A Shining Valley - The Great Desert Lake in California

Discussion in 'Alternate History Maps and Graphics' started by Planita13, May 18, 2019.

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  1. SavinkovDidNothingWrong Well-Known Member

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    Any chance we could get an update on what this TL's Civil War looked like?
     
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  2. Planita13 Wishing for a Lake

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    There is actually, just not where the United States have significant influence mainly in Oceania and North America. The equivalent of World War 2 wasn't too strenuous on the United Kingdom, but they basically got sidelined by the power of the United States.

    Sure! I can put it out in a week or so. I will probably write out the introduction paragraphs and an infobox.
     
  3. fluttersky ~ᴍeʀmᴀiᴅ iɴ a seᴀ oғ aɴoᴍiᴇ~

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    I was reading this timeline and thinking precisely that, that the Najavo and surrounding reservations could become a free state... only to find you'd already mentioned it ^_^
     
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  4. rsha1s Well-Known Member

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    It’s amazing to think that the continued existence of a lake in California significantly altered world history.
     
  5. FesteringSpore Birthday Wisher

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    So has the US caused the Canadians and Australians to boot out the monarchy, or is it a situation similar to OTL?

    Oh, and I'm really excited to see where the rest of this goes. This is a very good timeline, you know.
     
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    This was my first response:
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    But, seriously, it looks like it has; I'd like to know more...
     
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  7. Onerom Nobody Expects

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    I was going the suggest español californio as the proper name, thankfully I didn't jump too early XD

    So, is Californio as divergent from Standard Spanish as OTL New Mexican Spanish, or is it more like Argentinian Spanish, with strong influence from another language(s) but still mostly understandable for other Latin Americans and Spaniards? If it's the first case, is the standard variety taught alongside?
     
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  8. Planita13 Wishing for a Lake

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    mfw when I look away for 30 minutes and then I get 10 notifications
    Yea, it makes my home state much more interesting :p. Unfortunately its an ASB, because my research basically showed that the river flow is inherently unstable around that region and thus having the river stay fixed for ~300 years is an near impossibility.

    Australia and New Zealand did by democratic referendums (with America leaning over). With Canada its a bit more complicated because British economic ties to Canada are quite strong, so Canada is in the Commonwealth (or its equivalent). Of course the United States is right next door, so Canada is under pressure from both country.

    haha. Thank you! You guys always want to know more.

    Yea its more like OTL New Mexican Spanish, with its significant amount of loan words from a couple different languages, divergent morphology, and phonology. When you mean standard variety, I assume you mean Mexican Spanish? Traditionally they only taught Californian Spanish, because... well... in their view they were already speaking Spanish so there is no need to. Of course as migration from Mexico occurred past the 1950s, there was some recognition that Californian Spanish is pretty different. However there was really no move to accommodate this aside from attempting to assimilate the new migration. Remember they are very protective of their national identity, and so this also includes influence from other Spanish dialects. Of the course the irony is that their Spanish is already greatly influenced by other languages.
     
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  9. The Professor Pontifex Collegii Vexillographiariorum

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    Intriguing. No love for Califorñol as a name? :winkytongue:
     
  10. Threadmarks: 1860 Presidential Election

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  11. SavinkovDidNothingWrong Well-Known Member

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    This is really good! Looking forward to seeing how the Civil War plays out.
     
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  12. Planita13 Wishing for a Lake

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    Thank you! I'm planning to cover his Presidency in the next post, but it's pretty obvious that nice things don't happen. Although the North gets very very angry with the federal government, they don't secede. Abraham Lincoln is still there, he is actually a Senator.


    Cool thanks! I'll do one post before I move onto the actual war.
     
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  14. Planita13 Wishing for a Lake

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    I've also struck the Primary System and Factions post from canon. I want to rework the whole thing and split it into more detailed posts. That will be covered after the Civil War.
     
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  15. Osk Eu set di la Oskaña

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    Just popping in to say, I love this whole timeline! Great job lol
     
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  16. nemo1986 Member of Red Sox Nation

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    Judging from what I can read Abe Lincoln was elected to the House of Representatives and ended up Speaker of the House?
     
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  17. Planita13 Wishing for a Lake

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    Thank you very much! Its nice to hear from you again.
    Close, but actually he was elected to the Senate and then became president pro tempore of the Senate. So when Lane is removed from office, Lincoln becomes President.
     
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  18. nemo1986 Member of Red Sox Nation

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    Uh. In the presidential line of succession the speaker of the house becomes president. President pro tempore is after that.
     
  19. Ran Well-Known Member

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    It was the President pro tempore at the time, though.
     
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    Oh. My bad.
     
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