how else are their going to make their abstract artwork life sized?
Separated at Birth: America and Drakia
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Hell the Situationists seem more socialist-leaning than AnCap to me.
To me their a weird mix of capitalism and socialism with some old fashioned slavery thrown in.
And in the case of Free China, they've worked directly with socialists and "utopians"/communists as a governing coalition, so there's bound to be some ideological cross-pollination (especially if the latter tend more towards the anarchist conception of stateless communism than the Marxist-Leninist strain of thought).
Huh? Unless I missed something, I don't remember situationism approving of slavery. Kinda goes against their whole "Homo ludens" thing.
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Abstract art is...well, abstract. It doesn't have a life size.
Although I do find the idea of a Situationism-flavored radiation craze to be appealing in a Madness sort of way.
Star-Raker fits the aesthetic too. Almost too well, really.
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Well at the moment it's what they know works, and it plays to the technology that they already have. Don't worry, they'll move on to other methods to get humans into space.
Thanks, and so can I!
I was worried that no one would get that reference.
Yeah, space guns may not be as good as rockets in getting stuff to space but HARP demonstrated pretty well that they would work fine for launching satellites and rugged payloads. In a universe where conventional rocketry is still significantly behind OTL, but space guns are a proven technology, that's where you're going to start.
One promise that I have for you, is that "conventional rocketry" for space launches will never be a thing ITTL.
Obviously a meme but it seemed worth it. Hot damn, they're fighting over the moon!
A mural commemorating the "Lunar War" (2019)
They're shooting for the moon!
This chapter likes Jules Verne.
Well thank you, maybe some day.
Just wait until the generation brought up through the Agoge takes power. Kobold is of course my nod to Eric von Shrakenberg- the "sympathetic" villain protagonist of the vanilla Drakaverse who nevertheless continues to work and fight faithfully to propagate a brutal, totalitarian empire.
That indigenous person ended up being elected president.
I do think we're still a little ways out from social media though.I'm going to say "yes", although I'd imagine that there would be a couple of competing romanizations, only one of which would end up being used for computing.
Not quite yet. They've successfully put a projectile in orbit with functioning electronics, but they haven't yet reached the stage of being able to get the projectile back down onto a chosen target. You're right in that it's only a matter of time though.
Oh, GW is getting going even faster than OTL. I keep meaning to mention the rise of TTL's environmentalist movement, and then forgetting.
Thank you!
Wow, that's a terrifying idea. Let me do some research.
Oh, that's fine. Think neoclassical brutalism for Aurica, lots of big buildings, pollution, and electric lights.
This sort of stuff;
Not mass drivers unfortunately, I looked into it and apparently it's impractical to use one to get off Earth.
I'm afraid this may be a little outside of my area of expertise.
Thanks, we should be getting to the AfD itself pretty soon. Don't worry! Drakia will make it at least as far as the Final War.
Thank you!
Thanks, may this year be better than the last one for all of us.
I reckon that too much dystopia is boring.
Some good observations. I'm thinking that Modern Heavy Infantry is a thing, with specialized units of soldiers using exoskeletons to carry additional equipment to maximize their firepower. They would be the doctrinal descendant of the German blitzsoldaten, finding and exploiting enemy weaknesses and then calling in reinforcements to exploit those opening. Of course they are used rather differently in Antarctica. On the other side of the coin you have standard light infantry who aren't using their exoskeletons to carry additional equipment, but instead to make themselves faster and more mobile with the equipment that they already have. Both will have a place on the battlefield.
So, Egypt and a number of other Princely States (Kurdistan, Tunisia, Damagram, Mogadishu, etc.) are under Muslim rulers who are collaborating with the Empire and there are several Martial Races that are predominantly Muslims (the "Misri", the Kurds, the Somalis, the Fulani, and the Hausa). Drakia needs its Muslim collaborators, and has been canny enough historically to be respectful of their religion- for the collaborators at least. Medina and Mecca are administered by the Egyptians, including the Kaaba, and Muslim Honorary White Citizens and Nationals are welcome to make pilgrimages. There's an Egyptian Caliph pushing a variant of Islam compatible with Societist thought that all Drakian Muslims at least nominally subscribe to, but there's very little enforcement of this and for the most part non-Bonded Muslims can pray and practice however they like.
This is not the case for Muslim Bondsmen of course.
Keep reading and find out.
Ah, finally took the time to finish reading this TL! Must say, fantastic story you've created, I'm always excited to read a new post.
I'm glad to hear that you like it! It's hard to believe that it's reached 36 chapters.
Ai Weiwei is a famous Chinese artist and critic of the PRC who famously once took a picture of himself flipping off the Forbidden City. Among various tactics that the CCP tried to use to intimidate him was the time they assigned a police officer to follow him around, recording everything he did, so Weiwei hired someone of his own to follow the police officer around, recording him recording Wewei.
Truth is stranger than fiction.
You'll find out.
Very true. Demographics all over the Drakian Empire are different from OTL, sometimes dramatically so.
Among others.
Ethnically I think most bondsman are closer to Cape Colors instead of Native Africans. Thanks to all the ethnic tribes and groups that were dispersed across the Empire, intermarriage and such. So it wouldn't surprise me if by 2000 most of some middle eastern, European and Asian heritage mixed in with their African roots.
I'm going to take a stab and say stuff like air launching and aircraft piggybacking are going to be this timelines main method of space launches where spaceguns are impractical (particularly for squishy human). Big airplanes like bombers do the heavy lifting and getting the payload off the ground and to the edge of space before the drop and rocket boosters take it the rest of the way. Either that or brute forcing it and go the full spaceplane route like SkylonYeah, space guns may not be as good as rockets in getting stuff to space but HARP demonstrated pretty well that they would work fine for launching satellites and rugged payloads. In a universe where conventional rocketry is still significantly behind OTL, but space guns are a proven technology, that's where you're going to start.
One promise that I have for you, is that "conventional rocketry" for space launches will never be a thing ITTL.
Lets be honest, no-one will be surprised if the Drakia go full Hunger Games on us. The Polemarch already looks like Donald Sutherland in my head
My first thought was something like project Orion but without nukes that won’t work. And dropping rockets from planes seems to easy... jets designed to get themselves to space? Looking forward to what’s up your sleeve!One promise that I have for you, is that "conventional rocketry" for space launches will never be a thing ITTL.
This...works surprisingly well, actually. Obviously the "wealthy capital and twelve districts dedicated to production of one specific resource each" system doesn't quite map onto what Drakia's got going on, but I think the overall mindset of the White Citizen population and its government would remain similar, in terms of how they would express their power aesthetically. I like it!
Lets be honest, no-one will be surprised if the Drakia go full Hunger Games on us. The Polemarch already looks like Donald Sutherland in my head
The Sony Building in Manhattan. Uhh, pretend that's a Drakian flag.
Ah yes, the good old MI6 Building. Looks perfect for a Drakian foreign intelligence agency to call home. Fun fact: the first time I saw this was when it got blown up in Skyfall!
Headquarters of KazMunayGas, the state-owned oil and gas company of Kazakhstan.
And here's the Kazakh Parliament building. What can I say, the architecture of Nur-Sultan really is quite striking. (Well, that's one word for it, anyway.)
Here's a rendering of the Palace of Soviets, which was planned but never built due to construction being interrupted by WWII. Just replace the Lenin statue with one of Jesus (the Empire's "head of state") or, better yet, ol' Stoker himself. He certainly seemed megalomaniacal enough to want something like this.
Speaking of megalomania...the Mansudae Assembly Hall, seat of the Supreme People's Assembly of the DPRK. Juche-Societist syncretism when?
One promise that I have for you, is that "conventional rocketry" for space launches will never be a thing ITTL.
Oh, boy. Is this a shuttle-punk timeline??
As expected, Aurica picks the style of architecture that's the greatest crime against humanity
I would love to see how attempts at getting humans into space with space guns backfire catastrophically here.
How daring, EBR.
Anyways, I do think that this would be ever relevant if this timeline's space agencies would ever be foolish enough to use airplanes for way heavier payloads, let alone the Lunar program. I do also trust that you already checked the Wikipedia page for non-rocket space launches.
Oh, boy. Is this a shuttle-punk timeline??
Well, let us hope that their theoretical sciences do catch up so that they can easily find the potential applications their judicious engineering had just stumbled upon those last decades.
Speaking of delivery systems, would that mean that a much more significant amount of nuclear warheads would be put into bombers? If they're capable of carrying heavy spacecraft then those must be able to carry some good amount of nukes, musn't they? The catch is, no one would have wanted bombers flying somewhere near their airspace for that matter, and they wouldn't want their own to be preemptively detected and intercepted too.
Would the geopolitcal reality still necessitate I C B M ' s ?
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