A New Balance
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Republic of Venezuela, 1937
Republic of Venezuela
Government Type: Constitutional Republic (On paper), Military Dictatorship (In Reality)
Head of State: President Joel Prospero [1][2]
Head of Government: President Joel Prospero
Power Status: Middle Power
Population: ~4,048,384 (1937 Projected)
Minister of War: General Teodulo Elias
Minister of Navy: Admiral Berto Tristan
Minister of Air: General Natalio Rafael
Chief of the General Staff: General Baldomero Paco
Conscription:
All men 21 years of age are called up for a six month training period. Following this six months, enough conscriptions are kept to maintain current force levels if not enough volunteers are there. Only those going into the clergy are exemptions without questions. Exemptions besides those going into the clergy or already in it are made on a case by case base it by recruiting officers. The system is surprising fairly low in corruption. This is mainly because manpower officers who are caught taking brides are hung.
Army
Army Chief of Staff: General Agustin Bermudo
Unit Strength:
5 Infantry Divisions, 3 Jungle Infantry Divisions
Equipment:
Small Arms
Venezuela unlike the Great or even regional powers hadn’t been able to upgrade the bulk of their small arms since the end of the Great War. It however has been using money gained via the oil fields at Lake Maracaibo to slowly upgrade their armed forces as well the nation itself. This includes the arsenal being built in Valencia with the help from the German Empire to start local production of small arms in Venezuela. This arsenal is projected to start building weapons in late 1937.
For its standard rifle the Venezuelan Army makes use of the Austro-Hungarian Mannlicher M1895. At the moment there are no plans to replace the M1895 in the near future. Officers within Venezuela have to buy their own side arms, however NCOs and others who are in need of pistols the Venezuelan Army issues the German Mauser C95[3] pistol. Venezuela is currently looking at replacements for these pistols and testing is underway with designs form the United States, Belgium, France, Germany, and Italy with production being planned to take happen at the Valencia Arsenal.
The goal through for the Valencia Arsenal is the production of the German design MP-35[4] submachine gun. Once production starts at Valencia the goal is to replace the four different submachine guns currently in use by the Venezuelan Army. For its standard light machinegun, the Venezuelan Army uses the American BAR. For its heavier machine gun they still use different versions of the famous Maxim machine gun, but studies are underway for a lighter replacement. French, German, and Italian models are being looked at.
Infantry Support Weapons
In support weapons for their infantry the Venezuelan Army got something of a late start. It wasn’t till 1925 that they inked a deal with the French for their first modern hand grenades, the French F1. These are still in common use within the Army and showing no signs of needing a replacement. In the aftermath of the Great War they brought a number of Infantry mortars from the British in 1922 as a means to upgrade their firepower. However, they soon found that mortars the British sold them were next to worthless and were quickly phased out of service.
Following the British Mortar fiasco the Venezuelans turned around and brought heavier and less mobile German 7.6 cm Minenwerfer on the cheap as the Germans were retiring these for their own rip offs of the British design which set the standard for modern mortars. They were happy with the choice of the Minenwerfer but they worked. Which was more than could be said for the British mortars they had brought. In 1933 the Venezuelan Army started to phase out the Minenwerfer and placed in reserve units for French made 60 and 81 mm mortars which had set the standard for mortars worldwide. These are still being brought at a low rate to fill out the needs of the army and create a reserve. Current projections have this being finished by 1943.
Artillery
Currently all of the standard tube artillery in service in the Venezuelan Army pre-dates the Great War. Most their artillery is German in origin and from Krupp. The most common of these if the 7.5 cm Model 1903 which is found in every division formation within the Venezuelan Army. Currently these artillery pieces are being upgraded to more modern standards, however due to cost reasons it will still be another few years before all of the guns in Venezuela are upgraded to 03/32 standards. These are generally paired with the 10.5 cm Feldhaubitze 98/05[5]. These guns were brought from Germany in the mid-1920s and before they were shipped to Venezuela they were refurbished by the Germans. However only the standard infantry divisions are equipped with these howitzers.
However, Venezuela is totally lacking for anti-goliath guns at the moment. This is primary because the only nation that Venezuela shares a land border with that fields goliaths is the Brazilian Empire and the Venezuelans are on friendly turns with them. They do have a small number of M3 Heavy Machine Guns which they brought from the United States for an anti-goliath role, and given they at most they are facing armored cars this is good enough. For anti-air artillery besides the M3s which a few are being brought every year, they have just inked a deal with Italy for their Cannone da 90/53 and the United States for their M7 Cannons. The deal is 25 of the 90 mm cannons and 100 M7s.
Air Force
Air Force Chief of Staff: Lt General Nicodemo Moises
Aircraft Strength:
121 Front Line Combat Aircraft
Equipment:
P-36
Crew: 1
Engine: 9 cylinder, radical
Top Speed: 236 mph
Range: 350 miles
Service Ceiling: 27,000 ft
Armament: 2 x M1919 Machine Guns and up to 200 lbs of ordnance
Entered Service: 1932
Brought from the United States
CR 35
Crew: 1
Engine: V-12, liquid cooled
Top Speed: 228 mph
Range: 500 miles
Service Ceiling: 29,000 ft
Armament: 2 x M1919 Machine Guns and up to 220 lbs of ordnance
Entered Service: 1933
Brought from Italy
Close Air Support
CL XIX
Crew: 1
Engine: 9 cylinder, radical
Top Speed: 209 mph
Range: 500 miles
Service Ceiling: 30,000 ft
Armament: 2 x M1919 Machine Guns and up to 992 lbs of ordnance
Entered Service: 1931
Brought From Germany
Navy
Chief of Naval Operations: Vice Admiral Jenaro Joaquin
Total Strength:
Active
1 Light Cruiser (Italian Built)
4 Destroyers (Ex-French)
6 Destroyers (Ex-American)
2 Destroyers (American Built)
2 Submarines (Ex-German)
Pre-commission work ups/Fitting Out/Slip Way/Ordered
1 Light Cruiser (Italian Built)
[1] He is smart, cunning, and not corrupt. The best way to put Prospero is he a smart bastard who cares about the future of his nation. He further doesn’t suffer fools well.
[2] Venezuela for a number of reasons is on a different path and none of the people here are based on OTL people. As such no numbers beside every person.
[3] Mauser C96
[4] The MP-38
[5] 10.5 cm Feldhaubitze 98/09
Government Type: Constitutional Republic (On paper), Military Dictatorship (In Reality)
Head of State: President Joel Prospero [1][2]
Head of Government: President Joel Prospero
Power Status: Middle Power
Population: ~4,048,384 (1937 Projected)
Minister of War: General Teodulo Elias
Minister of Navy: Admiral Berto Tristan
Minister of Air: General Natalio Rafael
Chief of the General Staff: General Baldomero Paco
Conscription:
All men 21 years of age are called up for a six month training period. Following this six months, enough conscriptions are kept to maintain current force levels if not enough volunteers are there. Only those going into the clergy are exemptions without questions. Exemptions besides those going into the clergy or already in it are made on a case by case base it by recruiting officers. The system is surprising fairly low in corruption. This is mainly because manpower officers who are caught taking brides are hung.
Army
Army Chief of Staff: General Agustin Bermudo
Unit Strength:
5 Infantry Divisions, 3 Jungle Infantry Divisions
Equipment:
Small Arms
Venezuela unlike the Great or even regional powers hadn’t been able to upgrade the bulk of their small arms since the end of the Great War. It however has been using money gained via the oil fields at Lake Maracaibo to slowly upgrade their armed forces as well the nation itself. This includes the arsenal being built in Valencia with the help from the German Empire to start local production of small arms in Venezuela. This arsenal is projected to start building weapons in late 1937.
For its standard rifle the Venezuelan Army makes use of the Austro-Hungarian Mannlicher M1895. At the moment there are no plans to replace the M1895 in the near future. Officers within Venezuela have to buy their own side arms, however NCOs and others who are in need of pistols the Venezuelan Army issues the German Mauser C95[3] pistol. Venezuela is currently looking at replacements for these pistols and testing is underway with designs form the United States, Belgium, France, Germany, and Italy with production being planned to take happen at the Valencia Arsenal.
The goal through for the Valencia Arsenal is the production of the German design MP-35[4] submachine gun. Once production starts at Valencia the goal is to replace the four different submachine guns currently in use by the Venezuelan Army. For its standard light machinegun, the Venezuelan Army uses the American BAR. For its heavier machine gun they still use different versions of the famous Maxim machine gun, but studies are underway for a lighter replacement. French, German, and Italian models are being looked at.
Infantry Support Weapons
In support weapons for their infantry the Venezuelan Army got something of a late start. It wasn’t till 1925 that they inked a deal with the French for their first modern hand grenades, the French F1. These are still in common use within the Army and showing no signs of needing a replacement. In the aftermath of the Great War they brought a number of Infantry mortars from the British in 1922 as a means to upgrade their firepower. However, they soon found that mortars the British sold them were next to worthless and were quickly phased out of service.
Following the British Mortar fiasco the Venezuelans turned around and brought heavier and less mobile German 7.6 cm Minenwerfer on the cheap as the Germans were retiring these for their own rip offs of the British design which set the standard for modern mortars. They were happy with the choice of the Minenwerfer but they worked. Which was more than could be said for the British mortars they had brought. In 1933 the Venezuelan Army started to phase out the Minenwerfer and placed in reserve units for French made 60 and 81 mm mortars which had set the standard for mortars worldwide. These are still being brought at a low rate to fill out the needs of the army and create a reserve. Current projections have this being finished by 1943.
Artillery
Currently all of the standard tube artillery in service in the Venezuelan Army pre-dates the Great War. Most their artillery is German in origin and from Krupp. The most common of these if the 7.5 cm Model 1903 which is found in every division formation within the Venezuelan Army. Currently these artillery pieces are being upgraded to more modern standards, however due to cost reasons it will still be another few years before all of the guns in Venezuela are upgraded to 03/32 standards. These are generally paired with the 10.5 cm Feldhaubitze 98/05[5]. These guns were brought from Germany in the mid-1920s and before they were shipped to Venezuela they were refurbished by the Germans. However only the standard infantry divisions are equipped with these howitzers.
However, Venezuela is totally lacking for anti-goliath guns at the moment. This is primary because the only nation that Venezuela shares a land border with that fields goliaths is the Brazilian Empire and the Venezuelans are on friendly turns with them. They do have a small number of M3 Heavy Machine Guns which they brought from the United States for an anti-goliath role, and given they at most they are facing armored cars this is good enough. For anti-air artillery besides the M3s which a few are being brought every year, they have just inked a deal with Italy for their Cannone da 90/53 and the United States for their M7 Cannons. The deal is 25 of the 90 mm cannons and 100 M7s.
Air Force
Air Force Chief of Staff: Lt General Nicodemo Moises
Aircraft Strength:
121 Front Line Combat Aircraft
Equipment:
P-36
Crew: 1
Engine: 9 cylinder, radical
Top Speed: 236 mph
Range: 350 miles
Service Ceiling: 27,000 ft
Armament: 2 x M1919 Machine Guns and up to 200 lbs of ordnance
Entered Service: 1932
Brought from the United States
CR 35
Crew: 1
Engine: V-12, liquid cooled
Top Speed: 228 mph
Range: 500 miles
Service Ceiling: 29,000 ft
Armament: 2 x M1919 Machine Guns and up to 220 lbs of ordnance
Entered Service: 1933
Brought from Italy
Close Air Support
CL XIX
Crew: 1
Engine: 9 cylinder, radical
Top Speed: 209 mph
Range: 500 miles
Service Ceiling: 30,000 ft
Armament: 2 x M1919 Machine Guns and up to 992 lbs of ordnance
Entered Service: 1931
Brought From Germany
Navy
Chief of Naval Operations: Vice Admiral Jenaro Joaquin
Total Strength:
Active
1 Light Cruiser (Italian Built)
4 Destroyers (Ex-French)
6 Destroyers (Ex-American)
2 Destroyers (American Built)
2 Submarines (Ex-German)
Pre-commission work ups/Fitting Out/Slip Way/Ordered
1 Light Cruiser (Italian Built)
[1] He is smart, cunning, and not corrupt. The best way to put Prospero is he a smart bastard who cares about the future of his nation. He further doesn’t suffer fools well.
[2] Venezuela for a number of reasons is on a different path and none of the people here are based on OTL people. As such no numbers beside every person.
[3] Mauser C96
[4] The MP-38
[5] 10.5 cm Feldhaubitze 98/09
Empire of Brazil, 1937
Empire of Brazil
Government Type: Constitutional Monarchy
Head of State: Dom Pedro the Third [1]
Head of Government: Prime Minister Carlos Maria [2]
Power Status: Great Power
Population: 46,203,193 (1937 Projected)
Minister of War: Lino Renato
Minister of Navy: Lucio Lucas
Minister of Air: Rodolfo Raul
Chief of the General Staff: General Hernan Reyes
Conscription:
Following the fall of Peru to the communist in 1928 saw Brazil restarted conscription which ended in 1921 as it was clear then that the Treaty of New York would hold. With the growing unrest in Colombia the rate of conscription was increased along with time served in 1936. Time served in the army and marines when from 12 months to 18 months with the air force and navy conscription time frames being increased from 24 to 36 months. Like other great powers service is done by class and is currently set at people who are during 21 years of age.
Army
Army Chief of Staff: Fausto Alvaro
Unit Strength:
12 Infantry Divisions, 6 Jungle Infantry Divisions, 1 Armored Brigade, 1 Airborne Battalion
Equipment:
Small Arms
In 1932 Brazil took a major step forward in their own domestic small arms industry when the Brazilian Army fielded the Modelo de Rifle 32[3]. Even through many other great powers are making the switch to semi-automatic rifles the Modelo de Rifle 32 is a bolt action rifle. It is the first domestically designed and built weapon to enter service with the Brazilian Army. It is further well design for defending Brazil as it is a strong and reliable weapon. Currently only just under half of the Brazilian Army is equipped with the rifle. This was followed up in 1936 with the fielding of the Modelo de Pistola 36[4]. Unlike with their rifle which they designed the Brazilian 7mm rifle cartridge for in their pistol which was domestically design they decided to adopt the German 9 mm Parabellum round for use in Brazil. The pistol is well like by those who have been issued it.
Even through Brazil has started a program to make its own designed and built small arms this part of a long term plan to give Brazil the ability to make its own arms and end its dependence on foreign sources of weapons, a lesson learn from the Great War. But this takes time. In 1922 Brazil signed a license deal with Germany for the rights to make their MP-17 submachine gun[5]. It was this call that help influence Brazil to make use of the 9mm Parabellum round for their submachine gun. Even through the MP-17 is still being made in Brazil, work has already started in designing a domestic replacement for it. The standard issue machine gun is still adoptions of the well known of the Maxim Machine Gun. They had made efforts to lighten the design but it is still a heavy weapon and with the failure of the domestic machine gun project in 1936 in which two testers were injured the Brazilian Army is looking at the possibly of buying another license to make a replacement for the Maxim. This is for both the light machine gun and more general machine gun that the Brazilian Army is seeking.
Infantry Support Weapons
In the wake of the Great War Brazil when out and started to get better equipment for their army as the war had found them totally unready to fight a modern war. It was one of the many reasons the Brazilians took part in no land fighting outside the Guianas. In 1922 they stuck a deal with Germany for a license to make their Stielhandgranate Model 21[6] in Brazil along with the rights to the MP-17. They further brought a few hundred 7.6 cm Minenwerfers to give their infantry troops better firepower.
For the bulk of the 1920s these weapons made up the whole of the infantry support weapons in the Brazilian Army. Following the Peru to communist the Brazilian Army started looking at upgrading its arsenal. But the Depression of 28 delayed them buying new weapons. In 1932 they brought licenses to make French 60 and 81 mm mortars and started to phase out the Minenwerfer. In 1936 they inked a deal with Germany to make locally the Flammenwerfer 33[7].
On the domestic front the Brazilian Army fielded Minas Terrestres 34. The MT34 is a very simple wooden mine with a crush detonator that will set off the mine. The MT34 is being stock piled but hasn’t been put into the ground as the lifespan of the MT34 once it is in the ground. Work is underway on a more standard anti-personal mines and anti-goliath mines.
Artillery
Even before the Great War Brazil was trying to build up its domestic arms industry, this included artillery. Just before the Great War started Brazil signed a license to start making the 75 mm Model 15. The 75 mm Model 15 is a mountain gun and is the first major artillery piece to be made in Brazil. Currently is paired with the 10 cm M.14 Howitzers with the first units being fielded just before the start of the Great War. The rest were sent to Brazil after the Great War. Both of these designs had been upgraded in Brazil during the early 1930s.
In the aftermath of the war they brought surplus German 7.7 cm FK 96 n.A. field guns and 10.5 cm Feldhaubitze 98/05 as they were being replaced by more modern guns in the German Army. These guns were refurbished by the Germans and then starting in the early 1930s upgraded by the Brazilians. Even through Brazil has the most artillery in service in South America at the moment they have started a program to start making a domestic 7.5 cm ish field gun. This is still very early in the design phase. They are looking at buying licenses for 10.5 and 15 cm howitzers and a 10.5 cm field gun.
For anti-goliath gun the Brazilians are using a domestic design known as the AGG 25[9]. The AGG 25 is a 25 mm bore weapon which makes it one of the lighter anti-goliath guns in service anywhere in the world. It also was the first artillery piece domestically and fielded artillery piece by Brazil. Its believed its enough to deal with any armor that Brazil with. For anti-aircraft weapons the Brazilians make a license built M3 Machine Gun. They are currently in talks with the Kingdom of Sweden for their 40 mm autocannon both to buy from Sweden and license built in Brazil. They are buying 8.8 cm Flak 33s[10] from Germany at a low rate of 5 to 10 every year to give them heavy anti-air abilities. The Brazilian Army would like to make the Flak 33 domestically but they lack the spare capacity to make it.
Light Goliath
Type 1 Light Goliath
Weight: 5.3 t
Crew: 2 (Commander, Driver)
Armor: up to 17 mm
Main Armament: M3 Heavy Machine Gun (Type 1A), Flamethrower (Type 1B), AGG 25 (Type 1C)
Secondary Armament: Maxim Machine Gun
Engine: Inline Four, Diesel (German License built engine)
Operational Range: 200 km
Speed: 46 km/h
Entered Service in 1936
Air Force
Air Force Chief of Staff: General Henrique Breno
Aircraft Strength:
1,103 front line aircraft
Equipment:
Fighters
D XXV
Crew: 1
Powerplant: V-12, Liquid Cooled
Top Speed: 550 km/h
Range: 800 km
Service Ceiling: 9,450 m
Armament: 2 x 13mm machine guns, 1 x 20 mm cannon, and up to 150 kg of ordnance
Entered Service: 1936
Kit Built in Brazil, Kits brought from Germany
C-58
Crew: 1
Powerplant: 14 cylinder, radical
Top Speed: 513 km/h
Range: 500 km
Service Ceiling: 10,500 m
Armament: 2 x 13 mm machine guns and up to 100 kg of ordnance
Entered Service: 1935
Kit Built in Brazil, Kits brought from Italy
Close Air Support
CL XIX
Crew: 1
Engine: 9 cylinder, radical
Top Speed: 209 mph
Range: 500 miles
Service Ceiling: 30,000 ft
Armament: 2 x M1919 Machine Guns and up to 992 lbs of ordnance
Entered Service: 1930
Kit Built in Brazil, Kits brought from Germany
Tactical Bombers
GL XV
Crew: 4 (Pilot, Bombardier/Navigator, Flight Engineer/Gunner, Radio Operator/Gunner)
Powerplant: 2 x Opposing Six, liquid cooled, diesel
Top Speed: 429 km/h
Range: 1,600 km
Service Ceiling: 13,000 m
Armament: 3 x 13 mm Machine Guns and up to 1,000 kg of ordnance
Entered Service: 1935
Kit Built in Brazil, Kits brought from Germany
Hurricane
Crew: 3 (Pilot, Bombardier/Navigator, Radio Operator/Gunner)
Powerplant: 2 x 9 cylinder radicals
Top Speed: 431 km/h
Range: 2,400 km
Service Ceiling: 8,900 m
Armament: 2 x 13 mm Machine Guns and up to 600 kg of ordnance
Entered Service: 1937
Kit Built in Brazil, Kits brought from Britain
Navy
Chief of Naval Operations: Eleuterio Almir
Total Strength:
4 Battleships
2 Battlecruisers
2 Light Battlecruisers
1 Light Aircraft Carriers
6 Heavy Cruisers (2 German, 4 British)
10 Light Cruisers (2 German, 6 American, 2 Domestic with American Help)
34 Destroyers
22 Submarines
Pre-commission work ups/Fitting Out/Slip Way/Laid Down/Ordered
2 Battleships
2 Light Cruisers (Domestic With American Help)
6 Destroyers
2 Submarines
2 River Monitors
Reserve
1 Battleship
4 Light Cruisers (British)
Ship Overview (Cap Ships and Carriers)
Battleships
Minas Geraes Class Battleships, British Built
20,500 tons displacement, coal fired boilers, turbine driven, 21 knots, 12 x 12/45s in twin turrets, 16 x 4.7/50s in casemates, 4 x 4.5/45s in single mounts
SMN Minas Geraes, reserves
SMN São Paulo, slated to be decommissioned by the end of 1937
SMN Rio de Janeiro, slated to be decommissioned in early to mid 1938
Parana Class Battleships, German Built
34,700 tons displacement, oil fired boilers, turbine driven, 23 knots (23.5 knots trials), 8 x 38cm L/45s in twin turrets, 14 x 15 cm L/45s in casemates, 4 x 8.8 cm L/45s in single mounts
SMN Parana
SMN Ceara
Goias Class Battleships, British Built
44,100 tons displacement, oil fired boilers, turbine driven, 29 knots, 9 x 16.5/52s in triple turrets, 8 x 5.25/50s in twin turrets, 24 x QF 2 pdr AA Guns in Quad Mounts
Goias, Pre-commission work ups
Para, Fitting Out
Battlecruisers
Catarina Class Battlecruisers, German Built
28,900 tons, oil fired boilers, turbine driven, 30 knots, 8 x 38cm L/45s in twin turrets, 16 x 15cm L/45s in casemates, 4 x 8.8cm L/45s in single mounts
SMN Catarina
SMN Paraiba
Light Battlecruisers
Bahia Class, British Built
22,800 tons displacement, oil fired boilers, turbine driven, 31 knots, 6 x 15/42s in triple mounts, 12 x 5.5/50s in twin mounts, 4 x 4.5/45s in single mounts
SMN Bahia
SMN Goias
Light Aircraft Carriers
Manaus Class Light Aircraft Carriers, Italian Built
13,200 tons displacement, oil fired boilers, 31 knots, 2 x 211mm L/53s in twin mount, 4 x 120mm L/50s in twin mounts, 32 Aircraft
SMN Manaus
Marine Corp
Commandant of the Corp: Brigadier Octavio Gustavo
Unit Strength:
1 Marine Brigade
[1] Again Brazilians on this list aren’t based on anyone save for Dom Pedro. Dom Pedro is loosely based off Dona Isabel’s oldest son.
[2] Maria has been said to be the Brazilian Bismarck ITL.
[3] MAS-36 in what is known ITL as Brazilian 7mm (6.92 x 52).
[4] SIG Sauer P210
[5] MP-18
[6] Model 24
[7] Flammenwerfer 35
[8] 107 mm gun M1910
[9] 25 mm Hotchkiss AT-gun
[10] 8.8 cm Flak 36
Government Type: Constitutional Monarchy
Head of State: Dom Pedro the Third [1]
Head of Government: Prime Minister Carlos Maria [2]
Power Status: Great Power
Population: 46,203,193 (1937 Projected)
Minister of War: Lino Renato
Minister of Navy: Lucio Lucas
Minister of Air: Rodolfo Raul
Chief of the General Staff: General Hernan Reyes
Conscription:
Following the fall of Peru to the communist in 1928 saw Brazil restarted conscription which ended in 1921 as it was clear then that the Treaty of New York would hold. With the growing unrest in Colombia the rate of conscription was increased along with time served in 1936. Time served in the army and marines when from 12 months to 18 months with the air force and navy conscription time frames being increased from 24 to 36 months. Like other great powers service is done by class and is currently set at people who are during 21 years of age.
Army
Army Chief of Staff: Fausto Alvaro
Unit Strength:
12 Infantry Divisions, 6 Jungle Infantry Divisions, 1 Armored Brigade, 1 Airborne Battalion
Equipment:
Small Arms
In 1932 Brazil took a major step forward in their own domestic small arms industry when the Brazilian Army fielded the Modelo de Rifle 32[3]. Even through many other great powers are making the switch to semi-automatic rifles the Modelo de Rifle 32 is a bolt action rifle. It is the first domestically designed and built weapon to enter service with the Brazilian Army. It is further well design for defending Brazil as it is a strong and reliable weapon. Currently only just under half of the Brazilian Army is equipped with the rifle. This was followed up in 1936 with the fielding of the Modelo de Pistola 36[4]. Unlike with their rifle which they designed the Brazilian 7mm rifle cartridge for in their pistol which was domestically design they decided to adopt the German 9 mm Parabellum round for use in Brazil. The pistol is well like by those who have been issued it.
Even through Brazil has started a program to make its own designed and built small arms this part of a long term plan to give Brazil the ability to make its own arms and end its dependence on foreign sources of weapons, a lesson learn from the Great War. But this takes time. In 1922 Brazil signed a license deal with Germany for the rights to make their MP-17 submachine gun[5]. It was this call that help influence Brazil to make use of the 9mm Parabellum round for their submachine gun. Even through the MP-17 is still being made in Brazil, work has already started in designing a domestic replacement for it. The standard issue machine gun is still adoptions of the well known of the Maxim Machine Gun. They had made efforts to lighten the design but it is still a heavy weapon and with the failure of the domestic machine gun project in 1936 in which two testers were injured the Brazilian Army is looking at the possibly of buying another license to make a replacement for the Maxim. This is for both the light machine gun and more general machine gun that the Brazilian Army is seeking.
Infantry Support Weapons
In the wake of the Great War Brazil when out and started to get better equipment for their army as the war had found them totally unready to fight a modern war. It was one of the many reasons the Brazilians took part in no land fighting outside the Guianas. In 1922 they stuck a deal with Germany for a license to make their Stielhandgranate Model 21[6] in Brazil along with the rights to the MP-17. They further brought a few hundred 7.6 cm Minenwerfers to give their infantry troops better firepower.
For the bulk of the 1920s these weapons made up the whole of the infantry support weapons in the Brazilian Army. Following the Peru to communist the Brazilian Army started looking at upgrading its arsenal. But the Depression of 28 delayed them buying new weapons. In 1932 they brought licenses to make French 60 and 81 mm mortars and started to phase out the Minenwerfer. In 1936 they inked a deal with Germany to make locally the Flammenwerfer 33[7].
On the domestic front the Brazilian Army fielded Minas Terrestres 34. The MT34 is a very simple wooden mine with a crush detonator that will set off the mine. The MT34 is being stock piled but hasn’t been put into the ground as the lifespan of the MT34 once it is in the ground. Work is underway on a more standard anti-personal mines and anti-goliath mines.
Artillery
Even before the Great War Brazil was trying to build up its domestic arms industry, this included artillery. Just before the Great War started Brazil signed a license to start making the 75 mm Model 15. The 75 mm Model 15 is a mountain gun and is the first major artillery piece to be made in Brazil. Currently is paired with the 10 cm M.14 Howitzers with the first units being fielded just before the start of the Great War. The rest were sent to Brazil after the Great War. Both of these designs had been upgraded in Brazil during the early 1930s.
In the aftermath of the war they brought surplus German 7.7 cm FK 96 n.A. field guns and 10.5 cm Feldhaubitze 98/05 as they were being replaced by more modern guns in the German Army. These guns were refurbished by the Germans and then starting in the early 1930s upgraded by the Brazilians. Even through Brazil has the most artillery in service in South America at the moment they have started a program to start making a domestic 7.5 cm ish field gun. This is still very early in the design phase. They are looking at buying licenses for 10.5 and 15 cm howitzers and a 10.5 cm field gun.
For anti-goliath gun the Brazilians are using a domestic design known as the AGG 25[9]. The AGG 25 is a 25 mm bore weapon which makes it one of the lighter anti-goliath guns in service anywhere in the world. It also was the first artillery piece domestically and fielded artillery piece by Brazil. Its believed its enough to deal with any armor that Brazil with. For anti-aircraft weapons the Brazilians make a license built M3 Machine Gun. They are currently in talks with the Kingdom of Sweden for their 40 mm autocannon both to buy from Sweden and license built in Brazil. They are buying 8.8 cm Flak 33s[10] from Germany at a low rate of 5 to 10 every year to give them heavy anti-air abilities. The Brazilian Army would like to make the Flak 33 domestically but they lack the spare capacity to make it.
Light Goliath
Type 1 Light Goliath
Weight: 5.3 t
Crew: 2 (Commander, Driver)
Armor: up to 17 mm
Main Armament: M3 Heavy Machine Gun (Type 1A), Flamethrower (Type 1B), AGG 25 (Type 1C)
Secondary Armament: Maxim Machine Gun
Engine: Inline Four, Diesel (German License built engine)
Operational Range: 200 km
Speed: 46 km/h
Entered Service in 1936
Air Force
Air Force Chief of Staff: General Henrique Breno
Aircraft Strength:
1,103 front line aircraft
Equipment:
Fighters
D XXV
Crew: 1
Powerplant: V-12, Liquid Cooled
Top Speed: 550 km/h
Range: 800 km
Service Ceiling: 9,450 m
Armament: 2 x 13mm machine guns, 1 x 20 mm cannon, and up to 150 kg of ordnance
Entered Service: 1936
Kit Built in Brazil, Kits brought from Germany
C-58
Crew: 1
Powerplant: 14 cylinder, radical
Top Speed: 513 km/h
Range: 500 km
Service Ceiling: 10,500 m
Armament: 2 x 13 mm machine guns and up to 100 kg of ordnance
Entered Service: 1935
Kit Built in Brazil, Kits brought from Italy
Close Air Support
CL XIX
Crew: 1
Engine: 9 cylinder, radical
Top Speed: 209 mph
Range: 500 miles
Service Ceiling: 30,000 ft
Armament: 2 x M1919 Machine Guns and up to 992 lbs of ordnance
Entered Service: 1930
Kit Built in Brazil, Kits brought from Germany
Tactical Bombers
GL XV
Crew: 4 (Pilot, Bombardier/Navigator, Flight Engineer/Gunner, Radio Operator/Gunner)
Powerplant: 2 x Opposing Six, liquid cooled, diesel
Top Speed: 429 km/h
Range: 1,600 km
Service Ceiling: 13,000 m
Armament: 3 x 13 mm Machine Guns and up to 1,000 kg of ordnance
Entered Service: 1935
Kit Built in Brazil, Kits brought from Germany
Hurricane
Crew: 3 (Pilot, Bombardier/Navigator, Radio Operator/Gunner)
Powerplant: 2 x 9 cylinder radicals
Top Speed: 431 km/h
Range: 2,400 km
Service Ceiling: 8,900 m
Armament: 2 x 13 mm Machine Guns and up to 600 kg of ordnance
Entered Service: 1937
Kit Built in Brazil, Kits brought from Britain
Navy
Chief of Naval Operations: Eleuterio Almir
Total Strength:
4 Battleships
2 Battlecruisers
2 Light Battlecruisers
1 Light Aircraft Carriers
6 Heavy Cruisers (2 German, 4 British)
10 Light Cruisers (2 German, 6 American, 2 Domestic with American Help)
34 Destroyers
22 Submarines
Pre-commission work ups/Fitting Out/Slip Way/Laid Down/Ordered
2 Battleships
2 Light Cruisers (Domestic With American Help)
6 Destroyers
2 Submarines
2 River Monitors
Reserve
1 Battleship
4 Light Cruisers (British)
Ship Overview (Cap Ships and Carriers)
Battleships
Minas Geraes Class Battleships, British Built
20,500 tons displacement, coal fired boilers, turbine driven, 21 knots, 12 x 12/45s in twin turrets, 16 x 4.7/50s in casemates, 4 x 4.5/45s in single mounts
SMN Minas Geraes, reserves
SMN São Paulo, slated to be decommissioned by the end of 1937
SMN Rio de Janeiro, slated to be decommissioned in early to mid 1938
Parana Class Battleships, German Built
34,700 tons displacement, oil fired boilers, turbine driven, 23 knots (23.5 knots trials), 8 x 38cm L/45s in twin turrets, 14 x 15 cm L/45s in casemates, 4 x 8.8 cm L/45s in single mounts
SMN Parana
SMN Ceara
Goias Class Battleships, British Built
44,100 tons displacement, oil fired boilers, turbine driven, 29 knots, 9 x 16.5/52s in triple turrets, 8 x 5.25/50s in twin turrets, 24 x QF 2 pdr AA Guns in Quad Mounts
Goias, Pre-commission work ups
Para, Fitting Out
Battlecruisers
Catarina Class Battlecruisers, German Built
28,900 tons, oil fired boilers, turbine driven, 30 knots, 8 x 38cm L/45s in twin turrets, 16 x 15cm L/45s in casemates, 4 x 8.8cm L/45s in single mounts
SMN Catarina
SMN Paraiba
Light Battlecruisers
Bahia Class, British Built
22,800 tons displacement, oil fired boilers, turbine driven, 31 knots, 6 x 15/42s in triple mounts, 12 x 5.5/50s in twin mounts, 4 x 4.5/45s in single mounts
SMN Bahia
SMN Goias
Light Aircraft Carriers
Manaus Class Light Aircraft Carriers, Italian Built
13,200 tons displacement, oil fired boilers, 31 knots, 2 x 211mm L/53s in twin mount, 4 x 120mm L/50s in twin mounts, 32 Aircraft
SMN Manaus
Marine Corp
Commandant of the Corp: Brigadier Octavio Gustavo
Unit Strength:
1 Marine Brigade
[1] Again Brazilians on this list aren’t based on anyone save for Dom Pedro. Dom Pedro is loosely based off Dona Isabel’s oldest son.
[2] Maria has been said to be the Brazilian Bismarck ITL.
[3] MAS-36 in what is known ITL as Brazilian 7mm (6.92 x 52).
[4] SIG Sauer P210
[5] MP-18
[6] Model 24
[7] Flammenwerfer 35
[8] 107 mm gun M1910
[9] 25 mm Hotchkiss AT-gun
[10] 8.8 cm Flak 36
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What you see in the Venezuelan military is the problem you see in a lot of second tier and below militaries. They have a mixture of weapons from small arms to ships from several different countries. To begin with you now have systems using metric and English measurements so your shops need both sorts of tools, and of course nuts, screws, bolts and woe betide you if you try and use them on the wrong piece of gear - some will "fit" sort, but at the wrong time fail. If all of your ships, for example, are made by the same suppliers, then while there will be equipment and other differences between classes, even of the same type, there will always be some things that will remain constant for quite some time. Now you literally have to stock three or four different kinds of toilets to fit each ship that was built by a different country. All of this makes maintenance more difficult, logistics a pain in the ass, and raises costs as you need to have a lot more different spares to keep everything going.
Just saw the Brazil update - they have a similar issue but much less as they either have some local industry or most of their gear is German made/design. The Navy is an exception.
Just saw the Brazil update - they have a similar issue but much less as they either have some local industry or most of their gear is German made/design. The Navy is an exception.
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Republic of Chile, 1937
Republic of Chile
Government Type: Constitutional Republic
Head of State: President Ciro Tristan [1]
Head of Government: President Ciro Tristan
Power Status: Regional Power
Population: ~5,483,374 (1937 Projected)
Minister of War: Anastasio German
Minister of Navy: Guadalupe Teo
Minister of Air: Rank Rafa Graciano
Chief of the General Staff: General Felipe Quirno
Conscription:
Chile is a nation that is face with increasing hostile neighbors. Currently all able body men in their 20 year on Earth are called up for military service within the Chilean Armed Forces. Currently most serve anywhere between 12 and 24 months in service. All conscripts are liable to be recalled to active duty in the event of war. Because of this all men must keep their contact information up to date till the age of 39. Depending on what job they perform effects if they stay on the recall list or not. Currently there is talk of increasing the length of conscription in Chile.
Army
Army Chief of Staff: Edelmiro Raul
Unit Strength:
9 Infantry Divisions, 6 Mountain Divisions, 1 Armored Brigade, 1 Airborne Battalion
Equipment:
Small Arms
Chile had a well built up domestic small arms industry but lacks a domestic small arms design ability. They have turned to Germany for making up this short fall in design ability. Even through a number of great powers had already started to switch to semi-automatic rifles or at least had programs looking into the idea, Chile when to Mauser and ask them to modernize the Mauser Rifle already being made in Chile. This was done as a cost saving measure but also allow their infantry soldiers to have better weapons. What Mauser designed has become known as the Chilean Mauser[2] worldwide. Locally known as the Carbine 34, it’s a shorter weapon than the older Mauser rifles used by Chilean along with being lighter. Currently only the Mountain Divisions have been fully equipped with the new rifle with the Infantry Divisions only having a faction of the Carbine 34 that they are slated to have.
For its standard issue sidearm it selected after an assessment of different rifles, the Belgian designed Hi-Power Pistol[3]. It was selected as it used the same kind of ammo as the German MP35 which had been selected the year prior in 1936 to be the new submachine gun within the Peruvian Army. Both weapons are being made in the arsenals in Chile and are slated to become widespread within the army by 1940. The Chilean Army is also looking at possible replacements for the Maxim Machine Gun that is currently in service with in the army.
Infantry Support Weapons
The Chilean Army has worked closely with the German Army over the years and this fact has shown itself with the infantry support weapons fielded by Chile over the years. In 1922 they brought the rights to make the Stielhandgranate Model 21 hand grenade. This grenade is well like by the Chilean Mountaineers. In the wake of the Great War they also brought a number of the 7.6 cm Minenwerfer infantry mortars to give their infantry even more firepower than they already had.
At the moment Chile is looking at a few possible upgrades to their infantry support weapon arsenal. There is only one problem, they can’t afford all the upgrades they are looking at and field a replacement for the Maxim Machine Gun like they want. With the priority being given to fielding a replacement machine gun the Chilean Army a small test batch of both the French 60 and 81 mm infantry mortars as a replacement to the 7.6 cm Minenewerfer. These French mortars are lighter and far more mobile than the Minenewerfer currently in service. They are also looking at the German Flamethrower, the Flammenwerfer 33. This flamethrower would give the Chileans the ability to dig out heavily entrenched foes which in the mountain terrain that is so common in Chile.
Artillery
Before the Great War Chile had brought a number of Krupp stock guns for service within their army. These included the 7.5 cm Model 1903 field guns and 12 cm Model 1905 Howitzers. In the wake of the Great War the Chileans brought a number of 7.7 cm FK 96 Na field guns and 10.5 cm FH 98/05 Howitzers from Germany who was retiring these pieces in the wake of the Great War. The Chileans had the Germans reline the 7.7 cm FK 96 Na field guns to allow them to fire the 7.5 cm ammo they already made for their already fielded field gun. They also brought a small number of German 15 cm sFH 02 howitzers, but these are used as a corp level howitzer within Chile. They are currently in the middle of modernizing their 12 cm Model 1905 Howitzers. This is being done in Germany as Chile doesn’t have the industrial base to do it themselves, but they are getting relined to fire 10.5 cm ammo along with a major upgrade to their performance abilities.
For anti-goliath and anti-air the Chileans have brought a license from the United States to make the M3 Heavy Machine Gun. They however are looking at the German 3.7 cm anti-goliath gun along with the Brazilian 25 mm anti-goliath gun as a possible projects to increase in their anti-goliath firepower as reports of more goliaths are being fielded by both Peru and Argentina are growing. For heavier anti-air artillery they are making locally the 3.7 cm Flak 32[4] which they have been making since 1935. Chile is further looking at the possibly of fielding the well made 8.8 cm Flak gun made by Germany if Argentina keeps expanding its air force bomber capable.
Light Goliath
Panzer V
Weight: 9.1 t
Crew: 3 (Commander, Driver, Gunner)
Main Armament: 2 cm autocannon
Secondary Armament: Maxim Machine Gun (Co-axial)
Engine: Straight Six, Liquid Cooled
Operational Range: 225 km
Speed: 42 km/h
Fielded in 1935
Imported from Germany
Air Force
Air Force Chief of Staff: Lt General Climaco Marcelino
Aircraft Strength:
875 front line aircraft
Equipment:
D XXV
Crew: 1
Powerplant: V-12, Liquid Cooled
Top Speed: 550 km/h
Range: 800 km
Service Ceiling: 9,450 m
Armament: 2 x 13mm machine guns, 1 x 20 mm cannon, and up to 150 kg of ordnance
Entered Service: 1937
Kit Built in Chile, Kits brought from Germany
Close Air Support
CL XIX
Crew: 1
Engine: 9 cylinder, radical
Top Speed: 339 km/h
Range: 880 km
Service Ceiling: 9,100 m
Armament: 2 x 8 mm machine guns and up to 450 kg of ordnance
Entered Service: 1931
Kit Built in Chile, Kits brought from Germany
Navy
Chief of Naval Operations: Admiral Benito Raymundo
Total Strength:
Active
4 Battleships
1 Light Aircraft Carrier
6 Light Cruisers (German Built)
18 Destroyers (German and American Built)
14 Submarines (German and American Built)
Pre-Commission Work Ups/Fitting Out/Slip Way/Laid Down/Ordered
2 Battleships (American Built)
4 Destroyers (German and Local Built, to German Design)
6 Submarines (German and Local Built, to German Design)
Reserve
2 Light Cruisers (German Built)
Ship Overview (Cap Ships and Carriers)
Battleships
Almirante Latorre Class Battleships, American Built
22,350 tons displacement, oil fired boilers, turbine driven, 21 knots, 10 x 12/50s in Twin turrets(Superfiring), 16 x 5/51s Casemate, 4 x 3 inch guns
Almirante Latorre, slated to be turned over to the Americans in the winter of 1937 for scraping
Almirante Cochrane, slated to be turned over to the Americans in the spring of 1939 for scraping
Consititucion Class, American Built
35,100 tons displacement, oil fired boilers, turbine driven, 24 knots, 8 x 16/50s in twin turrets(Superfiring), 14 x 5/51s in casemates, 4 x 3 inch AA Guns
Consititucion
Libertad
Almirante Latorre Class Battleships, American Built
46,200 tons displacement, oil fired boilers, turbine driven, 30 knots, 9 x 16.5/50s in triple turrets, 16 x 5/38s in twin turrets, 8 x 3.7 cm Flak Cannons twin mount
Almirante Latorre, fitting out
Almirante Cochrane, ordered
Light Aircraft Carrier
Esmeralda Class Light Aircraft Carrier, German Built
11,900 tons displacement, oil fired boilers, turbine driven, 32 knots, 16 x 3.7 cm Flak in twin mounts, 32 aircraft
Esmeralda
Marine Corp
Commandant of the Corp: Brigadier Osvaldo Jorge
Unit Strength:
4 Marine Regiments
[1] Need I say it, none of these people are based on OTL figures.
[2] Karabiner 98k
[3] Browning Hi-Power
[4] 3.7 cm Flak 36
Government Type: Constitutional Republic
Head of State: President Ciro Tristan [1]
Head of Government: President Ciro Tristan
Power Status: Regional Power
Population: ~5,483,374 (1937 Projected)
Minister of War: Anastasio German
Minister of Navy: Guadalupe Teo
Minister of Air: Rank Rafa Graciano
Chief of the General Staff: General Felipe Quirno
Conscription:
Chile is a nation that is face with increasing hostile neighbors. Currently all able body men in their 20 year on Earth are called up for military service within the Chilean Armed Forces. Currently most serve anywhere between 12 and 24 months in service. All conscripts are liable to be recalled to active duty in the event of war. Because of this all men must keep their contact information up to date till the age of 39. Depending on what job they perform effects if they stay on the recall list or not. Currently there is talk of increasing the length of conscription in Chile.
Army
Army Chief of Staff: Edelmiro Raul
Unit Strength:
9 Infantry Divisions, 6 Mountain Divisions, 1 Armored Brigade, 1 Airborne Battalion
Equipment:
Small Arms
Chile had a well built up domestic small arms industry but lacks a domestic small arms design ability. They have turned to Germany for making up this short fall in design ability. Even through a number of great powers had already started to switch to semi-automatic rifles or at least had programs looking into the idea, Chile when to Mauser and ask them to modernize the Mauser Rifle already being made in Chile. This was done as a cost saving measure but also allow their infantry soldiers to have better weapons. What Mauser designed has become known as the Chilean Mauser[2] worldwide. Locally known as the Carbine 34, it’s a shorter weapon than the older Mauser rifles used by Chilean along with being lighter. Currently only the Mountain Divisions have been fully equipped with the new rifle with the Infantry Divisions only having a faction of the Carbine 34 that they are slated to have.
For its standard issue sidearm it selected after an assessment of different rifles, the Belgian designed Hi-Power Pistol[3]. It was selected as it used the same kind of ammo as the German MP35 which had been selected the year prior in 1936 to be the new submachine gun within the Peruvian Army. Both weapons are being made in the arsenals in Chile and are slated to become widespread within the army by 1940. The Chilean Army is also looking at possible replacements for the Maxim Machine Gun that is currently in service with in the army.
Infantry Support Weapons
The Chilean Army has worked closely with the German Army over the years and this fact has shown itself with the infantry support weapons fielded by Chile over the years. In 1922 they brought the rights to make the Stielhandgranate Model 21 hand grenade. This grenade is well like by the Chilean Mountaineers. In the wake of the Great War they also brought a number of the 7.6 cm Minenwerfer infantry mortars to give their infantry even more firepower than they already had.
At the moment Chile is looking at a few possible upgrades to their infantry support weapon arsenal. There is only one problem, they can’t afford all the upgrades they are looking at and field a replacement for the Maxim Machine Gun like they want. With the priority being given to fielding a replacement machine gun the Chilean Army a small test batch of both the French 60 and 81 mm infantry mortars as a replacement to the 7.6 cm Minenewerfer. These French mortars are lighter and far more mobile than the Minenewerfer currently in service. They are also looking at the German Flamethrower, the Flammenwerfer 33. This flamethrower would give the Chileans the ability to dig out heavily entrenched foes which in the mountain terrain that is so common in Chile.
Artillery
Before the Great War Chile had brought a number of Krupp stock guns for service within their army. These included the 7.5 cm Model 1903 field guns and 12 cm Model 1905 Howitzers. In the wake of the Great War the Chileans brought a number of 7.7 cm FK 96 Na field guns and 10.5 cm FH 98/05 Howitzers from Germany who was retiring these pieces in the wake of the Great War. The Chileans had the Germans reline the 7.7 cm FK 96 Na field guns to allow them to fire the 7.5 cm ammo they already made for their already fielded field gun. They also brought a small number of German 15 cm sFH 02 howitzers, but these are used as a corp level howitzer within Chile. They are currently in the middle of modernizing their 12 cm Model 1905 Howitzers. This is being done in Germany as Chile doesn’t have the industrial base to do it themselves, but they are getting relined to fire 10.5 cm ammo along with a major upgrade to their performance abilities.
For anti-goliath and anti-air the Chileans have brought a license from the United States to make the M3 Heavy Machine Gun. They however are looking at the German 3.7 cm anti-goliath gun along with the Brazilian 25 mm anti-goliath gun as a possible projects to increase in their anti-goliath firepower as reports of more goliaths are being fielded by both Peru and Argentina are growing. For heavier anti-air artillery they are making locally the 3.7 cm Flak 32[4] which they have been making since 1935. Chile is further looking at the possibly of fielding the well made 8.8 cm Flak gun made by Germany if Argentina keeps expanding its air force bomber capable.
Light Goliath
Panzer V
Weight: 9.1 t
Crew: 3 (Commander, Driver, Gunner)
Main Armament: 2 cm autocannon
Secondary Armament: Maxim Machine Gun (Co-axial)
Engine: Straight Six, Liquid Cooled
Operational Range: 225 km
Speed: 42 km/h
Fielded in 1935
Imported from Germany
Air Force
Air Force Chief of Staff: Lt General Climaco Marcelino
Aircraft Strength:
875 front line aircraft
Equipment:
D XXV
Crew: 1
Powerplant: V-12, Liquid Cooled
Top Speed: 550 km/h
Range: 800 km
Service Ceiling: 9,450 m
Armament: 2 x 13mm machine guns, 1 x 20 mm cannon, and up to 150 kg of ordnance
Entered Service: 1937
Kit Built in Chile, Kits brought from Germany
Close Air Support
CL XIX
Crew: 1
Engine: 9 cylinder, radical
Top Speed: 339 km/h
Range: 880 km
Service Ceiling: 9,100 m
Armament: 2 x 8 mm machine guns and up to 450 kg of ordnance
Entered Service: 1931
Kit Built in Chile, Kits brought from Germany
Navy
Chief of Naval Operations: Admiral Benito Raymundo
Total Strength:
Active
4 Battleships
1 Light Aircraft Carrier
6 Light Cruisers (German Built)
18 Destroyers (German and American Built)
14 Submarines (German and American Built)
Pre-Commission Work Ups/Fitting Out/Slip Way/Laid Down/Ordered
2 Battleships (American Built)
4 Destroyers (German and Local Built, to German Design)
6 Submarines (German and Local Built, to German Design)
Reserve
2 Light Cruisers (German Built)
Ship Overview (Cap Ships and Carriers)
Battleships
Almirante Latorre Class Battleships, American Built
22,350 tons displacement, oil fired boilers, turbine driven, 21 knots, 10 x 12/50s in Twin turrets(Superfiring), 16 x 5/51s Casemate, 4 x 3 inch guns
Almirante Latorre, slated to be turned over to the Americans in the winter of 1937 for scraping
Almirante Cochrane, slated to be turned over to the Americans in the spring of 1939 for scraping
Consititucion Class, American Built
35,100 tons displacement, oil fired boilers, turbine driven, 24 knots, 8 x 16/50s in twin turrets(Superfiring), 14 x 5/51s in casemates, 4 x 3 inch AA Guns
Consititucion
Libertad
Almirante Latorre Class Battleships, American Built
46,200 tons displacement, oil fired boilers, turbine driven, 30 knots, 9 x 16.5/50s in triple turrets, 16 x 5/38s in twin turrets, 8 x 3.7 cm Flak Cannons twin mount
Almirante Latorre, fitting out
Almirante Cochrane, ordered
Light Aircraft Carrier
Esmeralda Class Light Aircraft Carrier, German Built
11,900 tons displacement, oil fired boilers, turbine driven, 32 knots, 16 x 3.7 cm Flak in twin mounts, 32 aircraft
Esmeralda
Marine Corp
Commandant of the Corp: Brigadier Osvaldo Jorge
Unit Strength:
4 Marine Regiments
[1] Need I say it, none of these people are based on OTL figures.
[2] Karabiner 98k
[3] Browning Hi-Power
[4] 3.7 cm Flak 36
Argentine Republic, 1937
Argentine Republic
Government Type: Constitutional Republic (On Paper), Fascist State (In reality)
Head of State: President Bartolome Pastor
Head of Government: President Bartolome Pastor
Power Status: Regional Power
Population: 14,495,386 (1937 Projected)
Minister of War: Javier Primitivo
Minister of Navy: Augusto Eligio
Minister of Air: Mauricio Vidal
Chief of the General Staff: Field Marshal Tomas Pepito
Conscription:
In Argentina, every able body male can be conscripted into the Argentine Armed Forces. This is generally done in their 21 year. Yet if the family is disliked by the party it’s the 18 year. Service is generally 24 months no matter branch. Again if your family is disliked by the party service is generally expanded to 36 months and is back breaking labor designed to leave you a broken man. Members of Party or party member sons are generally given the best billets during their service with many being pilots.
Army
Army Chief of Staff: General Fabricio Amilcar
Unit Strength:
12 Infantry Divisions, 6 Mountain Divisions, 4 Labor Brigades, 2 Armored Brigades,
Equipment:
Small Arms
Argentina is currently the only regional power in the South American to currently being fielding a semi-automatic rifle to replace their bolt action rifles. The Rifle Modelo 1936[1] made Argentina the first South American nation to field an semi-automatic rifle when they did so in 1936. The Modelo 36 uses a different an odd rotary feed magazine to feed the 6.8 x 58 mm rounds used by the rifle. Some believe the rifle is too complex for field use but reports about this aren’t passed on to high command by those officers who believe this. Production of the Modele 36 is being ramped up with the goal to have every unit equipped with the rifle by 1943.
The standard sidearm of the Argentine Army is a license built model of the American Model 1910. The Argentine Army is also fielding a new domestically designed submachine gun known as the Pistola Ametralladora Modele 35[2]. Unlike the Modele 36 rifle, the Modele 35 didn’t offer any mark improvements over the different submachine guns in service with the Argentine Army at the moment. The main edge the Modele 35 offers over the other submachine guns is, a, it can be made locally, b, no license fees have to be made. Other than those its performance is like many submachine guns that entered service during and in the wake of the Great War.
On the machine gun front the Argentine Army uses for their general machine gun the British designed Vickers Machine Gun but chambered in their 6.8 mm ammo. They also have designed a light machine gun counterpart for their Vickers Gun. Currently in testing this light machine gun[3] has its draw backs. The side mounted magazine makes carrying the weapon odd. Further it is not a well balanced weapon. However, the testing reports are not reporting these issues as the designer is a party member and testing is more to prove it works not making a soldier friendly weapon.
Infantry Support Weapons
For their standard issue hand grenade the Argentine Army uses a license built version of the Stielhandgranate Model 21. Like many regional and middle powers in the wake of the Great War brought surplus weapons to increase their own firepower. This led to the Argentine Army fielding the first modern infantry mortar in 1922 with the first batch they brought from the British. Unlike the mortars the British sold to the Venezuelan Army these mortars worked and hadn’t been put through the ringer. Yet they are now replacing these older Great War era mortars with newly brought British Infantry Mortars including the 2[4] and 3[5] Inch mortars. This is bucking the trend of French mortars in the Americas and in the world generally.
Artillery
The best way to put the Argentine Artillery Branch is it is a mess. It has artillery from the British, Germans, Austro-Hungarians, and French. These range from a 60 mm French artillery mountain piece to 305 mm Austro-Hungarian siege pieces. It’s a logistical nightmare, but the Artillery Branch of the Argentine Army has a bad case of new shiny I want it. The only keeping from getting newer pieces than what they currently have and more numbers is their budget with has limited them and also help create this cluster of artillery.
For anti-air and anti-armor weapons through the Argentine Army has been somewhat more sane than it does with its field guns and howitzers. This is mainly because it has brought weapons or designs from Austria-Hungary. For its anti-armor gun they use the 3.7 cm Pak 34[6] which they license build for their own uses. For a light anti-air cannon they use the 2 cm Flak 31[7] which they also license make. Finally they just brought the rights to make the 7.5 cm Flak 36[8]. Production of this hasn’t started yet but it slated to start by 1939 at the latest and will make up the bulk of the heavy anti-air artillery used by the Argentine Army.
Light Goliath
Light Goliath-33/LG-33 (Panzer 35t)
Weight: 10.9 t
Crew: 3 (Commander, Driver, Gunner)
Armor: up to 28 mm
Main Armament: 3.7 cm Tank Gun
Secondary Armament: 6.8 mm machine gun (Co-axial)
Engine: Straight Four, Liquid Cooled
Speed: 31 km/h
Range: 190 km
Air Force
Air Force Chief of Staff: General Fernando Edelmiro
Aircraft Strength:
948 front line aircraft
Equipment:
Fighter
Thunder (Hawker Hurricane)
Crew: 1
Powerplant: V-12, Liquid Cooled
Speed: 319 mph
Range: 600 miles
Service Ceiling: 31,500 feet
Armament: 6 x 6.8 machine guns and up to 250 lbs of ordnance
Entered Service: 1937
Kit Built in Argentina, Kits Brought from the British
Austro Hungarian Fighter (How do you name these?) (IAR 80)
Crew: 1
Powerplant: 14 cylinder, radical
Speed: 329 mph
Range: 450 miles
Service Ceiling: 32,000 feet
Armament: 4 x 6.8 machine guns and up to 500 lbs of ordnance
Entered Service: 1936
Kit Built in Argentina, Kits Brought from Austria Hungary
Tactical Bomber
Hurricane (Bristol Blenheim)
Crew: 3 (Pilot, Bombardier/Navigator, Radio Operator/Gunner)
Powerplant: 2 x 9 cylinder radicals
Top Speed: 431 km/h
Range: 2,400 km
Service Ceiling: 8,900 m
Armament: 2 x 6.8 mm Machine Guns and up to 600 kg of ordnance
Entered Service: 1936
Kit Built in Argentina, Kits Brought from the British
Navy
Chief of Naval Operations: Admiral Donato Gervasio
Total Strength:
Active
4 Battleships
1 Light Aircraft Carrier
2 Heavy Cruisers (British Built)
6 Light Cruisers (Italian and British Built)
19 Destroyers (Italian, British, and French Built)
22 Submarines (Italian and British Built)
Pre-Commission Work Ups/Fitting Out/Slip Ways/Laid Down/Order
1 Battleship
1 Light Cruiser (Italian Built)
2 Destroyers (British Built)
Reserves
2 Pre-Colossus Battleships
4 Armored Cruisers
Ship Overview (Cap Ships and Carriers)
Rivadavia Class Battleships, British Built
22,400 tons displacement, coil fired boilers, turbine driven, 10 x 12/50s in twin turrets (Superfirng, forward), 18 x 4/50s casemate, 4 x 3 inch AA Guns,
Rivadavia
Moreno
Libertad Class, British Built
38,900 tons displacement, oil fired boilers, turbine driven, 23 knots, 12 x 15/42s in triple turrets (Superfiring), 12 x 6/45 casemates, 4 x 3 inch AA Guns
Libertad
Independencia
Almirante Brown Class, British Built
49,500 tons displace, oil fired boilers, turbine driven, 29.5 knots, 8 x 18/45s in twin turrets (Superfiring), 8 x 5.25/50s in twin turrets, 24 x 2 pdr AA Cannons in quad mounts,
Almirante Brown, laid down
Option for a Second outstanding
Light Aircraft Carriers
San Martin Class Light Aircraft Carriers, British Built
11,200 tons displacement, oil fired boilers, turbine driven, 30 knots, 2 x 4.5/45s in twin mount, 12 x 2 pdr AA Cannons in quad mount, 26 aircraft
San Martin
Marine Corp
Commandant of the Corp: Major General Adan Vinicio
Unit Strength:
1 Marine Division
[1] M1941 Johnson Rifle
[2] Halcom M-1943
[3] Johnson Machine Gun
[4] SBML Two Inch Mortar
[5] Ordnance ML 3 inch Mortar
[6] 3.7 cm KPUV vz. 36
[7] Oerlikon 20 mm
[8] 7.5 cm kanon PL vz. 37
Government Type: Constitutional Republic (On Paper), Fascist State (In reality)
Head of State: President Bartolome Pastor
Head of Government: President Bartolome Pastor
Power Status: Regional Power
Population: 14,495,386 (1937 Projected)
Minister of War: Javier Primitivo
Minister of Navy: Augusto Eligio
Minister of Air: Mauricio Vidal
Chief of the General Staff: Field Marshal Tomas Pepito
Conscription:
In Argentina, every able body male can be conscripted into the Argentine Armed Forces. This is generally done in their 21 year. Yet if the family is disliked by the party it’s the 18 year. Service is generally 24 months no matter branch. Again if your family is disliked by the party service is generally expanded to 36 months and is back breaking labor designed to leave you a broken man. Members of Party or party member sons are generally given the best billets during their service with many being pilots.
Army
Army Chief of Staff: General Fabricio Amilcar
Unit Strength:
12 Infantry Divisions, 6 Mountain Divisions, 4 Labor Brigades, 2 Armored Brigades,
Equipment:
Small Arms
Argentina is currently the only regional power in the South American to currently being fielding a semi-automatic rifle to replace their bolt action rifles. The Rifle Modelo 1936[1] made Argentina the first South American nation to field an semi-automatic rifle when they did so in 1936. The Modelo 36 uses a different an odd rotary feed magazine to feed the 6.8 x 58 mm rounds used by the rifle. Some believe the rifle is too complex for field use but reports about this aren’t passed on to high command by those officers who believe this. Production of the Modele 36 is being ramped up with the goal to have every unit equipped with the rifle by 1943.
The standard sidearm of the Argentine Army is a license built model of the American Model 1910. The Argentine Army is also fielding a new domestically designed submachine gun known as the Pistola Ametralladora Modele 35[2]. Unlike the Modele 36 rifle, the Modele 35 didn’t offer any mark improvements over the different submachine guns in service with the Argentine Army at the moment. The main edge the Modele 35 offers over the other submachine guns is, a, it can be made locally, b, no license fees have to be made. Other than those its performance is like many submachine guns that entered service during and in the wake of the Great War.
On the machine gun front the Argentine Army uses for their general machine gun the British designed Vickers Machine Gun but chambered in their 6.8 mm ammo. They also have designed a light machine gun counterpart for their Vickers Gun. Currently in testing this light machine gun[3] has its draw backs. The side mounted magazine makes carrying the weapon odd. Further it is not a well balanced weapon. However, the testing reports are not reporting these issues as the designer is a party member and testing is more to prove it works not making a soldier friendly weapon.
Infantry Support Weapons
For their standard issue hand grenade the Argentine Army uses a license built version of the Stielhandgranate Model 21. Like many regional and middle powers in the wake of the Great War brought surplus weapons to increase their own firepower. This led to the Argentine Army fielding the first modern infantry mortar in 1922 with the first batch they brought from the British. Unlike the mortars the British sold to the Venezuelan Army these mortars worked and hadn’t been put through the ringer. Yet they are now replacing these older Great War era mortars with newly brought British Infantry Mortars including the 2[4] and 3[5] Inch mortars. This is bucking the trend of French mortars in the Americas and in the world generally.
Artillery
The best way to put the Argentine Artillery Branch is it is a mess. It has artillery from the British, Germans, Austro-Hungarians, and French. These range from a 60 mm French artillery mountain piece to 305 mm Austro-Hungarian siege pieces. It’s a logistical nightmare, but the Artillery Branch of the Argentine Army has a bad case of new shiny I want it. The only keeping from getting newer pieces than what they currently have and more numbers is their budget with has limited them and also help create this cluster of artillery.
For anti-air and anti-armor weapons through the Argentine Army has been somewhat more sane than it does with its field guns and howitzers. This is mainly because it has brought weapons or designs from Austria-Hungary. For its anti-armor gun they use the 3.7 cm Pak 34[6] which they license build for their own uses. For a light anti-air cannon they use the 2 cm Flak 31[7] which they also license make. Finally they just brought the rights to make the 7.5 cm Flak 36[8]. Production of this hasn’t started yet but it slated to start by 1939 at the latest and will make up the bulk of the heavy anti-air artillery used by the Argentine Army.
Light Goliath
Light Goliath-33/LG-33 (Panzer 35t)
Weight: 10.9 t
Crew: 3 (Commander, Driver, Gunner)
Armor: up to 28 mm
Main Armament: 3.7 cm Tank Gun
Secondary Armament: 6.8 mm machine gun (Co-axial)
Engine: Straight Four, Liquid Cooled
Speed: 31 km/h
Range: 190 km
Air Force
Air Force Chief of Staff: General Fernando Edelmiro
Aircraft Strength:
948 front line aircraft
Equipment:
Fighter
Thunder (Hawker Hurricane)
Crew: 1
Powerplant: V-12, Liquid Cooled
Speed: 319 mph
Range: 600 miles
Service Ceiling: 31,500 feet
Armament: 6 x 6.8 machine guns and up to 250 lbs of ordnance
Entered Service: 1937
Kit Built in Argentina, Kits Brought from the British
Austro Hungarian Fighter (How do you name these?) (IAR 80)
Crew: 1
Powerplant: 14 cylinder, radical
Speed: 329 mph
Range: 450 miles
Service Ceiling: 32,000 feet
Armament: 4 x 6.8 machine guns and up to 500 lbs of ordnance
Entered Service: 1936
Kit Built in Argentina, Kits Brought from Austria Hungary
Tactical Bomber
Hurricane (Bristol Blenheim)
Crew: 3 (Pilot, Bombardier/Navigator, Radio Operator/Gunner)
Powerplant: 2 x 9 cylinder radicals
Top Speed: 431 km/h
Range: 2,400 km
Service Ceiling: 8,900 m
Armament: 2 x 6.8 mm Machine Guns and up to 600 kg of ordnance
Entered Service: 1936
Kit Built in Argentina, Kits Brought from the British
Navy
Chief of Naval Operations: Admiral Donato Gervasio
Total Strength:
Active
4 Battleships
1 Light Aircraft Carrier
2 Heavy Cruisers (British Built)
6 Light Cruisers (Italian and British Built)
19 Destroyers (Italian, British, and French Built)
22 Submarines (Italian and British Built)
Pre-Commission Work Ups/Fitting Out/Slip Ways/Laid Down/Order
1 Battleship
1 Light Cruiser (Italian Built)
2 Destroyers (British Built)
Reserves
2 Pre-Colossus Battleships
4 Armored Cruisers
Ship Overview (Cap Ships and Carriers)
Rivadavia Class Battleships, British Built
22,400 tons displacement, coil fired boilers, turbine driven, 10 x 12/50s in twin turrets (Superfirng, forward), 18 x 4/50s casemate, 4 x 3 inch AA Guns,
Rivadavia
Moreno
Libertad Class, British Built
38,900 tons displacement, oil fired boilers, turbine driven, 23 knots, 12 x 15/42s in triple turrets (Superfiring), 12 x 6/45 casemates, 4 x 3 inch AA Guns
Libertad
Independencia
Almirante Brown Class, British Built
49,500 tons displace, oil fired boilers, turbine driven, 29.5 knots, 8 x 18/45s in twin turrets (Superfiring), 8 x 5.25/50s in twin turrets, 24 x 2 pdr AA Cannons in quad mounts,
Almirante Brown, laid down
Option for a Second outstanding
Light Aircraft Carriers
San Martin Class Light Aircraft Carriers, British Built
11,200 tons displacement, oil fired boilers, turbine driven, 30 knots, 2 x 4.5/45s in twin mount, 12 x 2 pdr AA Cannons in quad mount, 26 aircraft
San Martin
Marine Corp
Commandant of the Corp: Major General Adan Vinicio
Unit Strength:
1 Marine Division
[1] M1941 Johnson Rifle
[2] Halcom M-1943
[3] Johnson Machine Gun
[4] SBML Two Inch Mortar
[5] Ordnance ML 3 inch Mortar
[6] 3.7 cm KPUV vz. 36
[7] Oerlikon 20 mm
[8] 7.5 cm kanon PL vz. 37
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This ship is faster than Yamato and has almost as many guns. Either the displacement is wrong or it has paper for armor. I would also double (at least) the number of secondary guns.
RamscoopRaider
Donor
Eh people make mistakes, light secondaries is possible
There was a 1920 era US design study for 8 18" on a 55000 ton hull at 30 knots, admittedly it only had a 12" belt and 5" deck armor, but remove US need for turbo electric and allow for 15-20 years of R&D and you could shave off ~5000t IMO. It being overgunned for its armor would not be that unusual
Yamato was a relatively inefficient design that made up for it with size, the US or UK could probably build a near equivalent on 50,000t
This said Britain would probably use an 18"/45 rather than an 18"/48
The British Empire, 1937
The British Empire
Government Type: Constitutional Monarchy (On Paper), Fascist State (In reality)
Head of State: Queen Victoria II [1]
Head of Government: Prime Minister Winston Churchill [2]
Power Status: Great Power
Population: 50,394,394 (1937 Projected)
Minister of War: Booker Milford [3]
Minister of Navy: Winston Churchill
Minister of Air: Louis Clifton [4]
Chief of the General Staff: Admiral of the Fleet Allan Logan [5]
Conscription:
Conscription was a touchy subject within the British Isles and had only been used in the later stages of the Great War before being ended in 1920. But the rise of the Conservative Empire Party saw laws and indeed the British Isles slowly change over the years. In 1931 conscription returned to the British Isles. Even through the British was a de facto fascist nation by this point with the CEP really tighting the laws in the wake of the 1928 Depression, conscription within the British Isles was still a touchy subject. Service was set up to were males who are conscripted have one of three choices. The first was the military service choice which is 18 months long. Then following this service its five years in either the territorial, naval, or RAF reserves.
The other two forms of conscription are in the form of Construction Service to the empire. The first is Empire Construction Service, where young men who have reached draft age at the age of 21 decide to help build up the empire instead of serving in the armed forces. The ECS choice is 36 months of service and being set anywhere in the empire building things. The third choice is the Domestic Construction Service. Under the DCS choice these men will spend five years building things within the British Isles. A keen eye observer would note that both the ECS and DCS have built up a number of either pure military projects or duel use infrastructure projects across the empire.
Army
Army Chief of Staff: Field Marshal Thaddeus Marion [6]
Unit Strength: (Note counting British Army only, no colonial units in this TO&E)
27 Infantry Divisions, 6 Motorized Infantry Divisions, 6 Calvary Divisions, 3 Armored Divisions, 11 Construction Service brigades, 6 Motorized Infantry Brigades, 6 Calvary Brigades, 3 Armored Brigades
Equipment:
Small Arms
The British have when in a very difference direction than everyone in their efforts for a semi-automatic rifle. They have designed and built a toggle blow-back system firing a .280 round[7]. The Enfield Semi-Automatic Rifle[8] is per rifle the most costly semi-automatic rifle that was fielded by either the great or regional powers in the world. Yet the Enfield rifle is liked by all those troops that have been issue it. Its regarded as a light but still powerful rifle that many troops enjoy to shoot. However, not all formations have been issued the Enfield Rifle with it being fielded in 1933. Just under half of the British Army Infantry units still use the older Lee-Enfield Rifle. The goal is to fully equip the British Army with the Enfield Semi-Automatic Rifle by the end of 1941.
The British became the last great power to adopt a semi-automatic pistol as its standard service side arm when they fielded the Webley Semi-Automatic Pistol[8] firing a .380 round. It a mark improvement over the revolvers that were used in the great war as it fires a round that is much more controllable than the .455 round used in the Great War along with gives the user three more rounds. In 1931 they also fielded a new submachine which replaced their reversed engineered MP-17 submachine gun which they had been using since 1920. The Enfield Submachine Gun[9] fires the .380 round that the Webley fires. It was also one of the first stamped metal submachine guns designed and the first one fielded.
For machine guns the British have retained the older .303 round for the Vickers Machine Gun as it gives a heavier punch than the .280 rounds being used for the Enfield Semi-Automatic Rifle. Yet they have decided to field a light machine gun in the same size as the Enfield Semi-Automatic Rifle. After some trials they have finally fielded the Vickers Light Machine Gun[10] early in 1937. It’s a magazine fed weapon, but unlike many light machine guns it’s a top fed design. The few troops that have been issued the Vickers LMG love the weapon.
Infantry Support Weapons
The British have updated the Mills Bomb which they have been using since the Great War in 1931. Much like the American upgrade for the weapon they cut the time down from 7 to 4 seconds and changed the filler out for a better high explosive. Unlike the Americans the British also worked on the fuse of the weapon to make it easier to make. The British were the first to field what is viewed as the modern infantry mortar during the Great War. Yet during the 1920s the French designed what became the new standard in infantry mortars with their 60 and 81 mm mortars. Yet with the growing relationships between Berlin and Paris growing and relationships between London and Paris falling apart forced the British to designed their own new infantry mortars. This led to the Ordnance SBML Two Inch Mortar which is used in the same role as the French 60mm design but has a lighter shell than the 60mm French Design. They further have designed the Ordnance ML 3 inch design. Even through its labelled as a 3 inch design its really a 3.2 inch design. Its performance its about the same of the French 81 mm design.
Artillery
The British started in the early 1930s started upgrading their artillery to more modern designs as they had to keep up with changing artillery in Europe. The first one they fielded in 1933 was the Ordnance QF 25 pounder. It’s a duel field gun and howitzer. Then a year later they fielded the BL 4.5 Inch Medium Field Gun which was designed to take over the role of counter battery missions within the British Army. Its also used in the howitzer role. The heavier brother to the BL 4.5 Inch is the BL 5.5 Inch Medium Gun which has just entered service. None of the three have fully replaced Great War designs.
For their anti-armor gun the British brought a license from Austria-Hungary to make their anti-armor artillery. This was the 3.7 cm Pak 34 in 1935. This is known as the 2 pounder Anti-Tank Gun. They further brought from Austria-Hungary the license to make the 2 cm Flak 31 for their light anti-air artillery. Yet for their heavier anti-air artillery they have their own domestic design the QF 3.7 inch AA Gun. The QF 3.7 inch is one of the larger anti-aircraft guns in service at the moment.
Light Goliath
Light Goliath Mk IX (Light Tank VI)
Weight: 5.5 t
Crew: 3 (Commander, Driver, Gunner)
Armor: up to ¾ of inch
Main Armament: .50 machine gun
Secondary Armament: .303 machine gun
Engine: slant six, liquid cooled
Operational Range: 150 miles
Speed: 32 mph
Entered Service: 1934
Medium Goliath
Infantry Mk II (Matilda I)
Weight: 10.6 t
Crew: 2 (Commander, Driver)
Armor: up to 2 ¼ inch
Armament: .50 machine gun
Engine: V-8, liquid cooled
Operational Range: 75 miles
Speed: 9 mph
Entered Service: 1937
Cruiser Mk III (Cruiser Mk I)
Weight: 13.9 t
Crew: 6 (Commander, Driver, Gunner, Loader, 2 x Machine Gunners)
Armor: up to 1 inch
Main Armament: 2 pounder
Secondary Armament: 3 x .303 machine guns
Operational Range: 100 miles
Speed: 21 mph
Entered Service: 1937
Air Force
Air Force Chief of Staff: Marshal of the RAF Zachariah Vaughn [11]
Aircraft Strength:
3,290 front line aircraft
Equipment:
Fighter
Thunder (Hawker Hurricane)
Crew: 1
Powerplant: V-12, Liquid Cooled
Speed: 319 mph
Range: 600 miles
Service Ceiling: 31,500 feet
Armament: 6 x .303 machine guns and up to 250 lbs of ordnance
Entered Service: 1936
Mustang (Supermarine Spitfire)
Crew: 1
Powerplant: V-12, Liquid Cooled
Speed: 357 mph
Range: 450 miles
Service Ceiling: 31,900 feet
Armament: 8 x .303 machine guns
Entered Service: 1937
Close Air Support
Fox (Fairey Battle)
Crew: 3 (Pilot, Bombardier, Gunner)
Powerplant: V-12, Liquid Cooled
Speed: 259 mph
Range: 950 miles
Service Ceiling: 25,500 feet
Armament: 2 x .303 machine guns and up to 1,500 lbs of ordnance
Entered Service: 1935
Tactical Bomber
Hurricane (Bristol Blenheim)
Crew: 3 (Pilot, Bombardier/Navigator, Radio Operator/Gunner)
Powerplant: 2 x 9 cylinder radicals
Top Speed: 431 km/h
Range: 2,400 km
Service Ceiling: 8,900 m
Armament: 2 x .303 mm Machine Guns and up to 650 kg of ordnance
Entered Service: 1935
Marauder (Armstrong Whitworth Whitley)
Crew: 5 (Pilot, Bombardier/Gunner, Navigator, Flight Engineer/Radio Operator, Gunner)
Powerplant: 2 x V-12, Liquid Cooled
Top Speed: 239 mph
Range: 1,500 miles
Service Ceiling: 26,500 ft
Armament: 5 x .303 machine gunners, and up to 3,000 lbs of Ordnance
Entered Service: 1936
Special Notes: Designed as a night bomber
Navy
Chief of Naval Operations: Henry Phillip [12]
When the Naval Treaty System Broke Down in 1934
22 Battleships (Including 2 Treaty BBs), 671,500 tonnage
8 Battlecruisers, 375,480 tonnage
2 Battlecruisers (Imperial Federation Service), 54,400 tonnage
Total Capital Ship Tonnage of 1,101,380 tons against a limit of 1,110,000
13 Aircraft Carriers in service, 348,850 tonnage
1 Aircraft Carrier being built, 25,900 tonnage
Total Aircraft Carrier Tonnage of 374,750 tonnage against a limit of 615,000
Total Strength:
Active
20 Battleships
8 Battlecruisers
14 Aircraft Carriers
6 Light Aircraft Carriers
19 Heavy Cruisers
68 Light Cruisers
159 Destroyers
81 Submarines (Various)
Pre-commission work ups/Fitting Out/Slip Way/Laid Down/Ordered
6 Battleships
2 Battlecruisers
2 Aircraft Carriers
2 Light Aircraft Carriers
4 Heavy Cruisers
6 Light Cruisers
48 Destroyers
12 Submarines
Reserves
4 Battleships
23 Light Cruisers
89 Destroyers
29 Submarines
Ship Overview (Cap Ships and Carriers)
Battleships
Ramillies Class Battleships, Reserve
25,000 tons displacement, oil fired boilers, turbine driven, 21.5 knots, 10 x 13.5/45s in twin turrets (Superfiring), 12 x 6/45s castmates, 2 x 3 AA Guns
HMS Ramillies
HMS Resolution
HMS Revenge
HMS Royal Sovereign
Royal Oak Class Battleship
27,500 tons displacement, oil fired boilers, turbine driven, 24 knots, 8 x 15/42s in twin turrets (Superfiring), 16 x 6/45s castmates, 2 x 3 inch 20 cwt AA Guns,
HMS Royal Oak
HMS Repulse
HMS Iron Duke
HMS Marlborough
HMS Benbow
HMS Emperor of India
Queen Elizabeth Class Battleship, slated to be modernized in 1938
29,150 tons displacement, oil fired boilers, turbine driven, 21 knots, 8 x 15/42s in twin turrets(Superfiring), 14 x 6/45s in castmates, 4 x 3 inch 20 cwt AA Guns
HMS Queen Elizabeth
HMS Agincourt
HMS Malaya
HMS Barham
HMS Valiant
HMS Warspite
Renown Class Battleships
47,900 tons displacement, oil fired boilers, turbine driven, 23 knots, 9 x 16/45s in triple turrets (grouped forward), 8 x 6/50s in twin turrets, 6 x QF 4.7 Inch AA Guns,
HMS Renown
HMS Majestic
HMS Illustrious
HMS Victorious
Ark Royal Class Battleships (Treaty Battleship)
45,000 tons displacement (Official), 46,250 tons displacement (Actual), 9 x 16.5/45s in triple turrets (grouped forward), 12 x 5.25/50s in twin turrets, 24 x 2 pdr AA Cannons (Quad Mount)
HMS Ark Royal
HMS Magnificent
Vengeance Class Battleships
58,500 tons displacement, 12 x 16.5/50s in quad turrets (grouped forward), 16 x 5.25/50s in twin turrets, 32 x 2 pdr AA Cannons (Quad Mount)
Vengeance, Pre-Commission Work Ups
Lion, Fitting Out
Temeraire, Fitting Out
Conqueror, Slip Way
Thunderer Class Battleship
67,800 tons displacement, 3 x 18/45s in triple turrets (grouped forward), 20 x 5.25/50s in twin turrets, 24 x 2 pdr AA Cannons (Quad Mount)
Thunderer, Laid Down
Glory, Ordered
Orders for two more pending
Battlecruisers
The Saint Class, slated for modernization in 1938/39
45,470 tons displacement, oil fired boilers, turbine driven, 31 knots, 8 x 15/42s in twin turrets (Superfiring), 16 x 5.5/50s in single mounts, 4 x 4 inch AA Guns in single mounts
HMS St. George
HMS St. Andrews
HMS St. Patrick
HMS St. David
The Admiral Class Battlecruiser
48,400 tons displacement, oil fired boilers, turbine driven, 32 knots, 9 x 15/42s in triple turrets, (Group Forward), 8 x 6/50s in twin turrets, 6 x 4 inch AA Guns in single mounts
HMS Hood
HMS Nelson
HMS Anson
HMS Howe
Rodney Class Battlecruiser
34,500 tons displacement, oil fired boilers, turbine driven, 31 knots, 8 x 13.5/45s in twin turrets (Reused turrets and guns, but modernized), 8 x 5.25/50s in twin turrets, 16 x 2 pdr AA Cannons (Quad Mount)
Rodney, Laid Down
Collingwood, Ordered
Order for two more pending
Aircraft Carrier
Eagle Class Aircraft Carriers (Ex-Brazilian Light Battlecruisers)
24,200 tons displacement, oil fired boilers, turbine driven, 30 knots, 16 x 4.7 AA Guns in Single Mounts, 48 Aircraft
HMS Eagle
HMS Furious
Glorious Class Aircraft Carriers, (Ex-ocean liner)
14,450 tons displacement, coal-fired boilers, turbine driven, 21 knots, 4 x 4 inch AA Guns, 18 Aircraft
HMS Glorious, Training Ship
Dreadnought Class Aircraft Carriers
42,100 tons displacement, oil-fired boilers, turbine driven, 30 knots, 4 x 7.5/45s in twin turrets, 10 x 4.7 inch AA Guns in Single Mounts, 85 Aircraft
HMS Dreadnought
HMS Formidable
Indomitable Class Aircraft Carriers
24,500 tons displacement, oil-fired boilers, turbine driven, 31 knots, 18 x 4.5/45s in twin turrets, 16 x 2 pdr AA Cannons (Quad Mount), 72 Aircraft
HMS Indomitable
HMS Vindictive
HMS Centurion
Neptune Class Aircraft Carriers
25,500 tons displacement, oil-fired boilers, turbine driven, 31 knots, 20 x 4.5/45s in twin turrets, 16 x 2 pdr AA Cannons (Quad Mount), 60 Aircraft
HMS Neptune
HMS St. Vincent
HMS Superb
Vanguard Class Aircraft Carriers
25,900 tons displacement, oil-fired boilers, turbine driven, 31 knots, 16 x 4.5/45s in twin turrets, 16 x 2 pdr AA Cannons (Quad Mount), 68 Aircraft
HMS Vanguard
HMS Bellerophon
HMS Orion
Monarch Class Aircraft Carriers
26,500 tons displacement, oil fired boilers, 30 knots, 16 x 4.5/45s in twin turrets, 16 x 2 pdr AA Cannons, 72 Aircraft
Monarch, Fitting Out
Audacious, Slip Way
Light Aircraft Carriers
Argus Class Light Aircraft Carriers
10,850 tons displacement, oil fired boilers, 25 knots, 6 x 5.5/50s in single mounts, 4 x 4 inch AA Guns in single mounts, 20 Aircraft
HMS Argus
Hermes Class Light Aircraft Carriers (Ex-Heavy Cruisers)
10,200 tons displacement, oil fired boilers, 30 knots, 8 x 3 inch 20 cwt AA Guns, 12 Aircraft
HMS Hermes
HMS Unicorn
HMS Perseus
Pioneer Class Light Aircraft Carriers
11,100 tons displacement, oil fired boilers, 28 knots, 6 x 3 inch 20 cwt AA Guns, 24 Aircraft
HMS Pioneer
HMS Theseus
Archer (A) Class Light Aircraft Carrier
11,500 tons displacement, oil fired boilers, 30 knots, 16 x 2 pdr AA Cannons (Quad Mount), 24 Aircraft
Archer, Slip Way
Ajax, Laid Down
Order for three more pending
Marine Corp
Commandant of the Corp: Major General Aaron Rimes
Unit Strength:
3 Marine Brigades
[1] She is the childless and unmarried daughter of Edward VII. She is getting ready to die.
[2] Yes it’s the same name from OTL, but a radically different person than OTL.
[3] David Margesson, but darker
[4] Anthony Eden, but darker
[5] Andrew Cunningham, but again darker, a common trait here with the British
[6] Alan Brooke, but again darker
[7] .280 British
[8] Pedersen Rifle
[8] MAC Mle 1950
[9] Sten Mk V
[10] A Bren in .280 British but it retains the 30 round magazine
[11] Sholto Douglas, but again darker
[12] Bruce Fraser, but again darker
Government Type: Constitutional Monarchy (On Paper), Fascist State (In reality)
Head of State: Queen Victoria II [1]
Head of Government: Prime Minister Winston Churchill [2]
Power Status: Great Power
Population: 50,394,394 (1937 Projected)
Minister of War: Booker Milford [3]
Minister of Navy: Winston Churchill
Minister of Air: Louis Clifton [4]
Chief of the General Staff: Admiral of the Fleet Allan Logan [5]
Conscription:
Conscription was a touchy subject within the British Isles and had only been used in the later stages of the Great War before being ended in 1920. But the rise of the Conservative Empire Party saw laws and indeed the British Isles slowly change over the years. In 1931 conscription returned to the British Isles. Even through the British was a de facto fascist nation by this point with the CEP really tighting the laws in the wake of the 1928 Depression, conscription within the British Isles was still a touchy subject. Service was set up to were males who are conscripted have one of three choices. The first was the military service choice which is 18 months long. Then following this service its five years in either the territorial, naval, or RAF reserves.
The other two forms of conscription are in the form of Construction Service to the empire. The first is Empire Construction Service, where young men who have reached draft age at the age of 21 decide to help build up the empire instead of serving in the armed forces. The ECS choice is 36 months of service and being set anywhere in the empire building things. The third choice is the Domestic Construction Service. Under the DCS choice these men will spend five years building things within the British Isles. A keen eye observer would note that both the ECS and DCS have built up a number of either pure military projects or duel use infrastructure projects across the empire.
Army
Army Chief of Staff: Field Marshal Thaddeus Marion [6]
Unit Strength: (Note counting British Army only, no colonial units in this TO&E)
27 Infantry Divisions, 6 Motorized Infantry Divisions, 6 Calvary Divisions, 3 Armored Divisions, 11 Construction Service brigades, 6 Motorized Infantry Brigades, 6 Calvary Brigades, 3 Armored Brigades
Equipment:
Small Arms
The British have when in a very difference direction than everyone in their efforts for a semi-automatic rifle. They have designed and built a toggle blow-back system firing a .280 round[7]. The Enfield Semi-Automatic Rifle[8] is per rifle the most costly semi-automatic rifle that was fielded by either the great or regional powers in the world. Yet the Enfield rifle is liked by all those troops that have been issue it. Its regarded as a light but still powerful rifle that many troops enjoy to shoot. However, not all formations have been issued the Enfield Rifle with it being fielded in 1933. Just under half of the British Army Infantry units still use the older Lee-Enfield Rifle. The goal is to fully equip the British Army with the Enfield Semi-Automatic Rifle by the end of 1941.
The British became the last great power to adopt a semi-automatic pistol as its standard service side arm when they fielded the Webley Semi-Automatic Pistol[8] firing a .380 round. It a mark improvement over the revolvers that were used in the great war as it fires a round that is much more controllable than the .455 round used in the Great War along with gives the user three more rounds. In 1931 they also fielded a new submachine which replaced their reversed engineered MP-17 submachine gun which they had been using since 1920. The Enfield Submachine Gun[9] fires the .380 round that the Webley fires. It was also one of the first stamped metal submachine guns designed and the first one fielded.
For machine guns the British have retained the older .303 round for the Vickers Machine Gun as it gives a heavier punch than the .280 rounds being used for the Enfield Semi-Automatic Rifle. Yet they have decided to field a light machine gun in the same size as the Enfield Semi-Automatic Rifle. After some trials they have finally fielded the Vickers Light Machine Gun[10] early in 1937. It’s a magazine fed weapon, but unlike many light machine guns it’s a top fed design. The few troops that have been issued the Vickers LMG love the weapon.
Infantry Support Weapons
The British have updated the Mills Bomb which they have been using since the Great War in 1931. Much like the American upgrade for the weapon they cut the time down from 7 to 4 seconds and changed the filler out for a better high explosive. Unlike the Americans the British also worked on the fuse of the weapon to make it easier to make. The British were the first to field what is viewed as the modern infantry mortar during the Great War. Yet during the 1920s the French designed what became the new standard in infantry mortars with their 60 and 81 mm mortars. Yet with the growing relationships between Berlin and Paris growing and relationships between London and Paris falling apart forced the British to designed their own new infantry mortars. This led to the Ordnance SBML Two Inch Mortar which is used in the same role as the French 60mm design but has a lighter shell than the 60mm French Design. They further have designed the Ordnance ML 3 inch design. Even through its labelled as a 3 inch design its really a 3.2 inch design. Its performance its about the same of the French 81 mm design.
Artillery
The British started in the early 1930s started upgrading their artillery to more modern designs as they had to keep up with changing artillery in Europe. The first one they fielded in 1933 was the Ordnance QF 25 pounder. It’s a duel field gun and howitzer. Then a year later they fielded the BL 4.5 Inch Medium Field Gun which was designed to take over the role of counter battery missions within the British Army. Its also used in the howitzer role. The heavier brother to the BL 4.5 Inch is the BL 5.5 Inch Medium Gun which has just entered service. None of the three have fully replaced Great War designs.
For their anti-armor gun the British brought a license from Austria-Hungary to make their anti-armor artillery. This was the 3.7 cm Pak 34 in 1935. This is known as the 2 pounder Anti-Tank Gun. They further brought from Austria-Hungary the license to make the 2 cm Flak 31 for their light anti-air artillery. Yet for their heavier anti-air artillery they have their own domestic design the QF 3.7 inch AA Gun. The QF 3.7 inch is one of the larger anti-aircraft guns in service at the moment.
Light Goliath
Light Goliath Mk IX (Light Tank VI)
Weight: 5.5 t
Crew: 3 (Commander, Driver, Gunner)
Armor: up to ¾ of inch
Main Armament: .50 machine gun
Secondary Armament: .303 machine gun
Engine: slant six, liquid cooled
Operational Range: 150 miles
Speed: 32 mph
Entered Service: 1934
Medium Goliath
Infantry Mk II (Matilda I)
Weight: 10.6 t
Crew: 2 (Commander, Driver)
Armor: up to 2 ¼ inch
Armament: .50 machine gun
Engine: V-8, liquid cooled
Operational Range: 75 miles
Speed: 9 mph
Entered Service: 1937
Cruiser Mk III (Cruiser Mk I)
Weight: 13.9 t
Crew: 6 (Commander, Driver, Gunner, Loader, 2 x Machine Gunners)
Armor: up to 1 inch
Main Armament: 2 pounder
Secondary Armament: 3 x .303 machine guns
Operational Range: 100 miles
Speed: 21 mph
Entered Service: 1937
Air Force
Air Force Chief of Staff: Marshal of the RAF Zachariah Vaughn [11]
Aircraft Strength:
3,290 front line aircraft
Equipment:
Fighter
Thunder (Hawker Hurricane)
Crew: 1
Powerplant: V-12, Liquid Cooled
Speed: 319 mph
Range: 600 miles
Service Ceiling: 31,500 feet
Armament: 6 x .303 machine guns and up to 250 lbs of ordnance
Entered Service: 1936
Mustang (Supermarine Spitfire)
Crew: 1
Powerplant: V-12, Liquid Cooled
Speed: 357 mph
Range: 450 miles
Service Ceiling: 31,900 feet
Armament: 8 x .303 machine guns
Entered Service: 1937
Close Air Support
Fox (Fairey Battle)
Crew: 3 (Pilot, Bombardier, Gunner)
Powerplant: V-12, Liquid Cooled
Speed: 259 mph
Range: 950 miles
Service Ceiling: 25,500 feet
Armament: 2 x .303 machine guns and up to 1,500 lbs of ordnance
Entered Service: 1935
Tactical Bomber
Hurricane (Bristol Blenheim)
Crew: 3 (Pilot, Bombardier/Navigator, Radio Operator/Gunner)
Powerplant: 2 x 9 cylinder radicals
Top Speed: 431 km/h
Range: 2,400 km
Service Ceiling: 8,900 m
Armament: 2 x .303 mm Machine Guns and up to 650 kg of ordnance
Entered Service: 1935
Marauder (Armstrong Whitworth Whitley)
Crew: 5 (Pilot, Bombardier/Gunner, Navigator, Flight Engineer/Radio Operator, Gunner)
Powerplant: 2 x V-12, Liquid Cooled
Top Speed: 239 mph
Range: 1,500 miles
Service Ceiling: 26,500 ft
Armament: 5 x .303 machine gunners, and up to 3,000 lbs of Ordnance
Entered Service: 1936
Special Notes: Designed as a night bomber
Navy
Chief of Naval Operations: Henry Phillip [12]
When the Naval Treaty System Broke Down in 1934
22 Battleships (Including 2 Treaty BBs), 671,500 tonnage
8 Battlecruisers, 375,480 tonnage
2 Battlecruisers (Imperial Federation Service), 54,400 tonnage
Total Capital Ship Tonnage of 1,101,380 tons against a limit of 1,110,000
13 Aircraft Carriers in service, 348,850 tonnage
1 Aircraft Carrier being built, 25,900 tonnage
Total Aircraft Carrier Tonnage of 374,750 tonnage against a limit of 615,000
Total Strength:
Active
20 Battleships
8 Battlecruisers
14 Aircraft Carriers
6 Light Aircraft Carriers
19 Heavy Cruisers
68 Light Cruisers
159 Destroyers
81 Submarines (Various)
Pre-commission work ups/Fitting Out/Slip Way/Laid Down/Ordered
6 Battleships
2 Battlecruisers
2 Aircraft Carriers
2 Light Aircraft Carriers
4 Heavy Cruisers
6 Light Cruisers
48 Destroyers
12 Submarines
Reserves
4 Battleships
23 Light Cruisers
89 Destroyers
29 Submarines
Ship Overview (Cap Ships and Carriers)
Battleships
Ramillies Class Battleships, Reserve
25,000 tons displacement, oil fired boilers, turbine driven, 21.5 knots, 10 x 13.5/45s in twin turrets (Superfiring), 12 x 6/45s castmates, 2 x 3 AA Guns
HMS Ramillies
HMS Resolution
HMS Revenge
HMS Royal Sovereign
Royal Oak Class Battleship
27,500 tons displacement, oil fired boilers, turbine driven, 24 knots, 8 x 15/42s in twin turrets (Superfiring), 16 x 6/45s castmates, 2 x 3 inch 20 cwt AA Guns,
HMS Royal Oak
HMS Repulse
HMS Iron Duke
HMS Marlborough
HMS Benbow
HMS Emperor of India
Queen Elizabeth Class Battleship, slated to be modernized in 1938
29,150 tons displacement, oil fired boilers, turbine driven, 21 knots, 8 x 15/42s in twin turrets(Superfiring), 14 x 6/45s in castmates, 4 x 3 inch 20 cwt AA Guns
HMS Queen Elizabeth
HMS Agincourt
HMS Malaya
HMS Barham
HMS Valiant
HMS Warspite
Renown Class Battleships
47,900 tons displacement, oil fired boilers, turbine driven, 23 knots, 9 x 16/45s in triple turrets (grouped forward), 8 x 6/50s in twin turrets, 6 x QF 4.7 Inch AA Guns,
HMS Renown
HMS Majestic
HMS Illustrious
HMS Victorious
Ark Royal Class Battleships (Treaty Battleship)
45,000 tons displacement (Official), 46,250 tons displacement (Actual), 9 x 16.5/45s in triple turrets (grouped forward), 12 x 5.25/50s in twin turrets, 24 x 2 pdr AA Cannons (Quad Mount)
HMS Ark Royal
HMS Magnificent
Vengeance Class Battleships
58,500 tons displacement, 12 x 16.5/50s in quad turrets (grouped forward), 16 x 5.25/50s in twin turrets, 32 x 2 pdr AA Cannons (Quad Mount)
Vengeance, Pre-Commission Work Ups
Lion, Fitting Out
Temeraire, Fitting Out
Conqueror, Slip Way
Thunderer Class Battleship
67,800 tons displacement, 3 x 18/45s in triple turrets (grouped forward), 20 x 5.25/50s in twin turrets, 24 x 2 pdr AA Cannons (Quad Mount)
Thunderer, Laid Down
Glory, Ordered
Orders for two more pending
Battlecruisers
The Saint Class, slated for modernization in 1938/39
45,470 tons displacement, oil fired boilers, turbine driven, 31 knots, 8 x 15/42s in twin turrets (Superfiring), 16 x 5.5/50s in single mounts, 4 x 4 inch AA Guns in single mounts
HMS St. George
HMS St. Andrews
HMS St. Patrick
HMS St. David
The Admiral Class Battlecruiser
48,400 tons displacement, oil fired boilers, turbine driven, 32 knots, 9 x 15/42s in triple turrets, (Group Forward), 8 x 6/50s in twin turrets, 6 x 4 inch AA Guns in single mounts
HMS Hood
HMS Nelson
HMS Anson
HMS Howe
Rodney Class Battlecruiser
34,500 tons displacement, oil fired boilers, turbine driven, 31 knots, 8 x 13.5/45s in twin turrets (Reused turrets and guns, but modernized), 8 x 5.25/50s in twin turrets, 16 x 2 pdr AA Cannons (Quad Mount)
Rodney, Laid Down
Collingwood, Ordered
Order for two more pending
Aircraft Carrier
Eagle Class Aircraft Carriers (Ex-Brazilian Light Battlecruisers)
24,200 tons displacement, oil fired boilers, turbine driven, 30 knots, 16 x 4.7 AA Guns in Single Mounts, 48 Aircraft
HMS Eagle
HMS Furious
Glorious Class Aircraft Carriers, (Ex-ocean liner)
14,450 tons displacement, coal-fired boilers, turbine driven, 21 knots, 4 x 4 inch AA Guns, 18 Aircraft
HMS Glorious, Training Ship
Dreadnought Class Aircraft Carriers
42,100 tons displacement, oil-fired boilers, turbine driven, 30 knots, 4 x 7.5/45s in twin turrets, 10 x 4.7 inch AA Guns in Single Mounts, 85 Aircraft
HMS Dreadnought
HMS Formidable
Indomitable Class Aircraft Carriers
24,500 tons displacement, oil-fired boilers, turbine driven, 31 knots, 18 x 4.5/45s in twin turrets, 16 x 2 pdr AA Cannons (Quad Mount), 72 Aircraft
HMS Indomitable
HMS Vindictive
HMS Centurion
Neptune Class Aircraft Carriers
25,500 tons displacement, oil-fired boilers, turbine driven, 31 knots, 20 x 4.5/45s in twin turrets, 16 x 2 pdr AA Cannons (Quad Mount), 60 Aircraft
HMS Neptune
HMS St. Vincent
HMS Superb
Vanguard Class Aircraft Carriers
25,900 tons displacement, oil-fired boilers, turbine driven, 31 knots, 16 x 4.5/45s in twin turrets, 16 x 2 pdr AA Cannons (Quad Mount), 68 Aircraft
HMS Vanguard
HMS Bellerophon
HMS Orion
Monarch Class Aircraft Carriers
26,500 tons displacement, oil fired boilers, 30 knots, 16 x 4.5/45s in twin turrets, 16 x 2 pdr AA Cannons, 72 Aircraft
Monarch, Fitting Out
Audacious, Slip Way
Light Aircraft Carriers
Argus Class Light Aircraft Carriers
10,850 tons displacement, oil fired boilers, 25 knots, 6 x 5.5/50s in single mounts, 4 x 4 inch AA Guns in single mounts, 20 Aircraft
HMS Argus
Hermes Class Light Aircraft Carriers (Ex-Heavy Cruisers)
10,200 tons displacement, oil fired boilers, 30 knots, 8 x 3 inch 20 cwt AA Guns, 12 Aircraft
HMS Hermes
HMS Unicorn
HMS Perseus
Pioneer Class Light Aircraft Carriers
11,100 tons displacement, oil fired boilers, 28 knots, 6 x 3 inch 20 cwt AA Guns, 24 Aircraft
HMS Pioneer
HMS Theseus
Archer (A) Class Light Aircraft Carrier
11,500 tons displacement, oil fired boilers, 30 knots, 16 x 2 pdr AA Cannons (Quad Mount), 24 Aircraft
Archer, Slip Way
Ajax, Laid Down
Order for three more pending
Marine Corp
Commandant of the Corp: Major General Aaron Rimes
Unit Strength:
3 Marine Brigades
[1] She is the childless and unmarried daughter of Edward VII. She is getting ready to die.
[2] Yes it’s the same name from OTL, but a radically different person than OTL.
[3] David Margesson, but darker
[4] Anthony Eden, but darker
[5] Andrew Cunningham, but again darker, a common trait here with the British
[6] Alan Brooke, but again darker
[7] .280 British
[8] Pedersen Rifle
[8] MAC Mle 1950
[9] Sten Mk V
[10] A Bren in .280 British but it retains the 30 round magazine
[11] Sholto Douglas, but again darker
[12] Bruce Fraser, but again darker
That force seems surprisingly large for the British to field, especially in regards to their army. Going to be rough to keep fielding that large of an army. As for their navy, IIRC they've got the most aircraft carriers in service, which will prove to be a problem for their enemies. Interesting to see the British building up their empire in addition to the Home Islands, so that would suggest the British are preparing for a multi-theater war, and might just be more prepared than any of the other powers atm.
Ok a little information about carriers ITL.
The US have the most fleet flat tops. As to most flat tops, currently undecided. Updates wise its the British. But as to fleet flat tops its the US, a lead they aren't going to give up. Not after the Second None to Act is signed in XXXX. Even before that they will keep the lead.
To the US built its solo CVL to date so far more as a test bed. They unlike other nations really didn't want to put money into a cruiser size flat top but congress being congress forced the USN to build one for testing. Mainly because they are cheaper than full size flat tops. However after only a few years of active service it was placed in reserves were she is still. This was because after a series of fleet problems it was found out that the guys doing the design studies were right and CVL isn't worth the trade offs that a lot more people are willing to make. That said it being looked at being her back to active service to test some new tactics that will be handy in a war. Like guarding convoys...
Pound for pound the US has better carriers than everyone else. The only edge that the British, German, Austro Hungarian, and the sole French and Italian has over the American and Japanese carriers is the fact they have an armored deck. The US has better AA suits and can carry more aircraft. A French CVL Class however through itself a boom its having effects on the next class of CVs being designed at the moment. More on that later through.
There however was a reason the CVL loophole was closed. This was because nations like the British, Germans, French, and Italians were building them to get more ships for cheap and still allow fleet flat tops to be built and not eat up the cap room. The Austro Hungarians didn't make any CVLs nor plan to in 37. Their sole CV class through, well, its a piece of work. The French and Italians kept building CVLs after the loop hole was closed as it was cheaper than building full length flat tops. Their sole fleet CVs was a matter of pride, they are great powers and they wanted their CVs damn it.
As to the British building up their empire...
Soviet Republic of Spain, 1937
Soviet Republic of Spain
Government Type: Single Party Communist Nation
Head of State: Chairman Baldomero Rafael
Head of Government: General Secretary Amando Geronimo
Power Status: Regional Power
Population: 29,495,394 (1937 Projected)
Minister of War: Quique Flavio
Minister of Navy: Lino Cleto
Minister of Air: Bautista Leonardo
Chief of the General Staff: Front Commander 1st Rank Nicolao Silvestre
Conscription:
Every man within the República Soviética de España or the RSE[1] for short is coscripted into the armed forces for 24 months of service. Technical testing decides which branch of service a man joins so he can perform his up most and both himself and the state, this includes political testing. Following this time in active service these new Soviet men of the RSE enter a reserve system category based reserved system. The only of the B through E categories of this reserve system worth talking about is the Category B Reserves. Cat B Reserves are the only active reservist in the system with drills once a month for four days in that month with a three week training exercise during the summer. Like the active service this service in Cat B units is 24 months.
Army
Army Chief of Staff: Front Commander 2nd Rank Marcio Guiomar
Unit Strength:
18 Infantry Divisions, 9 Mountain Divisions, 6 Fortress Divisions, 3 Armored Brigades
Equipment:
Small Arms
One of the goals of every communist nation whose leaders truly believe that the rest of the world is bent on destroying them at the first chance they can is to build up enough weapons to make sure this never comes to past. This caused the ESR to start making Mauser rifles for which they had a license they had taken over from the Spanish Kingdom soon after the end of the civil war. Only they were refusing to pay Mauser the license fees for making the rifle which they were running at full production. Yet with the need to field a semi-automatic rifle as the growing number of nations building them, the ESR decided to so the rest of the world what the brand new Soviet men of Spain could do. They fielded the Rifle de Carge Automatica Modelo 1937[2]. This rifle is being issued to the elite Mountain Units first and first reports are this rifle is easy to shoot and well designed. However the rifle itself has been influenced by designs from across the world, notably Austria-Hungary and the United States.
The submachine gun fielded by the Soviet Spanish Army is out right crude. Even by communist standards. The Pistola Ametralladora Modello 1932[3] was designed from the word go to be easy to make and eliminate as much of the machining needed to make it. Chambered in the 9mm Largo round and fitted with a 25 box magazine the Modello 1932 is a fairly effective and cheap. But up against other modern submachine guns the Modello 1932 falls short. For their service sidearm the Spanish are using the Modelo de Pistola 1925[4]. This is also chambered in 9mm Largo. For their machine gun they are using an updated version of the Maxim machine gun[5]. This is a far lighter machine gun than the Maxim that was in common use in the Spanish Civil War, but is clearly based on the Maxim design.
Infantry Support Weapons
For their primary hand grenade the Spanish use an unlicensed copy of the French F1 design which they came to have because of their efforts to prop up the communist in the French Civil War. They liked the designed and simply started to make it for themselves. Other than the markings being in Spanish it’s the same grenade. It was also from their efforts during the French Civil War that they gained their first modern infantry mortars. Like the French F1 hand grenades they simply started to make unlicensed copies for their own use.
Yet by the early 1930s the RSE knew it was time to start upgrading its mortars for more modern and mobile designs. Like other communism nations they simply make use of unlicensed designs and have started to field slightly modified French 60 and 81 mm mortar designs that are a mark upgrade over the older British designs that they were using beforehand. Yet both designs are still in wide spread use within the Spanish military. Only in the past few weeks through the Soviet Spanish and the Soviet Union have come to an agreement to make the Soviet Union’s flamethrower in Spain.
Artillery
During the early to mid 1920s the Soviet Spanish made use of many different kinds of foreign made artillery that was left over from their civil war. However, Madrid was driven to start making their own artillery domestically and replace all the foreign designs currently in service with their own designs. Yet the Spanish had to start from nothing outside some light abilities to make 75 mm size artillery in limited numbers. This led to the 75 mm Divisional Gun M1934[6] being fielded. The M1934 is a semi-universal gun which is proving to be its down fall. The Spanish had tried to make the M1934 do everything, and it can do everything, but it can’t do any of its assigned tasked very well when put up against modern artillery in the same role. It’s performance as a field gun would be on par with designs dating from the Great War of about the same caliber. That said its not a bad first outing for Spain on designing their own artillery.
Even through there is an effort to improve the M1934 that hasn’t stopped the ESR from pushing forward with new artillery designs. This led them to field the 102 mm Divisional Gun M1937[7]. The M1937 takes lessons learned from the M1934 and puts them into a larger piece. The M1937 through retaining the anti-armor and howitzer mission tasked with the M1934 they removed the idea of trying to get this gun to also perform anti-air missions. The main weaken of the M1937 through is it shell which doesn’t have the HE shell size for guns of about the same caliber. This is primary because the Spanish for reasons known only to them decided to use mild steel shells which eats up space for explosive fillings.
For larger artillery the Spanish license builds Soviet Union 152 mm howitzers. But even with the massive efforts the Spanish have been putting into building up their artillery industry their abilities to make artillery this large is still limited and they still buy Soviet 152 mm howitzers to help make up for this short fall. In 1937 they fielded a truly different anti-armor gun based on German technology. The 28/20 Anti Tank Gun M1937[8] is different than anything currently fielded by every nation on the fact of the Earth. It uses a tapered bore system that fires a tungsten carbide shell. The gun gives great armor penetration. However the technology to make such a weapon is found in only limited amounts in Spain as Germany isn’t selling this to the Soviet Spanish.
Light Goliath
T-36 (AMR-35)
Weight: 6.6 t
Crew: 2 (Commander, Driver)
Armor: up to 13 mm
Armament: 14.5 mm machine gun
Engine: Straight Four, Liquid Cooled
Operational Range: 200 km
Speed: 50 km/h
Entered Service: 1936
Air Force
Air Force Chief of Staff: Senior Aviation Commander Anastasio Nacho
Aircraft Strength:
1,800 Front Line Aircraft
Equipment:
Fighters
C-19 (Polikarpov I-15)
Crew: 1
Powerplant: 9 cylinder, radical (Unlicensed British Designed)
Speed: 352 km/h
Range: 450 km
Service Ceiling: 7,300 m
Armament: 4 x 7 mm machine guns
Entered Service: 1934
C-23 (Seversky P-35)
Crew: 1
Powerplant: 14 cylinder, radical (Unlicensed American Designed)
Speed: 457 km/h
Range: 1,500 km
Service Ceiling: 9,500 m
Armament: 2 x 7 mm machine guns and 2 x 14.5 mm machine guns
Entered Service: 1937
Close Air Support
BB-9 (Breda Ba.64)
Crew: 2 (Pilot, Gunner)
Powerplant: 9 cylinder, radical (Unlicensed British Designed)
Speed: 356 km/h
Range: 850 km
Service Ceiling: 7,000 m
Armament: 1 x 7 mm machine gun, 2 x 14.5 mm machine guns, and up to 550 kg of ordnance
Entered Service: 1936
Tactical Bombers
SB (Tupolev SB), Brought from the Soviet Union
Crew: 3 (Pilot, Navigator/Bombardier, Radio operation/Gunner)
Powerplant: 2 x V-12, liquid cooled (Unlicensed German Design via the Soviet Union)
Speed: 428 km/h
Range: 2,300 km
Service Ceiling: 9,100 m
Armament: 4 x 7 mm machine guns, and up to 1,100 kg of ordnance
Entered Service: 1936
Kit Built in the ESR, Kit Brought from the USSR
Navy
Chief of Naval Operations: Fleet Commander Esteban Abel
Total Strength:
Active Duty
2 Light Cruisers (Soviet and Italian Naval Help)
14 Destroyers (Soviet and Italian Naval Help)
22 Submarines (Soviet Naval Help, Various)
Pre-Commission Work Ups/Fitting Out/Slip Way/Laid Down/Ordered
2 Battleships
2 Light Aircraft Carriers
1 Light Cruiser
4 Destroyers
11 Submarines (Various)
Ship Overview (Cap Ships and Carriers)
Battleships
Soviet Spain Class (Soviet and Italian Naval Help)
15,590 tons displacement, Diesel Engines, 25 knots, 6 x 280mm L/52 in Triple Turrets, 8 x 152mm L/57 in Single Turrets, 4 x 75mm AA Guns in Single Mounts, 6 x 533mm torpedo tubes in triple tubes
Soviet Spain, Fitting Out
Soviet Morocco, Slip Way
Light Aircraft Carriers
Soviet Sahara Class (Soviet and Italian Navy Help)
8,950 tons displacement, Diesel Engines, 28 knots, 2 x 75 mm AA Guns in Single Mounts, 4 x 37 mm Autocannons in duel mount, 12 Aircraft
Soviet Sahara, Fitting Out
Soviet Guinea, Slip Way
Marine Corp
Commandant of the Corp: Division Commander Apolinar Custodio
Unit Strength:
2 Naval Infantry Brigades
[1] The RSE is kind of like the OTL USSR. There are four Soviet Spanish Republics, Soviet Spain, Soviet Morocco, Soviet Sahara, and Soviet Guinea. Further like the USSR the Soviet Spain one is in the driver seat and controls almost everything.
[2] Kbsp wz. 1938M in Spanish 7 mm
[3] PPS Submachine Gun in 9mm Largo
[4] Astra 400
[5] Maxim-Tokarev
[6] 76 mm Divisional Gun M1936 (F-22), only instead of Soviet 76.2 ammo it’s a 75 mm gun.
[7] 4.5 inch Gun M1, but ITL it’s a 102 instead of 114 of OTL.
[8] 2.8 cm sPzB 41
Government Type: Single Party Communist Nation
Head of State: Chairman Baldomero Rafael
Head of Government: General Secretary Amando Geronimo
Power Status: Regional Power
Population: 29,495,394 (1937 Projected)
Minister of War: Quique Flavio
Minister of Navy: Lino Cleto
Minister of Air: Bautista Leonardo
Chief of the General Staff: Front Commander 1st Rank Nicolao Silvestre
Conscription:
Every man within the República Soviética de España or the RSE[1] for short is coscripted into the armed forces for 24 months of service. Technical testing decides which branch of service a man joins so he can perform his up most and both himself and the state, this includes political testing. Following this time in active service these new Soviet men of the RSE enter a reserve system category based reserved system. The only of the B through E categories of this reserve system worth talking about is the Category B Reserves. Cat B Reserves are the only active reservist in the system with drills once a month for four days in that month with a three week training exercise during the summer. Like the active service this service in Cat B units is 24 months.
Army
Army Chief of Staff: Front Commander 2nd Rank Marcio Guiomar
Unit Strength:
18 Infantry Divisions, 9 Mountain Divisions, 6 Fortress Divisions, 3 Armored Brigades
Equipment:
Small Arms
One of the goals of every communist nation whose leaders truly believe that the rest of the world is bent on destroying them at the first chance they can is to build up enough weapons to make sure this never comes to past. This caused the ESR to start making Mauser rifles for which they had a license they had taken over from the Spanish Kingdom soon after the end of the civil war. Only they were refusing to pay Mauser the license fees for making the rifle which they were running at full production. Yet with the need to field a semi-automatic rifle as the growing number of nations building them, the ESR decided to so the rest of the world what the brand new Soviet men of Spain could do. They fielded the Rifle de Carge Automatica Modelo 1937[2]. This rifle is being issued to the elite Mountain Units first and first reports are this rifle is easy to shoot and well designed. However the rifle itself has been influenced by designs from across the world, notably Austria-Hungary and the United States.
The submachine gun fielded by the Soviet Spanish Army is out right crude. Even by communist standards. The Pistola Ametralladora Modello 1932[3] was designed from the word go to be easy to make and eliminate as much of the machining needed to make it. Chambered in the 9mm Largo round and fitted with a 25 box magazine the Modello 1932 is a fairly effective and cheap. But up against other modern submachine guns the Modello 1932 falls short. For their service sidearm the Spanish are using the Modelo de Pistola 1925[4]. This is also chambered in 9mm Largo. For their machine gun they are using an updated version of the Maxim machine gun[5]. This is a far lighter machine gun than the Maxim that was in common use in the Spanish Civil War, but is clearly based on the Maxim design.
Infantry Support Weapons
For their primary hand grenade the Spanish use an unlicensed copy of the French F1 design which they came to have because of their efforts to prop up the communist in the French Civil War. They liked the designed and simply started to make it for themselves. Other than the markings being in Spanish it’s the same grenade. It was also from their efforts during the French Civil War that they gained their first modern infantry mortars. Like the French F1 hand grenades they simply started to make unlicensed copies for their own use.
Yet by the early 1930s the RSE knew it was time to start upgrading its mortars for more modern and mobile designs. Like other communism nations they simply make use of unlicensed designs and have started to field slightly modified French 60 and 81 mm mortar designs that are a mark upgrade over the older British designs that they were using beforehand. Yet both designs are still in wide spread use within the Spanish military. Only in the past few weeks through the Soviet Spanish and the Soviet Union have come to an agreement to make the Soviet Union’s flamethrower in Spain.
Artillery
During the early to mid 1920s the Soviet Spanish made use of many different kinds of foreign made artillery that was left over from their civil war. However, Madrid was driven to start making their own artillery domestically and replace all the foreign designs currently in service with their own designs. Yet the Spanish had to start from nothing outside some light abilities to make 75 mm size artillery in limited numbers. This led to the 75 mm Divisional Gun M1934[6] being fielded. The M1934 is a semi-universal gun which is proving to be its down fall. The Spanish had tried to make the M1934 do everything, and it can do everything, but it can’t do any of its assigned tasked very well when put up against modern artillery in the same role. It’s performance as a field gun would be on par with designs dating from the Great War of about the same caliber. That said its not a bad first outing for Spain on designing their own artillery.
Even through there is an effort to improve the M1934 that hasn’t stopped the ESR from pushing forward with new artillery designs. This led them to field the 102 mm Divisional Gun M1937[7]. The M1937 takes lessons learned from the M1934 and puts them into a larger piece. The M1937 through retaining the anti-armor and howitzer mission tasked with the M1934 they removed the idea of trying to get this gun to also perform anti-air missions. The main weaken of the M1937 through is it shell which doesn’t have the HE shell size for guns of about the same caliber. This is primary because the Spanish for reasons known only to them decided to use mild steel shells which eats up space for explosive fillings.
For larger artillery the Spanish license builds Soviet Union 152 mm howitzers. But even with the massive efforts the Spanish have been putting into building up their artillery industry their abilities to make artillery this large is still limited and they still buy Soviet 152 mm howitzers to help make up for this short fall. In 1937 they fielded a truly different anti-armor gun based on German technology. The 28/20 Anti Tank Gun M1937[8] is different than anything currently fielded by every nation on the fact of the Earth. It uses a tapered bore system that fires a tungsten carbide shell. The gun gives great armor penetration. However the technology to make such a weapon is found in only limited amounts in Spain as Germany isn’t selling this to the Soviet Spanish.
Light Goliath
T-36 (AMR-35)
Weight: 6.6 t
Crew: 2 (Commander, Driver)
Armor: up to 13 mm
Armament: 14.5 mm machine gun
Engine: Straight Four, Liquid Cooled
Operational Range: 200 km
Speed: 50 km/h
Entered Service: 1936
Air Force
Air Force Chief of Staff: Senior Aviation Commander Anastasio Nacho
Aircraft Strength:
1,800 Front Line Aircraft
Equipment:
Fighters
C-19 (Polikarpov I-15)
Crew: 1
Powerplant: 9 cylinder, radical (Unlicensed British Designed)
Speed: 352 km/h
Range: 450 km
Service Ceiling: 7,300 m
Armament: 4 x 7 mm machine guns
Entered Service: 1934
C-23 (Seversky P-35)
Crew: 1
Powerplant: 14 cylinder, radical (Unlicensed American Designed)
Speed: 457 km/h
Range: 1,500 km
Service Ceiling: 9,500 m
Armament: 2 x 7 mm machine guns and 2 x 14.5 mm machine guns
Entered Service: 1937
Close Air Support
BB-9 (Breda Ba.64)
Crew: 2 (Pilot, Gunner)
Powerplant: 9 cylinder, radical (Unlicensed British Designed)
Speed: 356 km/h
Range: 850 km
Service Ceiling: 7,000 m
Armament: 1 x 7 mm machine gun, 2 x 14.5 mm machine guns, and up to 550 kg of ordnance
Entered Service: 1936
Tactical Bombers
SB (Tupolev SB), Brought from the Soviet Union
Crew: 3 (Pilot, Navigator/Bombardier, Radio operation/Gunner)
Powerplant: 2 x V-12, liquid cooled (Unlicensed German Design via the Soviet Union)
Speed: 428 km/h
Range: 2,300 km
Service Ceiling: 9,100 m
Armament: 4 x 7 mm machine guns, and up to 1,100 kg of ordnance
Entered Service: 1936
Kit Built in the ESR, Kit Brought from the USSR
Navy
Chief of Naval Operations: Fleet Commander Esteban Abel
Total Strength:
Active Duty
2 Light Cruisers (Soviet and Italian Naval Help)
14 Destroyers (Soviet and Italian Naval Help)
22 Submarines (Soviet Naval Help, Various)
Pre-Commission Work Ups/Fitting Out/Slip Way/Laid Down/Ordered
2 Battleships
2 Light Aircraft Carriers
1 Light Cruiser
4 Destroyers
11 Submarines (Various)
Ship Overview (Cap Ships and Carriers)
Battleships
Soviet Spain Class (Soviet and Italian Naval Help)
15,590 tons displacement, Diesel Engines, 25 knots, 6 x 280mm L/52 in Triple Turrets, 8 x 152mm L/57 in Single Turrets, 4 x 75mm AA Guns in Single Mounts, 6 x 533mm torpedo tubes in triple tubes
Soviet Spain, Fitting Out
Soviet Morocco, Slip Way
Light Aircraft Carriers
Soviet Sahara Class (Soviet and Italian Navy Help)
8,950 tons displacement, Diesel Engines, 28 knots, 2 x 75 mm AA Guns in Single Mounts, 4 x 37 mm Autocannons in duel mount, 12 Aircraft
Soviet Sahara, Fitting Out
Soviet Guinea, Slip Way
Marine Corp
Commandant of the Corp: Division Commander Apolinar Custodio
Unit Strength:
2 Naval Infantry Brigades
[1] The RSE is kind of like the OTL USSR. There are four Soviet Spanish Republics, Soviet Spain, Soviet Morocco, Soviet Sahara, and Soviet Guinea. Further like the USSR the Soviet Spain one is in the driver seat and controls almost everything.
[2] Kbsp wz. 1938M in Spanish 7 mm
[3] PPS Submachine Gun in 9mm Largo
[4] Astra 400
[5] Maxim-Tokarev
[6] 76 mm Divisional Gun M1936 (F-22), only instead of Soviet 76.2 ammo it’s a 75 mm gun.
[7] 4.5 inch Gun M1, but ITL it’s a 102 instead of 114 of OTL.
[8] 2.8 cm sPzB 41
My half ass Map of Europe 1937, if someone wants to take a crack a making a better map, I'm willing to work with you. But this will give you an idea of borders there about in Europe. The World map will not have a Europe as I will go nuts trying do all the borders. Not borders aren't perfect, but there about give or take 20 or so miles.
At first Germany only tried to take a piece of Poland and set up a puppet Poland. The piece is roughly the OTL Polish Border Strip. The Poles said fuck that and rebelled against Germany. Germany say fuck you and ethnically cleansed Poland. Most were either forced into the Soviet Union or those with skills or means left to other western nations. There is less than two million Poles left in all of what is now Germany.