List of Alternate Presidents and PMs II

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Donald Trump (Nazi) 1997_2001
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shiftygiant

Gone Fishin'
>modern art
>meaning

shifty plz
i mean

that's the point, there is no intrinsic meaning as it's a breakdown of traditional artistic convention in response to the achievement of photorealism, with the observer forced to confront the fact what they're looking at is simply paint on a canvas

but this

it's just colour and letters, signifying nothing

it's kinda genius
 
i mean

that's the point, there is no intrinsic meaning as it's a breakdown of traditional artistic convention in response to the achievement of photorealism, with the observer forced to confront the fact what they're looking at is simply paint on a canvas

but this

it's just colour and letters, signifying nothing

it's kinda genius

All it needs now is to be randomly generated...
 
light green, that well-established colour of Nazi parties

Actually fuck that remark, I know from long experience that in posting something like that I'm just trifling with the possibility that someone I've never seen post before will come into the thread and info dump 5000 words about how the green movement is funded by Swiss Nazi gold and about Hy-Brasil and ancient aliens and all of it in broken English, and you're not sure if that's because they're not a native speaker or that they're on some kind of medication.

I'm just going to post this.

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Heliogabalus - Barack Obama as the Democratic Reagan
Barack Obama as the Democratic Reagan

2009-2017 Sen. Barack Obama / Sen. Hillary Clinton (Democratic) [1]
def 2008 Sen. John McCain / Sen. Lindsey Graham (Republican) and Michael Bloomberg / Lincoln Chafee (Independent)
def 2012 Sen. Lindsey Graham / Carly Fiorina (Republican)

2017-2021 V.P. Hillary Clinton / Gov. Gavin Newsom (Democratic) [2]
def 2016 Gov. Charlie Baker / Sen. Lamar Alexander (Republican)
2021-2029 Fmr. Gov. Chris Christie / Gov. Bobby Jindal (Republican) [3]
def 2020 Pres. Hillary Clinton / V.P. Gavin Newsom (Democratic) and Mark Zuckerberg / Adm. Michelle J. Howard (Independent)
def 2024 Sen. Joe Biden / Fmr. SoL Russ Feingold (Democratic) and Mark Zuckerberg / Laurence Kotlikoff (Unity)

2029-2037 Gov. Chelsea Clinton / Fmr. SoS Kurt M. Campbell (Democratic) [4]
def 2028 V.P. Bobby Jindal / Sen. Dan Carter (Republican) and Austin Petersen / Shelby Rouch* (Libertarian)
def 2032 Sen. Adam Kinzinger / Sen. Amy Daniels* (Republican)

2037-2039 Sen. Cynthia Liu* / Sen. Marco Rubio (Republican) [5]
def 2036 Sen. Tammy Duckworth / Gov. Tina Sunia* (Democratic)
def 2040 Fmr. Gov. Ashley Tsongas / Rep. Spencer Madison* (Democratic)

2045-??? Kanye West / Gov. Pete Buttigieg (Democratic) [6]
def 2044 Fmr. SoS Andrew Christie / Sen. Ron Mackenzie* (Republican)

*These people would be nowhere near the national radar by 2016, so I just made them up

[1]: President Obama is often remembered one of the greatest in recent history. His nomination by the Democratic Party was seen as the beginning of a liberal revolution, and he managed to unite the party by choosing his main competitor and establishment pick Senator Hillary Clinton as running mate (though, he only chose her after his several other planned vice presidents declined or were unable). Meanwhile, the Republicans nominated Senator John McCain, who chose his friend and fellow moderate conservative Lindsey Graham as VP. However, the greatest surprise came when New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg announced an independent campaign. Bloomberg achieved high poll numbers at first, but ultimately failed to gain traction, coming off as boring and uncharismatic; thus, many of his supporters, feeling that he had no chance, left him for one of the major party candidates. In the end, Obama won in what would be remembered as a landslide (although he barely got fifty percent of the popular vote). He was beloved due to his successful liberal policies and charisma (though both his popularity and actual level of success would be exaggerated by later Democrats), allowing him to win reelection in a true landslide in 2012. Obama remains one of the most iconic American presidents, though he still has a fair share of detractors on all sides of the political spectrum.

[2]: 2016 was anybody's game. Vice President Hillary Clinton managed to fend off Democratic competitors, while on the Republican side, Massachusetts Governor Charlie Baker won the nomination. Baker's running mate was Senator Lamar Alexander, a respected elder statesman (though, many would argue that the seventy-six-year-old was far too elderly), while Clinton surprised many with her choice of Gavin Newsom, the young California Governor who many believed was ill-equipped for the job. Still, despite an initial lag in the polls, Hillary came on top. Overseeing the fall of Putin's "neo-Soviet" Russian sphere of influence (something which many credit on President Obama's foreign policies, though many political scientists argue that it was inevitable) and the highly successful defeat of the ISIS terror group in Iraq and Syria, Clinton's approval ratings peaked at nearly 90%, making reelection seem inevitable. However, a poor economy (and, despite a persistent myth, not a third-party candidacy) would prove otherwise.

[3]: Following her controversial strategy for dealing with the recession - which broke her campaign promise to be tough on big banks - Hillary Clinton was challenged by Representative Tulsi Gabbard in the Democratic primaries. While Clinton won every state and ended up with Gabbard's endorsement, this only foreshadowed her troubles to come in the general election against the Republican nominee, Former New Jersey Governor Chris Christie and his running mate, Luisiana Governor and 2016 Republican candidate Bobby Jindal. The Christie/Jindal ticket ushered in what many would call an era of moderate, "smart" Republicans, while Gabbard's surprisingly successful candidacy would mark the rise of the "crazy left." What caught everyone by surprise was the independent campaign of Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg, who ran on a centrist "socially liberal, fiscally conservative" platform that was greatly critical of the Clinton administration. Zuckerberg briefly led in the polls, but eventually slowly went down as Christie surged; the perceived political ineptitude of his running mate (who was originally meant to be a placeholder until Zuckerberg could find someone else to fill in the position) Admiral Michelle J. Howard certainly did not help. While Christie was initially seen as sleazy and untrustworthy, he managed to win over the American public through his unique brand of charisma. Given the numbers of the three-way race, many blame Zuckerberg's candidacy for Clinton's loss, but polls consistently show that he took roughly equal support from both parties. Christie's first term was controversial, with Republicans accusing him of being too far to the left and Democrats accusing him of being too far to the right. It seemed that he might lose reelection in 2024, but he managed to pull through against octogenarian Senator Joe Biden and former Secretary of Labor Russ Feingold, who wasn't so young himself, along with Mark Zuckerberg, running again with his own party and a new running mate, economist Laurence Kotlikoff. A corruption scandal in his second term led to Christie's impeachment, but not his removal from office. The relatively minor scandal was seen as partisan issue and actually boosted Christie's popularity, with many seeing the impeachment as an overreaction. Overall, Christie is well-remembered, though there are still many who dislike him.

[4]: The Election of 2028 seemed like it would be one of the most divisive in history, though it would be soon outmatched. Establishment picks Governor Chelsea Clinton of New York - daughter of Presidents Bill and Hillary Clinton - and Vice President Bobby Jindal were chosen by the Democrats and Republicans respectively. In the extremely close election, Jindal won the popular vote but lost the Electoral College to Clinton. It is believed that Jindal lost at least in part due to vote splitting by Libertarian candidate Austin Petersen, who courted many conservatives discontent with the moderatism of the Christie/Jindal administration. Clinton's president was marked by the July Fourth, 2029 terrorist attacks on the United States, leading the to a new era of foreign war and intervention. After beating Illinois Senator Adam Kizinger for reelection in 2032, however, Clinton's popularity declined considerably as her foreign interventions took a turn for the worst.

[5]: Given President Clinton's unpopularity, a Republican victory in 2036 was expected; however, no one expected which Republican it would be. While Senator Andrew Christie - son of President Chris Christie - was expected to win the nomination, he was defeated by the young, upstart Senator Cynthia Liu, who ran to the right of Christie but managed to simultaneously appeal to the center through her talk of bipartisanship. Democratic Senator Tammy Duckworth failed to gain significant traction, something often blamed on her running mate, Hawaii Governor Tina Sunia, whose lack of policy knowledge and sometimes incomprehensible left-wing populist rhetoric proved a liability on the campaign trail. Liu's victory incited a level of excitement not seen since Barack Obama's inauguration. However, any hope of being the Republican's Obama faded when she was faced with realities of governing. Despised by the left and often criticized by the right, her attempts at compromise often fell through. Still, she managed to win reelection against Former Massachusetts Governor Ashley Tsongas (daughter of former senator and presidential candidate Paul Tsongas), and she maintained high approval ratings by the end of her tenure, if only in comparison to who came afterwards.

[6]: 2044 was an election year for the history books. Despite a surprisingly strong challenge from the right by Alaska Senator Joe Miller, Secretary of State Andrew Christie won the Republican nomination. Meanwhile, the Democrats were overtaken by surprise candidate Kanye West. West originally gained fame and fortune as a rapper, but he had also been involved in a large number of artistic, entertainment, business, and political endeavors over the last decades. He had been speculating a presidential run since 2016, and the closest he ever came was a half-baked campaign for the Unity Party's 2028 nomination, so few took him seriously when he first announced his candidacy. However, he steadily gained traction by appealing to the "crazy left" of Gabbard and Sunia, and eventually managed to win the nomination outright. He won the limited trust of the Democratic base and establishment through his running mate, Indiana Governor Pete Buttigieg, but many were still skeptical of him, and none expected him to win against Christie. However, in the surreal election season, which many scandals and gaffes on the part of West, but also questions about Christie's integrity, Kanye managed to win in an upset, despite losing the popular vote (something he would vigorously deny).
 
Golfman76 - THE KID WHO RAN FOR PRESIDENT
THE KID WHO RAN FOR PRESIDENT

Based off the book "The Kid Who ran for president". I know that there is a sequel where the kid becomes president but I don't have that one so...

The 2000 election had Al Gore narrowly win over George Bush, but at the same time Ralph Nader's campaign in California cost Gore the popular vote. Buchanan had a Stein-esque role to play, as he attracted many Social Conservatives angered at Colin Powell

After a lot of feuds, Joe Lieberman was forced out of the Democratic ticket. Lieberman resigned and ran on the Reform party ticket. Gore was defeated by George White, a Moderate who was not too moderate.

White's presidency is average. The 2008 election looks to be boring until one kid from Wisconsin teams up with his former babysitter, who is also a 90 year old black woman. The 28th amendment allows people of all age to run for president. Moon narrowly wins, but his scathing "victory" speech made lead others to think otherwise. However, his friend and campaign manager, Lane Brainard, suggests that he should become president anyway (splits from the book where Brainard says that Moon is a better candidate than president)

Moon's administration lasts for a week until he and his vice president resigns. Before that, he ordered the airdropping of boxes of baseball cards on Iraqi villages.

Speaker of the House Bob Riley becomes president. He is seen as a caretaker. However, under his presidency the 29th amendment is passed where it allows kids to vote and to run for congress and other political offices. This leads to a "Lemonade Revolution" in the 2010 midterms, where they gained 90 house seats and 10 senate seats.

The 2012 election was a crazy one. For one thing, Arthur Krantz, the head of the Future lawyers of America club and in the words of President Moon "and just about every other dorky club" who also almost destroyed Moon's campaign for revealing that Moon stole and destroyed his term paper, managed to win the Lemonade primaries, but hook or by crook. This angers the "Moon" faction of the party, and former White House chief of staff Lane Brainard teams up with Judson Moon's girlfriend Abby Goldstein on a "Anti-Krantz" ticket. Brainard kept calling Krantz by his school nicknames: "Booger Boy" and "Smartie Pants Artie Krantz". The 2012 downballot races destroyed the Lemonade party

Pawlenty's presidency is also boring. However, the 30th amendment, passed in 2013 repealed that 29th and 28th amendment, which effectively killed the Lemonade party.

2016 was the first normal election for America since 2004, and the first two-party election since 1988. Elizabeth Warren got the vote of minorities, the working class and not too young people. Warren was the first Democratic president since Al Gore, and now it is time to return to normalcy under President Warren, Senate Majority leader John Cornyn and speaker of the House John Lewis.

Fred Derf is someone I made up because Krantz sits at the "Derf" table. "Derf" is Fred backwards and has nothing to do with Fred's last name. Hell, Fred does not even have a last name. Fred is barely even mentioned. I decided to make his running mate someone whom I assume is his friend: "Fred Derf".

2001-2004: Al Gore/Joe Lieberman (Democratic)

2000: George Bush/Colin Powell (Republican), Ralph Nader/Winona LaDuke (Green) Pat Buchanan/Ezola Foster (Reform)
2004-2005: Al Gore/Howard Dean (Democratic)
2005-2009: George White/Mike Huckabee (Republican)

2004: Al Gore/Howard Dean (Democratic), Joe Lieberman/John Anderson (Reform)
2009: Judson Moon/June Syers (Lemonade)
2008: George White/Mike Huckabee (Republican), Herbert Dunn/Dianne Feinstein (Democratic)
2009-2013: Bob Riley/Lamar Alexander (Republican)
2013-2017: Tim Pawlenty/Mitt Romney (Republican)

2012: Jerry Brown/Bev Perdue (Democratic), Lane Brainard/Abby Goldstein (Independent), Arthur Krantz/Fred Derf (Lemonade)
2017- : Elizabeth Warren/Jason Carter (Democratic)
2016: Tim Pawlenty/Mitt Romney (Republican)
 
Lilac - Taft Goes to Court (Mk. 2)
Could we keep the passive-aggressive sniping somewhere else, please?

Taft Goes to Court (Mk. 2)

1909-1913: Leslie M. Shaw / John W. Dwight (Republican) [1]

1908: William Jennings Bryan / Clark Howell (Democratic)
1913-1917: Theodore Roosevelt, Jr. / Charles Nagel (Republican)
1912: J. B. "Champ" Clark / T. Woodrow Wilson (Democratic)
1917-1925: William Jennings Bryan / Woodson R. Oglesby (Democratic) [2]
1916: Theodore Roosevelt / Charles Nagel (Republican), Robert La Follette/Robert P. Bass (Progressive Anti-War)
1920: James R. Garfield / Jeter C. Pritchard (Republican)

1925-1929: Warren W. Bailey / Herbert Hoover (Democratic) [3]
1924: Gifford Pinchot / Charles B. Warren (Republican), Henry Ford/Nicholas M. Butler (Reform)
1929-1937: James G. Harbord / Henry L. Stimson (Republican) [4]
1928: Warren W. Bailey / Herbert Hoover (Democratic)
1932: James W. Gerard / Henry F. Ashurst (Democratic)

1937-1942: A. Piatt Andrew, Jr. / Joseph R. Knowland (Republican) [5]
1936: Franklin D. Roosevelt/Henry B. Steagall (Democratic), Huey P. Long Jr./Smedley D. Butler (Everyman)
1940: David L. Lawrence / Ernest McFarland (Democratic)

1942-1945: Joseph R. Knowland / Vacant (Republican)
1945-1949: W. Prentice Cooper, Jr. / Lewis W. Douglas (Democratic) [6]

1944: Joseph R. Knowland / Channing H. Cox (Republican)

[1] William Howard Taft gets appointed to the Supreme Court like he always wanted - in his place TR chooses a different handpicked successor - Secretary of the Treasury and former Iowa Governor Leslie Shaw. Shaw has even less of a spine than Taft, hard as that is to believe. Come 1912, when TR pulls his "Shit, I only said consecutive terms" stunt - Shaw stands aside


[2] Teddy's (third) term went great aside from that whole 'try and push an unwilling nation towards WW1' thing. And also that whole 'Split your own party doing that' thing. And also the whole 'finally lose to William Jennings Bryan thing'. Hey, at least Bryan kept us out of war.

[3] Do you like Georgism? It turns out that the world economy doesn't. (Or maybe it had to do with that whole 'New Party March on London' thing. Who knows?)

[4] Harbord comes in as a bluff former general promising to fix anything. One could rather reluctantly conclude that, yes, unilaterally declaring war on Japan does help fix the American economy.

[5] Luckily, Governor Andrew actually knows his shit when it comes to economics - growth is stable and he actualy uses some spare time to pass an anti-lynching law or two. Then of course the Soviet Union and the British Republic plunge the world into war.

[6] A tired newspaper publisher isn't the man to make the world safe for Democracy - that falls to activist Governor Prentice Cooper, who in 1947 can finally travel to a bombed out Whitehall. Alongside Chancellor Adolf Bauser, he flashes V for Victory and declares the immortal words - "Mac is dead"
 
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