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Plagiarism is a BAD THING. It is also shockingly easy to avoid. All you need to do is give proper credit.

Since you still haven't said if the Map is yours, after saying the Maps are not, it is pretty clear that you snagged the whole thing.

Kicked for a week,

This is a one bite offense. You just had yours.
 
Plagiarism is a BAD THING. It is also shockingly easy to avoid. All you need to do is give proper credit.

Since you still haven't said if the Map is yours, after saying the Maps are not, it is pretty clear that you snagged the whole thing.

Kicked for a week,

This is a one bite offense. You just had yours.
I think that was a little unnecessary
However, given my past experiences with you, I guess you can be expected to do the unnecessary
 

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I think that was a little unnecessary
However, given my past experiences with you, I guess you can be expected to do the unnecessary
If you mean enforce standing Board policy as consistently as I can, you are 100% correct.

I would, of course, not call it unnecessary in any way.
 
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Europe of the Stettin-TL with former Iron Curtain in yellow.
As you can see, in this TL the borders between Austria and the Czech Republic are different, because after WWI German Austria and Czechoslovakia agreed to draw the borders approximately along the linguistic boundary in both southern Bohemia and southern Moravia. Furthermore German Austria could keep the German-speaking areas in OTL Slovenia, including Marburg an der Drau (slov. Maribor). But in exchange Austria had to concede Felsőőrvidék/Burgenland to Hungary and Austria had to stay completely neutral. In the 60s, Italy got a very left-wing government, which decided to hold a plebiscite in South Tyrol about its future belonging to either Italy or Austria. More than 90% voted for Austria. So at the end of the 60s, South Tyrol got officially ceded by Austria. Since that event, the Italians never trusted left-winged parties anymore.
After WWI, the treaty of Trianon was a bit fairer to Hungary. Hungary could not only keep Felsőőrvidék, but also the Hungarian majority-Felvidék (OTL southern Slovakia), the border with Roumania got drawn a little more eastern, so that Nagyvárad (Oradea) stayed within the Hungarian borders, as well as the northern third of Vajdaság (Voivodina) including Szabadka and Zombor and the Muravidék with Muraszombat.
The borders of Turkey have also been drawn differently after the first world war - especially it could keep less of eastern Thracia.
After WWII, Germany had to cede the counties (Landkreise) of Glatz and Halberschwerdt, as well as a few villages south of Leobschütz (Głubczyce) and Katscher (Kietrz) to Czechoslovakia. Also after WWII, the Italian city of Triest has been given to Yugoslavia.
Within the Soviet Union, the borders between the SSRs (at least in Europe) have been drawn differently, more or less based on more historical borders, but "amended". The Moldavian SSR has an actual coast here. Crimea has also never been given to the Ukrainian SSR. A Kertch brigde was build in the late 70s already.
The Nagorno-Karabakh conflinct went off very differently, making Azerbaijan the "bad guys" here, who began all the thing. Armenia is much more victorious than in OTL - also getting (secret) little help from both Greece and Iran. Armenia fully annexed Nagorno-Karabakh and the Link in 1994. Nakhichevan became something like an Armenian puppet state. Since Armenia is closely allied with Russia, Azerbaijan officially gave up its claims in 2009. Turkey never intervened in the conflict and also never officially allied with Azerbaijan, because it feared a war with Russia as a result.
Cyprus never got invaded by Turkey after the Brits left the Island.
Belarus envolved to a typical former-east bloc-republic like Poland, Hungary, Czech Rep., Lithuania, etc. - Lukanshenko didn't become president in 1994 (nor later). Belarus joined EU in 2008, but other than its western neighbours, Belarus didn't join NATO.
Ukraine envolved very similar to OTL until 2013, but with failed Euromaidan. Since then, the country driftet into a (isulated) dictatorship, similar to OTL Belarus. But here, Yanukovych('s Ukraine) is not backed by Russia. At least not very much.
After its independence, Moldavia very soon (in 1992) became a socialist dictatorship by coup. In 2004 - after massive countrywide protests - elections were hold and Moldavia became a western-orientated democracy. The Russian-speaking Transnistria became an autonomous area within Moldavia. The cyrillic alphabet stayed official and a reunion with Romania was rejected.
In late 2004, Vladimir Putin, Dmitry Medvedev and other politicans of the Russian government died after an airplane crash in Slovakia. Since then, Russia followed a policy, resulting in a more "western-friendly" way (much more western-friendly than in OTL), but still being "its own thing". The relations between the US/NATO states and Russia are much more normal. Also there was never a Russo-Georgian war here. Also Russia never attacked Ukraine in this TL.
There was never an islamic revolution in Iran. The country is still a shahdom. There were some big reforms during the 80s and today is a wondeful example of a western-style state in the middle east. Also equal opportunities for women are a surprisingly big thing here.
Since the Arab Spring had no success in this TL (only Tunisia made some lukewarm smaller reforms) and especially there were never (or not that massive) civil wars in Syria and Lybia, the 2015-refugee desaster did not happen in these proportions like in OTL. If it will happen, it will have been much much milder.
Also - as in all my TLs - there was never a Covid 19 going to be happen.
This is also part of this TL.
Rather blursed.
 
Y'all thing the Mods read all 292 pages of thread when a report is made?

There is more than one reason that members are REQUIRED to give credit when making a post.

If you mean enforce standing Board policy as consistently as I can, you are 100% correct.

I would, of course, not call it unnecessary in any way.
idk bro it was like 1.5 pages about this max, if you love modding so much, put some effort in before handing out missives from on high to some completely harmless poster who obviously got the wrong end of the stick
 
Poles in China

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Map of the Hainan Polish Autonomous Prefecture

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Location of Hainan in China (thanks to Wikipedia for the base map)

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Unofficial flag of Hainan A.P. ("Flaga Cińska")

In the later days of the Russian Revolution, many Poles who had been exiled to Kazakhstan and the Russian Far East fought for freedom and were eventually invited by the warlords of Sinkiang. In exchange for free land, tax exemption, and promises of autonomy, Polish soldiers moved to Western China and helped to fight for control of the Qinghai region. After their fight was over, they settled in the area known as Hainan ("South of the Sea", referring to Lake Qinghai, "Qing Sea"). As the Polish population grew, they clashed with the local Tibetans, leaving the area mostly Polish and Han Chinese.

After the Chinese Civil War concluded, the CCP promised to respect the rights of Poles in the area, known as "Bozang" ("Bo People" from "Bolan" meaning "Poland"), and established the Hainan Polish Autonomous Prefecture (Polish: Polska Prefektura Autonomiczna Hajnan). Though the USSR proposed shipping the Bozang back to Poland to coincide with the establishment of Poland as a Communist state, China refused due to the strategic nature of an anti-Tibetan group in Qinghai. Since the massive growth of Han populations in Western China however, the respect for Bozang culture has deteriorated. Those seeking full autonomy within the PRC often use the "autonomist flag" which is a Chinese flag with an added white band on the bottom (usually 1/4 or 1/3 of the height). Independence groups, seeking to create a "Rzeczpospolita Cińska" (Republic of Ciń/Qing) usually use the Polish flag.

Bozang, who call themselves Cińskie (from the Bozang name for Qinghai), continue to speak Polish, though this is due mainly to the isolation of the community. Their dialect, largely a continuation of Polish spoken in the 19th Century, lacks the many English loanwords of modern Polish. In the case of modern technology or ideas, Chinese loanwords have filled in the gap (i.e. cellphone = "szołdzi" from Chinese "shouji" lit "hand machine", instead of Polish "komórka"). Bozang also has picked up the close rounded vowel /y/ from Chinese as the new letter Ų/ų, though it is only used in loan words and native Chinese names (ie "Ųhłań" from "Yuhuang ").
 
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Poles in China

eGoC05z.png

Map of the Hainan Polish Autonomous Prefecture

LzlJnl5.png

Location of Hainan in China (thanks to Wikipedia for the base map)

8MSxDUT.png

Unofficial flag of Hainan A.P. ("Cińska")

In the later days of the Russian Revolution, many Poles who had been exiled to Kazakhstan and the Russian Far East fought for freedom and were eventually invited by the warlords of Sinkiang. In exchange for free land, tax exemption, and promises of autonomy, Polish soldiers moved to Western China and helped to fight for control of the Qinghai region. After their fight was over, they settled in the area known as Hainan ("South of the Sea", referring to Lake Qinghai, "Qing Sea"). As the Polish population grew, they clashed with the local Tibetans, leaving the area mostly Polish and Han Chinese.

After the Chinese Civil War concluded, the CCP promised to respect the rights of Poles in the area, known as "Bozang" ("Bo People" from "Bolan" meaning "Poland"), and established the Hainan Polish Autonomous Prefecture (Polish: Polska Prefektura Autonomiczna Hajnan). Though the USSR proposed shipping the Bozang back to Poland to coincide with the establishment of Poland as a Communist state, China refused due to the strategic nature of an anti-Tibetan group in Qinghai. Since the massive growth of Han populations in Western China however, the respect for Bozang culture has deteriorated. Those seeking full autonomy within the PRC often use the "autonomist flag" which is a Chinese flag with an added white band on the bottom (usually 1/4 or 1/3 of the height). Independence groups, seeking to create a "Rzeczpospolita Cińska" (Republic of Ciń/Qing) usually use the Polish flag.

Bozang, who call themselves Cińskie (from the Bozang name for Qinghai), continue to speak Polish, though this is due mainly to the isolation of the community. Their dialect, largely a continuation of Polish spoken in the 19th Century, lacks the many English loanwords of modern Polish. In the case of modern technology or ideas, Chinese loanwords have filled in the gap (i.e. cellphone = "szołdzi" from Chinese "shouji" lit "hand machine", instead of Polish "komórka"). Bozang also has picked up the close rounded vowel /y/ from Chinese as the new letter Ų/ų, though it is only used in loan words and some place names with native Chinese names (ie "Ųhłań" from "Yuhuang ").
Delightfully random.
 
Poles in China

eGoC05z.png

Map of the Hainan Polish Autonomous Prefecture

LzlJnl5.png

Location of Hainan in China (thanks to Wikipedia for the base map)

8MSxDUT.png

Unofficial flag of Hainan A.P. ("Flaga Cińska")

In the later days of the Russian Revolution, many Poles who had been exiled to Kazakhstan and the Russian Far East fought for freedom and were eventually invited by the warlords of Sinkiang. In exchange for free land, tax exemption, and promises of autonomy, Polish soldiers moved to Western China and helped to fight for control of the Qinghai region. After their fight was over, they settled in the area known as Hainan ("South of the Sea", referring to Lake Qinghai, "Qing Sea"). As the Polish population grew, they clashed with the local Tibetans, leaving the area mostly Polish and Han Chinese.

After the Chinese Civil War concluded, the CCP promised to respect the rights of Poles in the area, known as "Bozang" ("Bo People" from "Bolan" meaning "Poland"), and established the Hainan Polish Autonomous Prefecture (Polish: Polska Prefektura Autonomiczna Hajnan). Though the USSR proposed shipping the Bozang back to Poland to coincide with the establishment of Poland as a Communist state, China refused due to the strategic nature of an anti-Tibetan group in Qinghai. Since the massive growth of Han populations in Western China however, the respect for Bozang culture has deteriorated. Those seeking full autonomy within the PRC often use the "autonomist flag" which is a Chinese flag with an added white band on the bottom (usually 1/4 or 1/3 of the height). Independence groups, seeking to create a "Rzeczpospolita Cińska" (Republic of Ciń/Qing) usually use the Polish flag.

Bozang, who call themselves Cińskie (from the Bozang name for Qinghai), continue to speak Polish, though this is due mainly to the isolation of the community. Their dialect, largely a continuation of Polish spoken in the 19th Century, lacks the many English loanwords of modern Polish. In the case of modern technology or ideas, Chinese loanwords have filled in the gap (i.e. cellphone = "szołdzi" from Chinese "shouji" lit "hand machine", instead of Polish "komórka"). Bozang also has picked up the close rounded vowel /y/ from Chinese as the new letter Ų/ų, though it is only used in loan words and native Chinese names (ie "Ųhłań" from "Yuhuang ").
I really like this
 
Poles in China

eGoC05z.png

Map of the Hainan Polish Autonomous Prefecture

LzlJnl5.png

Location of Hainan in China (thanks to Wikipedia for the base map)

8MSxDUT.png

Unofficial flag of Hainan A.P. ("Flaga Cińska")

In the later days of the Russian Revolution, many Poles who had been exiled to Kazakhstan and the Russian Far East fought for freedom and were eventually invited by the warlords of Sinkiang. In exchange for free land, tax exemption, and promises of autonomy, Polish soldiers moved to Western China and helped to fight for control of the Qinghai region. After their fight was over, they settled in the area known as Hainan ("South of the Sea", referring to Lake Qinghai, "Qing Sea"). As the Polish population grew, they clashed with the local Tibetans, leaving the area mostly Polish and Han Chinese.

After the Chinese Civil War concluded, the CCP promised to respect the rights of Poles in the area, known as "Bozang" ("Bo People" from "Bolan" meaning "Poland"), and established the Hainan Polish Autonomous Prefecture (Polish: Polska Prefektura Autonomiczna Hajnan). Though the USSR proposed shipping the Bozang back to Poland to coincide with the establishment of Poland as a Communist state, China refused due to the strategic nature of an anti-Tibetan group in Qinghai. Since the massive growth of Han populations in Western China however, the respect for Bozang culture has deteriorated. Those seeking full autonomy within the PRC often use the "autonomist flag" which is a Chinese flag with an added white band on the bottom (usually 1/4 or 1/3 of the height). Independence groups, seeking to create a "Rzeczpospolita Cińska" (Republic of Ciń/Qing) usually use the Polish flag.

Bozang, who call themselves Cińskie (from the Bozang name for Qinghai), continue to speak Polish, though this is due mainly to the isolation of the community. Their dialect, largely a continuation of Polish spoken in the 19th Century, lacks the many English loanwords of modern Polish. In the case of modern technology or ideas, Chinese loanwords have filled in the gap (i.e. cellphone = "szołdzi" from Chinese "shouji" lit "hand machine", instead of Polish "komórka"). Bozang also has picked up the close rounded vowel /y/ from Chinese as the new letter Ų/ų, though it is only used in loan words and native Chinese names (ie "Ųhłań" from "Yuhuang ").
Russians in Harbin? Please. Let's talk Poles in Haibei.
 
Poles in China

eGoC05z.png

Map of the Hainan Polish Autonomous Prefecture

LzlJnl5.png

Location of Hainan in China (thanks to Wikipedia for the base map)

8MSxDUT.png

Unofficial flag of Hainan A.P. ("Flaga Cińska")

In the later days of the Russian Revolution, many Poles who had been exiled to Kazakhstan and the Russian Far East fought for freedom and were eventually invited by the warlords of Sinkiang. In exchange for free land, tax exemption, and promises of autonomy, Polish soldiers moved to Western China and helped to fight for control of the Qinghai region. After their fight was over, they settled in the area known as Hainan ("South of the Sea", referring to Lake Qinghai, "Qing Sea"). As the Polish population grew, they clashed with the local Tibetans, leaving the area mostly Polish and Han Chinese.

After the Chinese Civil War concluded, the CCP promised to respect the rights of Poles in the area, known as "Bozang" ("Bo People" from "Bolan" meaning "Poland"), and established the Hainan Polish Autonomous Prefecture (Polish: Polska Prefektura Autonomiczna Hajnan). Though the USSR proposed shipping the Bozang back to Poland to coincide with the establishment of Poland as a Communist state, China refused due to the strategic nature of an anti-Tibetan group in Qinghai. Since the massive growth of Han populations in Western China however, the respect for Bozang culture has deteriorated. Those seeking full autonomy within the PRC often use the "autonomist flag" which is a Chinese flag with an added white band on the bottom (usually 1/4 or 1/3 of the height). Independence groups, seeking to create a "Rzeczpospolita Cińska" (Republic of Ciń/Qing) usually use the Polish flag.

Bozang, who call themselves Cińskie (from the Bozang name for Qinghai), continue to speak Polish, though this is due mainly to the isolation of the community. Their dialect, largely a continuation of Polish spoken in the 19th Century, lacks the many English loanwords of modern Polish. In the case of modern technology or ideas, Chinese loanwords have filled in the gap (i.e. cellphone = "szołdzi" from Chinese "shouji" lit "hand machine", instead of Polish "komórka"). Bozang also has picked up the close rounded vowel /y/ from Chinese as the new letter Ų/ų, though it is only used in loan words and native Chinese names (ie "Ųhłań" from "Yuhuang ").
Uhhh... I know the OTL one is also called Hainan, but maybe they should have given it a different name from the southern Chinese island.
 
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