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Great updates as always!

Really interested in reading how things will go for both empires after the Russo-Ottoman War.

What's the current situation in Africa? (Besides the events in south Africa). There hasn't been a Berlin Conference analogue so far, right?

About Mexico, I'm glad that Tomas Mejía is rising to prominence. What has happened to people who were important in post-Juárez and Porfiriato Mexico OTL, like Sebastián Lerdo de Tejada, Manuel González or Bernardo Reyes?

Thank you!!

So far pretty much like OTL, Belgium would have held its Congo Conference or whatever it was called but there’s been no Berlin conference to draw a bunch of lines on a map. The Ottoman victory is actually a huge butterfly here - no French Tunisia, no British Cyprus, and a French Suez and stronger OE probably forecloses an Egyptian intervention, which of course was a huge impetus for the Scramble to begin with. I think we’ll see a much slower colonialist incursion or perhaps just a network of client states (such as Britain using Zanzibar as a captive market, for instance). Truth be told I’m still deciding... Africa is huge and complex. One thing I think we know is that Portugal has already gotten its Pink Map and Boer control of Kimberley forecloses the rise of Cecil Rhodes, with all the fallout that entails

I wasn’t quite sure what to do with Lerdo... he’s such a Juarez loyalist and I didn’t research him much until I’d already blown past Max’s victory. Any suggestions? As for the other two I’ve never heard from them so I’ll have to do some research and see where I can slot them in :) I always welcome suggestions on Mexican figures to use since so much of this TL will focus on that country and I’m not super well versed in its history
 
Sure! Manuel González was a military commander who first fought alongside Miramón and the Conservatives during the Reforma War, but switched sides during the French intervention and served under Porfirio Díaz. Afterwards, he succeded Díaz as president after the latter's first term ended, continuing and setting the ground for many of the Porfiriato policies. When his term finished, he served as governor of Guanajuato until his death in 1893.

Bernardo Reyes was also a military man and served as governor of Nuevo León for much of Porfirio Díaz's rule. He was responsible for curtailing the influence of local caudillos, former generals (some names for you!), such as Jerónimo Treviño, Francisco Naranjo and Genaro Garza García and for kickstarting the industrialization of the state, which can still be seen nowadays in Monterrey and the rest of the sate.

I mean, much of their fame comes from after the POD, but I'm sure you can find something useful, if you wish, to make with them. If you need any more names, specially for northeastern Mexico, I'll be happy to oblige.
 
Sure! Manuel González was a military commander who first fought alongside Miramón and the Conservatives during the Reforma War, but switched sides during the French intervention and served under Porfirio Díaz. Afterwards, he succeded Díaz as president after the latter's first term ended, continuing and setting the ground for many of the Porfiriato policies. When his term finished, he served as governor of Guanajuato until his death in 1893.

Bernardo Reyes was also a military man and served as governor of Nuevo León for much of Porfirio Díaz's rule. He was responsible for curtailing the influence of local caudillos, former generals (some names for you!), such as Jerónimo Treviño, Francisco Naranjo and Genaro Garza García and for kickstarting the industrialization of the state, which can still be seen nowadays in Monterrey and the rest of the sate.

I mean, much of their fame comes from after the POD, but I'm sure you can find something useful, if you wish, to make with them. If you need any more names, specially for northeastern Mexico, I'll be happy to oblige.

I have some ideas already, just based off of that. More stuff for northeast Mexico would be great, especially as we start to head into the early 1880s and some turbulent times ahead for Max and the gang
 
Siam in the Colonial Age
"...so when Luitpold greeted his second son, Leopold, and took him to Bangkok as part of the three-month overlap between the father-son Generalresident handover in Cambodia, it was the younger Bavarian royal's turn to be amazed at Siam's rapid progress. While no state in Asia could compare to what Japan accomplished under the Meiji Era - no other state was as urbanized and had had as long of a period of time connected to the Western world at a distance [1] - Siam's reforms in the 1870s only accelerated as the partnership between Leopold and Chulalongkorn deepened. As colonial conflicts in Asia loomed on the horizon, Germany's little outpost in the Far East became a bulwark for the Siamese crown to resist encroachment by France and Britain..."

- Siam in the Colonial Age

[1] We underrate Japan's advantages when we ask if other country's could "do a Meiji" on here, I think

(We're going to play some around-the-world catchup here in early 1878 as I dig into Part IV)
 
How are the Ottomans feeling about having bled and won for what was effectively no gains in the eyes of the Ottoman public? Granted, we know that not expanding the Ottoman Empire in any way was the right call considering all of the issues they were facing at this time internally(calling it a disaster would be putting it mildly), but I imagine there's internal pressures and frustrations with how the conference largely ended with a snub on Ottoman authority even if it was largely a de jure thing.

Might it lead to more aggressive Ottoman foreign policy in the future in response to being snubbed in say, Egypt should they have OTL's financial issues? Or participating in the Scramble?
 
How are the Ottomans feeling about having bled and won for what was effectively no gains in the eyes of the Ottoman public? Granted, we know that not expanding the Ottoman Empire in any way was the right call considering all of the issues they were facing at this time internally(calling it a disaster would be putting it mildly), but I imagine there's internal pressures and frustrations with how the conference largely ended with a snub on Ottoman authority even if it was largely a de jure thing.

Might it lead to more aggressive Ottoman foreign policy in the future in response to being snubbed in say, Egypt should they have OTL's financial issues? Or participating in the Scramble?

Hey there! Thank you for reading. We're going to cover the aftermath of the war in the OE here shortly, though not quite from the perspective you're asking about. My thinking personally is that public opinion in the Empire is ebullient. Not only did the OE not get carved up by Russia (an intervention to free Bulgaria and then have other parts picked off was pretty clearly the goal), it didn't even have to submit to Great Power pressure and put the terms of the Constantinople Conference in play. They beat a major European military one-on-one in the Balkans (Plevna and Galatz here are nothing short of decisive victories) and fought to a standstill in the smaller Caucasus front, and defended the honor and pride of their empire. The Constitution of 1876 can go into effect and all they've lost are three protectorates that kept rebelling against them anyways, and the European powers will think twice before intervening in Istanbul's affairs for a little while.

I do think, though, that this leads to a more active OE foreign policy. Not expansionist, per se, but the early 1880s Egyptian crisis would almost certainly (and will certainly) have them at the table, especially with their erstwhile ally France in nearly full control of the Canal, and they'd project a lot of influence in northeast Africa to the point that we'd see a very very different Scramble. Don't think the Ottomans were super interested in acquiring too much additional territory, though. Most of their problems haven't really gone away.
 
Queen Min
"...the Queen, perhaps unlike the rest of Court, viewed the arrival of the USS Ohio as a potential opportunity. The Americans had skirmished with the Joseon Kingdom some decade earlier, but that was before the country had been partially opened by France and later Japan. The American expedition to Korea in 1878 wound up being a tremendous success while still deepening the political crisis in the country between the landed yangban who wanted to drive out all Western influence and the young progressive bloc swirling around the ambitious young Queen, with the indecisive Gojong stuck in the middle. On a tour of the countryside, the American Commander George Dewey [1] remarked on Korea's natural beauty and the kindness of her people, but also described the state as in a place of peril - torn between France's influence, China's formal suzerainty, and Japan's ambitions, as well as the goals and aspirations of the Queen and her bloc at court..."

- Queen Min (University of New South Wales, 1984)


[1] Fun little cameo
 
The Lion of Edinburgh: Prince Arthur, the Empire and the Twilight of the Victorian Age
"...public opinion, having been so strong against the Turks, now turned against Cabinet. Not even the aggressive response by the government against the IRB in the early phases of the Land War - posturing against the "Fenian hordes" had worked well for Carnarvon and his clique in the past - could rescue the government as the economy, already stagnant or in depression for nearly a decade, worsened again. The Great Strike of 1878, which involved shipbuilders as well as railroad workers and textile millers, ground Britain to a halt, and Franchisers marched on both Parliament and Buckingham Palace. Arthur suggested to his mother they evacuate to Balmoral, which they did by stagecoach in the dead of the night, as the British Army had to be deployed for the second time in a decade to London to keep the peace. It was at Balmoral that Arthur gave his mother the suggestion that would change history - a suggestion that she call Carnarvon to Scotland to meet privately, and there ask if he could still command the support of not only Parliament but indeed his own Cabinet.

Once more, Prince Arthur's prodigious diaries come in handy in the turbulent hours of 1878, when it seemed as if a Britain frustrated both at home and abroad. It is here that he suggests, 'I asked Mother to go a step further, to make a motion that would have been unthinkable but six months ago; to not merely entice Henry (Arthur was fond of using politicians' personal names) to step down, but to demand it and dismiss him if need be. It would be an overwhelming breach of Her Majesty's understood role in the modern age, but in a crisis, Britain looks to the Crown, and between the Cape, the Straits, Ireland and now the socialists who threaten to tear London to the ground, we are in a crisis and Britannia needs her Queen.' In the end, dismissing Carnarvon would not be necessary; the embattled Prime Minister, who had knifed two predecessors in the back to reach Downing Street and had turned the United Kingdom towards gruff, continental illiberalism, understood that to be sacked by the Monarchy would be a constitutional crisis from which the country would need decades to recover. Upon arriving in Scotland, he immediately agreed with Arthur's brusque suggestion that he no longer carried the confidence of Parliament (here Arthur, all of 27 years of age, recalls telling the man twenty years older than he, 'Get on with it, Henry! You haven't a bloody clue what you're doing, do you?') and tendered his resignation, dropping the writ for new elections. In one of his final acts as Prime Minister, before telegraphing his colleagues in London to announce the surprise elections, was to recommend to the Queen that she appoint his friend and confidant Salisbury to Downing Street in the event of a third successive Tory majority.

Salisbury would never have his chance to lead a Cabinet. [1] The 1878 campaign was a heated one, as the Great Strike ended with the hopes of a new day, and the threat of an even uglier descent into chaos should the Conservatives be returned hung over the tired and frustrated land. In the end, despite suffrage laws that still severely restricted the franchise to property owners and had not been updated in nearly half a century, the aggressive advocacy of the Liberals' semi-retired "Grand Old Man" in William Gladstone and optimism about a new day among the voting public led to a hammering of the Conservatives, who lost 80 seats and gave the Liberals the first majority government since Lord Russell's nearly fifteen years earlier. 1878 marked another watershed election - only in the most ardently Protestant strongholds in Ireland did Conservative candidates earn election, an even further fall than the 1873 polls, and most of the rest of Ireland was won by the Irish Parliamentary Party. Liberals dominated in the cities and swept Scotland's boroughs, and nearly did the same in Wales. With 341 seats in Parliament, the Liberals had earned a commanding position, albeit one in which they saw their position in Ireland nearly entirely obliterated save for a handful of boroughs. Despite his long friendship with Gladstone and eminent position in the House of Lords, the Liberal leader Earl Granville stood aside to allow Lord Hartington, the party's leader in the Commons, be Prime Minister, as he recommended in his meeting with Victoria and Arthur when he was called to meet with them the week of the election. Arthur, in his diary, remarked, 'No man can be more commended in this trying hour to stay his course. Granville, who would have made as fine a Prime Minister as Wellington or Peel, stated that this was a victory for the people, born out in the Commons, and the people's government should thus be led from the Commons.' So but hours later, Spencer Cavendish, the Lord Hartington [2], was called after his long spell leading the opposition to Carnarvon's ministry to Buckingham Palace to kiss hands, and thus end the decade-long succession of Tory governments at Downing Street..."


- The Lion of Edinburgh: Prince Arthur, the Empire and the Twilight of the Victorian Age

[1] Once again, an OTL leader exits stage right, so other more forgotten figures of history can have their day in the sun. A very different 19th century Britain without PMs Disraeli, Gladstone or Salisbury
[2] Could have been PM in OTL, but Gladstone always boxed him out
 
The Hamidian Era: The Ottoman Empire 1876-1918
"...the only crisis left to handle for the Sultan, now two years into what would be his 42 year reign - the second-longest behind only Suleiman the Magnificent - was the insurrectionists who had destabilized the Empire in the first place. In this capacity, he paired his progressive commitment to constitutional reform with his legendary ruthlessness. He had partnered with liberal reformists as Crown Prince, but Huseyin Pasha persuaded him - correctly, in all likelihood - that the Empire could not survive another close brush with a European power and only Russian incompetence and inability to press its considerable advantages had allowed the Ottoman Empire to escape. A nightmare scenario of the Porte and Sultans family fleeing to central Anatolia as a new Greek state on both sides of the Aegean was formed by the Great Powers weighed on him, and the Sultan set about on a new round of reforms in the wake of his Constitution.

The Constitution, toothless as it was, did little to prevent the new Parliament from quickly devolving into a nest of factions, and the Sultan-appointed Senate essentially replace the Porte as the Sultan's rubberstamp and a veto-point on too much change. The wave of repression that followed the Ottoman victory over Russia was quieter but in a way more pernicious than the ugly response to Bosnian and Bulgarian uprisings that had triggered the Eastern Crisis. The ranks of the secret police swelled and despite a liberal veneer - necessary to satisfy Istanbul's creditors in Paris and London - the Ottoman state was perhaps even more repressive in the years after the Treaty of Berlin than before. Villages were no longer massacred, but dissidents, their families and even friends were vanished in the night. Abdul Hamid made little distinction between Christian or Muslim in his persecutions - anyone suspected of "sedition or disloyalty to the Sultan and Ottoman Empire," as the law stated, was considered a traitor and "relocated." The secrecy of these matters was paramount - the Ottoman Empire had dug itself into debt and lost thousands, as well as de jure control over Serbia, Montenegro and Romania even in victory. There could not be another Eastern Crisis triggered by mass unrest.

For the most part, though, the Ottoman street was satisfied in the afterglow of their victory over Russia, allowing Abdul Hamid's quiet defanging of the intent of the 1876 Constitution. The Empire had defended itself and won tremendous victories, and was on the verge of a twenty year period of tremendous growth, particularly in Thrace and Bulgaria. This growth would trigger a major migration of peoples in the Balkans, a historic one, as Turks, Greeks and Arabs from Anatolia found their way to the emerging industrial centers of the Empire, and as the Muslim population grew and new arrivals displaced the old, hundreds of thousands of Bulgarians, Serbs, and Greeks would emigrate, often finding their way first to France, Austria or Germany before making their way to the New World instead..."

- The Hamidian Era: The Ottoman Empire 1876-1918
 
Tory rule in Great Britain more or less exploded. There really was no other choice - an electorate denied the ballot and facing economic privations will eventually reach its breaking point.

I imagine the first order of business for the Grand Old Man is to expand voting rights. If he plays his cards right (and there's no reason why he doesn't) Gladstone and the Liberals could be more or less in power for a generation. Makes sense why the late 19th Century is called "The Liberal Ascendancy" after all.
 
Tory rule in Great Britain more or less exploded. There really was no other choice - an electorate denied the ballot and facing economic privations will eventually reach its breaking point.

I imagine the first order of business for the Grand Old Man is to expand voting rights. If he plays his cards right (and there's no reason why he doesn't) Gladstone and the Liberals could be more or less in power for a generation. Makes sense why the late 19th Century is called "The Liberal Ascendancy" after all.

Oh yeah, a Reform Act that finally passes will be huge. There’ll be some major butterflies from Gladstone not being at Downing Street, though, especially on the issue of Ireland...
 
Was just doing some research and it turns out the seat of the Carnarvon family, Highclere Castle, is the setting of Downton Abbey, because of course it is 😂
 
Was just doing some research and it turns out the seat of the Carnarvon family, Highclere Castle, is the setting of Downton Abbey, because of course it is 😂

Need to re-watch that show during the quarantine. The first 1.5-2 seasons were quite good IIRC.

Curious to see what exactly this TTL's British voting reform act details when the time comes.
 
Hendricks: America’s 20th President
“...his 2nd year in office saw the first major expansion of US territory in a decade, as Cox secured the Midway Archipelago in the Pacific as an American coaling station and the United States purchased the Danish West Indies entirely in the Saint Thomas Treaty.
It was also during 1878 that the relatively absentee President Hendricks continued to concede his influence to not just Speaker Marshall, a forgotten titan of the age, but also the young Congressman Bland, who became one of the most aggressive advocates for fully free silver in Congress. Perhaps his most prominent achievement besides the acquisition of new territories and harbors for the Navy was the appointment of Attorney General Phelps to the Supreme Court, a man now considered one of the titans of late 20th century law...”

- Hendricks: America’s 20th President
 
Need to re-watch that show during the quarantine. The first 1.5-2 seasons were quite good IIRC.

Curious to see what exactly this TTL's British voting reform act details when the time comes.
I’m going to do a big update on the new Liberal government and probably not be quite as strict with my year-by-year updates here for the next five years ITL. Lot of big personalities in the new Britain to juggle!
 
Alexander II, Tsar and Autocrat of Russia
"...the recriminations throughout government landed primarily on Grand Duke Nicholas, rather than the military establishment that had supplied its men single-shot rifles that were well over a decade outdated, mismatched clothing, insufficient food and tobacco, and had slow-rolled its mobilization out of hubris and contempt for the enemy. The Russian public seethed and found familiar targets for its anger - Poles, who seemed to be teetering on the cusp of another uprising as it appeared that the Bear may be critically wounded; and the Jews in the Pale of Settlement. Indeed, the four years after 1878 saw probably the worst pogroms of the 19th century [1], and the crackdown on the Polish intelligentsia to stave off another attempted uprising a year after the Treaty of Berlin led to the beginning of the mass wave of emigration from Russia to North America by Poles, Lithuanians, and Jews alike, one of the largest mass movements out of the Empire in history. That was all fine to the court in Moscow - more land for Russian settlers in fertile country, after all. But it did little to alleviate the structural issues that continued to plague the country, and Russia had now lost two wars to the Ottomans, driven itself further into debt, and was now more than ever the laughingstock of Europe. The Black Sea was still demilitarized, and the Ottoman Navy had proved it could and would defend those clauses of the Paris and Berlin treaties aggressively. The Romanians and Serbians, once thought to be future Russian vassals in the Balkans as Orthodox client states, had immediately been hooked into the spheres of influence of Germany and Vienna, respectively. The outright failure and continued national mismanagement by the Tsar and profligacy of the nobility at the expense of the national interest only deepened his feud with his son, already tense over Alexander's choice of wife [2]. And despite repression in the academy as liberals agitated more loudly than ever, out in the countryside the once-reformist Narodniki were radicalized by decades of repression and now the total failure of Russia's imperailist project. The foundation of Narodnaya Volya - People's Will - can be traced directly to the Disaster of Plevna [3]..."

- Alexander II, Tsar and Autocrat of Russia (University of Cambridge, 2001)

[1] A classically Eastern/Central European response to anything going wrong - target the Jews
[2] The father-son dynamic between Alexander II and his successor was really something. All his kids hated the man by the end of his life
[3] Of course we in OTL know this isn't true, since it was founded in 1879 despite a Russian victory, but the people in the world of Cinco de Mayo don't know that ;)
 
Maximilian of Mexico
"...the anti-monarchist movement made itself known in a spectacular assassination attempt, choosing one of the most important days of all to spring their plan - the first communion of Crown Prince Luis Maximiliano, as the Imperial Family and many of the chief ministers emerged from the Mexico City Metropolitan Cathedral, led by Archbishop Labastida himself. The site of the Zocalo for the attempt was important as it was the beating heart of the city and also where Miramon had cracked down so aggressively on protestors during the visit of Archduke Karl Ludwig in 1875. On that bright March morning only two weeks before Easter, gunshots rang out as assassins sprung from the otherwise cheering crowd. Maximilian was grazed, with only a minor cut on his left arm that healed within days; the Empress, Prince Jose Francisco and Princess Maria Carlota were all missed by wide margins. Two bodyguards were killed, and von Benedek had a bullet strike him in the chest and lodge in his lung; only the decision by the doctors not to attempt to remove it saved his life, and even then it forced his retirement and surely hastened his death two years later. The true tragedy of the morning though was the bullet that clipped the handsome 10-year old [1] Crown Prince in the face, costing him his left eye and leaving a scar that would run along the side of the future Emperor's [2] head, also mutilating his ear, for the rest of his life. Only the fortuitousness of luck changed the course of history that day, for had Luis Maximiliano perished, then surely the Empire would have died when his father passed several decades later [3] and it came time to elevate the severely mentally incompetent Jose Francisco to the throne. Empress Carlota's screams pierced the morning alongside the gunshots from the Imperial Guard, many of which hit stray attendees in the crowd. Many of "Zocalista" assassins were captured and immediately sent to the firing squad by an outraged Emperor.

That morning in 1878 would mark a major turning point for the formerly naive and laissez-faire Emperor. With the more strong-fisted Mejia in charge now, the angered Maximilian swore to stamp out republicanism permanently, and ordered the
Rurales [4] to augment the Army's efforts to crush any sedition in the countryside, particularly the north and west where Diaz had held sway a decade earlier. The sudden show of force by the central government, combined with edicts later in 1878 by Maximilian both expanding the size of the already toothless rubberstamp Imperial Assembly while further curtailing its powers, thus further diluting the influence of tacitly friendly rural departments, angered many of the caudillos who both officially and unofficially governed provincial Mexico as personal fiefdoms..."

- Maximilian of Mexico


[1] I think I had Luis Maximiliano born in 1868 but I'm not positive... 10 isn't too young for first communion is it?
[2] Bit of a flashforward
[3] Tee-hee not telling you exactly how many
[4] Here we're assuming Max eventually merges the Guardia Rural with his Resguardo. Besides, I like the name "rurales" better
 
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