Keynes' Cruisers Volume 2

Status
Not open for further replies.
Please go look at the map https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/keynes-cruisers-volume-2.451883/page-39#post-17893788 and note how I've described locations for other forces so far...

Admiral in charge of Allied BBs: "Ensign - fetch my Red jacket"

Ensign: "Sir? May I ask why?"

Admiral in charge of Allied BBs: "If I am wounded during battle the men may not see the blood of my wounds and so will be less likely to panic or be distracted"

The two mighty battleships are Yamato and Mushashi

Admiral in charge of Allied BBs: "Ahhh...Ensign...fetch my brown trousers...."
 
Story 1759
Makassar Straits 0917 January 2, 1943


Black-23 and Black-24 weaved back and forth. The two dive bombers had another eight miles on their search leg. Half a dozen pairs of dive bombers had already completed their searches and now they were moving to intercept the Japanese fleet that had been found fifty miles to the east southeast. Radio chatter from the south indicated that over two hundred strikers were forming up to knock out the Japanese main body. A few more minutes and they would join the attacks.


The observer/gunner in Black-24 squinted and willed his vision to pierce the underlying clouds. Something was down there and he told his pilot to take a good look too. As they continued to edge north, the clouds thinned. Thirty seconds later, they were seeing through clouds that were thinner than the fine silk fancies. It was thick enough to claim coverage, thin enough to be translucent.


“One, two, three… no four…. Carriers… get this out….”


The gunner/observer/radio operator focused on only being a radio operator as he slammed the key with critical information.


“4 CV 15 ships 1 S 118 E Speed 22 course 160”


He repeated that four times. The radio operator aboard Black 23 repeated the message as well.


12,000 feet below them and 6 miles away, the carrier Hiryu was getting ready for a deck load strike. Nine Zeroes were lined up first. Three would replace the morning combat air patrol. Six were destined to cover the forward force of two battle cruisers and a coterie of heavy cruisers. That force was attracting attention and needed its defenses thickened. After the fighters were up in the air, a forty plane strike was armed and fueled. They would finish off the American landing party. The other four carriers were still landing their very successful morning strikes. They would be recycling the combat air patrols while the bomber crews had a chance to eat, debrief and then wait for another sighting report before striking again this afternoon.


A look-out screamed: “HELL DIVERS”


No anti-aircraft guns barked as the carrier began to dodge. A Zero was flung off the edge of the deck and the pilot barely recovered in time to stay airborne. Launch operations halted and men scrambled to put chocks back underneath wheels to hold some of the fighters in place for the next three minutes.


Twelve seconds after the first warning was shouted, the first 25 millimeter anti-aircraft gun started to fire. It was being aimed manually and the first few rounds were wildly off. The two dive bombers continued their almost unmolested descent. The pilots grunted against the G-forces and struggled to become one with their bombsights. The large red meatball on the deck of their target was a natural aim point and they focused every inch of their being on it.


At 1,500 feet Black-23 released his bomb. Eight hundred feet behind him, Black-24 was hit. Half a dozen shells punched through the engine. Flames were started. Heat enveloped the cockpit. He still descended even as he knew that he would never be able to land aboard the Saratoga. A few more seconds and Black-24 released his bomb. The streamlined weapon fell but the bomber never pulled up. The observer in back never knew what was happening.


A moment before Black-24 crashed into the deck of Hiryu, Black-23’s general purpose bomb punched through the flight deck feet from the middle group of arrester wires. It exploded next to half a dozen fueled and armed dive bombers. Black-24’s bomb punched through the elevator and exploded in the hanger deck while the dive bomber splattered itself feet from the oddly placed island. Burning fuel spread quickly on the island, killing most of the admiral’s staff and incapacitating almost everyone on the bridge.


Black-23’s gunner was scanning the sky for the riposte he expected. The bomber was at maximum throttle and running for the south one hundred feet above the sea. Five minutes later, the gunner fully breathed for the first time and dashed out another contact report.
 
Last edited:
I suggest you consider the Shokaku at Coral Sea AND Cape Egano
or Ziukaku at the Philippine Sea

(Indeed the efforts to save Akagi at Midway)

Compared to the USN the IJN is rather distinctly lacking in that area. A few superhuman efforts does not overturn the general incompetence overall in the field of damage control.
 

Driftless

Donor
It's not sunk yet, but burning and exploding planes on deck and below certainly sounds like she's doomed.... The timing of the attack also takes most of her planes and pilots out of the fight too.
 
The Japanese will be ecstatic. Probably claiming three fleet carriers, a fast battleship and several cruisers damaged
Hopefully the allied response will be awesome, waiting with anticipation

You're probably not wrong and basically the IJN has just done what the USN did at Coral Sea, expended the vast majority of its initial attack against a small target and whilst the losses are painful, they are basically sacrificial ships that the Allies would happily trade instead of that big attack hitting them and now the IJN's thrown its punch with the Allies landing a counter attack with its scout planes.
 
Story 1760
Makassar Straits 0919 January 2, 1943

Another bomb ripped into the heavy cruiser Furataka. This was the eleventh pair of dive bombers attacking the surface action group. Zeroes had managed to shoot down four of the armed scouts. Rear gunners claimed one fighter and Black-08's pilot managed to line up his fixed guns to rip open the belly of an overly aggressive defender. The twenty two bombers had attacked three targets. The battleship Haruna had been hit once. She lost no speed and almost no combat power. A small fire destroyed a pair of ships boats and shrapnel wounded most of an anti-aircraft mount's crew. The heavy cruiser Atago had dodged the five bombs dropped on her. One near miss might require a few days in the yard to repair minor leaks and popped seams.

The small heavy cruiser Furataka had just absorbed her third hit. One was nearly harmless, clipping off her bow. The second bomb opened up B turret's roof. The cruiser's magazine armor worked well enough as the bomb failed to penetrate that single point of failure but now the cruiser was down a third of her firepower. The most recent bomb punched through the thin deck armor forty feet from her screws. It burst feet from the steering room. The cruiser went from dodging the bombers at an ever changing acceleration and spinning to slowing suddenly and beginning a wild circle of the rest of the task force.

Two more dive bombers from USS Saratoga nosed over from 14,000 feet and descending in seventy five degree dives. They lofted their bombs at the now predictable target. One missed by thirty yards. The last bomb from the armed recon squadrons awled its way into the forward engine room before detonating. The cruiser stopped in the water. A destroyer soon tied up to render assistance to the fire fighting and repair crews even as everyone waited for more air attacks.
 
Last edited:
Story 1761
Southern Makassar Straits, 0938 January 2, 1943

Aboard three carriers, three admirals swore.

Almost two hundred aircraft were heading north by northeast. The scouts had claimed a battleship dead in the water and several ships damaged. The waves of attackers that were on their way would finish off this group.

Black-23 and Black-24 reports had just arrived. At least four carriers further to the north and west of the attack nexus were being reported. Black-23 was claiming a carrier severely damaged from their attacks. Charts were quickly pulled out and rapid discussions with the aviators still aboard the carriers were held. All three admirals were told bluntly that the already airborne strike either could not or should not be diverted. The fighters were already at the edge of their effective combat range and any semblance of coherence would be broken up as some squadrons got the message to go northwest instead of north while other air groups continued north. They could be recalled or they could continue.

Admiral Somerville had to make the decision and nine minutes after the receipt of the first report from Black-23, he sent a short message to the American carrier commanders --- the attack would continue on the previously planned target. All ships should prepare to receive an air attack. Once the strike landed, the fast carrier force and the battle line would head north at twenty five knots to go carrier hunting. It might not have been the optimal decision, it may have been the best choice; but it was a clear choice. The attack would go in against a now known to be secondary target.
 
Yes, it tarnishes the whole idea of Jeep carriers. People will say "Totally Bogue-ous, dude"
I disagree. The Jeep carriers are supposed to be secondary and tertiary units. When they get hit with the enemy's first team, they are in trouble. The problem was their placement. They probably were 30 miles too far north.
 
Yes, it tarnishes the whole idea of Jeep carriers. People will say "Totally Bogue-ous, dude"
As first line units, as Fester said above, yeah they are completely out of their depth.

And plus they were out of position so the US commanders would probably use that as a "reason" as to why they got destroyed pretty badly.
 
Southern Makassar Straits, 0938 January 2, 1943

Aboard three carriers, three admirals swore.

Almost two hundred aircraft were heading north by northeast. The scouts had claimed a battleship dead in the water and several ships damaged. The waves of attackers that were on their way would finish off this group.

Black-23 and Black-24 reports had just arrived. At least four carriers further to the north and west of the attack nexus were being reported. Black-23 was claiming a carrier severely damaged from their attacks. Charts were quickly pulled out and rapid discussions with the aviators still aboard the carriers were held. All three admirals were told bluntly that the already airborne strike either could not or should not be diverted. The fighters were already at the edge of their effective combat range and any semblance of coherence would be broken up as some squadrons got the message to go northwest instead of north while other air groups continued north. They could be recalled or they could continue.

Admiral Somerville had to make the decision and nine minutes after the receipt of the first report from Black-23, he sent a short message to the American carrier commanders --- the attack would continue on the previously planned target. All ships should prepare to receive an air attack. Once the strike landed, the fast carrier force and the battle line would head north at twenty five knots to go carrier hunting. It might not have been the optimal decision, it may have been the best choice; but it was a clear choice. The attack would go in against a now known to be secondary target.

A tough decision - but to try and change tagets now invites Murphy - but any further attack from the IJN flat tops should be delayed due to the need to replace the CAP during successive waves of Saratogas Scouts attacking - so that might buy the allies an hour or more.

Still Sommerville has his own FAA strike aircraft kept back in reserve
 
A tough decision - but to try and change tagets now invites Murphy - but any further attack from the IJN flat tops should be delayed due to the need to replace the CAP during successive waves of Saratogas Scouts attacking - so that might buy the allies an hour or more.

Still Sommerville has his own FAA strike aircraft kept back in reserve

Right now the reserve that Sommerville has is ~20 Albacores aboard Victorious, all of Lexington and then Saratoga's Avenger squadron. He has a good size fighter complement that he wants to hold tight for fleet defense.

He is playing for a mid-afternoon carrier battle.
 
Story 1762
Southern Makassar Strait, 1000 January 2, 1943

USS Washington led the battle line forward. Two American battleships followed her. Three British battleships parrelleled their more heavily armed but slightly slower American compatriots. Six cruisers and twelve destroyers had detached themselves from the battle line to reinforce the carrier screens. Nine cruisers in three divisions along with a bakers dozen destroyers were spreading out to cover the battleships. The battle fleet was being offered as a briar patch for the expected air strikes. They would be kept twenty miles up threat to absorb and divert Japanese air attacks.

HMS Fiji was the fighter control ship for the battle line once fighters were released to cover the battleships. Controllers had plenty of experience working with the Far Eastern Fleet and some experience in training exercises working with the US Pacific Fleet. They had a shared language and shared expectations now. The fighters from Enterprise truly understood what the controllers were thinking while Saratoga's squadrons only understood what they were told. More time to train would have been preferred, but Fiji was confident that they could do their job.
 
Last edited:
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top