Die Alte Welt Hat Überlebt- A Central Powers Victory Collaborative Timeline

How many civil wars should Russia have?


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KaiserEmu's idea for the timeline
  • This is what I've cobbled together as a timeline from 1917 to 1938. While I've tried to account for as much as I can, I still believe it's incomplete (what happens in Asia in the 30s, for example? What's happening in Britain and America?).

    World War I


    • February 1917: Germany does not reintroduce unrestricted submarine warfare; America never enters the war. The tsar is deposed in Russia as per OTL.
    • October 1917: The Bolsheviks come to power in Russia; they seek and obtain an armistice with Germany.
    • November 1917: With a bad harvest and little will left to fight, French soldiers mutiny en masse.
    • December 1917: The Christmas Revolution in France sees much of Paris fall to a revived Commune. As uprisings spread and under pressure from the rebels and mutineers, the French government seeks an armistice with Germany.
    • February 1918: King George V dies at the hands of a union activist. Widespread strikes and riots force significant portions of the army to be recalled to maintain order. An anti-union movement begins among the returning soldiers, who eventually suppress the “Red Spring” by May.
    • April 1918: Russian revolutionaries conclude the Treaty of Vilnius, with Poland, Lithuania, the United Baltic Duchy, Belarus, Ukraine, Crimea and Kuban becoming independent under varying levels of German influence. Montana, Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaijan, and Dagestan become independent under Ottoman influence.
    • May 1918: Without much hope after France’s surrender and troubled by internal instability, Britain also seeks peace; Belgium, now effectively abandoned, follows suit.
    • June 1918: The French Fourth Republic is proclaimed, adopting a constitution on socialist principles.
    • August 1918: The Treaty of Strasbourg ends the war on the Western Front with German annexation of the French departments of Meurthe-et-Moselle, Belfort and parts of Vosges; the entire nation of Luxembourg, and the Belgian provinces of Liège and Luxembourg. Significant colonial concessions are also obtained, resulting in the creation of German Central Africa.

    Four years after it began, World War I is over. The Central Powers have won, but the world is far from at peace.

    1920s

    • German puppet governments in Eastern Europe stabilise, mostly under German nobility and semi-authoritarian governments.
    • France falls into all-out civil war; while the socialists have secured much of the north and left-wing strongholds like Toulouse, much of the countryside remains under government control.
    • Under the leadership of Chancellor von Hindenburg, Germany cements its place in the post-war order. After seizing a vast colonial empire from the allies, he turns his attention to developing Germany’s spheres of influence in Eastern Europe, Africa and East Asia.
    • February 1919: Belarus’ regime falls to Bolshevik revolutionaries, backed by Moscow. In order to maintain influence there, Lithuania and Poland (backed by Germany) invade; citing historical ties, the Confederation of Lithuania and Belarus is created.
    • May 1919: The (hitherto) Russian Far East asserts their independence as the Siberian Confederation; despite the ongoing civil war, it lays down roots reasonably quickly.
    • September 1919: Emperor Karl I attempts to reform Austria-Hungary into a more democratic and equal system; he proposes two new sub-kingdoms be created in Bohemia and Croatia. This backfires spectacularly, and Hungary declares independence, followed swiftly by Croatia. Austria-Hungary falls into civil war before the reforms are even enacted.
    • March 1920: A French-backed revolt sees the proclamation of the Commune of Wallonia; l’Armée Rouge marches across the border.
    • April 1920: Pro-German generals, urged on by Chancellor Hindenburg, attempt a coup against China’s republican government, installing the young Puyi as a puppet emperor. The Empire (of China) strikes back.
    • June 1920: The Cardiff Conference results in the “ten-point manifesto” of the British Proactive Movement
    • July 1920: The final government troops leave Marseilles for Algiers; the metropole is now under the control of the Republican Assembly.
    • August 1920: After their defeat in the war, Italy erupts into civil conflict, with a loosely-defined ideology centred around admiration of the Roman Empire gaining traction in the south.
    • September 1920: The last British troops leave the port of Bombay. India is now (almost) free of colonial control, and split into many new nations, although Germany exercises significant influence in the region. (I will admit, this seems quite radical for such a late POD, but given it seems well established, I’ll leave it in. I’d still like some clarification though.)
    • December 1920: Romania takes advantage of the chaos in what was Austria-Hungary, seizing Transylvania and incorporating it into the Romanian state.
    • January 1921: The Empire of Egypt proclaims independence, now free of British rule.
    • March 1921: Planted rebels in Algiers rise up at the same time that French troops begin their assault on the city. The “Free French” government begins its long retreat to Dakar.
    • November 1922: The British general election sees the Proactivists gain the balance of power and enter government.
    • August 1923: The failed introduction of a package of economic reforms prompts the growth of labour revolts, anarchist communes and warlord states across Japan. The military, hampered by limits forced on it at Strasbourg, are unable to maintain control.
    • April 1924: After a series of attempts on his life, the Japanese Emperor flees to Sakhalin, where an imperial government-in-exile is established. The remainder of Japan is under no central authority, with pockets of almost every ideology imaginable established across the country.
    • August 1924: The four-year Italian Civil War draws to a close, with most of Italy now under the control of the Roman Republic. The Romanist Manifesto is issued; it mixes nostalgia for Roman culture with hopes for rapid industrialisation, all under a highly powerful executive.
    • September 1924: A vast and sprawling empire unto itself of protectorates, colonies and military districts, a central authority for Germany-in-Africa is established, yet it remains comparatively weak. As long as the rubber, copper and gold continues to flow out of the coastal ports, Germany is more or less content to leave Africa alone.
    • January 1925: After a period of rapid change in the leadership of the new France, Hubert Lagardelle becomes Premier, quickly asserting control and stabilising the nation; ‘Madame Guillotine’ is put to use again.
    • September 1925: The British Proactivists intentionally bring down their coalition with the Conservatives to force a general election; they win a knife-edge majority after a dirty campaign on all sides.
    • 1925: Romanist parties begin to gain traction across southern Europe, especially in Spain and Greece.
    • January 1926: Leon Trotsky is assassinated by a young reactionary; shouting anti-communist and anti-Semitic cries, he shoots Lenin’s deputy and disappears into the crowd.
    • May 1926: The British Labour Party is outlawed.
    • November 1927: Lenin dies a natural death; a power struggle erupts in the Bolshevik Party, and anti-communist elements seize their chance. Within two months, the Second Russian Civil War begins and the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic is dissolved.

    A decade of civil wars, new ideologies and rapid change has resulted in an entirely different world to the one of twenty years ago. But as the 1920s draw to a close, the chaos is only beginning…

    1930s


    • March 1930: The Second Russian Civil War draws to a close, with democratic republicans returning to power. Elections are scheduled for July.
    • May 1930: May Day riots in major UK cities turn into what would become known as the Day of Bayonets, where the army and Proactivist paramilitaries ruthlessly crushed dissent. In the aftermath of the riots and massacres, Prime Minister Leese obtains authority from Parliament to govern by order-in-council, effectively making him a dictator. Regular renewals of this authority lend some legitimacy to the regime, although after all other parties are banned the passage of each measure becomes a mere formality.
    • June 1930: A hitherto mostly unknown figure named Konstantin Rodzaevsky attempts a coup in Moscow, espousing radical Orthodox nationalist ideas, anti-Semitism and authoritarianism. His trial sees his public profile raised a hundredfold, and a sympathetic judge (along with instructions from the government not to provoke too much public ire) see him earn only five years in jail.
    • July 1930: Free and fair elections are held in Russia for only the second time in its history. Democratic republicans win a slim majority, although the opposition is sharply divided between radical leftists, radical rightists, monarchists and an assortment of other groups.
    • September 1930: Hungary declares war on Romania, swiftly invading and seizing most of Transylvania.
    • November 1931: A Romanist party wins the balance of power in Argentina, beginning their eventual takeover of the government there.
    • December 1931: In an alternate universe, the Statute of Westminster would be passed, granting the British Dominions almost total legislative independence. With the Proactivists in control, this never occurs.
    • May 1932: The Macedonian Republic, a Romanist government based in Salonica, sweeps across much of northern Greece with Italian backing. Six months later, a coup in Athens brings a military junta to power in the rump Greece; it has close ties to Rodzaevsky’s movement.
    • June 1933: Western Australia is officially constituted as a separate Dominion within the British Empire; more pro-Proactive than their eastern counterparts, the balance in Canberra begins to shift towards making moves for independence from London's increasingly overbearing dictats.
    • August 1935: Rodzaevsky is released from prison and quickly assumes his seat in the Duma, leading the National Populist Party as the third largest party in the Duma. His fevered speeches against “the system” gain him an even wider following.
    • May 1938: Black Thursday sees the Berlin Stock Exchange plummet. With it, much of the world economy crashes.
    • In the months following Black Thursday, Orthodox nationalists come to power in Romania, Bulgaria and Serbia. Most notably though…
    • June 1938: Rodzaevsky secures a majority in the Duma, and assumes the office of Prime Minister for a total of three days. Following intimidation and outright attacks on opposition members, a two-thirds majority is cobbled together to amend the constitution. The position of Consul is created, endowed with “all power to govern the peoples of Russia”, and allowed to unilaterally amend the constitution. The Russian State is officially declared only ten days later.

    With totalitarian regimes on the rise across the globe, war seems inevitable. But no one yet knows when they will be plunged into the abyss of another global conflict…

    Now my other questions. We really need to get a clearer picture of WWII and the lead up to it, especially for nations other than Russia.

    My other major issue is with this:

    March 3, 1941: The reconquest of Ukraine is completed against token resistance. Donetsk, Luhansk and Crimea (maybe even more?) becomes Russian.

    Ukraine (as well as the Baltics) are under significant German influence. If Germany is world hegemon (which they seem to be at this point in time), then they are not letting a radical, expansionist Russia just take what amounts to their food bowl with only "token resistance". I think the reasons for Russia's expansion may need to be thought out a bit more.

    As regards claims, while I'd like to restate my position that we put them on hold until a complete timeline is formed, I'd like to mention that I asked to work on Africa. Furthermore, @Red Arturoist , I think your claiming of almost the entirety of Europe is a bit unfair. Given the centrality of Europe to this timeline, I think development of that continent especially needs to be a collaborative endeavour. I'm more than okay with you taking a leading role in the development there, but I think an outright claim on almost the entire continent shuts others out of most of the influential parts of this timeline.

    Finally, can we please fix those former Austria-Hungary borders? They're painful to look at.
     
    Ferd42's General TL for the UK
  • General timeline for the British
    • Fed 1919 - death of George V
    • Spring 1919 - Red Spring - forces Britain to make peace
    • 1919 - Treaty
    • 1922 - Proactivists in power
    • 1925 - Proactivist Goverment
    • ww2 - agaist France
     
    Mikroraptor's idea for the Balkans
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    my proposal for the Balkans and former Austria-Hungary, 1923 CE
    Some notes:
    Austria and Hungary are in personal Union with each other. Czechoslovakia has recovered well, and is one of the most prosperous of the former Austrian states.
     
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    The Failed British Invasion (of Ireland)
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    a map of the failed British invasion of Ireland, 1943. The Brits made several attempted landings in the south, but failed. For a while, the British-Backed loyalist militias advanced, but they collapsed in 1944, due to infighting and Britain pulling away its forces to deal with France. The eastern counties of Ulster were put under military occupation until 1950, when the Grand Duchy of Ulster was formed (more on that later)
     
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    German Party Logos 1
  • Here are my proposals for the major political parties (they are mostly designed as both logos and flags)
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    United Democratic Party
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    National Liberal Party
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    Social Democratic Party of Germany
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    Nature Conservation League (my personal favorite design so far)
     
    German Party Logos 2:Electric Boogaloo
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    Socialist Workers Party of Germany
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    Centre Party
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    Christian Solidarity Association
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    Environment, Man, Socialism!
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    Party of German Communards (derived from the flag of the People's Republic of Germany (1944-46)
     
    German Party Logos 3: Chipwrecked
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    Danish Party
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    Polish Party
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    Sorb Association
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    Memel Association
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    Free France Party
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    Party for Freedom and Solidarity (the flag is meant to represent China, Namibia, and Togo)
     
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    German Party Logos 4ever After
  • This should be the last of them (whew!)
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    National Conservative Party
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    The Communist banner, used by the many different Communist and Socialist parties in Germany
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    The Party of German Workers
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    Libertas Party
     
    KaiserEmu's Great Big Idea
  • Just another thought... IOTL, the Republic of German-Austria declared its independence as the Hapsburg Empire collapsed, and clearly stated its intention to join Germany. An majority of the Austrian population continued to support union, and the only reason why it didn't eventuate was because it was forbidden at Versailles. If A-H, for whatever reason, collapses, but the Central Powers have won the war, then I don't see any reason why anschluss would not be pursued.

    Hey lads, lasses, and others! I just wanted to tell you all that i’ll be back soon and I think we might just see a new world map so get ready for the hype!

    Speaking of world maps... here's my idea of what the world could look like in the months before the Second World War.

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    Notable features include:
    • My rather feeble attempts to illustrate the situation in China, Korea and Japan, where three different civil wars continue to rage.
    • My similarly feeble attempts to illustrate the scenario in India and South Asia.
    • How I could see borders evolving in Central and Eastern Europe through the interwar period (incl German northern Sudetenland, a very large Romania and a very angry Hungary).
    • Rodzaevsky's Russia has reclaimed the Siberian Republic with almost no sound from the international community, and is now beginning to clamour for referenda in Crimea, Kuban, and eastern Ukraine.
    • Much of Central Asia has slipped away from Russia, and has splintered into various nations with varying degrees of recognition.
    • The Imperial Commonwealth of Britain, under Proactive rule, has been slowly integrating the dominions (an exact opposite to OTL Britain's actions) and attempting to reassert their colonial power; some, most notably Australia and New Zealand, are resisting this and calls for outright independence are increasing.
    • Not that you can see it on the map, but Greece, Spain, Portugal, the Roman Republic (formerly Italy), Argentina and Chile have fallen under Romanist governments
    • In a similar vein, ultra-Orthodox governments have seized power in Bulgaria, Romania and Serbia.
    • The Turkish Nationalists have 'won' the Ottoman Civil War, with all Turkish (and Kurdish, and Armenian, but we don't talk about them) regions now under the control of the Turkish Republic; secular, democratic and doing fairly well for themselves, considering.
    • The Kingdom of Arabia, however, while managing to defeat the Sultan's forces and the Wahhabis, remains plagued by instability, conflict and strife; and pretty much the entire northern third of the country has some kind of active independence movement.
    Any questions? Comments?

    My idea for how this would progress up until the outbreak of war:
    • As Rodzaevsky becomes ever more assertive on the international stage, his demands for a renegotiation of Vilnius grow ever louder. Eventually, Germany agrees to referenda in eastern Ukraine, Kuban and Crimea, which result in all three regions rejoining Russia. (Ignore those election irregularities. I'm sure a ruthless dictator wouldn't resort to ballot stuffing and intimidation to influence an election...)
    • The Japanese Emperor returns from his exile in Siberia to Japan - still in chaos - and with Russian troops and Russian weapons, sets about reconquering his nation.
    • Pro-Russian revolts in Litbel erupt and the government is forced to ask for foreign assistance in quelling the violence.
    • Seeing the situation closer to home intensify and grow ever closer to war, Germany withdraws all non-diplomatic support for the Chinese Empire, and orders a retreat of their own forces back to only the Shandong Peninsula.
    • The Kuomintang seizes the opportunity and promptly launches a series of sucessful offensives into the territory of a country in disarray.
    • France, isolated on the diplomatic stage and seeing Germany prepare for war, establishes a non-aggression pact with Russia. Secretly, they also carve out zones of influence in Germany in the event of a war, which is increasingly being seen as inevitable.
    • With most revolts crushed, the Japanese Emperor returns to Tokyo. This is typically seen as the end of the Interregnum period of Japanese history. No sooner than he has established some semblance of control over his own people, he begins an invasion of China on the Liaoning Peninsula (with Russian backing).
    • Meanwhile in Russia, a series of ever more violent pogroms results in Russia's Jews being rounded up and deported to the Far East - ostensibly for their own safety.
    • A series of escalating diplomatic incidents, confrontations and condemnations results in a heightening of global tensions; almost universally, the question is now when, not if, a war will break out.
    • The Chinese Empire, squeezed on both sides, sees Bejing fall to the Japanese. The government flees south, and begins negotiating with the Republic.
    • Amidst the fraught situation, no one even notices when British troops march into the Bombay Republic and Confederation of Gujarat.
    • Turkey officially concludes an alliance with Germany. Russia, seeing her link to the outside world closing off, decides now is the time to act.
    • Rodzaevsky issues an ultimatum to Germany and her allies:
      • Transfer Belarus to the Russian State
      • Provide for a referendum in what remains of Ukraine on joining Russia
      • Withdraw all German forces from the Baltic states
      • Provide for the establishment of an international administration of the Bosporus and Marmara Sea region
    • Germany, of course, refuses Russia's (deliberately) outrageous demands. Within half an hour of their rejection, Russian troops steamroll into Ukraine and Belarus. Kiev falls within the day. The Second World War has begun.
     
    China in 1939
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    China in 1939

    The Beijing Government has lost all foreign aid, and the warlords that were aligned with them have split off. The Shandong Protectorate was conceded to them, though.
    all is not well in the Nanking Government, as there is a growing split between more nationalist and militarist aspects of the KMT, and those who think that they are too authoritarian, and are "defiling the legacy of Sun-Yat-Sen".

    After years of anarchy and chaos, the Empire has been restored to Japan, and is now indebted to Russia. Immediately, the Imperial forces invade Korea.
    "Khan" Sternberg dies, and the military dictatorship in Mongolia comes to an end. The new Government is anti-Russian, and signs an armistice with the Nanking government, so they can boost their defenses to the north. The CCP is quietly getting more and more powerful. And the Russians are starting to have an interest in the far east again...
     
    I don't know how many 2019 maps Red Arturoist has done so far, but this is one of them
  • In line with the recent debates about the plausibility of some borders, I adjusted the borders of Central Europe. Also, I changed Australia so that only OTL Western Australi is libertarian-democratic.

    Also, I removed some more subdivisions that I hadn't changed.

    And, thanks to a permission from @Onerom ,
    There ain't no such thing as copyright. Of course you can, I have used QBAMs uploaded to this forum by other people to help myself with the borders.

    I could rework China. @Used-to-be Song Chinese and @KaiserEmu have also explained well why Yunnan shouldn't be independent (despite me thinking it was a homeland for the Miao or Yi people). This also solved issues with Ningxia etc. - though I still think that Nanjing would be the capital of China.

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    Alliances in Europe, circa 1942
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    Alliances in Europe, circa 1942
    Blue=*Eurasiatic Alliance
    Red= *Orthodox Axis
    Orange= **Miles Romanorum
    Pink=Sorelian France and her allied Communes
    *names subject to change
    ** "Soldiers of Rome"
     
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    The Republic of Israel
  • The Republic of Israel

    Capital: Jerusalem (Executive) Tel Aviv-Yafo (Legislative)
    Official Languages: Hebrew, Arabic, Turkish
    Unofficial Languages: Yiddish, Polish, German, English
    Major Religions: Judaism (61.5%) Islam (34.5%) Christianity (19%)
    Government: Presidential Republic

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    Flag of the Republic of Israel, adopted 1940

    Modern History:
    Palestine had been under Ottoman rule for centuries, and despite the efforts of Zionists, had remained so. The Turks were very strict in their immigration policies, allowing few Jews to settle in Palestine for much of the nineteenth and early twentieth centuries. This changed, like many things in geopolitics, with World War I. The Ottomans lost Palestine to the British for almost a year, during which time they grew concerned that they would lose the territory in a peace agreement, and that the British would attempt to gain international support by backing the Zionist cause. The Kaiser (who supported Zionism), German diplomats, and a delegation of German Zionists finally convinced the Ottomans to issue a statement in late 1917, declaring "The Council of Ministers has just decided, Following negotiations with the Jewish delegation, to lift all restrictive measures on Jewish Immigration and Settlement in Palestine. Strict orders have been given to the relevant authorities to ensure a benevolent treatment of the Jewish nation in Palestine based on complete equality with the other elements of the population." the statement, now known as the Istanbul Declaration*, continued, saying "We hereby declare our sympathies for the establishment of a religious and national Jewish center in Palestine by well organized immigration and settlement."
    The British withdrew from Palestine only a few months later, and the Ottoman government attempted to figure out a solution for Jewish settlement. The obvious answer, they decided, was a Pale of settlement, and quotas for how many Jews could emigrate per year. This Pale was initially quite small, as were the quotas, but with some pressure from the Kaiser, and the Republican Coup of 1923, the quotas were lifted in 1925, and the Pale was expanded to cover all of Palestine by 1930.
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    Expansion of the Pale, 1919-1930. Egypt was far less kind to
    its Jewish population, forcing them into "Townships" in the Sinai

    Unfortunately, this relatively peaceful era was not to last. As Turkish nationalism stirred, supported by Russian agents, harsher laws were passed, and at the same time Zionists were increasingly demanding an independent Jewish nation. In 1937, the Nationalists deported large numbers of Arabs to the UAS, and ordered a halt on all immigration to Palestine. Many Zionists organized themselvis into militias, and fearing that the Turks would forcibly expel them, a group of Socialist Zionists declared the Eilat Commune. Athough the Commune lasted only six days, many historians consider those to be the first shots fired in the Ottoman Civil War. As the Constitutionalists and Nationalists fought each other across the rest of the Empire, and Pontic Greek and Armenian separatists gained ground, the varoius Zionist groups organized into the Army for Judea. The Nationalists tried to occupy and secure Palestine, their rule was little more than a warlord state. On September 1st, 1939, the Republic of Israel was declared. The first act of this new Republic was to send official aid to Zionist rebels in the Sinai, who were rising up agaist the anti-semitic Egyptian Government. Germany recognized the country almost immediately, and after much debate, the United States and France soon did too.
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    The Situation in the Levant, Sept. 1st, 1939
    As WWII raged in Europe, the allies relieved the Constitutionalist forces, and the Nationalists retreated from Palestine in 1944. But the Constitutionalists demanded that the Israeli forces surrender to them, which they refused. At the same time, Egyptian forces launched a massive offensive into the Sinai, forcing a retreat. It looked like the young Republic was doomed. Then, the German Empire persuaded the Ottomans to redirect their forces to Armenia, and settle the question of Israel later. This allowed the Israelis the chance to regroup, and drive the Egyptians out of the Sinai altogether. Still not wanting to acknowledge the soverignty of Israel, the Egyptian government sold the Sinai region to the Ottoman Empire. In 1946, the Ottoman civil war ended, with a Constitutionalist victory. An agreement was reached, that as long as Jerusalem's Muslim artifacts and buildings were preserved, the Republic of Israel would be officially recognized.

    Israel rebuilt itself into a powerful nation, with a strong military and economy. These both would be put to the test, with the 1968 recession, and the Roman-Israeli war. This was one of the last Naval wars, mostly triggered by Roman naval aggression. After sinking seven Roman aircraft carriers off the coast of Lebanon, the Roman Republic agreed to stand down, and allow free trade in the Mediterranean.

    Israel today is a well developed democratic state. Although constantly clashing with the Romanists, it has endured. Israel is seen as a beacon of hope by the world's Jewish population. Although in recent years, there have been some issues with Arab separatism, so far these issues have been settled politically. Israel has recently become a major hub for tech companies, and has become a competitor with the Chinese and with Silicon Valley*
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    Map of the States of the Republic of Israel
    *
    this was an actual declaration made in OTL by an Ottoman official
    **Silicon valley ITTL is not located in California
     
    Der Spiegel: Reichskanzler Ireneusz Strzelecki in hot water after ‘anti-semitic’ remarks
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    (I hope this isn’t too political)
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    While German liberals and others on the left have argued against his point, some of his other rivals have even pointed out supposed ‘hypocrisy’.
    Eduard Bandelin of the far-right NKP, for instance, said that he himself was a ‘Pole who had no right to rule over a German population’.
    Many demanded an apology, including Shinichi Uemura of the SPD. He said that Strzelecki’s remarks were ‘deeply hurtful to the many Jews of Germany’ and were akin to ‘Rodzaevsky himself’.
    Sander himself refused to comment.
     
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    The New York Times: Scotland: Propaganda vs Reality
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    An infographic produced by the New York Times about Scotland, which indicates that the UK's press might not be as free as it claims...

    If there's enough interest, I might right up a War correspondence article
     
    List of U.S Presidents, new and improved
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    WIP
    Woodrow Wilson/Thomas R Marshall (Democratic Party) 1913-1921
    William Gibbs McAdoo/Newton D Baker (Democratic Party) 1921-1929
    Alfred Smith/Joseph Taylor Robinson (Democratic Party) 1929-1933
    Quentin Roosevelt/Jacob Coxey (Progressive-Labor Party) 1933-1945
    Jacob Coxey/Henry Wallace (Progressive-Democratic-Labor) 1945-1950

    Henry Wallace/Glen H.Taylor (Progressive-Democratic-Labor) 1950-1957
    Robert Taft/Howard Buffett (Republican) 1957-1961
    Hubert Humphrey/Samuel H.Friedman (Progressive-Democratic-Labor) 1961-1965
    William J.B Sampson/Robert Brock (Christian Democrat) 1965-1973
    James Roosevelt/Oliver Vartanian (Progressive-Democratic-Labor) 1973-1977
    Dean Winters/Michael Harrington (Progressive-Democratic-Labor- Socialist Party) 1977-1978
    Bernard W.Rogers (Military Dictatorship) 1978
    Michael Harrington/ Victor Reuther (Progressive-Democratic-Labor) 1979-1985
    William Jennings Bryan Sampson Jr. / Joseph Biaggi (Christian Democrat) 1985-1997
    Ross Perot/Patrick Byron (Libertarian) 1997-2001
    Michael Kawasaki/Elizabeth Vey (Progressive-Democratic-Labor) 2001-2009
    Jeb Bush/Benjamin Blackford (Republican) 2009-2011
    Rosa Vasquez/Stanley Mason (Progressive-Democratic-Labor) 2011-2017
    Benjamin Blackford/Mike Maturen (Republican-Christian Democrat) 2017-
     
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    Flags of Scottish forces
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    Flag of the Scotland Socialist Republican Front, classified as a Terrorist organization internationally, and use of the flag is banned in Britain.
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    Banner of the Scottish division of the Pan-Celtic army. A paramilitary organization using terror tactics in Scotland, pretty much everywhere else it is a political party advocating for a union of the Six Celtic nations. Use of this flag is banned in Great Britain, but it is often used at protests against the war in Scotland.
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    Flag of the Scottish Republican Army. Of all the factions, this is the one that has come the closest to creating a independent government, and has gained popular support by providing basic services that the British forces cannot. Use of this flag is banned by the British, but it is used internationally to show solidarity with the Scottish insurgents.
     
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    People in WWII
  • Some ideas for some of the leaders of ww2 ITTL.
    Ioseb Besarionis dze Jughashvili*
    As a youth, he was active in several Communist organizations in Russia, but decided to return to his homeland of Georgia, to try and spread the Revolution.
    He joined the army, and quickly gained popularity for crushing a revolt in South Ossetia. In 1932, with support from France, he lead a military coup against the government, establishing himself as absolute ruler of Georgia. When Russia invaded, he led a government in exile, until the collapse of Russian control in 1947. He dies in 1953. He remains a controversial figure in Georgia, being a national Hero to some, and a brutal tyrant to others.

    Winston Churchill
    First Lord of the Admiralty in the Great war, was forced into exile to Canada by the leadership of the Proactive government due to speaking out against the regime

    Benito Mussolini
    One of the founders of the Romanist party, became the head of the Ministry of Informational Affairs during WW2. Became Consul in 1950, retired in 1971.

    *Joseph Stalin
     
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    A rough timeline for interwar Russia by Hindustani Person
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    Once upon a time
    There lay a foolish man
    From the lands of Ind he hailed
    His ambitions were incomparable
    But his follies were very little
    And everything he did late
    The end’
    -
    Unknown, ‘The Ballad of the person of Ind’
    In all seriousness, I think we should continue this. Here’s a basic Russia TL.
    • 1919- Lev Bronstein is assassinated by an anti-Semitic reactionary in the midst of the Russian civil war
    • 1920- ‘The Great Chaos’ begins as German troops invade Soviet-occupies Belarus in ‘Operation Hermann’, named after Prince-Bishop Hermann of the Teutonic Order, who was known for his failed invasion of Novgorod under Alexander Nevsky. This invasion is more successful, and causes a significant blow to the Soviet Union
      • Alexander Kolchak (the admiral and polar explorer, not the famous social media influencer @Admiral A. Kolchak ) begins to make further advances west
    • 1922- Lenin, whose health is already deteriorating, dies in December. Kolchak, despite gaining further victories, is mortally wounded. Stalin escapes to Paris- there he founds a Communist group to ‘liberate Russia’, which is funded by the French government, although some politicians such as Léon Blum criticise this due to Stalin’s authoritarianism. His Georgian comrades including Beria travel there with him.
    • 1924- Kolchak, despite his terrible health, is sworn in as the new President of Russia. He promises to uphold democracy (to quote Alexander Kolchak himself- ‘I love democracy. I love the republic.’) and bring security to Russia. Of course he wins the vote in the election.
    • 1926- Anastasy Vonsyatsky forms the ‘All-Russian New White Organisation’. While ultra-nationalist and Orthodox, it is not anti-Semitic
    • 1928- Although Kolchak’s health is getting even worse, he continues to stand in elections and (somewhat suspiciously) win them. Anastasy Vonsyatsky dies of unknown causes and is replaced by Konstantin Rodzaevsky, a 21-year old renegade.
    • 1930- Rodzaevsky and his friend Lev Okhotin hold a public rally in Moscow; this rally eventually turns into a fight between a Rodzaevsky and Russian police, leading to Rodzaevsky being tried and convicted for a years’ sentence.
    • 1932- Rodzaevsky decides to be stupid again and stages a coup in Volgograd; but a sympathetic judiciary and lax governance means that he basically suffers no consequences
    • 1936- Alexander Kolchak is basically almost dead. Rodzaevsky, having a substantial amount of votes, is invited into government and acts as veep.
    • 1938- Alexander Kolchak dies. Rodzaevsky takes power, and titles himself ‘Vozhd for life’. He bans elections, allows himself to veto all laws passes, and changes the constitution. Massive anti-Semitic pogroms are committed on an even larger scale that earlier.
    And that’s all I have for Interwar Russia. I will continue to work on this TL btw, even if no one else is interested (I hope they are).
     
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