"Io Mihailŭ, Împĕratul Românilor" - A Michael the Brave Romania Wank

Zagan

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Even Icelandic / Faroese would become part of the language so to speak, even if they would be considered rather archaic dialects hailing from a far-gone time.

Also ... found this post which makes a good overview of the scandinavian languages.

A Modern TTL Scandinavian language would likely look mostly like Danish / Norwegian Bokmål in terms of writing, but listen more like Swedish/Norwegian when spoken. Finish and Lappish would be supressed and given the control of whiteland it might well actually succeed in making those extremely small minority lanuages with prehaps a few thousand speakers by modern era.

Interesting.

The Scandinavians were among the most democratic people in Europe at that time in OTL. I suppose they will give some kind of National Autonomy to Finland.

I just find the Iberians, French, Germans, Romanians, etc much more likely to attempt a linguicide.
 
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I'm not sure i would call them the most Democratic people in europe, that price must surely go to North Italy (with honorable mention to Iceland) ... but they might well be the people with least history for a strong central power, with the tradition of 'things, which defacto tended to be ruled by the large families just as much as Nobles controled their areas in the rest of Europe.

I don't think it would outright be organized/conscious suppression as such. Much rather a heavy cultural suppression.

And Finland wouldn't seen as an independent party, it would be seen as 'Österland', a natural part of Sweden (and any pretense of being a autonomous grand duchy would get forgotten and killed by the same nationalization idea that kills the idea of mutually independent Sweden/Norway/Denmark), which just so happens to have a aboriginal population similar to the Sami tribes in Northern Norway/Sweden. And a heavy implication that if you wanted to be anything beyond a illiterate farmer, you'd better assimilate into the Scandinavian nation and become a Scandinav' instead of following your ethnicity, paired with population exchanges trying to colonize the areas into being proper Scandinav', starting in the largely Swedish speaking areas of Finland proper. They're not helped by that they (and the Sami) are speaking a completely different language which doesn't help them being considered part of the nation per say.

Finland as the name of the whole area might well die just as Burgundy being the name of area the dukes of burgundy ruled, reverting into being only used for the southwesternmost Finland.
 
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Zagan

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Have Some Pie (Charts)?


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Zagan

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Wait,so most ethnic Romanians aren't even citizens?

I have to quote myself:

Law of Citizenship

Article I. Is a Romanian he who speaks the Romanian language in his house with his family, wherever he might live, inside or outside Romania.
Article II. Is a Romanian Citizen any Romanian who lives in Romania, owns property and knows how to read, write and cypher.
Article III. Is a Protected Citizen any member of the Saxon or Szeckler communities or of any other foreign community that may receive our protection in the future.
Article IV. Any Romanian Citizen or Protected Citizen may take part in the affairs of the Country and have their voice heard in any matters of common interest.
Article V. All Citizens have the right to be protected by the State. They may not be killed or imprisoned without a trial. In case of a trial, they have the right de speak on their behalf. They have the right to own property and to not be separated from their property except by lawful means.
Article VI. All Romanians shall be Romanian Orthodox. The protected Nations may follow their own religions. The Tatars may follow their religion as long as the Romanians in the Ottoman Empire enjoy the same right.
Article VII. All Citizens have the obligation to either pay thair lawful taxes or to do corvee by their own choice. All adult males, sane in body and mind have the obligation to defend the country in times of danger.

Article VIII. Romania is ruled by its Citizens through their representatives, the Romanian Great Voivode and Lord and the Romanian Senate, under the blessed guidance of the Romanian Church and the protection of the Romanian Army.
 
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Zagan

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Don't understand,please elaborate.

The Law of Citizenship is still in force. Article II clearly states that:

Is a Romanian Citizen any Romanian who lives in Romania, owns property and knows how to read, write and cypher.

So, just about 10% of the Ethnic Romanians should be Citizens. The rest were illiterate.
In fact the percentage of Romanian Citizens out of the total Ethnic Romanians is higher (about 20%) because of... bribe.
Romania was not a democracy.
 
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The Law of Citizenship is still in force. Article II clearly states that:



So, just about 10% of the Ethnic Romanians should be Citizens. The rest were illiterate.
In fact the percentage of Romanian Citizens out of the total Ethnic Romanians is higher (about 20%) because of... bribe.
Romania was not a democracy.

I thought you only need to fulfil only at least one of the conditions,speak Romanian,to be a citizen.

Sounds extraordinary weird and a major flaw for non-literate Romanians not to be citizens.You are basically alienating a large percentage of your people,reminds me of how Qin treated their original subjects after conquering China,eventually causing their old subjects to desert Qin and join the rebellious new subjects in overthrowing Qin eventually.
 
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Zagan

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I thought you only need to fulfil only at least one of the co dictionary,speak Romanian,to be a citizen.

In practice it happened like this:
1. Your child goes to the Church School, he gets Citizenship and later some land.
2. You go to the Army, you get land and some schooling, you and your family gets Citizenship.
3. You have already some land and money, even if you are illiterate, you can bribe someone and get Citizenship.

It was basicly intended to be some kind of an incentive: Learn or enroll in the Army or be economically prosperous and you get Citizenship.

The benefits of Citizenship were:
- Protection against abuse;
- Better social, political and economical status;
- The right to receive free land if you had none;
- Privileges in front of the authorities, including in a Court of Law.
- The right to choose some of your local representatives;
- More rights and privileges as the years passed and new laws were enacted.

Sounds extraordinary weird and a major flaw for non-literate Romanians not to be citizens.You are basically alienating a large percentage of your people,reminds me of how Qin treated their original subjects after conquering China,eventually causing their old subjects to desert Qin and join the rebellious new subjects in overthrowing Qin eventually.

Well, everybody was a "Subject", just not a "Citizen".
It was a two tier structure and you were encouraged to climb the ladder.
 
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Zagan

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So what's the difference between protected citizens and full citizenship?

Only an ethnic Romanian can become a Romanian Citizen.

Only a member of a Protected Nation (for now the Germans, Hungarians, Szeklers, Poles, Slovaks, Greeks) can become a Protected Citizen.

The Protected Citizens enjoy in their own communites the same rights enjoyed all over the country by the Romanian Citizens (simplified).

It is actually a form of Apartheid used for the minorities deemed hard to assimilate (or politically unfeasable to assimilate).
 
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I.35. Europe before the Great Powers Conference

Zagan

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"Instead of figthting among ourselves, we should better conquer the World."
Emperor Michael I of Romania, The Great Powers Conference, Prague, 1626


Europe before the Great Powers Conference



In the previous 25 years, the Old Continent of Europe had witnessed dramatic changes:

- The 1601 Unification of Romania had altered the geopolitical situation in Eastern Europe, paving the way for the almost complete destruction of the Ottoman Power in Europe 23 years later and for the subsequent Imperial greatness of Romania.

- The conquest of the Crimean Khanate had saved millions of Europeans from the fear of Tatar raiding and had greatly empowered Sarmatia (the former Commonwealth of Poland-Lithuania), which went on to win more wars against Sweden and Russia.

- The rise of Nationalism had sweeped through Eastern and Central Europe, the National Idea being adopted by the ruling classes of Western Europe as well, with wide-ranging consequences, the most visible of them being the creation of unified, centralized, National States in Romania, Sarmatia and Germany, followed by similar events in Iberia, Britannia and Scandinavia.

- The Unification of Germany had led to the demise of the Holy Roman Empire and massive territorial changes in Central Europe, such asthe disappearance of the Austrian Monarchy and the sea-faring Union of the Netherlands, among other countless States and Statelets.

- Major wars, waged on large territories by huge armies made possible by the emergence of Nationalism and the Levée en masse, had bankrupted most European Powers, leading to a general aversion towards this kind of wars and the need to find alternative means of solving conflicts and settling disputes.

- After the Wars of 1622 - 1625 (The Anti-Ottoman Crusade and the Second German War), known today under the single name of The First European War, Article IX of the 1625 Brussels Peace Treaty had called for a Great Powers Conference to be convened during the following year.


1625 - 1626, Europe

The period between the end of the European War and the opening of the Great Powers Conference was one of intense diplomatic talks, hastened but profound political and administrative reforms in some countries and a few regional crises, all of them luckily defused by diplomacy or threats.


1. Iberia

King Philip IV of Castile and III of Portugal and Aragon had merged his Crowns into the Crown of Iberia and had proclaimed the Iberian Empire (Imperio Iberico) with himself as Emperor Philip I (Imperador Felipe I) of Iberia, of Italy, of Africa and of the Americas.

He had reversed the policies of his father in respect to Portugal, giving the Portuguese, the Castilians and the Catalans an equal share of power in the new unified State and even moving his Capital City to Lisbon, in the former Kingdom of Portugal.

His official policies of creating an Iberian Nation and an Iberian Language would have mixed results and the empowering of the Portuguese would lead to a revolt in Castile and Aragon in the later years of his reign.

No real unification of his Italian Realms had been attempted, leaving Naples, Sicily, Sardinia, Corsica and Malta as separate States, which would later join the Italian Confederation.

In North Africa, Tangier, Ceuta, Melilla, Oran, Algiers, Constantine, Bizerte, Tunis and Tripoly were at first administered at separate Colonies, being only united after the conquest of the North African Coast was completed.

In the Americas, Mexico, Cuba, Hispaniola, Puerto Rico, Granada, Peru, Chile, La Plata and Brazil were maintained as separate entities, owing to the difficulty of having an unified administration over such an enormous territory.


2. France

King Louis XIII of France had not changed the administrative structure of his country, other than disolving the Crown of Navarre and annexing the Southern Netherlands (renamed Belgium), Lorraine, Burgundy, Savoy and various other small states of the former Holy Roman Empire.

Exploration and colonization of New France and other parts of the World continued during his rule.

No forging of a French Nation was deemed necessary until the reign of his successor, who inherited an already dire situation in the German parts of the country.


3. Britannia

In the penultimate year of his reign, King James VI of Scotland and I of England and Ireland had finally fulfilled his old plan of uniting his three Crowns into the Crown of Britannia.

While the merging of England and Scotland proceeded smoothly, the Catholic Irish vigurously opposed the annexation of their country, leading to a bitter and protracted war which lasted more than a decade.

King James would die during the Great Powers Conference, being succeeded by his son Henry Frederick as King Henry I of Britannia.

Britannia would continue to focus on the exploration of the seas and colonization of far away lands.


4. Germany

A large federal structure, the German Empire (Keiserreich Deutschreich) had been forged by the sword in two consecutive bloody wars which permanently altered the European balance of power and acted as a catalyst to the Great Powers Conference.

The power of Emperor Siegfried Augustus I of Germany (Deutschreichs Keiser Siegfried Augustus I) was limited by the German Princes, some of which still enjoying considerable autonomy inside their Federal German States.

The German Nation was probably the only one which raised on its own thus creating its Country, unlike the other European Nations which were themselves creations of their Countries and Sovereigns.

The loss of the entire Dutch Fleet, which refused to sail back to Germany from England after the annexation of their country meant the de facto loss of all the Dutch Colonies as well. This situation created a great bitterness in Germany towards their former British allies and would be one of the main points of contention at the Great Powers Conference.


5. Sarmatia

King Sigismund III of Poland and Grand Duke of Lithuania had been the first to take Mihai's example and unify his country into the Commonwealth of Sarmatia (Rzeczpospolita Sarmacja), with himself as King Sigismund III of Sarmatia (Król Zygmunt III).

The process of creating a single Sarmatian Nation speaking a common Sarmatian Language would mostly fail, leading to the emergence of three Nations, largely faithful to their common country:
- The Poles (including all the other West Slavic Peoples in Western and Northern Poland);
- The Lithuanians (including all the other Baltic Peoples);
- The Ruthenians (including all the East Slavic Peoples of Sarmatia which had United with the Roman Catholic Church, i.e. the White Russians, the Little Russians and even some Great Russians).
This ethno-linguistic structure had left aside most of the Russians (still Orthodox), the Tatars (Muslim), the Germans and the Estonians (mainly Protestant).

In 1625, Sarmatia sold Finland (with the exception of Finnish Ingria, retained by Sarmatia) to Scandinavia (Denmark-Norway) in exchange for Danish Osel Island, a rather large amount of money and the perpetual right of free passage for all Sarmatian ships through the Baltic Sea and the Danish Straits.

The exchange was successful because of several factors:
- Sarmatian control over Finland had been only nominal;
- Finland was 100% Protestant and did not fit into a declared Catholic State (the former Swedish Estonia was Protestant as well but much smaller and contiguous with the core Sarmatian territory);
- Sarmatia had an empty treasury and needed money for the ongoing campaign in Circassia;
- Osel Island was important because of its proximity to the core Sarmatian territory;
- Scandinavia needed more population in order to achieve Great Power status;
- Scandinavia wanted to prevent Sweden from reclaiming Finland and to get Sweden completely encircled in Scandinavian territory, thus putting more pressure on Sweden to join its planned Scandinavian Union;
- In the following decades, Sarmatia would mostly concentrate on the Caucasus, against Circassia, Persia and the Ottoman Empire.


6. Romania

A quarter of a century previously, the Romanians lived in the Ottoman Vassals of Wallachia and Moldavia, the foreign-ruled Transylvania and in other territories directly under Ottoman rule.

At the time of the Great Powers Conference, Romania was an Imperium as large as Germany, larger than Iberia, France and Britannia and a Great Power itself.
Almost all the Romanians lived in their National State since Imperator Mihai I reigned over a huge territory streching from the Adriatic and Ionian Seas to the Black Sea and from the Northern Carpathians to the Aegean Sea.


7. Scandinavia

King Christian IV of Denmark-Norway had unified his realms into a single Kingdom called Scandinavia, composed of all its European territories (Denmark proper, Norway proper, Schleswig, Scania, Bornholm, Gotland, Osel, Iceland and Feroe).

He acquired Finland in 1625 (and ceded Osel) and explored and claimed the Coasts of the White Sea (Whiteland) between 1620 and 1633.

After the death in battle of King Gustavus Adolphus, his sister became Queen Catherine of Sweden.

The Unionist Movement in Sweden gained more traction because of four different events:
- The death of their King and the accession to the throne of the rather unpopular Queen Catherine;
- The financial collapse brought about by a string of lost or useless wars (the War with Poland-Lithuania, the First German War and the Anti-Ottoman War);
- The Scandinavian purchase of Finland;
- The desire to be recognized as a Great Power (only possible together with Denmark and Norway).

In January 1626, the Riksdag decided to pursue the Union with Scandinavia. Queen Catherine was forced to decide between abdication and divorce followed by marriage with King Christian. She chose the latter.

In June, King Christian of Scandinavia married Queen Catherine of Sweden. As she was 18 years older than him, the marriage was nothing more than a political trick and both monarchs continued to reside in their respective Capitals.

Several days after the Royal Marriage, the Kingdoms of Scandinavia and Sweden were officially united into the Commonwealth of Scandinavia or the Union of Scandinavia. King Christian became King of United Scandinavia and Queen Catherine became Queen Regnant of United Scandinavia.

Until the death of Queen Catherine, the Scandinavian Union would be a de facto Federal State, smoothly transitioning into a Unitary State after her death.

Taking into consideration the Union of Scandinavia and Sweden, the other confirmed Great Powers accepted the resulting Commonwealth as a fellow Great Power (at the insistence of Britannia and the German Empire).

The Great Powers were thus seven:
- Three Catholic (Iberia, France and Sarmatia);
- Three Protestant (Britannia, Germany and Scandinavia);
- One Orthodox (Romania).


8. Russia

By 1626, the Russian Civil War had been finally over and the authority of Tsar Ivan V had been recognized by all important factions.

The country however was still in total disarray, important territories had been lost (Ingria, Smolensk, Severia, the Azov Steppe to Sarmatia, the Arctic Lands to Scandinavia and the Cossacks had de facto independence), almost three million people had been killed by wars, famine and diseases and the treasury was completely empty.

The Great Powers decided to postpone the recognition of Great Power Status to Russia until its eventual internal stabilization.


9. Slovakia
10. Croatia
11. Greece


These countries could in no way be considered Great Powers.
They have nonetheless sent observers to the Conference.


12. Italy

In 1626, Italy was divided into several States:
- the Papal States (Rome);
- Venice (including territory in Dalmatia, Adriatic Islands, Ionian Islands, Crete, etc);
- the Italian Confederation (under some French and Venetian influence);
- Piedmont and Nizza (under French military occupation and unilaterally annexed by France);
- Savoy (annexed by France and recognized as French territory by the Brussels Peace Treaty);
- Naples, Sicily, Sardinia, Corsica and Malta (parts of the Iberian Empire).

The situation in Italy was extremely complex because three Great Powers (Iberia, France and Germany), Venice, Rome and the Italian Nationalists, all wanted to unite Italy under their control or influence.

One of the main points on the agenda of the Great Powers Conference would be the Italian Question.
During the Conference, Venice declared itself a member of the Italian Confederation, quickly followed by Rome.

Most of the Italian States had sent observers to the Conference and petitioned the Great Powers for an United Italy with Great Power Status.
The final settlement would be viewed by some Italians as a success and by others as an unfortunate setback.


13. The Hungarians
14. The Georgians
15. The Armenians


The Hungarians (from Romania, Germany and Slovakia, strongly supported by Germany), the Georgians (autonomous vassal of Sarmatia) and the Armenians (from the Ottoman Empire and Persia) petitioned the Great Powers for states of their own, with some success.


28 August - 13 September 1626, Prague, German Empire

Heads of States, Plenipotentiaries and various representatives from all over Europe converged in Prague for the greatest diplomatic encounter the World had ever seen.


15 September 1626 - 10 December 1627, Prague

The workings of the Great Powers Conference produced a vast amount of definitions, standardizations, rulings, proclamations and treaties, set the grounds for the emergence of International Law and created the permanent institution of the Great Power Council.
The World changed for ever.


Note: The most important proceedings and results of the Conference will be discussed in the following Chapter.
 
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Zagan

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Sweet, Romania is finaly an empire! :D

Since the previous chapter actually.

Little Romania has grown!
Actually, it looks pretty frightening.

Yes. It is not a baby anymore.

But it is not so frightening after all. Although a little larger than Iberia and France, more than twice the size of the British Isles and as large as the German Empire, its population is quite small: only 6.1 million compared to 23 million France, 17 million Iberia and Germany, 12 million Sarmatia, 9 million Russia and 7 million Britannia. From the Great Powers, only Scandinavia has a lower population, only 3.1 million.
 
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Since the previous chapter actually.



Yes. It is not a baby anymore.

But it is not so frightening after all. Although a little larger than Iberia and France, more than twice the size of the British Isles and as large as the German Empire, its population is quite small: only 6.1 million compared to 23 million France, 17 million Iberia and Germany, 12 million Sarmatia, 9 million Russia and 7 million Britannia. From the Great Powers, only Scandinavia has a lower population, only 3.1 million.

Balances out the powers quite well, actually.
Let the French, Spanish and English have their colonies. The Germans, Romanians, Samartians and Russians will be growing to become greater.
 

Zagan

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Balances out the powers quite well, actually.
Let the French, Spanish and English have their colonies. The Germans, Romanians, Samartians and Russians will be growing to become greater.

The plan sounds good in principle, but there is the thorny problem of Germany.

1. Iberia - has enough colonies already and has yet to conquer the rest of the Muslim North Africa.

2. France - has room to expand in North America and other parts of the World.

3. Britannia - the same.

4. Germany - problem! No colonies (the Dutch ones were appropriated by Britannia) and no room to expand in Europe either!

5. Sarmatia - has room to further expand in the Caucasus, Armenia, Persia, etc.

6. Romania - has room to further expand in the Ottoman Empire, etc.

7. Scandinavia - has room to expand in the Arctic and elsewhere.

8. Russia - has room to expand in Siberia.

12. Italy (later) - the same as Germany, no room for expansion.

Actually, Germany and Italy had the same problem IOTL.
If the other Powers will not let them to have some colonies, there will be trouble in Europe sooner or later.
 
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The plan sounds good in principle, but there is the thorny problem of Germany.

1. Iberia - has enough colonies already and has yet to conquer the rest of the Muslim North Africa.

2. France - has room to expand in North America and other parts of the World.

3. Britannia - the same.

4. Germany - problem! No colonies (the Dutch ones were appropriated by Britannia) and no room to expand in Europe either!

5. Sarmatia - has room to further expand in the Caucasus, Armenia, Persia, etc.

6. Romania - has room to further expand in the Ottoman Empire, etc.

7. Scandinavia - has room to expand in the Arctic and elsewhere.

8. Russia - has room to expand in Siberia.

12. Italy (later) - the same as Germany, no room for expansion.

Actually, Germany and Italy had the same problem IOTL.
If the other Powers will not let them to have some colonies, there will be trouble in Europe sooner or later.

Nah man. Scandinavia looks dope. :p
I get your point. But maybe this leads to Germany being the founder of Free Market ideology? Trade with minimal tariffs, etc. like modern Germany.
 

Zagan

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Nah man. Scandinavia looks dope. :p
I get your point. But maybe this leads to Germany being the founder of Free Market ideology? Trade with minimal tariffs, etc. like modern Germany.

I can not get the meaning of the word "dope" here... Some slang, maybe?

Scandinavia is clearly the weakest Great Power. It was reluctantly invited to the club after all.

Free Trade is very nice, but unfortunately at least a couple of centuries too early.
 
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