hmm, looks a bit Hungarian to me, i dont know why?So a shorter inverted British Republic Flag?
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Currently about 2/3 down this forum. Certainly not dead. At least to those not abusing it.
They wanted to show more unity with their Commonwealth brethren, but they didn't want to ditch the Maple Leaf, so they compromised
That's a great flag and a cool backstory. What is the symbol derived from?
Cool. I always liked the Red Ensign, though. Looks very sharp.
She described Putin as a 'defender of the Christian heritage of European civilisation' in a positive light so I just assumed she believed in preserving Christian values in France.
Crossposting my Weekly Flag Challenge entry:
New Aventine Republic
Senatus Populusque Nova Aventinus
"The discovery of Senicommia and Tupia[1] in 1038 caused major changes in the world. Suddenly, the Roman Empire had a whole new world to explore and conquer. The Tetrarchy was unsure how to proceed, as they certainly knew that such a place would open many opportunities for whoever held it, and ownership of what they believed was a small continent would mean quick trade with the Far East, a feat that required either circumventing Magna Africa or braving the yet unconquered hordes of nomadic raiders that dotted the steps. Or they could trade with Arasharian[2] merchants, who, acting as middlemen, sold even ordinary goods for ludicrous prices. Furthermore, the Caesarii were more than happy to push the boundaries of Rome, now solidified for centuries, even further, as they naturally would be granted dominion over such lands. More specifically, Iulius Callus Germanicus was certain that these new western lands would go to him, the Caesar Occidentalis, who had grown quite sick of ruling only Britannia and Hibernia, while Lucius Veris Argentis, the Caesar Orientalis, was certain that an influx of resources from controlling such lands would mean the strength to invade and conquer the steppes or even Aransharia. Both Augustii in Rome[3], however, looked beyond personal politics, and instead to those of the imperium itself. Since the Chemical Revolution of two centuries prior, knowledge had been growing, and with it, medicine. Early antibiotics were coming into play, and new surgical tools and techniques meant that more and more injuries were survivable. All of that meant that populations were rising, and with them tensions. While the most infamous of these groups is the Gracchi Movement, numerous other dissidents, minority faiths, and political rivals soon found themselves travelling to the newest lands of the eternal Roman Empire, voluntarily or not..."
- The Settling of the West, Cassius Sulla Lucius Argentius, 1706 PB[4]
"Now, plenty of us would state that sending a bunch of radicals, minorities, and rebels to all meet and fornicate together is probably not the best idea. But then, we men of the present have the glorious gift of hindsight, while the men of the past do not. Still, some would argue that the plan of the tetrarchy was to create a foreign state where their enemies would bicker and backstab themselves into pacification, eventually forming the backbone of a new Roman civilization. But in reality it was just a matter of who they felt they could punish, using the foreign climates, natives, and lack of amenities as a threat to any who would make themselves a foe of the leadership. From this, perhaps, comes the Aventine belief in equality. From Nazarenes[5] to Druids, from Alans to Nordens, from patrician to plebeian, anyone could be sent off for their crimes, and a great many simply chose to seek adventure, freedom, and wealth in the growing settlements that dotted the eastern coast of Senicommia. All arrived to found an unforgiving land, all had to work and earn their keep, had to use their skills for the good of the colony. It was common at the time to say that Senicommia was the Godless Land. But it was also the Rulerless Land. Even those in administration, the quaestors and aediles, who would eventually become elected magistrum due to the simple amount of appointed officials that died not long after arrival, were seen as simply members of the colony with the specific task of governing. Smiths, soldiers, butchers, hunters, and even prostitutes were seen with the same amount of respect (in some townships the latter most had even more), providing a service that was necessary for the sanity and safety of the colony."
- A Whole New World, Marcus Bulibus, 1689 PB
"We are ruled by men who sit upon thrones an ocean away. We are restricted in our speech by the same, despite that we now live in safety. We are denied citizenship, despite generations of loyalty and service to Roma. We are forced to watch our churches burn regardless of the papers proclaiming our right to believe as we wish. We are made to give tax and grain due to laws made by men who have never seen our land, never seen how much we need or how much we have. We are made to march to war against those with which we are friends. We are without voice, without advocate, and often without even consideration by the Senators and Imperators alike. And no, we are choosing to leave such oppression, and we will do so peacefully and with the possibility of friendship if we are allowed. But if our former rulers would attempt to hold us, to hold tight to the serpent of Nova Aventinia, despite that we now rattle our tail in warning, they will find us not only slipping through their grip, but sinking our fangs into their hands."
- Declaration and Warning of Autonomy and Sovereignty, 1351 PB
"...The eagle with it wings stretch heavensward, encircled by a triumphant wreath, clutching Jupiter's lightning, SPQR written beneath, all on a red field is in the modern age a well known symbol. But the concept of a national vexillum, however, is actually an Arasharian idea, with their square banners that fly horizontally off a pole first being held by rebellions against the ruling Kurashinid family. In the imperium, vexillum were more decorative or for military use, and even then it was the standard's physical holding, the aquila, that was considered more important, though today they are held together. Looking to the Arasharians, who used a singular cloth to act as a rallying point for their fracturing nation, the Romans did similarly in the Second Great Civil War, crafting the well known symbol of today from motifs of the military..."
- A History of Flags Around the World, Tiberius Nerva, 1709 PB
"The national vexillum of the New Aventine Republic was meant to be a sort of spit in the face to the government in Rome. Drawing from their name, and aware of the Aventine Hill's history, and not just with plebeian uprisings, their banner has six birds prominently displayed, a reference to those seen by the augurs of Remus. Romulus, of course, saw twelve birds later, but though the concept of "later and greater" might have been more applicable, Romulus was the founder of Rome, and so using Remus' number along with the name of his hill that the Romans had granted to them, served their propaganda better. SPQNA, the initials of the state, were then put above the central symbol, rather than below as it is on the Roman national vexillum, to symbolize that this new republic would put its people and their liberty above its own glory and power. There is also the predominant color, black. Given that purely white fabrics were not only expensive, but would easily become dirty, black and brown were more utilitarian colors for the toga and tunics of the colonies. With the careful breeding of ovis niger by colonial merchants for such purposes (as dyes were kept expensive to make colors more restricted to the upper echelons of Rome), such fabrics became standard, and small flairs of color were worn by colonial elite (as few as their were) but black still being predominant. From here we see black become the color of colonists, and once this idea crept back to Europa, the color of the plebeians. Making a vexillum of this color not only shows the nation's loyalty solely to its colonial population, but also to the idea resisting oppression from upper classes...
"...The rattling serpent became a popular animal associated with Senicommia, and later New Aventinia. It was then an easy animal for the young republic to choose as its identifier, and so had the eagles of their aquila removed and replaced with replications of the famed creature, hence why New Aventine standardbearers are called anguis, and not aquila."
- An Encyclopedia of Culture, Chuang Yue, 1707 PB
[1] - North and South America, respectively, named for the first tribes the Romans encountered
[2] - Iran/Persia
[3] - The idea of abandoning Rome was quickly done away with, but both Augustii still administer separate halves of the Empire, a vertical line through Rome acting as the divider, known as the acies terra separator.
[4] - PB means Post Bellum, which is the end of the Great Civil War, which ends in AD 308.
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