American Magic: A Different History of Disney

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  1. OldNavy1988 Well-Known Member

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    Pinocchio comes to home video
    "When you wish upon a star..."

    (Voiceover; spoken over footage of the film)
    "Whoever dreamed when you were a child, that this enchanting fantasy about a puppet who wants to be a real boy, could be your very own?"

    (Voiceover)
    "Walt Disney's Pinocchio, now on home video!"

    (Jiminy)
    "Whew! What they can't do these days!"

    (Voiceover)
    "To keep, to share with your family, home at last!"

    A star shines and an aura of white light fills the screen. We then zoom out to the big star in what is revealed to be the cover art, with the box on a workshop table with a hammer, wood blocks and shavings.
    Next to the video box, in white text reads, "A Classic from Walt Disney Home Video."

    (Voiceover)
    Pinocchio,
    from Walt Disney Home Video.

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    "It took a lot of poking and prodding to convince my father to let Pinocchio be released on video. To him, it was one of his babies, but we knew fully well that the world was slowly changing. Home video was becoming more and more popular, and sooner or later, there was going to be a point where theatrical reissues were already becoming a thing of the past."
    - Diane Disney Miller (1990 interview)

    "With the numbers of copies we were selling of the more contemporary titles, whether it was The Empire Strikes Back, or The Secret of NIMH, we knew, sooner or later, people were going to clamor for the older titles to be made available. Snow White was one we talked about when we first launched the Classics line two years earlier, but Walt wasn't ready to bring that one out yet, else we would've spoiled the golden anniversary that was coming up in '87, which he proved to be right. It was Frank Wells who finally stood up and called Walt out on his reluctance to bring out the titles he claimed were 'untouchable.' Frank basically said to Walt that a lot of the classics, Pinocchio included, were not really making any money sitting idly in the vaults. While Frank acknowledged the theatrical reissue of Pinocchio the previous Christmas had done pretty well, he finally sold Walt on the idea that the returns would only diminish with changes in consumer habits, and that Walt could not hold out forever."
    - Peter Schneider (1994 Rolling Stone interview)

    "Jim Jimirro, who was then the head of Disney's video division, wanted to charge the same amount for Pinocchio as they had done earlier with the original Star Wars, which in those days was $79.95 each for videocassettes and $34.95 for videodiscs. So on that day, Roy fired Jimirro and brought me on board to replace him. At the time Disney put out Pinocchio for the first time on video, Roy and Michael Eisner, my old boss at Paramount, sat together on the CalArts board. When Michael and I worked together for Barry Diller, we pulled off a lot of video sales bonanzas by simply marking the prices way lower than what the other studios were charging. After Mike took the ABC job, we had parents buying Hanna Barbera tapes for their kids by the bucketload. Hence, Michael's recommendation to Roy that I take over home video operations at the Mouse Factory."
    - Bill Mechanic; President of Walt Disney Home Video (1987 interview)
     
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  2. Nivek Resident Videogame Expert

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    And the Jets? and nobody would care about East Rutherdorf when the giants are out that city.
     
  3. Goldwind2 Well-Known Member

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    Oh yay i forgot that the jets and the Gaint share the same home staduim. Trump would feel that people that people would care about east rutherford even when he replaies the medowlands with a park that out does disney world
     
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  4. Nivek Resident Videogame Expert

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    Well the jets would either share the stadium with giants or move back to shea, and that is the feat itself.
     
  5. Goldwind2 Well-Known Member

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    Do you that the medowlands sport complex has enough land for a disney world rivalring park. I know it has a lot of land because there buting a new mega mall next to it. Can you think of any other places in the newyork tri star that could how a huge themepark
     
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    Meadowlands is just the stadium, the izod center(now abandoned, that is where they're building that megamall) and the rest is just that...meadows, so yeah is a big open space.
     
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    Can you think of any other places in the newyork tri state that could house a huge themepark
     
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    Well i guess we need competition: Hyperion should adapt The African
     
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    Flushing Meadows-Corona Park. It's got more than enough space to fit every single Disney park currently existing.
     
  10. HonestAbe1809 Abraham Lincoln 2020

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    Or an earlier adaptation of Twelve Years A Slave.
     
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    A the Billie jean king arena and Shea stadium?
     
  12. HonestAbe1809 Abraham Lincoln 2020

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    The park is still over 300 hectacres in size. That's still enough room for a theme park if they keep around the old World's Fair grounds. The '64 World's Fair used 261 ha. The Magic Kingdom, on the other hand, only uses 43.
     
  13. Cl0wn_Dud3 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah 12 Years Would be better since I have a really good casting for it.
     
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  14. OldNavy1988 Well-Known Member

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    I don't know if we've already settled on it, but do we have a release date for The Thief and the Cobbler?
     
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    I'm thinking August 25th, 1985 just for the synchronicity of having it be released a full decade earlier. Hopefully, this version of Cobbler only has one cut.
     
  16. OldNavy1988 Well-Known Member

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    Would this one cut be similar to the Recobbled Cut that surfaced years after Miramax put out their version IOTL?
     
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    You mean the Recobbled Cut? Yes. I'm thinking that with a shorter production period it'd be closer to Williams' original vision than the original theatrical release was. There'd be no need for some special cut to restore the film if it's released as Williams originally intended it to. The biggest clusterfuck in film animation would hopefully be avoided ITTL.
     
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  18. OldNavy1988 Well-Known Member

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    What changes did Fred Calvert make that I could butterfly?

    With an August '85 release of The Thief and the Cobbler, that leaves the Thanksgiving '92 slot open for whatever can be filled to replace Aladdin. I'm thinking either The Rescuers Down Under or something else entirely. I'll put out a list of possible Aladdin replacements tomorrow.
     
  19. HonestAbe1809 Abraham Lincoln 2020

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    Pretty much all of them. Calvert was only assigned to the project to get it out of the door as cheaply and as quickly as possible in the last couple years of production. With the production shortened to a more manageable period, his "services" wouldn't be needed and Williams's vision can be produced unmolested.
     
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  20. OldNavy1988 Well-Known Member

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    So with a release date of August 25, 1985 with distribution by The Samuel Goldwyn Company, I guess The Thief and the Cobbler will likely be my next big update.
     
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