Edward VI lives to age 31 and married Jane Grey in 1553 (based on some wikiboxes I posted right at the end of the 5th thread), I admit that I may have gone a little overboard in the length of it (and I didn't even add the marriages and children of most of the branches)
Edward and his children
Edward VI, King of England and Ireland (b.1537:d.1569)
By Jane Grey, Duchess of Suffolk (b.c.1537:d.1604), married in 1554
Line of Henry IX
Henry IX, King of England and Ireland (b.1560:d.1580) m. Anna of Nassau (b.1563:d.1578)
By Anna of Nassau (b.1563:d.1578), married in 1574
Line of Elizabeth I, originally Duchess of York, Regent from 1580 to 1588
Elizabeth I, Queen of England and Ireland (b.1555:d.1630), m. Prince Robert of Scotland (b.1566:d.1618)
1) Line of Thomas I
2) Richard, King of Scots (b.1583:d.1645) m. Margaret II, Queen of Scots (b.1596:d.1652)
Line of Thomas I, of the House of Stewart by male line (but identifying himself as Tudor)
Thomas I, King of England and Ireland (b.1581:d.1638) m. Catherine of Sweden (b.1584:d.1642)
Line of Thomas II
Thomas II, King of England and Ireland (b.1622:d.1690) m. Margaret III, Queen of Scots (b.1627:d.1705)
Main things on the line:
- The titles of nobility in England and Ireland develop to be inheritable to women, which seems to have either been a medieval custom who was lost over time or a rare occasion mostly reserved to Baronies and some duchies in OTL, reason why this line has an almost unrealistic amount of women inheriting their father’s, brother’s, nephew’s or cousin’s titles, or being granted them by letters patent (this also means that a larger amount of titles has been running for a longer amount of time)
- The relationship between the English, Welsh and Irish ended up becoming rather more amiable over time, with the Welsh due to Henry IX and his sister being rather fond of Wales (Caernarfon became a permanent royal residence in rank with Hampton Court) while Lady Elizabeth (OTL Elizabeth I, who was sent to Ireland after her marriage to Robert Dudley in 1550 and served as Lord Deputy from 1554 to 1572) helped mend things with the Irish lords, with Ireland by the end of the 17th century being basically a patchwork of semi-independent Gaelic nobles and royal territory (you can see that they also have a tendency to marry into the House of Tudor through royal bastards with some frequency)
- Mary Tudor never married, but after suffering a despair event horizon in 1555 she ended up sleeping with a servant and having a son by him, humiliated and “tainted”, she was granted the title of Duchess of Bedford by her brother in 1558, and died of cancer in 1561
- Mary, Queen of Scots, had twin sons, James and Robert, with her first husband, who died of some sort of pox almost a year later, she herself died (or was possibly poisoned) in 1570. James, later on, only had a daughter, Margaret, who was married to her first cousin Richard (his brother, Thomas, abdicated his right on the line of succession) and was co-monarch with him after he inherited her father’s throne (as @isabella revealed to me that the Scottish had a semi-Salic Law in place, which I did not know when originally planning this line)
- Religion in Britain is rather different, as Anglicanism became more similar to Nordic Protestantism with a longer-living Edward VI, Ireland ended up becoming more protestant as well, with various protestant denominations springing from there (some considered nigh-pagan and most similar to the Celtic Church), with Catholicism having a holdout in the mountains of Connaught and Western Munster similarly to the Scottish Highlands
- Speaking of the Nordics, Eric XIV was still deposed by his brother John, and the main differences after it were that his son Gustav gained the Principality of Uglich and retained it (In OTL he received it as compensation for a broken betrothal from Boris Godunov and was deposed by the False Dmitry under orders of his cousin, Sigismund), Sigismund Vasa, in comparison, ended up dying before religion became a problem for his reign, with his protestant wife becoming regent for their eldest son, while their second son ended up becoming the monarch of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth
- Speaking of Russia, while Gustav did gain the Principality of Uglich as in OTL, the Rurikids did not become extinct as Ivan IV never smashed his son’s head in, the House of Romanov still exists but only as a powerful noble family in Russia and as Kings of Livonia (which are vassals of the Russia)
- William the Silent wasn’t assassinated and due to a different development of the Dutch Rebellion (Anna of Nassau, BTW, is one of his daughters) the Netherlands become a kingdom under the House of Orange (although it is decided that the title of king will not be used, and instead the Dutch monarch holds the title of "Stadtholder of the Netherlands". The 80 Year's War still occurs, and Belgium still ends up being a separate country from the Netherlands
- The later generations present a bit more of change, as a 30 Years’ War-like conflict still occurs, but lasts around double the time and has some dramatic effects on the Holy Roman Empire, those being that not only does the Austrian Branch of the House of Hapsburg turn protestant (they retain the title of Holy Roman Emperors by doing some word-wizardry basically in the sense of it “being a title granted by god to the King of Germany and not by the whim of the Pope”), which is one of the reasons why the war extends for so long (a civil war within the House of Hapsburg basically), but all Princely and Imperial Abbeys within the HRE are mediatized, but, instead of like OTL, German mediatization is that most of them are granted to branches or minor members of royal and noble houses of Europe, reason why the Duke of Marlborough is also the Prince-Bishopric of Fulda (The Churchill Family, BTW, never comes into being, as the father of the OTL first Duke of Marlborough is born a woman). Also, Spain gets brought down a peg or two in the war and ends up losing Navarre while their colonial empire fragments into various dynastic kingdoms (Spain proper only retains their territories in the Mediterranean and Africa together with some islands in the Caribbean)
- Portugal never loses it’s independence due to an alternate Sebastian I both not trying a Crusade in Morocco and being more religiously moderate, and ends up breaking with the Church during the TTL 30 Year’s War, with the Lusitanian Church being basically "Catholicism without the Pope"
- The kingdoms of France and Navarre are again separated (the second time this happens, the first one was after Joan I married Philip IV of France, it lasted from 1284 to 1328) as Henry IV has Louis XIII before schedule (meaning he is less against protestants as well) but Louis only has daughters and after him while his eldest gets a Navarre returned to its pre-Spain size his brother becomes King of France (his other daughter marries a brother of Thomas II, who becomes king of Belgium after it gains independence in the TTL 30 Years’ War)
- The colonization of the Americas by England ends up having a slightly more feudal manner, with nobles with fiefs being a fact in some parts of it (like the Earldom of Roanoke), and the Scottish manage to pull a Colony of Darien (also, as can be noticed, the Union of Crowns happens much later in comparison to OTL)
Edward and his children
Edward VI, King of England and Ireland (b.1537:d.1569)
By Jane Grey, Duchess of Suffolk (b.c.1537:d.1604), married in 1554
1) Line of Elizabeth I
2) Henry, Duke of Cornwall (b.1557:d.1566)
3) Jane, Princess of England (b.1558:d.1603) m. Thomas, Duke of Bedford (b.1556:d.1603)
1) Henry, Earl Hunsdon (b.1573:d.1580)
2) Catherine, 6th Duchess of Bedford (b.1574:d.1642), was a spinster
3) Lady Frances Tudor (b.1576:d.1631) the ancestress of the current dukes
4) Edward, 3rd Duke of Bedford (b.1577:d.1612) extinct on the legitimate line
5) Lady Mary Tudor (b.1580:d.1617)
4) Line of Henry IX
5) Margaret, Queen of Sweden (b.1564:d.1612) m. Sigismund, King of Sweden (b.1566:d.1598)
1) Margaret of Sweden (b.1583:d.1591)
2) Catherine, Queen of England and Ireland (b.1584:d.1642)
3) Karl III, King of Sweden (b.1587:d.1631)
4) Anna of Sweden (b.1589:d.1660)
5) Hedwig of Sweden (b.1590:d.1627)
6) Wadislaw IV, King of Poland (b.1594:d.1652)
6) Madeleine, Queen of Denmark (b. 1568:d.1585) m. Frederick II, King of Denmark and Norway (b.1534:d.1588)
1) Christian IV, King of Denmark and Norway (b.1585:d.1650)
By Lady Lettice Knollys, Countess of Rotherfield (b.1543:d.1634), mistress from 1560 to 15641) Thomas, Duke of Calais (b.1562:d.1655) m. Lady Cecily Percy (b.1565:d.1615), m. Lady Catherine Raleigh (b.1600:d.1678)
1a) Lady Jackline FitzTudor (b.1584:d.1607)
2a) Lady Eleanor FitzTudor (b.1589:d.1
3a) Henry FitzTudor, Earl of Rotherfield (b.1591:d.1642), grandfather of the 2nd Duke of Calais
4a) Lady Meredith FitzTudor (b.1593:d.1648)
5a) Lord James FitzTudor (b.1595:d.1622)
1b) Lady Agatha FitzTudor (b.1617:d.1680)
2b) Lord Reginald FitzTudor (b.1622:d.1703)
Line of Henry IX
Henry IX, King of England and Ireland (b.1560:d.1580) m. Anna of Nassau (b.1563:d.1578)
By Anna of Nassau (b.1563:d.1578), married in 1574
1) Henry X, King of England and Ireland (b.1578:d.1588)
By Lady Elizabeth Cavendish, Countess of Lennox (b.1555:d.1592), mistress in 15751) Thomas FitzRoy, Duke of Devon (b.1575:d.1619) m. Lady Frances Devereux (b.1599:d.1674)
1) James, 2nd Duke of Devon (b.1617:d.1623)
2) Edward, 3rd Duke of Devon (b.1618:d.1640)
3) Margaret, 4th Duchess of Devon (b.1619:d.1701)
By Lady Margaret Fitzpatrick, of Upper Ossory (b.1561:d.1621), mistress from 1575 to 15801) Frances FitzRoy, Duchess of Kilkenny (b.1576:d.1654) m. Richard Butler, 3rd Viscount Mountgarret (b.1578:d.1651)
1) Edmund Butler, 2nd Duke of Kilkenny (b.1595:d.1679)
2) Lady Margaret Butler (b.1596:d.1620)
3) Lady Mary Butler (b.1598:d.1631)
4) Lord Richard Butler (b.1599:d.1618)
5) Lord Henry Butler (b.1602:d.1605)
6) Lady Eleanor Butler (b.1605:d.1612)
7) Lady Madeleine Butler (b.1606:d.1639)
8) Lady Catherine Butler (b.1610:d.1618)
2) Jane Fitzroy, Duchess of Ballybunion (b.1578:d.1630) m. Lord Henry FitzGerald, of the Earls of Desmond (b.1575:d.1608)
1) Catherine, 2nd Duchess of Ballybunion (b.1602:d.1661)
2) Lady Ellen FitzGerald (b.1606:d.1690)
Line of Elizabeth I, originally Duchess of York, Regent from 1580 to 1588
Elizabeth I, Queen of England and Ireland (b.1555:d.1630), m. Prince Robert of Scotland (b.1566:d.1618)
1) Line of Thomas I
2) Richard, King of Scots (b.1583:d.1645) m. Margaret II, Queen of Scots (b.1596:d.1652)
1) Robert IV, King of Scots (b.1612:d.1651) father of Margaret III
2) Princess Elizabeth of Scotland (b.1615:d.1668)
3) Princess Margaret Scotland (b.1616:d.1689)
3) James, Duke of Richmond (b.1585:d.1617) m. Vasilisa of Uglich (b.1596:d.1680)1) Edmund, Duke of Richmond (b.1616:d.1638), had three daughters
4) Catherine, Queen of the Netherlands (b.1590:d.1678) m. Frederick I, Stadholder of the Netherlands (b.1586:d.1647)1) William II, Stadholder of the Netherlands (b.1611:d.1650)
2) Louise Henriette of the Netherlands (b.1615:1699)
3) Agnes of the Netherlands (b.1619:d.1703)
4) Albertine of the Netherlands (b.1622:1667)
5) Hendrik of the Netherlands (b.1631:1650)
6) Maria of Nassau (b.1632:1718)
5) Henry, Duke of Leinster jure uxoris (b.1594:d.1662) m. Elizabeth, 4th Duchess of Leinster (b.1595:d.1674)1) Edward, Earl of Leicester (b.1614:d.1629) died childless
2) Florence, 5th Duchess of Leinster (b.1616:d.1675)
3) Saoirse, 6th Duchess of Leinster (b.1621:d.1697)
Line of Thomas I, of the House of Stewart by male line (but identifying himself as Tudor)
Thomas I, King of England and Ireland (b.1581:d.1638) m. Catherine of Sweden (b.1584:d.1642)
1) Edward, Prince of Wales (b.1602:d.1638) m. Sophia Christina of Prussia (b.1605:d.1644)
By Sophia Christina of Prussia
1) Henry, Duke of Windsor (b.1621:d.1627)
2) Line of Thomas II
3) Agatha, Queen of Portugal (b.1625:d.1701) m. Manuel II, King of Portugal (b.1618:d.1672)
4) Richard I, King of Belgium (b.1628:d.1687) m. Renée of France & Navarre (b.1622:d.1700)
By Lady Anne Cavendish, of the Earls of Devonshire (b.1611:d.1638) mistress from 1629 to 1633
1) Lady Adelaide FitzWales, Countess of Oxford (b.1631:d.1669)
2) Lady Louise FitzWales, Duchess of Newcastle (b.1632:d.1692)
By Arbella Stewart, Duchess of Lennox, a semi-royal cousin (b.1575:d.1626) mistress intermittently from 1622 to 1638 and close confidant
1) Charles Stewart, 2nd Duke of Lennox (b.1624:d.1674)
2) Lady Margaret Stewart (b.1625:d.1627)
3) Lady Mary Stewart (b.1629:d.1635)
4) John Stewart, Earl of Roanoke (b.1630:d.1702)
5) Lady Bellatrix Stewart (b.1634:d.1690)
By Calpurnia Churchill, the daughter of a lawyer (b.1620:d.1679) mistress in his last two years
1) Jasper Tudor, Duke of Marlborough, Prince-Bishopric of Fulda (b.1638:d.1704)
By Elizabeth, a washerwoman (d.1642) unexpected friend for 20 years, mistress for a month
1) Alfred FitzPrince, Earl of Dover (b.1631:d.1674)
2) Mary, Princess Royal (b.1602:d.1677)
3) Jane, Duchess of Carrickfergus (b.1605:d.1658) m. Lord Constantine O’Neill, of the Lords of Upper Clandeboye (b.c.1595:d.1646)
1) Thomas O’Neill, Duke of Carrickfergus (b.1630:d.1689)
2) Prince Felix of Carrickfergus (b.1631:d.1672) ancestor of the Lords of Ortelsburg
3) Princess Margaret of Carrickfergus (b.1634:d.1680)
4) Prince Brian of Carrickfergus (b.1635:d.1642)
5) Prince Murtagh of Carrickfergus (b.1637:d.1678)
6) Princess Mary of Carrickfergus (b.1638:d.1705)
7) Princess Anne of Carrickfergus (b.1640:d.1643)
8) Princess Jane of Carrickfergus (b.1642:d.1642)
9) Prince Niall of Carrickfergus (b.1643.1650)
10) Princess Elizabeth of Carrickfergus (b.1644.d.1644)
11) Prince Constantine of Carrickfergus (b.1646:d.1658)
4) Eric XV, King of Sweden (b.1606:d.1671) m. Princess Christina of Sweden (b.1616:d.1689)
1) Karl IV, King of Sweden (b.1632:d.1694)
2) Ulrika of Sweden (b.1633:d.1677)
3) Gustav I, Viceroy of Delmarva (b.1635:d.1679)
5) Sarah, Queen of Denmark (b.1610:d.1693) m. Frederick III, King of Denmark (b.1607:d.1656)
1) Anna Sophia of Denmark (b.1627:d.1680)
2) Christian V, King of Denmark (b.1630:d.1678)
3) Friederike of Denmark (b.1631:d.1691)
4) Wilhelmine of Denmark (b.1633:d.1702)
5) Ulrik of Denmark (b.1635:d.1683)
Line of Thomas II
Thomas II, King of England and Ireland (b.1622:d.1690) m. Margaret III, Queen of Scots (b.1627:d.1705)
1) James, Duke of Cornwall (b.1641:d.1652)
2) Mary, Electress Palatine (b.1643:d.1675) m. Frederick VI, Elector Palatine (b.1637:d.1693)
1) Rupert I, Elector Palatine (b.1660:d.1719)
2) Sophia, Holy Roman Empress (b.1662:d.1729)
3) Elizabeth of the Palatinate (b.1664:d.1669)
3) Alexander, Prince of Wales (b.1645:d.1684) m. Princess Maria Theresa of Austria (b.1652:d.1685)
1) Princess Jane of Wales (b.1669:d.1730)
2) Edward, Duke of Windsor and Berwick (b.1670:d.1687), father of Henry XI & I (and at least 12 bastards)
3) Prince James of Wales (b.1672:d.1675)
4) Princess Elizabeth of Wales (b.1673:d.1675)
5) Princess Mary of Wales (b.1676:d.1681)
4) Elizabeth, Queen of the Netherlands (b.1646:d.1712) m. Frederick II, Stadtholder of the Netherlands (b.1638:d.1692)
1) William III, Stadtholder of the Netherlands (b.1664:d.1740)
5) Catherine, Queen of Navarre (b.1647:d.1718) m. Philip IV, King of Navarre (b.1640:d.1699)
1) Louis III, King of Navarre (b.1665:d.1715) died without issue
2) Eleanor of Navarre (b.1666:d.1680)
3) Joan IV, Queen of Navarre (b.1670:d.1752)
4) Blanche of Navarre (b.1671:d.1722)
Main things on the line:
- The titles of nobility in England and Ireland develop to be inheritable to women, which seems to have either been a medieval custom who was lost over time or a rare occasion mostly reserved to Baronies and some duchies in OTL, reason why this line has an almost unrealistic amount of women inheriting their father’s, brother’s, nephew’s or cousin’s titles, or being granted them by letters patent (this also means that a larger amount of titles has been running for a longer amount of time)
- The relationship between the English, Welsh and Irish ended up becoming rather more amiable over time, with the Welsh due to Henry IX and his sister being rather fond of Wales (Caernarfon became a permanent royal residence in rank with Hampton Court) while Lady Elizabeth (OTL Elizabeth I, who was sent to Ireland after her marriage to Robert Dudley in 1550 and served as Lord Deputy from 1554 to 1572) helped mend things with the Irish lords, with Ireland by the end of the 17th century being basically a patchwork of semi-independent Gaelic nobles and royal territory (you can see that they also have a tendency to marry into the House of Tudor through royal bastards with some frequency)
- Mary Tudor never married, but after suffering a despair event horizon in 1555 she ended up sleeping with a servant and having a son by him, humiliated and “tainted”, she was granted the title of Duchess of Bedford by her brother in 1558, and died of cancer in 1561
- Mary, Queen of Scots, had twin sons, James and Robert, with her first husband, who died of some sort of pox almost a year later, she herself died (or was possibly poisoned) in 1570. James, later on, only had a daughter, Margaret, who was married to her first cousin Richard (his brother, Thomas, abdicated his right on the line of succession) and was co-monarch with him after he inherited her father’s throne (as @isabella revealed to me that the Scottish had a semi-Salic Law in place, which I did not know when originally planning this line)
- Religion in Britain is rather different, as Anglicanism became more similar to Nordic Protestantism with a longer-living Edward VI, Ireland ended up becoming more protestant as well, with various protestant denominations springing from there (some considered nigh-pagan and most similar to the Celtic Church), with Catholicism having a holdout in the mountains of Connaught and Western Munster similarly to the Scottish Highlands
- Speaking of the Nordics, Eric XIV was still deposed by his brother John, and the main differences after it were that his son Gustav gained the Principality of Uglich and retained it (In OTL he received it as compensation for a broken betrothal from Boris Godunov and was deposed by the False Dmitry under orders of his cousin, Sigismund), Sigismund Vasa, in comparison, ended up dying before religion became a problem for his reign, with his protestant wife becoming regent for their eldest son, while their second son ended up becoming the monarch of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth
- Speaking of Russia, while Gustav did gain the Principality of Uglich as in OTL, the Rurikids did not become extinct as Ivan IV never smashed his son’s head in, the House of Romanov still exists but only as a powerful noble family in Russia and as Kings of Livonia (which are vassals of the Russia)
- William the Silent wasn’t assassinated and due to a different development of the Dutch Rebellion (Anna of Nassau, BTW, is one of his daughters) the Netherlands become a kingdom under the House of Orange (although it is decided that the title of king will not be used, and instead the Dutch monarch holds the title of "Stadtholder of the Netherlands". The 80 Year's War still occurs, and Belgium still ends up being a separate country from the Netherlands
- The later generations present a bit more of change, as a 30 Years’ War-like conflict still occurs, but lasts around double the time and has some dramatic effects on the Holy Roman Empire, those being that not only does the Austrian Branch of the House of Hapsburg turn protestant (they retain the title of Holy Roman Emperors by doing some word-wizardry basically in the sense of it “being a title granted by god to the King of Germany and not by the whim of the Pope”), which is one of the reasons why the war extends for so long (a civil war within the House of Hapsburg basically), but all Princely and Imperial Abbeys within the HRE are mediatized, but, instead of like OTL, German mediatization is that most of them are granted to branches or minor members of royal and noble houses of Europe, reason why the Duke of Marlborough is also the Prince-Bishopric of Fulda (The Churchill Family, BTW, never comes into being, as the father of the OTL first Duke of Marlborough is born a woman). Also, Spain gets brought down a peg or two in the war and ends up losing Navarre while their colonial empire fragments into various dynastic kingdoms (Spain proper only retains their territories in the Mediterranean and Africa together with some islands in the Caribbean)
- Portugal never loses it’s independence due to an alternate Sebastian I both not trying a Crusade in Morocco and being more religiously moderate, and ends up breaking with the Church during the TTL 30 Year’s War, with the Lusitanian Church being basically "Catholicism without the Pope"
- The kingdoms of France and Navarre are again separated (the second time this happens, the first one was after Joan I married Philip IV of France, it lasted from 1284 to 1328) as Henry IV has Louis XIII before schedule (meaning he is less against protestants as well) but Louis only has daughters and after him while his eldest gets a Navarre returned to its pre-Spain size his brother becomes King of France (his other daughter marries a brother of Thomas II, who becomes king of Belgium after it gains independence in the TTL 30 Years’ War)
- The colonization of the Americas by England ends up having a slightly more feudal manner, with nobles with fiefs being a fact in some parts of it (like the Earldom of Roanoke), and the Scottish manage to pull a Colony of Darien (also, as can be noticed, the Union of Crowns happens much later in comparison to OTL)
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