2018 Presidential Election

Discussion in 'Alternate History Books and Media' started by Marky Bunny, Jul 1, 2018.

  1. Marky Bunny Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2007
    Location:
    England
    The current favourites for the NPP Leadership once Robert Webster retires.

    Deputy Leader Nigel Simeonsen
    [​IMG]
    (photo by Dean Andrews)
    MP for Great Grimsby, Chantelle Rogers
    [​IMG]
    (photo by Hayley Squires)
    Elected Mayor of Bedford, Peter Reynolds
    [​IMG]
    (photo by Ben Aldridge-2015 casting)
    Two time London Mayoral Candidate, Jonathan Freeman
    [​IMG]
    (photo by Danny Dyer)
    MP for Castle Point, James Hilton (taken after his victory at the General Election)
    [​IMG]
    (photo by Jim Davidson)
     
    ajm8888 likes this.
  2. disputed Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2009
    Hi everyone,

    Just wanted you all to know that I’m going to take something of a sabbatical from the thread for a while. It’s a real struggle with work etc. to find the time to write as much as I’d like so think it’s better to leave things in the hands of the variety of other talented contributors we have.

    Not sure when I’ll be back but I’ll be keeping an eye on what’s going on in the meantime.

    Regards,

    Dis.
     
  3. lord caedus Very legal and very cool Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2008
    Location:
    Minnesota
    nbs.com

    Monday February 4th, 2019

    Montgomery confirmed as Senate makes progress on Cabinet nominations

    The first Senate work day of February proved to be a productive one, with five Cabinet nominees advanced out of committee and former senator George Montgomery, President Seaborn's nominee for Attorney General, was confirmed in a 70-28 vote. After last week, most of the proposed Seaborn cabinet (excepting, most notably, former First Lady Abby Bartlet, who is nominated to become the new Secretary of Health and Human Services) have appeared before the relevant Senate committees and the remaining nominations have mostly had their votes scheduled, according to Senate Minority Whip Sarah O'Brien (D-VT). "We hope that the solid nominees the president has proposed to fill his cabinet continue to receive a fair audience when they appear before [the relevant] committees." O'Brien said.

    The five nominees whose nominations have been sent to the full Senate for approval include both Cabinet and Cabinet-level positions. The Senate Agriculture Committee voted to approve the nomination of Michigan Agriculture Commission Chair Karen Kroft to become the new Secretary of Agriculture in an unanimous vote, while on the opposite end, San Jose Mayor Gael Cordova won a narrow 12-10 vote of approval to become the new Secretary of Labor from the HELP (Health, Education, Labor and Pensions) Committee with two Republicans voting "yes" (Dylan Garrison of Ohio and Ellie Wilkins of New Hampshire) and one Democrat (Bradley Denning of Oklahoma) absent. Between these two extremes, the Senate Finance Committee voted 19-9 to send Congresswoman Meredith Payne (D-MI)'s nomination for Secretary of Treasury and former Deputy Treasury Secretary Andrew Delaney's nomination to be Director of the Office of Management and the Budget (OMB) to the Senate, while the Select Intelligence Committee 17-2 to approve of Sarah Sanchez's nomination to be Director of National Intelligence.

    Chief of Staff Will Bailey called today's votes "a small but important victory". Bailey noted that aside from "confirming a very qualified and well-respected Attorney General", Cordova's nomination, one of the nominations expected to face the most resistance in the Republican-controlled Senate, had passed the committee stage with a few votes to spare. "We're confident that the whole Senate will similarly approve of Mayor Cordova's nomination and that we can work closely with the Senate leadership to assuage any concerns they may have about the remaining nominees the president has put forth."

    Of the 23 Cabinet or Cabinet-level positions in President Seaborn's cabinet, 13 have not been filled in the two weeks since the president took office. This is the slowest pace of Cabinet confirmations since George Washington, according to Professor Spencer Llewellyn of the University of Virginia, something Llewellyn attributes to increased partisanship, the Senate not being controlled by the president's party and that Seaborn has faced unique challenges to his legitimacy. "He isn't the first new president to have won a very close electionin the past 50 years alone, Richard Nixon, Jimmy Carter, D. Wire Newman and Matt Santos all came in on very narrow mandates," Llewellyn said in an interview. "But unlike all of the others, President Seaborn's victory wasn't confirmed until a week after the election and he is also the first president we've ever had since the Twelfth Amendment was ratified whose running mate was rejected by the Electoral College and the Senate. If ever a Senate could feel emboldened to push back against a new president's proposed Cabinet nominees, this would be the time."
     
    Marky Bunny likes this.
  4. Marky Bunny Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2007
    Location:
    England
    Ever wonder what happened to Cody Zucker, the 13 year old kid that challenged Zoby Ziegler at the White House over youth voting issues in 2006.
    [​IMG]
    Well lets find out...…
     
    Bad'Wolf likes this.
  5. Marky Bunny Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2007
    Location:
    England
    Cody Zucker

    Born October 30th 1992, in Springfield Oregon.

    He attended Page Elementary School, before attending Briggs Middle School, then Springfield High School. It was whilst at Briggs Middle School, that he first came to media attention as a member of the young political group “Future Leaders of Democracy” when in early 2006 he was invited to the White House. Zucker famously challenged then White House Communications Director Toby Ziegler frustrated at being “shuttled around the White House” without being treated with due respect. Zucker debated Ziegler who said he was “so impressed with the young man” he invited him into a Presidential Press Conference in which he asked President Bartlet a question about the Federal debt.

    After leaving Springfield High School, he then attended Pioneer Pacific College taking a course to become a Paralegal/Legal Assistant to become an Associate of Applied Science. In 2014, he sent up his own legal business, in the area of protecting children’s rights and freedom’s in Oregon. In 2015 he took time off time to work on the gubernatorial campaign of Republican Walter Collins, where he worked as an “Legal Advisor”.

    In 2016 he married his childhood sweetheart Elisha Cuthbert, and she gave birth to their first child, a daughter, Landry in 2017.

    Cody Zucker in 2017
    [​IMG]
    (photo by Seth Adkins-original show casting)
     
    Bad'Wolf likes this.
  6. Excelsior Time's arrow marches forward

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2015
    Elisha Cuthbert? That Elisha Cuthbert?
     
  7. lord caedus Very legal and very cool Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2008
    Location:
    Minnesota
    No, not that one. The RL actress of the same name is ten years older than Zucker and seven years older than his actor, which would mean they couldn't be "childhood sweethearts" unless we want to get into "police need to get involved" territory.
     
    ajm8888 likes this.
  8. lord caedus Very legal and very cool Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2008
    Location:
    Minnesota
    Did some infoboxes of some major foreign countries' most recent elections since I was bored:

    Russia
    russia15.png

    Cast
    Natalya Romanova: Cate Blanchett
    Viktor Bulganin: Vladimir Mashkov
    Leonid Zadornov: Aleksei Guskov (new casting)

    • The results of this election were never stated, but given that Russia has a two-round system and that Romanova did not need a second round to win, we can infer that she won at least 50%. I only put her a couple percentage points over since previous articles had Bulganin within 15-20% within a few weeks or so of the election.
    • I got the federal subject results by adjusting the OTL totals of the 2016 legislative elections. IOTL, no candidate who isn't Putin or Dmitry Medvedev has won a federal subject in a presidential election since 2000, so this looks like a comparatively good result for the non-ruling parties ITTL.

    France
    france16.png

    Cast
    Giselle Trenier: Josiane Balasko
    Charles Durand: Vincent Lindon (new casting)

    • I established that Trenier won re-election and that it was a very close-run thing.
    • Durand was previously established as the Socialist (PS) leader who was all but certain to be the party's candidate to challenge Trenier way back in 2012. I've just filled in his casting.
    • The department map was created using the results from the OTL 2017 presidential election but basically by giving all the OTL first-round votes from left-wing candidates (Hamon, Mélenchon, etc.) to Durand and the right-wing candidates (Fillon, Le Pen, etc.) to Trenier and splitting Macron's vote 5:1 between Durand and Trenier to match the final percentages in the infobox.
    • The "2021" is italicized because the next presidential election could theoretically be called early if Trenier resigns, is impeached, or dies.

    Canada
    canada17.png

    Cast
    Tim Gardner: Stefan Brogren
    Jacques Gamelin: Rémy Girard (new character)
    Stephen Addison: James Spader
    Jean-Marc Beaumont: Yvan Ponton (new character)
    Suzanne Lewis: Daryl Hannah (new character)

    • I backwards-engineered the ridings and popular vote percentages by messing around with the percentages using the UBC Voter Migration Matrix until I got approximately the result that was listed in the thread. The only oddity is that the sole MP for Yukon was the closest to a second Green seat, but I figured that with a weak NDP and Liberal performance, a black swan might make it up there and get the Greens a second elected MP.
    • Gardner and Addison were previously created and cast. Beaumont and Lewis are my own creations since no one established leaders for either of those parties when they were listed. Gamelin is similarly my own creation since the last named leader prior to him (Donald Graham) is implied to have resigned and the Liberal Party has for about a century alternated between English- and French-speaking leaders.
    • Kenst for some reason had all three parties (Conservative, Liberal and NDP) change leaders after this election, but frankly that's a bit unrealistic. Since Addison was cast way back in the thread and the NDP effectively matching the Liberals would be something the party would be ecstatic about (as it was until they actually came in second IOTL in 2011), I'm retconning that to say that Addison is still the leader.

      For the other two, Gardner obviously resigned and handed over the reigns to Leslie Van Merhalls. As an allusion to both OTL (Liberal leader Michael Ignatieff lost his seat in the 2011 thrashing) and as a wink to the previous canon of all three parties having their leaderships change, Gamelin loses his seat and resigns as Liberal leader.
     
    Last edited: Feb 6, 2019
  9. Marky Bunny Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2007
    Location:
    England
    No, the name was a nod to her, in the casting list of that episode, the girl with Cody is named as Elisha played by the actress Landry Allbright. I have them get married and have a daughter named Landry!!
     
    Last edited: Feb 6, 2019
  10. Marky Bunny Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2007
    Location:
    England
    This what Landy Allbright looks like now!!
    [​IMG]
     
  11. heatmaster Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2015
    How come no pictures of the Seaborn inauguration or the parade? After all You had an abundance of the Walken inaugurations 4 and 8 years ago respectively!
     
  12. Marky Bunny Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2007
    Location:
    England
    Because they would be the same pictures recycled, or pictures from Trump's 2 years ago....
     
  13. heatmaster Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2015
    But the Trump ones wouldn’t be recycled! I just have noticed that Seaborn has virtually disappeared from the storyline, when it was Santos or Walken, we had them in our faces nearly every other day! Sam has become the disappearing President! The only time we hear Seaborn’s name being mentioned is in connection to his cabinet nominee’s. Just noticed this since his inauguration, not a peep on a speech to Congress or a press conference.
     
  14. WestWingNut Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2018
    Location:
    Canada
    So Snake from Degrassi is the P.M of Canada and he's in the Conservative Party. I hope the Conservatives in this TL are nothing like the ones we deal with here.
     
    ajm8888 likes this.
  15. MountainDew17 The Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 8, 2015
    Location:
    Long Island, New York
    Yeah, its not like we have lives and jobs and families to take care of. How dare we not post a update every day; how inconsiderate of us.
     
    Arrowfan237 and Bad'Wolf like this.
  16. ajm8888 That Guy from Minnesota

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2010
    Might do a silly thing, nothing grand just one of those odd local stories that goes national in a news round up.

    By the way I may surprise you folks with a positive NK story, it is a maybe.
     
  17. lord caedus Very legal and very cool Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2008
    Location:
    Minnesota
    He was. He resigned and was replaced by Leslie Van Merhalls a little over a year ago.

    Because as Marky points out, the only decent ones would be recycled (in the case of ones from Obama). The most recent OTL pictures we could use (Trump's inauguration) would need to be photoshopped to include more people (since Seaborn undoubtedly would have more people at his inauguration than Trump purely by nature of the personalities and appeal) and reduce the amount of red hats in the crowds to a reasonable level. Which, to head off any "polite suggestions" that we should have done it anyways, photoshopping things like that would take quite a bit of time that would be better spent doing literally anything else.

    Or that we just got done with a presidential election that went into January and just had one of the lead writers take a sabbatical.
     
    Bad'Wolf and ajm8888 like this.
  18. ajm8888 That Guy from Minnesota

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2010
    Yeah, as a guy who has caused irritation for the runners of this thread I know that if I was worried about something screwing up the world I would PM them, well Marky at least. But let me be clear I tried not to be rude. I like my silly stuff, it adds humor that this world needs.

    I admit I got obsessed with this stuff and I got better after taking a long break. But I was never intentionally rude to anyone.

    By the way I hope Disputed gets better after his sabbatical.
     
  19. heatmaster Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 18, 2015
    Well it was a thought! But good work nonetheless! Just a few colleagues from the university who have looked at your thread and made comments to me! Bunch of liberals! :) :) I know if Shallick had been inaugurated instead, they wouldn’t have bothered with any comments
     
  20. lord caedus Very legal and very cool Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2008
    Location:
    Minnesota
    [​IMG]

    Payne, Cordova Confirmed As Administration Gears Up For Bartlet, Frost Hearings

    Washington, D.C. —
    The United States Senate approved two new members of President Sam Seaborn's cabinet Wednesday afternoon, approving of the nomination of Representative Meredith Payne (D-MI) to the position of Secretary of the Treasury, and San Jose mayor Gael Cordova to the position of Secretary of Labor ahead of what are assumed to be the most contentious hearings for the president's nominees to date, namely the nominations of former First Lady Abby Bartlet to the position of Secretary of Health and Human Services and businesswoman Sharon Frost to the position of Secretary of Commerce. Payne, who will make history as the first African-American Treasury secretary and only the second woman to hold the position, was approved of in a 80-20 vote, while Cordova, who will be the first Hispanic Labor secretary, won a slim 52-48 vote with four Republicans (Carlos Cabrera of Colorado, Dylan Garrison of Ohio, Jasper Irving of Illinois and Ellie Wilkins of New Hampshire) breaking ranks to vote with Democrats after a full-court press by the administration.

    Behind the scenes, the administration is preparing for the hearings of and Frost, both scheduled for Friday afternoon. The two hearings are expected to be contentious for different reasons. In Bartlet's case, Senate Republicans have already voiced plenty of hostility to the former First Lady taking a Cabinet position, pointing to her involvement in covering up her late husband's multiple sclerosis during both his first election and for two years into his presidency. "While we do not want to re-litigate scandals of the Bartlet administration, Dr. Bartlet's conduct and violations of AMA [American Medical Association] rules during her husband's presidency are cause for serious concern for someone that could potentially be in charge of very important government agency," Senate Majority Leader Cody Riley (R-AL) said in an interview, saying he did not expect that the HELP (Health, Education, Labor and Pensions) Committee that the former First Lady will appear in front of would give her a "free pass".

    For Frost, the sparks from a fierce confirmation fight come from two places. First, her selection has widely been seen as having been pushed for by Seaborn's running mate, Franklin Hollis, whose rejection by a large contingent of Democratic electors and then the Senate has led many to list him as one of the worst vice presidential nominees in American history. Second, paperwork detailing her vast financial portfolio took much longer than both administration and Senate officials had expected. This latter aspect has led to annoyance and concern from Commerce, Science and Transportation (CST) Chair Jeff Heston (R-UT). "We need to make sure the person in charge of the department that will be undertaking the Census in less than one year has his or her ducks in a row," Heston said. "That's not the impression I've gathered from Ms. Frost's delays in getting her financial disclosure work to us, but I'm open to hearing her explanations for the delay."

    --------------------------------------------
    [​IMG]

    Pope Victor touches down in Rwanda in final trip as Pope

    Pope Victor IV has landed in the Rwandan capital of Kigali for his final trip as head of the Roman Catholic Church. The 93 year-old pontiff was greeted by Rwandan President James Banyingana, who feted him as "our nation's spiritual father" and "the greatest gift of Rwanda to the people of the world". Victor, who was born Jean-Luc Kabuga, was born and raised in Rwanda and visited the country several times after his elevation to the papacy in 1995. The pontiff, who did not take questions in a brief appearance with Banyingama, said that he had been blessed to be able to return to his homeland one last time. "It's by God's grace that he has allowed me to make a final visit to my birthplace and its people," the pontiff said. "Many of God's children, much less those of my age, do not have such an opportunity and it is for this that I give him thanks."

    The pope will reportedly spend two weeks in Rwanda, with plans to visit his family's old home and the city of Kabgayi, where he was bishop from 1967 to 1976. His papacy will end on February 28, having announced his resignation in early January as a result of his increasing infirmity. Vatican spokesmen said that after he returns to the Vatican, the pope will finalize changes to the Apostolic Constitution that will allow the College of Cardinals to convene the day after his papacy ends to begin electing his successor. Currently, Vatican Secretary of State Francisco Petrucci is considered to be the strongest contender to succeed him, but sources in the Vatican say a whisper campaign for Cardinal Joseph Wambui, the Prefect for the Congregation for the Evangelization of Peoples, has been initiated by the pope's strongest supporters who see Wambui as the candidate most likely to continue Victor's legacy.

    --------------------------------------------​

    [​IMG]

    President Seaborn's Call to Patriots Goes Off-Script

    WASHINGTON President Sam Seaborn's call to the Super Bowl LII champion New England Patriots went a bit off script in a way that left some New England fans fuming and the White House quickly spinning the president's words as a "failed attempt at a joke". The traditional invitation to the White House to the Super Bowl champs went to the Patriots front office Wednesday, with the president congratulating Patriots coach Bill Belichick and quarterback Tom Brady on their sixth Super Bowl victory, tying the Pittsburgh Steelers for the all-time record, and inviting them to appear at the White House. Seaborn, who was the senator from California when he was elected to the presidency, reportedly said that he "wished it was the other guys [the Los Angeles Rams]" who he would be inviting, intending the remark to be a joke, but both Brady and Belichick seemed offended by the comment and took the president's observation that the game, which set the record for the lowest-scoring Super Bowl with both teams combining for only 16 points, "was a little less entertaining" than previous Super Bowls as an insult. The news leaked quickly to social media, which accused Seaborn of disrespect to the team and both men, with Brady saying that he felt "unnecessary hostility" from the new president in his call and was "a little insulted".

    White House Press Secretary Cassie Tatum responded to the events saying it was a miscommunication. "The President did not intend to offend anyone in the Patriots organization, nor imply that they did not deserve to visit the White House as Super Bowl champions." Tatum said in a statement. New England fans, however, did not initially buy it and a video of an angry Patriots fan throwing his Seaborn/Hollis lawn sign in the garbage went viral. The Secret Service reportedly opened an investigation into a man in Massachusetts who posted that the president "shouldn't come [to Boston] after the shit he said about Brady if he wants to finish his term" on his Facebook page.

    Finally, late Wednesday night, the commander-in-chief cleared the air by making a second call to both Brady and Belichick and apologizing. "I think I came off a bit harsher than I meant to in my last call," Seaborn says in a video the White House posted on its website. "As a proud Californian, I'm still a little sore about the results. But as a football fan, I'm thrilled to welcome you two and your team to the White House for a historic sixth time." For their part, Brady and Belichick accepted the president's apology, saying that they were thrilled to go to the White House again.

    --------------------------------------------​

    [​IMG]

    President Seaborn to sign first major executive orders on LGBT rights, infrastructure

    Washington, D.C. — President Sam Seaborn will sign the first major executive orders of his presidency on Thursday afternoon. The White House released a statement that the president will sign Executive Orders 13858 and 13859 at 11 AM Eastern Standard Time in the Oval Office. Order 13858 will extend anti-discrimination protection for both civilian employees and contractors of the federal government to include both gender identity and sexual orientation, while Order 13859 will outline a process for the Department of Transportation to fast-track the construction of infrastructure projects.

    Order 13858 signals a clear break with the Walken administration's controversial policies on LGBT rights, most famously defying the Supreme Court's ruling of the unconstitutionality of the military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy for a few years until quietly giving in in 2015. Order 13859, on the other hand, is expected to be the first piece of groundwork in an ambitious infrastructure policy that Seaborn articulated during the presidential campaign. The order's provisions reveal the prioritization of repairing damaged or aged infrastructure, with policy experts saying that an infrastructure bill that will outline the policy specifics for the project and scope of funding new infrastructure projects will be introduced in Congress within the next few months.
     
    Excelsior, Bad'Wolf and Marky Bunny like this.