Nintendo's New Groove: An Alternate Nintendo Timeline

[Deleted member 150598]

As you can see, Sega releases Sonic X-treme for the Sega Saturn. Here are some details.

First off, the storyline!:

As for the playable characters, they were Sonic the Hedgehog, Miles “Tails” Prower, Knuckles the Echidna, Amy Rose, Feel the Rabbit, Tiara Boobowski, Sally Acorn, and Bunnie Rabbot (The latter two are from the Sonic the Hedgehog anime (known as Project Sonic the Hedgehog (also known as Sonic and the Stories of Mobius outside of Japan)). Each one of them has their own ability.

As for the levels, here’s what they are.

1. Jade Gully (Reference: http://info.sonicretro.org/Jade_Gully) (Act 1 Boss: Fang the Sniper; Act 2 Boss: Metal Sonic Mk. I; Act 3 Boss: Orbotnik)
2. Crystal Frost (Reference: http://info.sonicretro.org/Crystal_Frost) (Act 1 Boss: Bean the Dynamite; Act 2 Boss: Metal Sonic Mk. II; Act 3 Boss: Frozebotnik)
3. Fat Tuesday (Reference: http://info.sonicretro.org/Sonic_Mars_levels#Fat_Tuesday) (Act 1 Boss: Tails Doll; Act 2 Boss: Metal Sonic Mk. III; Act 3 Boss: Beignetnik)
4. Red Sands (Reference: http://info.sonicretro.org/Red_Sands) (Act 1 Boss: Bark the Polar Bear; Act 2 Boss: Metal Sonic Mk. IV; Act 3 Boss: Guardian Sphinx)
5. Dream Wave (Reference: http://info.sonicretro.org/Sonic_Mars_levels#Dream_Wave) (Act 1 Boss: Air Hockey Match; Act 2 Boss: Boxing Match; Act 3 Boss: Trouble Cleff Trap)
6. Cryptic Grotto (Reference: http://info.sonicretro.org/Sonic_Mars_levels#Cryptic_Grotto) (Act 1 Boss: Metal Knuckles; Act 2 Boss: Metal Sonic Mk. V; Act 3 Boss: Octocknik)
7. Metal Blade (Reference: http://info.sonicretro.org/Other_Sonic_X-treme_levels#Metal_Blade) (Act 1 Boss: Emerald Cat; Act 2 Boss: Flame Falcon; Act 3 Boss: Mega Metal Sonic)
8. Galaxy Fortress/Death Egg (Reference: http://info.sonicretro.org/Galaxy_Fortress) (Act 1 Boss: Mecha Mite; Act 2 Boss: Darkpool Gorilla; Act 3 Boss: Dr. Robotnik; Final Boss: The Almighty Creator of the Worlds (SPOILER ALERT: He’s using Dr. Robotnik as his own minion, and after defeating Robotnik, the egg-shaped doctor betrays TACotW and it’s now time for the final battle between Sonic and the Almighty Creator of the Worlds) (He's also based off of the demon-like entity in the background from this Sonic 1 concept art))

Ever since it got released, Sonic X-treme has received some...average reviews. Critics find it pathetic, fans really enjoyed it, and the game has sold very well!

Also, in 1997, Sonic The Fighters managed to get a console port on the Sega Saturn (With an added feature of having Honey The Cat as a secret character).

And speaking of 1997, let’s get to what we have in store!

I hope there won't be any wars! Otherwise, it will make the Sonic fanbase toxic much earlier!

 

[MegaToon1234]

I hope there won't be any wars! Otherwise, it will make the Sonic fanbase toxic much earlier!

Let’s wait and see.

 

[Nivek]

Twelve Tails: Conker 64”, does not do so hot with the public. Despite its clear ambition and passion, many write it off as “another kiddy platformer from Rare” and most prefer Banjo over Conker, however, with a new game in the works that will…”remedy” the problem.

Suprise they launched it early, again with no space issues but seems market didn't liked it but that did planted the seeds for something bigger

 

[MegaToon1234]

Suprise they launched it early, again with no space issues but seems market didn't liked it but that did planted the seeds for something bigger

I see.

 

[MegaToon1234]

It’s the dawn of the new millennium, and the Nintendo Ultra-64 gets some releases such as Mario Party (where it’s a combination of OTL’s Mario Party 1 and 2), Donkey Kong 64, Custom Robo, Jet Force Gemini, Pokemon Snap, Mario Baseball Blitz (a Super Mario baseball game), Custom Robo, Shantae: Risky’s Revenge, Puyo Puyo~n, Wario Land 64 (a Wario Land game on the Nintendo Ultra-64 (with few elements from Wario World, despite Wario World will still exist like IOTL)), Final Fantasy Millenium (a side-series game taking place in the same world as the first three Final Fantasy games), Dragon Quest 64 (a side-series game taking place in an all-new different world from the Dragon Quest series), and a new Mario RPG game known as “Paper Mario”. It’s the same as it was IOTL, except with a few butterflies from previous Mario games. Also, since this Paper Mario universe is separate from the Super Mario universe, it even has the parallels of Bowser becoming the main bad guy in the first game!

Pokemon’s newest titles, Gold & Silver, launch for the Super Game Boy, being initially shown as Spaceworld, many of the designs from that build were kept intact, although some new designs are introduced since then. There’s also an additional legendary Pokemon never before seen IOTL, and it is known as “Omnipochamp”. Regardless, it is just as much a hit as the first games.

Speaking of the Super Game Boy, some of the releases for this system are Mario Golf, Fire Emblem: Thracia 776, and Super Mario Bros. 2 Deluxe (A remaster of the SMAS remake of Super Mario Bros. 2: The Legend of the Warp Zone). And also a GBA port of Super Mario: Lost in Subcon.

Nintendo All-Stars Present: Super Smash Bros.
So, are you ready for the most ambitious crossover of all time?​

That’s right! Nintendo and HAL Labs bring Super Smash Bros. to the Nintendo Ultra-64! Super Smash Bros. is a brand new platform-styled fighting game with 10 Nintendo all-stars, along with 6 more fighters to boot!

Of course, Smash’s roster is definitely an important part to mention, so here is the roster for the first game in the series.

The starters are Mario (Super Mario), Donkey Kong, Bowser (BowserQuest), Link (The Legend of Zelda), Samus (Metroid), Captain Falcon (F-Zero), Yoshi (Yoshi’s Island), Kirby, Fox McCloud (Star Fox), and Pikachu (Pokemon). The unlockable fighters are Luigi (Super Mario), Ness (Earthbound), King Dedede (Kirby), Marth (Fire Emblem), Eevee (Pokemon), and Mewtwo (Pokemon).​

Jigglypuff (from the Pokemon series) never showed up as a fighter ITTL, probably because it has minor appearances in the Pokemon anime ITTL. Eevee was Jigglypuff’s stand-in for this timeline’s roster. There are ten stages (each represented by the starter fighters’ franchises) and one unlockable stage (which is based off of the first Super Mario Bros. game). Also, the 1P Mode is the same as it was IOTL, going from facing against Link to going against Master Hand, but with the two additional rounds along the way. Regardless, it has been a smash hit! Hopefully it’ll lead to more Super Smash Bros. games along the way!

 

[Deleted member 150598]

It’s the dawn of the new millennium, and the Nintendo Ultra-64 gets some releases such as Mario Party (where it’s a combination of OTL’s Mario Party 1 and 2), Donkey Kong 64, Custom Robo, Jet Force Gemini, Pokemon Snap, Mario Baseball Blitz (a Super Mario baseball game), Custom Robo, Shantae: Risky’s Revenge, Puyo Puyo~n, Wario Land 64 (a Wario Land game on the Nintendo Ultra-64 (with few elements from Wario World, despite Wario World will still exist like IOTL)), Final Fantasy Millenium (a side-series game taking place in the same world as the first three Final Fantasy games), Dragon Quest 64 (a side-series game taking place in an all-new different world from the Dragon Quest series), and a new Mario RPG game known as “Paper Mario”. It’s the same as it was IOTL, except with a few butterflies from previous Mario games. Also, since this Paper Mario universe is separate from the Super Mario universe, it even has the parallels of Bowser becoming the main bad guy in the first game!

Pokemon’s newest titles, Gold & Silver, launch for the Super Game Boy, being initially shown as Spaceworld, many of the designs from that build were kept intact, although some new designs are introduced since then. There’s also an additional legendary Pokemon never before seen IOTL, and it is known as “Omnipochamp”. Regardless, it is just as much a hit as the first games.

Speaking of the Super Game Boy, some of the releases for this system are Mario Golf, Fire Emblem: Thracia 776, and Super Mario Bros. 2 Deluxe (A remaster of the SMAS remake of Super Mario Bros. 2: The Legend of the Warp Zone). And also a GBA port of Super Mario: Lost in Subcon.

Nintendo All-Stars Present: Super Smash Bros.
So, are you ready for the most ambitious crossover of all time?​

That’s right! Nintendo and HAL Labs bring Super Smash Bros. to the Nintendo Ultra-64! Super Smash Bros. is a brand new platform-styled fighting game with 10 Nintendo all-stars, along with 6 more fighters to boot!

Of course, Smash’s roster is definitely an important part to mention, so here is the roster for the first game in the series.

The starters are Mario (Super Mario), Donkey Kong, Bowser (BowserQuest), Link (The Legend of Zelda), Samus (Metroid), Captain Falcon (F-Zero), Yoshi (Yoshi’s Island), Kirby, Fox McCloud (Star Fox), and Pikachu (Pokemon). The unlockable fighters are Luigi (Super Mario), Ness (Earthbound), King Dedede (Kirby), Marth (Fire Emblem), Eevee (Pokemon), and Mewtwo (Pokemon).​

Jigglypuff (from the Pokemon series) never showed up as a fighter ITTL, probably because it has minor appearances in the Pokemon anime ITTL. Eevee was Jigglypuff’s stand-in for this timeline’s roster. There are ten stages (each represented by the starter fighters’ franchises) and one unlockable stage (which is based off of the first Super Mario Bros. game). Also, the 1P Mode is the same as it was IOTL, going from facing against Link to going against Master Hand, but with the two additional rounds along the way. Regardless, it has been a smash hit! Hopefully it’ll lead to more Super Smash Bros. games along the way!

Why not Sukapon from Joy Mech Fight?

 

[MegaToon1234]

Why not Sukapon from Joy Mech Fight?

I’ll add him in to Melee.

 

[Deleted member 150598]

I’ll add him in to Melee.

Oh, sure. Do that.

 

[Deleted member 150598]

Where is Super Mario Bros. 5: Battle for the Mushroom Kingdom?

 

[MegaToon1234]

E3 2000 is a pretty big time for Nintendo, with the reveal of their next console, the Nintendo Vortex (which is what the Nintendo Gamecube is known as ITTL). Being co-developed by Panasonic, the system will have full DVD capabilities, rather than the Ultra-64’s mini-disc formats, and will have a DVD player controllable by a regular controller. Online functions are also confirmed, albeit only being compatible with certain games, rather than the console itself, and said functions will not be available at launch.

So far, the games released for the Nintendo Ultra-64 are Banjo-Tooie, Excitebike 64, The Legend of Zelda: Majora’s Mask, Mario Tennis, Kirby 64: The Crystal Shards, Pokemon Puzzle League (based off of Panel De Pon 64 (which was released in Japan)), SimCity 64, Sin & Punishment, Rayman 2: The Great Escape (which I know it was released in 1999, but I forgot to add it to the 1999 section), Koro Strike!, BowserQuest: Year of the Dragon (where it’s about Bowser and the others going against twelve powerful Koopa champions), Mario Party 2, Mega Man Legends 2, Super Mario: Lost in Subcon Again (which is a sequel to Super Mario: Lost in Subcon), Colorblends Millenium (a new installment of the Colorblends series), and other games to boot.

Also, the games released for the Super Game Boy are Card Hero: Trade & Battle, Kirby Tilt n’ Tumble, F-Zero: Maximum Velocity, The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Ages and Oracle of Seasons, Pokemon Bronze (known as Pokemon Crystal IOTL), Mario Kart: Super Circuit, Wario Land 3, Castlevania: Simon’s Return (which goes back to the platforming roots), Super Mario Land Nova (which is probably based off of Super Mario Land 2.5 (a Super Mario World ROM hack from OTL)), and other games to boot.

Now here are a few games to point out.

• Mario Party 2 - The familiar party game returns. It features nine boards and plenty of mini-games, and, like OTL's Mario Party 3, introduces a Story Mode to the series (though with a different plotline from OTL's Mario Party 2: it introduces Koopetitor, an overly competitive Koopa who serves as the mode's antagonist, actively cheating to make things different for the player). It's favorably received like the previous Mario Party game, and its status as a fun multiplayer title makes it a solid seller.
• Super Mario: Lost in Subcon Again - A sequel to Super Mario: Lost in Subcon is made for the Nintendo 64, where it incorporates 3D elements to the Doki-Doki Panic gameplay, and a story where we found out that Wart is not a figment of Mario's dreams, but rather a real person.
• Mario Kart: Super Circuit - Everything’s the same from OTL, but there are some differences from OTL. The racers you start off with are Mario, Luigi, Princess Peach, Toad, Yoshi, Donkey Kong, Wario, and Bowser. The unlockable racers included are Princess Daisy, Waluigi, Koopa Troopa, and Wart. Some of the courses are renamed (Riverside Park is renamed to Waterfall Park, Bowser Castle 1 is renamed to Thwomp Fortress, Bowser Castle 2 is renamed to Lava Dungeon, Snow Land is renamed to Chilly Snowland, Bowser Castle 3 is renamed to Chaos Castle, Lakeside Park is renamed to Volcanic Island, and Bowser Castle 4 is renamed to Metallic Stronghold), the items from Mario Kart Rendered are carried over to this game ITTL, and a few changes are shown.

Also, on Sega’s side, a sequel to Sonic The Fighter is released on the Arcades and Dreamcast (Imagine it to be like a upgraded, better and slightly bigger version of Sonic The Fighter, with the returning characters keeping their classic looks or at least have modernized (at the time) versions of their classic looks, with the new characters who debuted in this game will have looks replicated to the classic looks.)

Here’s what the sequel to Sonic the Fighters is like.: https://docs.google.com/document/d/10zWYuiocj0aE1VGqQ4aivUf--ck9ZTj2epsefYvZVd4/edit?usp=sharing

And speaking of Sega, wait until 2001 for a big game changer for Nintendo and Sega!

 

[Nivek]

nd speaking of Sega, wait until 2001 for a big game changer for Nintendo and Sega!

Seems Sony is so Sidelined not even warrant a mention....not bad

 

[MegaToon1234]

Seems Sony is so Sidelined not even warrant a mention....not bad

Yeah!

 

[MegaToon1234]

In a shocking turn of events, after Sega’s Dreamcast is officially discontinued and abandoned by Sega, NINTENDO of all companies comes in and tries to remedy the situation, by setting up a deal for them to work as partners, with Nintendo gaining exclusivity and publishing rights, with Sega now acting as a second-party developer.

Speaking of which, the Nintendo Vortex launches with a plethora of exciting launch titles, including Luigi’s first Nintendo-developed solo game (aside from “Luigi’s Adventure: Mario is Missing!” on the SANAVS), Dark Cloud, the first title developed by Nintendo’s latest second-party partner Level-5, and three games from Sega.

The Nintendo Ultra-64 is still kicking, with Rare bringing two new games (which are Conker’s Bad Fur Day and Dinosaur Planet (which is technically a Star Fox spin-off), alongside a new Nintendo IP, Welcome to Animal Crossing (which is what Animal Forest is known as outside of Japan). Along with that, other games released for the Nintendo Ultra-64 are Mario Party 3, Pokemon Stadium 2, and Custom Robo Ver. 2.

Also, for the Super Game Boy, notable releases for this system were Metroid: Zero Mission, Golden Sun, The Legendary Starfy, Super Wars (known as Advance Wars IOTL), Super Mario Bros. 3 Deluxe (which is a remaster of Super Mario World: Super Mario Bros. 3), a sequel to Mole Mania, and Wario Land 4.

Also, let’s get to the Nintendo Vortex!

The Nintendo Vortex

The Nintendo Vortex
Released in: September 14, 2001 (in Japan); November 18, 2001 (in North America)​

Behold! As I bring you the Nintendo Vortex! It was known as the Nintendo Gamecube IOTL, BTW. It has full DVD capabilities, rather than the Ultra-64’s mini-disc formats, and has a DVD player controllable by a regular controller. Also, let’s get to the launch titles for this system!

1. Luigi’s Mansion
2. Pikmin
3. Wave Race: Blue Storm
4. Sonic Adventure 2 Battle
5. Super Monkey Ball
6. Crazy Taxi
7. Dark Cloud
8. Star Wars Rogue Squadron II: Rogue Leader
9. Klonoa 2: Lunatea’s Veil
10. Grand Theft Auto III
11. All-Star Baseball 2002
12. Madden 2002
13. Batman Vengeance
14. Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater 3
15. Dave Mirra Freestyle BMX 2

There’s way more launch titles than that, but that’s all I can insert.

The Nintendo Vortex was released in four colors: Indigo, Black, Orange, and Silver. Silver is the original color seen in advertisements, the trophy in Super Smash Bros. Melee (which wouldn’t come out until 2003), and other places.

Let’s see how the next year for the Nintendo Vortex is gonna fare, shall we?

 

[Nivek]

n a shocking turn of events, after Sega’s Dreamcast is officially discontinued and abandoned by Sega, NINTENDO of all companies comes in and tries to remedy the situation, by setting up a deal for them to work as partners, with Nintendo gaining exclusivity and publishing rights, with Sega now acting as a second-party developer.

WTF, i'm surprised, what SEGA did now to throw out the towel? they fucked up with the saturn regardless of butterflies?(SEGA issues were internal but i though they would keep their shit together ITTL) Just woah..say about blind leadership

 

[MegaToon1234]

WTF, i'm surprised, what SEGA did now to throw out the towel? they fucked up with the saturn regardless of butterflies?(SEGA issues were internal but i though they would keep their shit together ITTL) Just woah..say about blind leadership

Are you sure?

 

[Nivek]

Are you sure?

Yeah, Sega issues were trying to jump the Gun over anyone and not having an organize strategy among branches... again maybe i'm selling short the incompetence of sega executives , they would screw up the golden goose in 99% of all TL...

 

[MegaToon1234]

Yeah, Sega issues were trying to jump the Gun over anyone and not having an organize strategy among branches... again maybe i'm selling short the incompetence of sega executives , they would screw up the golden goose in 99% of all TL...

Huh, well, this timeline here gets really confusing sometimes, so...

 

[MegaToon1234]

With Sega’s development team on Nintendo’s side, the Nintendo Vortex’s list of exclusives explodes, with sequels to Jet Set Radio, Space Channel 5, Ristar, and Panzer Dragoon hitting the system, along with a collection of classic Sonic games from the Genesis era. Rare releases their first Vortex title, Donkey Kong: Jungle Rush, originally titled as “Donkey Kong Racing”, and Nintendo’s newest first-party developer, Retro Studios, brings in a new IP, Raven Blade, and a refresh of the Metroid series, Metroid Prime.

Speaking of Rare, Microsoft is looking to purchase the company in full, making them develop exclusively for their Xbox platform. Nintendo, not wanting to lose their biggest partner, jumps in and buys them out before Microsoft has a chance, officially making Rare first-party.

Also, what has been released for the Nintendo Vortex are Mario Party 4, Phantasy Star Online, The House of the Dead III, Super Mario Sunshine (which has some differences from OTL, such as more courses, an additional final boss where you fight against a gigantic Shadow Mario, and other additional changes), BowserQuest: The 128 Tasks (A sequel to BowserQuest: The 64 Tasks, where the story of the game is about Bowser and his crew going through the 128 tasks set by the Sinister Sorceress. The 128 tasks can be done in sixteen different worlds, each one of the worlds having eight tasks each), and Dinosaur Planet 2: Star Fox Adventures (a sequel to Dinosaur Planet where it focuses on the Star Fox characters (P.S.: It’s like OTL’s Star Fox Adventures). Whereas the Super Game Boy’s releases are The Legendary Starfy 2, Fire Emblem: The Binding Blade, Metroid Fusion, Kirby: Nightmare in Dreamland (a remake of Kirby’s Adventure on the ANAVS), Sonic Neo (known as Sonic Advance IOTL), Tomato Adventure, and a port of Yoshi’s Island: A Super Mario Story.

Hey! Can we go do things off-topic for the fourth time? No? Then let’s do it anyway!

• Puyo Pop (which is on the Game Boy Advance IOTL) gets a multiplatform release where it was released by Universal Interactive Studios (and by Sega for the Nintendo Vortex and the Super Game Boy). (Reference: https://ficreation.miraheze.org/wiki/Puyo_Pop_(video_game))
• The Ripping Friends (which is a show that aired in 2001) airs on Adult Swim earlier.
• There is a Tom Sawyer movie adaptation that came out in 2003 where Owen Wilson voices Tom Sawyer and Tom Kenny voices Huckleberry Finn.
• Fox Kids doesn't close down, which then becomes a 24/7 channel.
• Invader Zim never got cancelled.
• Hey Arnold! The Jungle Movie never got put on hiatus, as it got released on time!
• Spongebob Squarepants ends after the release of the movie (which was released in 2004), though it comes back in 2015 after the release of the sequel with Stephen Hillenburg returning. But many longer episodes like Atlantis Squarepantis are better written and serve as specials until Stephen Hillenberg returns in 2012.
• My Dad the Rock Star and Skyland aired on Cartoon Network instead of Nickelodeon.
• Coconut Fred's Fruit Salad Island was made into a CGI TV movie instead, with a completely different premise.
• Universal Pictures localizes the Magic Roundabout movie, which has the original script left intact, albeit with a few words changed to fit with the American audiences.
• The Cat in the Hat (2003) is released as an animated film rather than a live-action one.
• Autism Speaks was never founded.
• Andrew Wakefield's study was never published and he was arrested for life. Thus, ''Vaxxed'' doesn't exist, and consequently ''Vaxxed 2'' doesn't either.

Man, that’s a lot. Now, let’s get to 2003, and we’re going...online!

 

[FireDragon845]

Invader Zim never got cancelled

OH HELL YEAH!

 

[Nivek]

Man, that’s a lot. Now, let’s get to 2003, and we’re going...online!

Before that you could give us information about Sony and Microsoft them...