qing china

  1. Britain sacks Beijing in Second Opium War

    Initially the Qing Dynasty only accepted silver in trade. To bypass this the British East India Company smuggled Opium into China. In 1839 China burned the company's Opium store house. The Company retailed with the world' first Iron steam-warship Nemesis. It captured Nanjing in 1842 and...
  2. If the Tokugawa Shogunate survives would the Qing collapse?

    After the loss in the First Sino-Japanese War, the Qing created the New Army which was the best trained & equipped, the revolutionaries managed to infiltrate the ranks of the army and played an essential role in the rebellion that overthrew the Qing in 1911 and created the Republic of China. If...
  3. What if, as a part of the Guanxu Emperor's reforms, he had the Dowager Regent eliminated?

    Let's say the kid was about 20-25% more savvy and knew she'd be trouble. Assuming the medium to best possible outcomes, what would the "Chinese Meiji Period" look like?
  4. JaguarCD

    Altering the Qing dynasty so the Chinese Civil War would be less of a bloody slog?

    What events would need to be changed during the late Qing era so the future warring factions would fight for a shorter time and without killing nearly as many civilians?
  5. GameBawesome

    WI: Hong Xiuquan passes the Imperial Examinations

    Hong Xiuquan is most infamously known for being the guy that started the Taiping Rebellion against the Manchu Qing Dynasty, which devastated China with untold amount of casualties. He is also known for having visions, and proclaiming himself the Son of God and the Brother of Jesus Christ, and...
  6. Otaku Von Bismarck

    WI: No Unequal Treaties on Qing

    So how would China develop if there were no unequal treaties forced on them during the 1800s like no Opium Wars, no Eight-Nations Alliance, not losing Outer Manchuria, etc; maybe just losing Korea and Taiwan to Japan.
  7. The Qing dynasty legalizes opium?

    In the years leading up to the First Opium War, a debate occurred within the Qing government over how the opium problem should be addressed, with one side arguing for its legalization (so that the state could tax it and thus give some much needed cash to the treasury) and another for harsher...
  8. What would a Taiping China look like?

    Like it says on the tin. Suppose that Hong Xiuquan passes the imperial Chinese examinations the first time (instead of trying four times and failing), and becomes a scholar-bureaucrat who holds an administrative post somewhere in Guangdong. This means he's not insane (or is at least less so than...
  9. AHC: Provide foreign aid to the Sepoy Mutiny of 1857

    I am studying more about the Rebellion in India against the British East India company starting in 1857. As well as other wars involving the British Empire around that time in such as the First Anglo Afghan War, the First and Second Anglo-Sikh wars, Crimean war, Anglo-Persian War, 2nd Opium war...
  10. Taunay

    WI: Different First Opium War

    Even though the First Opium War was the symptom of a declining China that was being more negatively seen by Western powers, it was by no means inevitable. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Opium_War#Parliamentary_debates What if the motion passes and the Government decides to not continue...
  11. Taunay

    WI: Kangxi dies in 1687

    Kangxi is considered by most historians as one of the greatest emperors of China. He was the third of the Qing dynasty and his reign was marked by increasing prosperity. However, in 1687 he was suffering from malaria and was saved by one Jesuit priest (He had very friendly relations with them)...
  12. Otaku Von Bismarck

    WI: Qing-Russia war in 1858

    Back in 1858 the Qings were fighting Hong's Taiping Heavenly Kingdom since 1850 and also where on the course of losing the Second Opium War, Seeing this context Russia threatened to invade if the Qings were not to cede the northern half of Outer Manchuria. Qing China agreed and ceded the...
  13. Legacy of the Magnanimous
    Threadmarks: A Prince Survives

    From “Independência ou Morte: A History of the Empire of Brazil” by Paulo Branco The birth of Pedro’s son and heir apparent, Dom Alfonso, in 1845, was celebrated throughout the Empire. Alfonso was even nicknamed “o príncipe perfeito”(the perfect prince), just like his father “o magnânimo”(the...
  14. AHC: Reverse China Immigration

    With any pod between 1450-1850, have Americans be immigrating to China rather than otl's Chinese migration. A likely destination for settlement (for those who aren't just temporarily trying to strike it rich in the cities anyway) would be the Xinjiang region. How likely is it that the American...
  15. WI: Wu Sangui lived a little longer?

    The Revolt of the Three Feudatories was a major early test of the Qing Dynasty, where a number of major Han Chinese viceroys under Qing revolted in a supposed attempt to restore the Ming dynasty. They were led by Wu Sangui, a former Ming general who had ironically enough defected to Qing and won...
  16. What if the First Sino-Japanese War of 1894-1895 was a stalemate?

    I have read other threads on other sites that covered this topic, which mostly explore if China won. I argue that had conditions been different, instead of a Chinese victory, there would be a stalemate between both Japan and China. In this scenario, Japan would still win on the seas but their...
  17. Alliance between China, Germany, and the US

    With a pod in 1820, how can we get an alliance between the United states, a Prussian Germany, and a modernized Qing? What smaller allies would also be part of this pact, how would the coming great war between powers go, and what will the world look like after?
  18. European chinise dynasty ?

    I just watching a YouTube video about the mandate of of heaven saying that in the second opium war when the Europeans took beijing some of the population consider this as a sing that the current dynasty had lost the mandate of heaven . Not only that but the occupation to some proved the...
  19. AHC: Qing North and Buddhist South China

    This one might need a little imagination. By 1950, how can we get a Russia backed north Chinese Qing monarchy and a India backed south Chinese Buddhist theocracy. Bonus if both are totalitarian states. The pod can be early as needed for this to happen.
  20. How could the Wuxu coup have been stopped?

    From June 11 to September 22,1898, during the so-called "Hundred Days Reform", the Guangxu Emperor ( Emperor of China who only had real power from from 1889-1898) and his supporters tried to modernize and reform China, but it ended before anything could truly be achieved when on September 22...
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