troops are stationed there. There are plans for rebuilding and reindustrialization of the state among Stalinist lines, which won't be pretty to see.

Egypt is doing swimmingly. The British overextension has allowed Egypt to gain real independence, and with the annexation of Sudan (technically under Egyptian rule on paper), nationalist sentiment has skyrocketed. Modernization is slowly but surely beginning in Egypt, fueled by oil/mineral extraction and and cheap labor costs. Your average Egyptian peasant is going to look back at the late 40s and 50s fondly.

Italy is rebuilding from the war. The Kingdom is now the economic heart of Democratic Europe, and thus is being pumped in with billions of dollars (in todays money) to jumpstart its economy alongside the first few steps towards integration with the remainder of Free Europe. Its dealing with the standard postwar issues. Low productivity, low wages, its got limited resources of coal, is dependent on America for aid and a market, and having to rebuild most of its infrastructure from scratch. Times will get better though.

Yugoslavia is in the same boat as Italy, albeit with even less infrastructure and people. The Marshall Plan (and skilled refugees from up north) will change that.

Greece is more or less as OTL, minus the civil war. American and British troops were very thorough in purging angry leftists.

The US sees Europe as incredibly vulnerable to Soviet Domination now, and is working hard to try to change that. Mainly by pumping money into their economies and rebuilding many areas from scratch.

The Congo isn't British- its just a British protectorate. When Belgium fell, all that was left was the Congo, and it needed to be secured for its vast mineral reserves. The result was the Congo gaining its independence but being heavily dependent on the British for everything, including administration given that Africanization wasn't done here.

The Holocaust has still occurred, unfortunately.

Yes, there will be an Israel.

The refugee stream is huge. Millions fleeing the continent or towards other countries trying to escape the economic destruction, poverty, fear of the Soviets, and so on. Given that the British have enough trouble feeding and supporting their own bombed out population, the refugees are being sent elsewhere. Australia is very happy to take them in, as is Canada, South Africa and New Zealand. Areas with plenty of space. In Latin America- Brazil, Argentina, and Mexico are the biggest takers of migrants. But large amounts are heading to Cuba, Uruguay, Venezuela and the Dominican Republic, who are all eager for any Europeans they can get their hands on. Given the huge demand for migrants in Latin America, most of them are being resettled there- and relatively quickly too.

This is all just the initial stream of migrants, the depressed conditions in Europe will see to it that these areas receive steady stream of migrants for the next few decades.

The British don't now, but they will when the realize that their victory has given them nothing but overextension, debt, the loss of their empire and a host of allies they need to support.

I still say Bavaria and Austria need to be merged.
It is a tempting thought. We're not too sure about the plausibility.
 
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Seraphiel

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I've been working on a "Rule of Cool" timeline idea for a 2nd American Civil War caused by the Trump presidency that spirals out of control before it even begins. Not the most plausible of idea but yeah...

Basically it all spirals out of control after the White House is attacked on New Years by terrorists, a large section of the executive government is killed, including the President and most of the Chiefs of Staff which paralyzes the military alongside the federal government. This followed immediately after increasingly damning evidence of Trump's collusion with Russia was uncovered, casting his Presidency in a shadowy light. As chaos reigns in Washington events snow ball out of control, Trump is sworn in just as Democrats declare his victory illegal. By January 15th Trump and his cabinet, alongside most Republican lawmakers, flee from D.C. to Indianapolis after Clinton is declared President-Elect, within days governors begin to go to one side or the other based on party lines. The first shots of the Second American Civil War are fired in North Carolina as the global economy implodes into the worst depression in history.

Due to a lack of clear leadership, a divided rank and file and many commanders turning to governors for guidance most military bases are paralyzed and unable of doing anything, desertations are incredibly high and for the most part the vaunted American military is a shadow.

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1. Texas, Republic of. Governor Abbot has all but declared Texan Indepedence and the Texan Legislature is in the process of formalizing it, however there is still some leeway for Texas to turn to Trump instead. Whether that will occur is debatable.
2. Due to some unfortunate resignations and a brief fire fight Fort Bliss has come under the command of a colorful character. Proclaiming the Legion of the Republic Commander Brannigan has taken control of the Las Cruces-El Paso area and begun recruiting volunteers into his "army". Ostensibly siding with Clinton Brannigan's powerful "Legion" is scaring Governor Abbot.
3-4. California and Washington are currently pressuring Hawaii and Oregon to join a gloriously liberal United States of Pacifica, as of yet only heavy pressure from Clinton is keeping these two crucial states from leaving her camp.
5. Whereas Washington was able to retain total control over the state Oregon's governor was not as capable of using the State Guard to defeat Bundyist rebellions in the west.
6. Similar to California Utah is strongly debating as to why they should support Trump, many Mormons are agreeing the US of A is dying. Maybe its time to jump ship?
7. A miracle of popular will or the result of barbarians illegals taking over the "Corredor" connects the otherwise isolated Legion to a Clintonite base. For the time being.
8. Despite nearly collapsing to popular Republican support to join Trump Governor Edwards was able to use his military training to retain solid control over an otherwise red state. The center point for Klan attacks on minorities and dirty liberal forces.
9. Chicago lacked the military power to openly declare for Clinton in a sea of red states but that does not mean it support Trump. At all. Just barely a few inches from declaring for Clinton or perhaps even independence, depends on how the win blows in the North Carolina.
10. McCrory has returned! After everything went to shit the defeated Governor came back claiming extreme voter fraud and destabilized Cooper's efforts to swing North Carolina to Clinton. The first shots of the 2nd Civil War were fired here between State Guard units. The focus of the world is here (when not distracted by increasingly volatile home situations), whichever side win North Carolina can either take D.C. or keep it.
11. Washington D.C. is home to the Democratic Congress but Clinton resides in New York City, ostensibly a neutral city under the control of various federal agencies, all under the watchful eye of a militarized intelligence community.
12. Puerto Rico's statehood was fast tracked by a Democratic Congress. Now for Clinton!
13. The Linea, the armed wing of the Carillo organization, followed the Sinaloa Cartel and rebelled against Mexico City. Clashing with everyone around them in a very delicate situation.
14. The Gulf-Zeta Alliance was the last cartel to rebel and now holds the title for most vicious. The Zetas in control of Coahuila in particular have made an infamous name for themselves.
15. Eager to free their father, the Guzman brother launched a daring plan with the aid of their southern neighbors, the NGCJ, the freed El Chapo and assassinated Pena Nieto in Mexico City. While not openly declaring a free state the Sinaloa Cartel was the first to totally resist Mexican authority.
16. The New Generation Cartel of Jalisco, former associates of El Chapo they were responsible for the President's assassination but quickly turned on their northern rivals. Currently reports indicate that they are attempting to cause another Zapatista rebellion in Chiapas, an event that could cause a snowball effect of revolution across the Central American states.
17. After their President's murder and the collapse of the US into civil war Interior Secretary Miguel Angel Osoria took the reins of power and established a de facto police state out of what remained of Mexico, using the remnants of the Federal Police. Gearing up for a brutal war with the cartels.
18. Alaska and Hawaii still don't quite know what to do, declare independence or remain with Clinton. So far no legislative moves have been put forward in either state. Pacifica lobbyist are growing strong in Hawaii while Alaska risks its own civil war between Trump loyalist and the government.
 
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