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Thanks. I had this weird idea of Bismarck's parents fleeing what is now Germany due to political violence and settling in the United States of America... and have a displaced Bismarck rather like HeX's displaced Churchill and Napoleon53's displaced Stalin (Joe Steele). That would greatly change Germany's formation so the effects will be manifold.To put a link to a TL below your post, go to the 'About' section of your profile and put it in your Signature. It should show up then
Yes, it would. I've just finished a book on Queen Victoria's daughters and the author is adamant that the future Wilhelm II very much looked up to Bismarck and his grandfather and sought to emulate their military successes, unlike his father and British mother, who deplored them. Without a Bismarck to make Prussia as successful as it was, it could be that ITTL's Wilhelm II has a much happier relationship with his parents, although they'd still have the horrendous birth and very different characters to overcome... Although if Prussia isn't so militaristic from the start, the Princess Royal may be better accepted as a future Empress there anyway...Thanks. I had this weird idea of Bismarck's parents fleeing what is now Germany due to political violence and settling in the United States of America... and have a displaced Bismarck rather like HeX's displaced Churchill and Napoleon53's displaced Stalin (Joe Steele). That would greatly change Germany's formation so the effects will be manifold.
Modern DNA testings already proven that Descendants of Sally Hemmings' surviving adult Children (especially her sons), is definitely genetic descendants of Thomas Jefferson as well.Hey, that sounds like a good idea. I'll incorporate it, somehow, although that will probably be later when historians and historiography have evolved enough to separate the truth from the rumors. There will be something about that sometime, but in the future. Next update about the U.S. proper, and some French Revolution as well.
Jefferson marrying Sally Hemmings would be a great step forward, but we should remember that interracial marriage was not allowed until the SCOTUS decided the issue in 1967, and Virginia was the offending state in question. That was 100+ years after the end of slavery.
That never happened in this timeline. Now Interracial marriage would be allowed earlier (SCOTUS would decide the issue far earlier) but I'm nowhere close to that point yet.
That is because they were the most cowardly of hypocrites. We wanted freedom from Great Britain and that all men were created equal. They, however, thought it would mean the end of slavery, which they apparently treasured to the degree that they would not join us in our fight for freedom. I knew there would be trouble with the anti-slavery clause in the Declaration of Independence, but I never knew the Deep Southern delegates would be so protective of their ‘peculiar institution’ as to betray us. These unworthy Judases deserve their place in the ninth circle of hell. In that case, we will continue with our journey for independence. The objections in the lower South will not deter us from our dream of freedom.
-Thomas Jefferson
Jefferson marrying Sally Hemmings would be a great step forward, but we should remember that interracial marriage was not allowed until the SCOTUS decided the issue in 1967, and Virginia was the offending state in question. That was 100+ years after the end of slavery.
I THINK anti-miscegenation(wrote it right? isn't it?) laws were a custom than a hard law at the time, yeah he marrying Sally would make him persona non grata among most racist whites but not illegal or a deal killerThat never happened in this timeline. Now Interracial marriage would be allowed earlier (SCOTUS would decide the issue far earlier) but I'm nowhere close to that point yet.
Not required to be allowed. Other states had allowed it before 1967. (Most of the remaining miscegination laws were in the South)Jefferson marrying Sally Hemmings would be a great step forward, but we should remember that interracial marriage was not allowed until the SCOTUS decided the issue in 1967, and Virginia was the offending state in question. That was 100+ years after the end of slavery.
Thank you for that info. I will tackle the "Advanced Civil Rights" issues after the 1840 chapter in more detail. There will definitely be allowance of interracial marriage far earlier but probably not as early as in Jefferson's time.Not required to be allowed. Other states had allowed it before 1967. (Most of the remaining miscegination laws were in the South)
I think most people took you literally that you wouldn't be posting till Monday so didn't reply but, while I'm here, of course the ubiquitous request for a map I wonder if the Spanish and British have some unfinished business because the Spanish would like to have gotten back Florida so the fires in the back might partly have been because the Spanish would be attacking the British in that area. That is something else to cover. Of course you might have mentioned that already in editing, I don't know.
And yes, I remember those days and College on the old Usenet News Group and it is very tempting to keep coming back and take study breaks.
Thank you for that info. I will tackle the "Advanced Civil Rights" issues after the 1840 chapter in more detail. There will definitely be allowance of interracial marriage far earlier but probably not as early as in Jefferson's time.
If the France update seems a bit short, I am also going to update the first two chapters a bit. The Jefferson Retrospective... that might take more time since I don't want to bungle the Jefferson chapter tbh.
White supremacist mentality didn't start in 1619 and decline over time. It actually became worse over time. The Revolutionary Era was early enough that this wouldn't be ASB territory - at that point in history you could still develop a three-tier caste system like the French colonies. The worst racism developed later as an attempt to justify slavery.
The Deep South wouldn't be Dixieland in TTL, at least not this early. The nickname originally belonged to New Orleans and hadn't been invented yet. After the Louisiana Purchase, bank notes were bilingual and the $10 notes said both "ten" and "dix". Dixie came from the notes being called "dixies".