Are you endorsing this officially?
Hey this TL has it's own TvTropes Page, I would classify that as only semi-obscure.😂Poor Beeb, they're having to resort to pilfering obscure hack timelines!
When you Wish Upon a Frog (Book II of the Jim Henson at Disney saga)
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Just saying, we could have this in the TL too but as two Doctors...
It sucks that RDJ is still facing his drug addiction ITTL despite the success of Superman but maybe he could recover much earlier than OTL as a result of his previous successes like the aforementioned film.
Although Charlie Sheen is dead, perhaps Charlotte Lewis could live a long life despite her condition thanks to the new drugs. Since her career has declined a bit, it would make sense for her to pivot herself as an HIV/AIDS activist, which would help a lot in staving off the stigma associated with the condition.
Pearson is up to no good. What kind of shenanigans are they capable of as a company for Disney? They've already proven themselves to be a boon for Walt Disney Entertainment, but I have a feeling that they could easily become one of their worst enemies. Truly a wildcard in the industry, and I can't wait to see how they will develop ITTL.
It sucks that RDJ is still facing his drug addiction ITTL despite the success of Superman but maybe he could recover much earlier than OTL as a result of his previous successes like the aforementioned film.
Although Charlie Sheen is dead, perhaps Charlotte Lewis could live a long life despite her condition thanks to the new drugs. Since her career has declined a bit, it would make sense for her to pivot herself as an HIV/AIDS activist, which would help a lot in staving off the stigma associated with the condition.
Pearson is up to no good. What kind of shenanigans are they capable of as a company for Disney? They've already proven themselves to be a boon for Walt Disney Entertainment, but I have a feeling that they could easily become one of their worst enemies. Truly a wildcard in the industry, and I can't wait to see how they will develop ITTL.
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Wait it does? I didn't know that it had a TV Tropes page.
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Seriously, he's even dressed like Geekhis' Doctor!Just saying, we could have this in the TL too but as two Doctors...
That's actually how I found this forum. Funny isn't it?
I like how everyone has made a complete 180 when it comes to the NPH Doctor now, I remember scrolling through the old thread and everyone was do pissed at this decision that Geekhis nearly cancelled the show and now see how things have changed!Seriously, he's even dressed like Geekhis' Doctor!
Also quick someone make mockup of the young 8th Doctor!
BREAKING NEWS
Explosion in Downtown Washington
Hundreds believed dead or wounded in assumed Terrorist Attack
FBI Headquarters badly damaged; FBI puts out search for two men
“Sword of Liberty” group claims responsibility
Washington Post, April 19th, 1995
Washington, DC – a massive explosion rocked downtown DC this morning in what the FBI believes to be a domestic terror attack. The explosion, which emanated from a tractor-trailer left idling on Pennsylvania Avenue between the J. Edgar Hoover FBI Building and the Old Post Office, shattered windows in both the White House and the Capitol and caused massive damage to the buildings around it. Security cameras recorded two men, white, one of them the driver of the truck, fleeing the scene on a motorcycle that had previously been in front of the truck.
Similarities between the attack and fictional events described in the White Supremacist novel The Turner Diaries, which sees the destruction of FBI Headquarters in a similar attack as a “call to arms” for white Americans, have been noted. A group calling itself The Sword of Liberty, believed to be a violent offshoot of the white supremacist The Covenant, the Sword, and the Arm of the Lord organization, has claimed credit for the attack, calling it “the first shot in the Second American Revolution, fired on this 220th anniversary of the Shot Heard ‘Round the World at Lexington. The FBI’s flagrant murder of Christian children in Waco has been avenged, but our mission to retake America from Godless Communists, [African Americans], Sodomites, and stooges of the Rothschilds has only just begun.” While the FBI has been unable to verify the group’s claims, they have released the pictures of the two suspects and are offering a $100,000 reward.
While official figures are not yet in, hundreds are believed dead, including many federal agents[1], making the attack the deadliest terror attack in US history. FBI and local casualties may have been larger had FBI security teams not noticed that something was awry and ordered an evacuation. President Gore has called the attack “an act of evil and cowardice” and vowed to hold those responsible accountable “with the full authority of the law.”
Similarly, FBI Director…Cont’d on A2.
Gunman Attacks Local Synagogue
The Arizona Republic Extra, May 12th, 1995
Phoenix – An armed man with an automatic rifle opened fire on worshipers at the Bel El Congregation synagogue this morning during Friday services, killing 14 and injuring 24, including children and an elderly holocaust survivor. The suspected shooter, a white male who was killed by Phoenix police, has not been identified by the authorities. Witnesses describe the man as uttering antisemitic slurs as he entered the congregation and opened fire. It is unknown at this time if the shooter was in any way connected to the Sword of Liberty terrorist cell that claimed responsibility for April’s DC bombing[2]. More will be reported as facts are known.
Bomb Kills 5 in Mt. Helm Baptist Church Attack
The Jackson Clarion-Ledger, June 7th, 1995
Jackson – The historic Mt. Helm Baptist Church, a historically African American church founded in 1835 to provide services for enslaved peoples, was badly damaged by a package bomb last night, killing five staff members and congregants and injuring 7 others there for Bible study. Comparisons to the 1963 bombing of the 16th Street Baptist Church in Birmingham, Alabama, are already being made. The Sword of Liberty has claimed responsibility for the attack, though claims to have not intended to cause fatalities. The FBI is investigating the incident as a domestic terrorist attack. Cont’d on A2.
FBI Organizational Threat Assessment: The Sword of Liberty and Other Militant White Nationalist Organizations
October 1995 [Redacted 2007 FOIA Release]
Abstract
Logo similar to this, but lacks the rainbow for obvious reasons
The Sword of Liberty organization (SoL), a militant offshoot of The Covenant, the Sword, and the Arm of the Lord organization, entered onto the scene in April of 1995 with the vehicle-borne explosive device attack upon the J. Edgar Hoover building in Washington DC. Since then, they have committed or inspired additional bombings and bombing attempts, shootings, assassinations, kidnappings, and other crimes. Their appearance and the severity and suddenness of these attacks shocked most Americans, who never fully expected a domestic assault of that scale in the contiguous United States. Contrary to this public assumption, the steady rise of right-wing militancy, commonly overlapping with White Nationalist organizations such as the Aryan Brotherhood and Ku Klux Klan and various Christian Nationalist organizations, and increasingly organized through online communications, has been a growing factor in US fringe politics since the end of Segregation, with origins going back to the reconstruction era.
The following report details the growth and diversification of Militant White Nationalist Organizations (MWNO) from the early days of post-Confederate “Lost Cause” ideology and the rise of the KKK, through segregation and the Lynching epidemic and violent KKK opposition to immigration and desegregation in the early 20th Century, to the rise of Fascist-inspired fringe politics in the midcentury, to the rise of antigovernmental “survivalist” culture in the late 20th Century. It identifies the historical, cultural, and political links between MWNOs and various right wing and populist political, cultural, and religious movements in the US and various sympathetic criminal enterprises such as Neo-Nazi prison gangs and white “1-percenter” motorcycle gangs. It explores how recent political trends have exacerbated an existing sense of isolation and disillusionment within the core MWNO constituencies, such as the rise of the Gore administration in 1992, the “backstabbing” of Vice President Quayle by the Bush reelection team in the same year, the “child killing” FBI raid[3] on the Branch Davidian compound in Waco, Texas, the failed promise of the 1994 “Republican Revolution”, and the mixture of hope and disappointment that came with the rise of the Reform Party[4].
This report explores the demographics and socio-political overlaps between MWNOs and surrounding communities. While likely only representing a few hundred to thousand people (SoL has an estimated two dozen core members and three dozen ancillary accomplices), MWNOs derive some support and sympathies or at least a sense of “understanding” or shared core beliefs with larger communities, and even some conservative populist commentators and politicians, such as {REDACTED}. “Supportive” communities may number in the tens-of-thousands to hundreds-of-thousands and “sympathetic” communities potentially number in the millions. Online communities, such as the Neo-Nazi organizations that communicate through the Stormfront website and similar portals, have allowed for an unprecedented ability to share opinions, share information and intelligence, discuss tactics, and even plan or coordinate attacks (section 4 describes FBI monitoring and surveillance methodology).
This report further explores the threat vectors as well as mitigating factors for MWNO attacks, such as the spread of online bomb-making instructions and the availability of weapons both legal and illegal. The recent flooding of the international market by cheap USR-made firearms and munitions offers a particular concern[5]. Pertinent weapons vectors include {REDACTED}.
Finally, this report offers strategies and tactics for the continued monitoring, surveillance, and disruption of MWNO cells. It explores their primary and secondary targets and their most likely next attacks. Potential targets are identified from government buildings to minority racial and religious communities to politicians to judges to private organizations and individuals (even Disney parks and executives), all of which have been identified in online “target lists” gathered via {REDACTED}. Disrupting and investigating these cells and preventing future activities will be daunting given the decentralized nature of the cells and the large community of supporters to call upon to help conceal or obfuscate their actions and identities.
At this time, the overall threat assessments of MWNOs such as SoL is considered HIGH and the priority for disruption of these organizations, given their mobility, unpredictability, and danger, is likewise considered HIGH.
Additional reports will be produced as additional information comes in.
[1] The final official tally will be 48 dead, 164 wounded (83 of them seriously), and four missing, assumed dead, including 13 FBI employee fatalities and 47 FBI non-fatal casualties, most of them simple desk workers and maintenance/cleaning/support staff rather than agents. The rather solid stone walls of the Old Post Office building will help limit civilian casualties in that structure, which at the time was a public building with shops and a food court (it has since become the Trump International Hotel Washington, D.C., and is now the Waldorf Astoria). Special Agent Debra Evans of the Alphy’s bust and the Hansen flip will suffer minor injuries, including scaring, with a small but noticeable scar on her left cheek.
[2] The Sword of Liberty will not claim responsibility, but will approve of the attack, calling its perpetrator, who was armed with a fully automatic AK-47 and had a semiautomatic AR-15 in the car, a “patriot and a martyr.”
[3] Without Ruby Ridge, fewer people on the edge of radicalization will become radicalized in this timeline, while conversely the fact that the FBI had little choice at Waco but to shoot armed teenagers during the raid lends itself to the “murder of Christian children” narrative circling far-right message boards and underground papers. This smaller, more insular revolutionary right-wing community, particularly with continuing disappointment on the political front (Newt Gingrich served to some degree as a “social safety release valve” for anger on the right, who at least felt like they were still a part of the system), is leading these smaller communities to feel increasingly isolated and desperate. These are the same communities that brought about the Oklahoma City bombing in our timeline (while the full extent of McVey’s network of accomplices remains murky, his supporters and sympathizers were numerous; it was not, as many on the right like to proclaim, a “Lone Wolf Attack”). And violent, militant White Nationalism has been a big part of US politics for a long time. I’ve personally known, served with, and even been close friends with people who supported McVey’s actions including some who wrote letters of support to McVey in the late 1990s, fully convinced that he was a patriotic patsy in a Clinton-run false flag operation intended to overthrow democracy and install a Socialist Dictatorship; I am not exaggerating or joking on that front. Nobody should have been surprised at the current “political trends” in the US.
[4] Many initially derived hope from Pat Buchannan’s fiery speech at the Reform Party convention and were later disappointed to see a swath of largely centrist or regionalist politicians rather than the militant nativism that they’d expected. “I went in expecting Pat and got Perot!” one angrily said. “Here’s to the new boss, same as the old boss!”
[5] Thanks, Yuri.
Hundreds believed dead or wounded in assumed Terrorist Attack
FBI Headquarters badly damaged; FBI puts out search for two men
“Sword of Liberty” group claims responsibility
Washington Post, April 19th, 1995
Washington, DC – a massive explosion rocked downtown DC this morning in what the FBI believes to be a domestic terror attack. The explosion, which emanated from a tractor-trailer left idling on Pennsylvania Avenue between the J. Edgar Hoover FBI Building and the Old Post Office, shattered windows in both the White House and the Capitol and caused massive damage to the buildings around it. Security cameras recorded two men, white, one of them the driver of the truck, fleeing the scene on a motorcycle that had previously been in front of the truck.
Similarities between the attack and fictional events described in the White Supremacist novel The Turner Diaries, which sees the destruction of FBI Headquarters in a similar attack as a “call to arms” for white Americans, have been noted. A group calling itself The Sword of Liberty, believed to be a violent offshoot of the white supremacist The Covenant, the Sword, and the Arm of the Lord organization, has claimed credit for the attack, calling it “the first shot in the Second American Revolution, fired on this 220th anniversary of the Shot Heard ‘Round the World at Lexington. The FBI’s flagrant murder of Christian children in Waco has been avenged, but our mission to retake America from Godless Communists, [African Americans], Sodomites, and stooges of the Rothschilds has only just begun.” While the FBI has been unable to verify the group’s claims, they have released the pictures of the two suspects and are offering a $100,000 reward.
While official figures are not yet in, hundreds are believed dead, including many federal agents[1], making the attack the deadliest terror attack in US history. FBI and local casualties may have been larger had FBI security teams not noticed that something was awry and ordered an evacuation. President Gore has called the attack “an act of evil and cowardice” and vowed to hold those responsible accountable “with the full authority of the law.”
Similarly, FBI Director…Cont’d on A2.
Gunman Attacks Local Synagogue
The Arizona Republic Extra, May 12th, 1995
Phoenix – An armed man with an automatic rifle opened fire on worshipers at the Bel El Congregation synagogue this morning during Friday services, killing 14 and injuring 24, including children and an elderly holocaust survivor. The suspected shooter, a white male who was killed by Phoenix police, has not been identified by the authorities. Witnesses describe the man as uttering antisemitic slurs as he entered the congregation and opened fire. It is unknown at this time if the shooter was in any way connected to the Sword of Liberty terrorist cell that claimed responsibility for April’s DC bombing[2]. More will be reported as facts are known.
Bomb Kills 5 in Mt. Helm Baptist Church Attack
The Jackson Clarion-Ledger, June 7th, 1995
Jackson – The historic Mt. Helm Baptist Church, a historically African American church founded in 1835 to provide services for enslaved peoples, was badly damaged by a package bomb last night, killing five staff members and congregants and injuring 7 others there for Bible study. Comparisons to the 1963 bombing of the 16th Street Baptist Church in Birmingham, Alabama, are already being made. The Sword of Liberty has claimed responsibility for the attack, though claims to have not intended to cause fatalities. The FBI is investigating the incident as a domestic terrorist attack. Cont’d on A2.
FBI Organizational Threat Assessment: The Sword of Liberty and Other Militant White Nationalist Organizations
October 1995 [Redacted 2007 FOIA Release]
Abstract
Logo similar to this, but lacks the rainbow for obvious reasons
The Sword of Liberty organization (SoL), a militant offshoot of The Covenant, the Sword, and the Arm of the Lord organization, entered onto the scene in April of 1995 with the vehicle-borne explosive device attack upon the J. Edgar Hoover building in Washington DC. Since then, they have committed or inspired additional bombings and bombing attempts, shootings, assassinations, kidnappings, and other crimes. Their appearance and the severity and suddenness of these attacks shocked most Americans, who never fully expected a domestic assault of that scale in the contiguous United States. Contrary to this public assumption, the steady rise of right-wing militancy, commonly overlapping with White Nationalist organizations such as the Aryan Brotherhood and Ku Klux Klan and various Christian Nationalist organizations, and increasingly organized through online communications, has been a growing factor in US fringe politics since the end of Segregation, with origins going back to the reconstruction era.
The following report details the growth and diversification of Militant White Nationalist Organizations (MWNO) from the early days of post-Confederate “Lost Cause” ideology and the rise of the KKK, through segregation and the Lynching epidemic and violent KKK opposition to immigration and desegregation in the early 20th Century, to the rise of Fascist-inspired fringe politics in the midcentury, to the rise of antigovernmental “survivalist” culture in the late 20th Century. It identifies the historical, cultural, and political links between MWNOs and various right wing and populist political, cultural, and religious movements in the US and various sympathetic criminal enterprises such as Neo-Nazi prison gangs and white “1-percenter” motorcycle gangs. It explores how recent political trends have exacerbated an existing sense of isolation and disillusionment within the core MWNO constituencies, such as the rise of the Gore administration in 1992, the “backstabbing” of Vice President Quayle by the Bush reelection team in the same year, the “child killing” FBI raid[3] on the Branch Davidian compound in Waco, Texas, the failed promise of the 1994 “Republican Revolution”, and the mixture of hope and disappointment that came with the rise of the Reform Party[4].
This report explores the demographics and socio-political overlaps between MWNOs and surrounding communities. While likely only representing a few hundred to thousand people (SoL has an estimated two dozen core members and three dozen ancillary accomplices), MWNOs derive some support and sympathies or at least a sense of “understanding” or shared core beliefs with larger communities, and even some conservative populist commentators and politicians, such as {REDACTED}. “Supportive” communities may number in the tens-of-thousands to hundreds-of-thousands and “sympathetic” communities potentially number in the millions. Online communities, such as the Neo-Nazi organizations that communicate through the Stormfront website and similar portals, have allowed for an unprecedented ability to share opinions, share information and intelligence, discuss tactics, and even plan or coordinate attacks (section 4 describes FBI monitoring and surveillance methodology).
This report further explores the threat vectors as well as mitigating factors for MWNO attacks, such as the spread of online bomb-making instructions and the availability of weapons both legal and illegal. The recent flooding of the international market by cheap USR-made firearms and munitions offers a particular concern[5]. Pertinent weapons vectors include {REDACTED}.
Finally, this report offers strategies and tactics for the continued monitoring, surveillance, and disruption of MWNO cells. It explores their primary and secondary targets and their most likely next attacks. Potential targets are identified from government buildings to minority racial and religious communities to politicians to judges to private organizations and individuals (even Disney parks and executives), all of which have been identified in online “target lists” gathered via {REDACTED}. Disrupting and investigating these cells and preventing future activities will be daunting given the decentralized nature of the cells and the large community of supporters to call upon to help conceal or obfuscate their actions and identities.
At this time, the overall threat assessments of MWNOs such as SoL is considered HIGH and the priority for disruption of these organizations, given their mobility, unpredictability, and danger, is likewise considered HIGH.
Additional reports will be produced as additional information comes in.
[1] The final official tally will be 48 dead, 164 wounded (83 of them seriously), and four missing, assumed dead, including 13 FBI employee fatalities and 47 FBI non-fatal casualties, most of them simple desk workers and maintenance/cleaning/support staff rather than agents. The rather solid stone walls of the Old Post Office building will help limit civilian casualties in that structure, which at the time was a public building with shops and a food court (it has since become the Trump International Hotel Washington, D.C., and is now the Waldorf Astoria). Special Agent Debra Evans of the Alphy’s bust and the Hansen flip will suffer minor injuries, including scaring, with a small but noticeable scar on her left cheek.
[2] The Sword of Liberty will not claim responsibility, but will approve of the attack, calling its perpetrator, who was armed with a fully automatic AK-47 and had a semiautomatic AR-15 in the car, a “patriot and a martyr.”
[3] Without Ruby Ridge, fewer people on the edge of radicalization will become radicalized in this timeline, while conversely the fact that the FBI had little choice at Waco but to shoot armed teenagers during the raid lends itself to the “murder of Christian children” narrative circling far-right message boards and underground papers. This smaller, more insular revolutionary right-wing community, particularly with continuing disappointment on the political front (Newt Gingrich served to some degree as a “social safety release valve” for anger on the right, who at least felt like they were still a part of the system), is leading these smaller communities to feel increasingly isolated and desperate. These are the same communities that brought about the Oklahoma City bombing in our timeline (while the full extent of McVey’s network of accomplices remains murky, his supporters and sympathizers were numerous; it was not, as many on the right like to proclaim, a “Lone Wolf Attack”). And violent, militant White Nationalism has been a big part of US politics for a long time. I’ve personally known, served with, and even been close friends with people who supported McVey’s actions including some who wrote letters of support to McVey in the late 1990s, fully convinced that he was a patriotic patsy in a Clinton-run false flag operation intended to overthrow democracy and install a Socialist Dictatorship; I am not exaggerating or joking on that front. Nobody should have been surprised at the current “political trends” in the US.
[4] Many initially derived hope from Pat Buchannan’s fiery speech at the Reform Party convention and were later disappointed to see a swath of largely centrist or regionalist politicians rather than the militant nativism that they’d expected. “I went in expecting Pat and got Perot!” one angrily said. “Here’s to the new boss, same as the old boss!”
[5] Thanks, Yuri.
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Damn meanwhile I just stumbled on this when I was looking for something new to read, funny how life can be.
On the post, I am a Japanese Filipino living in the other side of the Globe, so I really can't comment on it as I have little to no experience about this stuff.
Here's a higher-res version:
Well that's horrifying. Excellent post @Geekhis Khan
At the very least it sounds like not as many people will be funneled into radical White Supremacist groups as OTL, but conversely the remaining White Supremacists will be more active in their terrorism.
With such an attack at the heart of the US intelligence corps I hope they take more effective measures against those organizations than OTL.
I wonder how this will affect Pop culture in the year(s) to come.
At the very least it sounds like not as many people will be funneled into radical White Supremacist groups as OTL, but conversely the remaining White Supremacists will be more active in their terrorism.
With such an attack at the heart of the US intelligence corps I hope they take more effective measures against those organizations than OTL.
I wonder how this will affect Pop culture in the year(s) to come.
Well I guess that this shouldn't be a surprise, more progressive politics now also means more push back against it too.Explosion in Downtown Washington
Hundreds believed dead or wounded in assumed Terrorist Attack
FBI Headquarters badly damaged; FBI puts out search for two men
“Sword of Liberty” group claims responsibility
Washington Post, April 19th, 1995
Washington, DC – a massive explosion rocked downtown DC this morning in what the FBI believes to be a domestic terror attack. The explosion, which emanated from a tractor-trailer left idling on Pennsylvania Avenue between the J. Edgar Hoover FBI Building and the Old Post Office, shattered windows in both the White House and the Capitol and caused massive damage to the buildings around it. Security cameras recorded two men, white, one of them the driver of the truck, fleeing the scene on a motorcycle that had previously been in front of the truck.
Similarities between the attack and fictional events described in the White Supremacist novel The Turner Diaries, which sees the destruction of FBI Headquarters in a similar attack as a “call to arms” for white Americans, have been noted. A group calling itself The Sword of Liberty, believed to be a violent offshoot of the white supremacist The Covenant, the Sword, and the Arm of the Lord organization, has claimed credit for the attack, calling it “the first shot in the Second American Revolution, fired on this 220th anniversary of the Shot Heard ‘Round the World at Lexington. The FBI’s flagrant murder of Christian children in Waco has been avenged, but our mission to retake America from Godless Communists, [African Americans], Sodomites, and stooges of the Rothschilds has only just begun.” While the FBI has been unable to verify the group’s claims, they have released the pictures of the two suspects and are offering a $100,000 reward.
While official figures are not yet in, hundreds are believed dead, including many federal agents[1], making the attack the deadliest terror attack in US history. FBI and local casualties may have been larger had FBI security teams not noticed that something was awry and ordered an evacuation. President Gore has called the attack “an act of evil and cowardice” and vowed to hold those responsible accountable “with the full authority of the law.”
Similarly, FBI Director…Cont’d on A2.
Gunman Attacks Local Synagogue
The Arizona Republic Extra, May 12th, 1995
Phoenix – An armed man with an automatic rifle opened fire on worshipers at the Bel El Congregation synagogue this morning during Friday services, killing 14 and injuring 24, including children and an elderly holocaust survivor. The suspected shooter, a white male who was killed by Phoenix police, has not been identified by the authorities. Witnesses describe the man as uttering antisemitic slurs as he entered the congregation and opened fire. It is unknown at this time if the shooter was in any way connected to the Sword of Liberty terrorist cell that claimed responsibility for April’s DC bombing[2]. More will be reported as facts are known.
Bomb Kills 5 in Mt. Helm Baptist Church Attack
The Jackson Clarion-Ledger, June 7th, 1995
Jackson – The historic Mt. Helm Baptist Church, a historically African American church founded in 1835 to provide services for enslaved peoples, was badly damaged by a package bomb last night, killing five staff members and congregants and injuring 7 others there for Bible study. Comparisons to the 1963 bombing of the 16th Street Baptist Church in Birmingham, Alabama, are already being made. The Sword of Liberty has claimed responsibility for the attack, though claims to have not intended to cause fatalities. The FBI is investigating the incident as a domestic terrorist attack. Cont’d on A2.
FBI Organizational Threat Assessment: The Sword of Liberty and Other Militant White Nationalist Organizations
October 1995 [Redacted 2007 FOIA Release]
Abstract
Logo similar to this, but lacks the rainbow for obvious reasons
The Sword of Liberty organization (SoL), a militant offshoot of The Covenant, the Sword, and the Arm of the Lord organization, entered onto the scene in April of 1995 with the vehicle-borne explosive device attack upon the J. Edgar Hoover building in Washington DC. Since then, they have committed or inspired additional bombings and bombing attempts, shootings, assassinations, kidnappings, and other crimes. Their appearance and the severity and suddenness of these attacks shocked most Americans, who never fully expected a domestic assault of that scale in the contiguous United States. Contrary to this public assumption, the steady rise of right-wing militancy, commonly overlapping with White Nationalist organizations such as the Aryan Brotherhood and Ku Klux Klan and various Christian Nationalist organizations, and increasingly organized through online communications, has been a growing factor in US fringe politics since the end of Segregation, with origins going back to the reconstruction era.
The following report details the growth and diversification of Militant White Nationalist Organizations (MWNO) from the early days of post-Confederate “Lost Cause” ideology and the rise of the KKK, through segregation and the Lynching epidemic and violent KKK opposition to immigration and desegregation in the early 20th Century, to the rise of Fascist-inspired fringe politics in the midcentury, to the rise of antigovernmental “survivalist” culture in the late 20th Century. It identifies the historical, cultural, and political links between MWNOs and various right wing and populist political, cultural, and religious movements in the US and various sympathetic criminal enterprises such as Neo-Nazi prison gangs and white “1-percenter” motorcycle gangs. It explores how recent political trends have exacerbated an existing sense of isolation and disillusionment within the core MWNO constituencies, such as the rise of the Gore administration in 1992, the “backstabbing” of Vice President Quayle by the Bush reelection team in the same year, the “child killing” FBI raid[3] on the Branch Davidian compound in Waco, Texas, the failed promise of the 1994 “Republican Revolution”, and the mixture of hope and disappointment that came with the rise of the Reform Party[4].
This report explores the demographics and socio-political overlaps between MWNOs and surrounding communities. While likely only representing a few hundred to thousand people (SoL has an estimated two dozen core members and three dozen ancillary accomplices), MWNOs derive some support and sympathies or at least a sense of “understanding” or shared core beliefs with larger communities, and even some conservative populist commentators and politicians, such as {REDACTED}. “Supportive” communities may number in the tens-of-thousands to hundreds-of-thousands and “sympathetic” communities potentially number in the millions. Online communities, such as the Neo-Nazi organizations that communicate through the Stormfront website and similar portals, have allowed for an unprecedented ability to share opinions, share information and intelligence, discuss tactics, and even plan or coordinate attacks (section 4 describes FBI monitoring and surveillance methodology).
This report further explores the threat vectors as well as mitigating factors for MWNO attacks, such as the spread of online bomb-making instructions and the availability of weapons both legal and illegal. The recent flooding of the international market by cheap USR-made firearms and munitions offers a particular concern[5]. Pertinent weapons vectors include {REDACTED}.
Finally, this report offers strategies and tactics for the continued monitoring, surveillance, and disruption of MWNO cells. It explores their primary and secondary targets and their most likely next attacks. Potential targets are identified from government buildings to minority racial and religious communities to politicians to judges to private organizations and individuals (even Disney parks and executives), all of which have been identified in online “target lists” gathered via {REDACTED}. Disrupting and investigating these cells and preventing future activities will be daunting given the decentralized nature of the cells and the large community of supporters to call upon to help conceal or obfuscate their actions and identities.
At this time, the overall threat assessments of MWNOs such as SoL is considered HIGH and the priority for disruption of these organizations, given their mobility, unpredictability, and danger, is likewise considered HIGH.
Additional reports will be produced as additional information comes in.
[1] The final official tally will be 48 dead, 164 wounded (83 of them seriously), and four missing, assumed dead, including 13 FBI employee fatalities and 47 FBI non-fatal casualties, most of them simple desk workers and maintenance/cleaning/support staff rather than agents. The rather solid stone walls of the Old Post Office building will help limit civilian casualties in that structure, which at the time was a public building with shops and a food court (it has since become the Trump International Hotel Washington, D.C., and is now the Waldorf Astoria). Special Agent Debra Evans of the Alphy’s bust and the Hansen flip will suffer minor injuries, including scaring, with a small but noticeable scar on her left cheek.
[2] The Sword of Liberty will not claim responsibility, but will approve of the attack, calling its perpetrator, who was armed with a fully automatic AK-47 and had a semiautomatic AR-15 in the car, a “patriot and a martyr.”
[3] Without Ruby Ridge, fewer people on the edge of radicalization will become radicalized in this timeline, while conversely the fact that the FBI had little choice at Waco but to shoot armed teenagers during the raid lends itself to the “murder of Christian children” narrative circling far-right message boards and underground papers. This smaller, more insular revolutionary right-wing community, particularly with continuing disappointment on the political front (Newt Gingrich served to some degree as a “social safety release valve” for anger on the right, who at least felt like they were still a part of the system), is leading these smaller communities to feel increasingly isolated and desperate. These are the same communities that brought about the Oklahoma City bombing in our timeline (while the full extent of McVey’s network of accomplices remains murky, his supporters and sympathizers were numerous; it was not, as many on the right like to proclaim, a “Lone Wolf Attack”). And violent, militant White Nationalism has been a big part of US politics for a long time. I’ve personally known, served with, and even been close friends with people who supported McVey’s actions including some who wrote letters of support to McVey in the late 1990s, fully convinced that he was a patriotic patsy in a Clinton-run false flag operation intended to overthrow democracy and install a Socialist Dictatorship; I am not exaggerating or joking on that front. Nobody should have been surprised at the current “political trends” in the US.
[4] Many initially derived hope from Pat Buchannan’s fiery speech at the Reform Party convention and were later disappointed to see a swath of largely centrist or regionalist politicians rather than the militant nativism that they’d expected. “I went in expecting Pat and got Perot!” one angrily said. “Here’s to the new boss, same as the old boss!”
[5] Thanks, Yuri.
Hope that doesn't escalate too much. Also ironic how the Waco incident is viewed as an attack against white Christians instead of an attack against the Second Amendment.
Maybe 9/11 will be an actual inside job this time?
Eh not really, that has been an open secret for a long while.
SWEET JESUS.
I didn't expect such a thing like that, nor anyone.
We just hope this spurs on a lot more action against white supremacists, and conversely racial justice.
I didn't expect such a thing like that, nor anyone.
We just hope this spurs on a lot more action against white supremacists, and conversely racial justice.
So now you're doing this???........Explosion in Downtown Washington
Hundreds believed dead or wounded in assumed Terrorist Attack
FBI Headquarters badly damaged; FBI puts out search for two men
“Sword of Liberty” group claims responsibility
Washington Post, April 19th, 1995
Washington, DC – a massive explosion rocked downtown DC this morning in what the FBI believes to be a domestic terror attack. The explosion, which emanated from a tractor-trailer left idling on Pennsylvania Avenue between the J. Edgar Hoover FBI Building and the Old Post Office, shattered windows in both the White House and the Capitol and caused massive damage to the buildings around it. Security cameras recorded two men, white, one of them the driver of the truck, fleeing the scene on a motorcycle that had previously been in front of the truck.
Similarities between the attack and fictional events described in the White Supremacist novel The Turner Diaries, which sees the destruction of FBI Headquarters in a similar attack as a “call to arms” for white Americans, have been noted. A group calling itself The Sword of Liberty, believed to be a violent offshoot of the white supremacist The Covenant, the Sword, and the Arm of the Lord organization, has claimed credit for the attack, calling it “the first shot in the Second American Revolution, fired on this 220th anniversary of the Shot Heard ‘Round the World at Lexington. The FBI’s flagrant murder of Christian children in Waco has been avenged, but our mission to retake America from Godless Communists, [African Americans], Sodomites, and stooges of the Rothschilds has only just begun.” While the FBI has been unable to verify the group’s claims, they have released the pictures of the two suspects and are offering a $100,000 reward.
While official figures are not yet in, hundreds are believed dead, including many federal agents[1], making the attack the deadliest terror attack in US history. FBI and local casualties may have been larger had FBI security teams not noticed that something was awry and ordered an evacuation. President Gore has called the attack “an act of evil and cowardice” and vowed to hold those responsible accountable “with the full authority of the law.”
Similarly, FBI Director…Cont’d on A2.
Gunman Attacks Local Synagogue
The Arizona Republic Extra, May 12th, 1995
Phoenix – An armed man with an automatic rifle opened fire on worshipers at the Bel El Congregation synagogue this morning during Friday services, killing 14 and injuring 24, including children and an elderly holocaust survivor. The suspected shooter, a white male who was killed by Phoenix police, has not been identified by the authorities. Witnesses describe the man as uttering antisemitic slurs as he entered the congregation and opened fire. It is unknown at this time if the shooter was in any way connected to the Sword of Liberty terrorist cell that claimed responsibility for April’s DC bombing[2]. More will be reported as facts are known.
Bomb Kills 5 in Mt. Helm Baptist Church Attack
The Jackson Clarion-Ledger, June 7th, 1995
Jackson – The historic Mt. Helm Baptist Church, a historically African American church founded in 1835 to provide services for enslaved peoples, was badly damaged by a package bomb last night, killing five staff members and congregants and injuring 7 others there for Bible study. Comparisons to the 1963 bombing of the 16th Street Baptist Church in Birmingham, Alabama, are already being made. The Sword of Liberty has claimed responsibility for the attack, though claims to have not intended to cause fatalities. The FBI is investigating the incident as a domestic terrorist attack. Cont’d on A2.
FBI Organizational Threat Assessment: The Sword of Liberty and Other Militant White Nationalist Organizations
October 1995 [Redacted 2007 FOIA Release]
Abstract
Logo similar to this, but lacks the rainbow for obvious reasons
The Sword of Liberty organization (SoL), a militant offshoot of The Covenant, the Sword, and the Arm of the Lord organization, entered onto the scene in April of 1995 with the vehicle-borne explosive device attack upon the J. Edgar Hoover building in Washington DC. Since then, they have committed or inspired additional bombings and bombing attempts, shootings, assassinations, kidnappings, and other crimes. Their appearance and the severity and suddenness of these attacks shocked most Americans, who never fully expected a domestic assault of that scale in the contiguous United States. Contrary to this public assumption, the steady rise of right-wing militancy, commonly overlapping with White Nationalist organizations such as the Aryan Brotherhood and Ku Klux Klan and various Christian Nationalist organizations, and increasingly organized through online communications, has been a growing factor in US fringe politics since the end of Segregation, with origins going back to the reconstruction era.
The following report details the growth and diversification of Militant White Nationalist Organizations (MWNO) from the early days of post-Confederate “Lost Cause” ideology and the rise of the KKK, through segregation and the Lynching epidemic and violent KKK opposition to immigration and desegregation in the early 20th Century, to the rise of Fascist-inspired fringe politics in the midcentury, to the rise of antigovernmental “survivalist” culture in the late 20th Century. It identifies the historical, cultural, and political links between MWNOs and various right wing and populist political, cultural, and religious movements in the US and various sympathetic criminal enterprises such as Neo-Nazi prison gangs and white “1-percenter” motorcycle gangs. It explores how recent political trends have exacerbated an existing sense of isolation and disillusionment within the core MWNO constituencies, such as the rise of the Gore administration in 1992, the “backstabbing” of Vice President Quayle by the Bush reelection team in the same year, the “child killing” FBI raid[3] on the Branch Davidian compound in Waco, Texas, the failed promise of the 1994 “Republican Revolution”, and the mixture of hope and disappointment that came with the rise of the Reform Party[4].
This report explores the demographics and socio-political overlaps between MWNOs and surrounding communities. While likely only representing a few hundred to thousand people (SoL has an estimated two dozen core members and three dozen ancillary accomplices), MWNOs derive some support and sympathies or at least a sense of “understanding” or shared core beliefs with larger communities, and even some conservative populist commentators and politicians, such as {REDACTED}. “Supportive” communities may number in the tens-of-thousands to hundreds-of-thousands and “sympathetic” communities potentially number in the millions. Online communities, such as the Neo-Nazi organizations that communicate through the Stormfront website and similar portals, have allowed for an unprecedented ability to share opinions, share information and intelligence, discuss tactics, and even plan or coordinate attacks (section 4 describes FBI monitoring and surveillance methodology).
This report further explores the threat vectors as well as mitigating factors for MWNO attacks, such as the spread of online bomb-making instructions and the availability of weapons both legal and illegal. The recent flooding of the international market by cheap USR-made firearms and munitions offers a particular concern[5]. Pertinent weapons vectors include {REDACTED}.
Finally, this report offers strategies and tactics for the continued monitoring, surveillance, and disruption of MWNO cells. It explores their primary and secondary targets and their most likely next attacks. Potential targets are identified from government buildings to minority racial and religious communities to politicians to judges to private organizations and individuals (even Disney parks and executives), all of which have been identified in online “target lists” gathered via {REDACTED}. Disrupting and investigating these cells and preventing future activities will be daunting given the decentralized nature of the cells and the large community of supporters to call upon to help conceal or obfuscate their actions and identities.
At this time, the overall threat assessments of MWNOs such as SoL is considered HIGH and the priority for disruption of these organizations, given their mobility, unpredictability, and danger, is likewise considered HIGH.
Additional reports will be produced as additional information comes in.
[1] The final official tally will be 48 dead, 164 wounded (83 of them seriously), and four missing, assumed dead, including 13 FBI employee fatalities and 47 FBI non-fatal casualties, most of them simple desk workers and maintenance/cleaning/support staff rather than agents. The rather solid stone walls of the Old Post Office building will help limit civilian casualties in that structure, which at the time was a public building with shops and a food court (it has since become the Trump International Hotel Washington, D.C., and is now the Waldorf Astoria). Special Agent Debra Evans of the Alphy’s bust and the Hansen flip will suffer minor injuries, including scaring, with a small but noticeable scar on her left cheek.
[2] The Sword of Liberty will not claim responsibility, but will approve of the attack, calling its perpetrator, who was armed with a fully automatic AK-47 and had a semiautomatic AR-15 in the car, a “patriot and a martyr.”
[3] Without Ruby Ridge, fewer people on the edge of radicalization will become radicalized in this timeline, while conversely the fact that the FBI had little choice at Waco but to shoot armed teenagers during the raid lends itself to the “murder of Christian children” narrative circling far-right message boards and underground papers. This smaller, more insular revolutionary right-wing community, particularly with continuing disappointment on the political front (Newt Gingrich served to some degree as a “social safety release valve” for anger on the right, who at least felt like they were still a part of the system), is leading these smaller communities to feel increasingly isolated and desperate. These are the same communities that brought about the Oklahoma City bombing in our timeline (while the full extent of McVey’s network of accomplices remains murky, his supporters and sympathizers were numerous; it was not, as many on the right like to proclaim, a “Lone Wolf Attack”). And violent, militant White Nationalism has been a big part of US politics for a long time. I’ve personally known, served with, and even been close friends with people who supported McVey’s actions including some who wrote letters of support to McVey in the late 1990s, fully convinced that he was a patriotic patsy in a Clinton-run false flag operation intended to overthrow democracy and install a Socialist Dictatorship; I am not exaggerating or joking on that front. Nobody should have been surprised at the current “political trends” in the US.
[4] Many initially derived hope from Pat Buchannan’s fiery speech at the Reform Party convention and were later disappointed to see a swath of largely centrist or regionalist politicians rather than the militant nativism that they’d expected. “I went in expecting Pat and got Perot!” one angrily said. “Here’s to the new boss, same as the old boss!”
[5] Thanks, Yuri.
Supremacist attacks and craps....
Really????
Please don't do anything that could be destructive to this country.....
How’s this?
I imagine this is what he might have looked like as he was growing into a teenager right before he left the show.
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