mind you there are other treaties of Versailles including the 2 just before the 7 years war....
Why the Chinese play cricket (The Pax Imperialis)
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don't forget that these days Ladies play it too. Personally I'd like to see that start earlier ITTL
I stand corrected cricket is played by gentlewomen, gentlemen, gentlepersons, and Australians.
Europe has only so many cities suitable for major treaties, so they tend to get recycled. I can think of four treaties of London off the top of my head and I dread to think how many Rome has stacked up
No it will be test cricket. And none of this three days malarkey. Two innings as long as it takes. When unless they need to catch a ship
Catching up and things continue to be both chaotic and settling down post War. Germany has settled into some stability, for now, but Austria and Hungary have extremists on both sides. Russia is a powder keg and just waiting to blow up.
Interesting treaty between the US and Japan. Seems to give more advantages to Japan with controlling the waters around China and the Philippines. Will this speed up the Philippines getting independence sooner and might Japan use their resources to gain extra privileges?
Interesting treaty between the US and Japan. Seems to give more advantages to Japan with controlling the waters around China and the Philippines. Will this speed up the Philippines getting independence sooner and might Japan use their resources to gain extra privileges?
The Great War is the death of Imperials Russia in both timelines
While the civil rights movement has started much earlier, it's going to be a much harder fight.
People are going to love Japan ITTL
1922
~1922: Told you so
January 1922: Italian nationalists lead by Gabriele D'Annunzio march into Fiume to "liberate" the city. The Croatians avoid the use of force, instead calling for the Entente to remove the nationalists.
January 1922: Communists under Béla Kun seize power in Budapest declaring the Hungarian Soviet Republic. The Hungarian government of Mihály Károlyi orders the small Hungarian army to end the uprising. However communist agitation results in many units defecting to the new Soviet government. Supported by Népi Hadsereg militias, these resist the government forces beginning the Hungarian Civil War.
February 1922: With the Campania and Laconia now beginning to show their age and the need to extend the RNs amphibious warfare capacity, the construction of a class of five new assault ship along with the establishment of a third Royal Marine brigade. The Campania is however retained as a training ship.
February 1922: With the militias of both left and right wing factions engaging one another as well as government forces, the Austrian army slowly begins to suppress both.
March 1922: Elections are held for the German Constituent Assembly. The right wing German National People's Party capitalises on the growing racism toward Jews to win 23% of the seats in the Assembly with a clearly racist program.
March 1922: Under a compromise arranged by the Entente, Italy imposes a blockade forcing the nationalists in Fiume to withdraw in return for a plebiscite to determine the city's fate. D'Annunzio however is hailed as a national hero by many in Italy, others however, satisfied with the post war settlement, are concerned at the possibility of drawn into a costly war.
March 1922: Prime Minister Smuts orders the South African miners strike crashed by military force. This action will cost him the support of the South African socialists.
April 1922: Despite its small size, the US cricket league has become one of the most progressive, introducing a women's first class league this year. However this is decried within the Empire as being the first step toward the ruining of the game.
April 1922: Germany, having financed its war effort through loans rather than taxation in the expectation of imposing massive reparations in victory, is now in an economic crisis. The ongoing reparation payments to the Entente worsens this massive debt load, triggering hyperinflation. However, though a large part of the crisis has been caused by the loans used to finance the war, the German public place the entire blame on the reparations imposed, greatly strengthening nationalist feeling and resentment toward the Treaty of Versailles.
20th April 1922: The US Naturalization Act is amended to allow Japanese immigrants to apply for citizenship.
May 1922: The Skua and Albatross seaplane carriers enter service. Based on 12,000 ton tankers, they rapidly prove successful.
May 1922: Unable to secure funding for the development of his autogyro, Cievra moves to the Empire where he attracts the attention of both the Air Ministry and Ministry of defence who begin funding the development of his project.
May 1922: The R21 crashes with heavy loss of life. The two remaining airships under construction are scrapped and an entirely new class designed incorporating the lessons of the disaster.
May1922: Using converted Vickers Vimy bombers, flights on the "Kangaroo route" linking London to Sydney begin.
June 1922: The Entente's harsh suppression of dissent continuing, Wallachian resistance to the occupation begins to take on the characteristics of a guerrilla war.
June 1922: With the extensive information gained during the Great War, the Japanese set about reforming and their army. Deeply concerned by the immense casualties, they begin looking for ways to avoid static warfare. Impressed by the use of tanks to achieve a breakthrough and mechanised forces in exploitation, the development of mechanised warfare, combined with Monash's shock tactics, is given a high priority. Also Imperial amphibious warfare doctrine is adopted with brigade sized Special Naval Landing Forces to be raised.
June 1922: With communist forces gaining the upper hand in the Hungarian Civil War, Admiral Miklós Horthy takes control of government forces in Hungary. Supported by right wing militias, he begins to secure eastern Hungary.
July 1922: With the economies shattered by the Great War, and already being massively indebted to the Empire, the Entente begin relying on US loans to recover from the war.
July 1922: Impressed by the Enfield rifle, the US adopts the M1903A1 Springfield with a short 24" barrel to replace the M1903 long rifle along with M1905 and M1907 carbines.
July 1922: The Hobart Imperial Conference accepts Chamberlain's proposal to complete the move to a full federation within five years. The matter of French attempts to create unrest in the Arab states. It is felt this will undermine Imperial influence and the decision is made directly support the Syrian rebels to reinforce the Empire's standing in the Arab world. This is the beginning of a cold war between the Empire and Entente.
August 1922: The plebiscite in Fiume elects to remain part of Croatia. A wave of outrage sweeps Italy with irredentists calling for war to gain the disputed territory. However the conservative Italian government of Antonio Salandra refuses to challenge the result.
August 1922: The German Constituent Assembly creates a new liberal constitution. Attempts to include a guarantee of minority rights are blocked by the German National People's Party.
September 1922: Believing their 8mm Nambu pistols to be underpowered due to experience in the Great War, the Japanese begin work on developing a replacement pistol and cartiridge.
September 1922: Mexican President Álvaro Obregón. requests an Imperial mission to rebuild their military in the wake of the Mexican War.
October 1922: Riots and protests erupt in St Petersburg, demanding reforms. Tsar Nicholas responds by ordering Cossack units to suppress the protests. However the Cossacks refuse to fire on the protesters and the unrest speads throughout Russia.
October 1922: The Austrian army finally suppresses the radical militias, leaving President Karl Renner's democratic Austria in control of the country. While Austrian Civil War has ended, government control remains fragile.
November 1922: The reparation payments imposed on Austrian and Hungarian are crippling both nation's economies. This is clearly a major factor feeding the unrest in the region. Lloyd George calls for a conference to moderate or restructure these reparations. While the US is supportive, the remaining Entente powers reject any such attempts out of hand.
November 1922: Ruprecht Wittelsbach of Bavaria is elected Germany's first president, with a social democratic majority in the Reichstag. However the continuing economic crisis allows the German National People's Party in gain 31% of the vote.
December 1922: Seeking begin to capitalise on the moderate stance of the US, the Empire begins a propaganda campaign to highlight the harsh methods used to suppress dissent in the Rheinland and Wallachia. The campaign finds immediate support in the liberal climate of the US.
December 1922: The French launch a massive campaign to end the Syrian revolt. Mass arrests and summary executions, coupled with a scorched earth campaign to destroy villages suppected of supporting the rebels largely restore order. However a hard core of rebels continue to resist and massive resentment is created throughout the Arab world.
December 1922: With Russia on the verge of revolution, Tsar Nicholas abdicates and a provisional government under Alexander Kerensky is formed. Kerensky declares the Russian Republic and begins democratic reforms. The new Republic moves into the moderate block in the Entente, greatly strengthening their influence.
January 1922: Italian nationalists lead by Gabriele D'Annunzio march into Fiume to "liberate" the city. The Croatians avoid the use of force, instead calling for the Entente to remove the nationalists.
January 1922: Communists under Béla Kun seize power in Budapest declaring the Hungarian Soviet Republic. The Hungarian government of Mihály Károlyi orders the small Hungarian army to end the uprising. However communist agitation results in many units defecting to the new Soviet government. Supported by Népi Hadsereg militias, these resist the government forces beginning the Hungarian Civil War.
February 1922: With the Campania and Laconia now beginning to show their age and the need to extend the RNs amphibious warfare capacity, the construction of a class of five new assault ship along with the establishment of a third Royal Marine brigade. The Campania is however retained as a training ship.
February 1922: With the militias of both left and right wing factions engaging one another as well as government forces, the Austrian army slowly begins to suppress both.
March 1922: Elections are held for the German Constituent Assembly. The right wing German National People's Party capitalises on the growing racism toward Jews to win 23% of the seats in the Assembly with a clearly racist program.
March 1922: Under a compromise arranged by the Entente, Italy imposes a blockade forcing the nationalists in Fiume to withdraw in return for a plebiscite to determine the city's fate. D'Annunzio however is hailed as a national hero by many in Italy, others however, satisfied with the post war settlement, are concerned at the possibility of drawn into a costly war.
March 1922: Prime Minister Smuts orders the South African miners strike crashed by military force. This action will cost him the support of the South African socialists.
April 1922: Despite its small size, the US cricket league has become one of the most progressive, introducing a women's first class league this year. However this is decried within the Empire as being the first step toward the ruining of the game.
April 1922: Germany, having financed its war effort through loans rather than taxation in the expectation of imposing massive reparations in victory, is now in an economic crisis. The ongoing reparation payments to the Entente worsens this massive debt load, triggering hyperinflation. However, though a large part of the crisis has been caused by the loans used to finance the war, the German public place the entire blame on the reparations imposed, greatly strengthening nationalist feeling and resentment toward the Treaty of Versailles.
20th April 1922: The US Naturalization Act is amended to allow Japanese immigrants to apply for citizenship.
May 1922: The Skua and Albatross seaplane carriers enter service. Based on 12,000 ton tankers, they rapidly prove successful.
May 1922: Unable to secure funding for the development of his autogyro, Cievra moves to the Empire where he attracts the attention of both the Air Ministry and Ministry of defence who begin funding the development of his project.
May 1922: The R21 crashes with heavy loss of life. The two remaining airships under construction are scrapped and an entirely new class designed incorporating the lessons of the disaster.
May1922: Using converted Vickers Vimy bombers, flights on the "Kangaroo route" linking London to Sydney begin.
June 1922: The Entente's harsh suppression of dissent continuing, Wallachian resistance to the occupation begins to take on the characteristics of a guerrilla war.
June 1922: With the extensive information gained during the Great War, the Japanese set about reforming and their army. Deeply concerned by the immense casualties, they begin looking for ways to avoid static warfare. Impressed by the use of tanks to achieve a breakthrough and mechanised forces in exploitation, the development of mechanised warfare, combined with Monash's shock tactics, is given a high priority. Also Imperial amphibious warfare doctrine is adopted with brigade sized Special Naval Landing Forces to be raised.
June 1922: With communist forces gaining the upper hand in the Hungarian Civil War, Admiral Miklós Horthy takes control of government forces in Hungary. Supported by right wing militias, he begins to secure eastern Hungary.
July 1922: With the economies shattered by the Great War, and already being massively indebted to the Empire, the Entente begin relying on US loans to recover from the war.
July 1922: Impressed by the Enfield rifle, the US adopts the M1903A1 Springfield with a short 24" barrel to replace the M1903 long rifle along with M1905 and M1907 carbines.
July 1922: The Hobart Imperial Conference accepts Chamberlain's proposal to complete the move to a full federation within five years. The matter of French attempts to create unrest in the Arab states. It is felt this will undermine Imperial influence and the decision is made directly support the Syrian rebels to reinforce the Empire's standing in the Arab world. This is the beginning of a cold war between the Empire and Entente.
August 1922: The plebiscite in Fiume elects to remain part of Croatia. A wave of outrage sweeps Italy with irredentists calling for war to gain the disputed territory. However the conservative Italian government of Antonio Salandra refuses to challenge the result.
August 1922: The German Constituent Assembly creates a new liberal constitution. Attempts to include a guarantee of minority rights are blocked by the German National People's Party.
September 1922: Believing their 8mm Nambu pistols to be underpowered due to experience in the Great War, the Japanese begin work on developing a replacement pistol and cartiridge.
September 1922: Mexican President Álvaro Obregón. requests an Imperial mission to rebuild their military in the wake of the Mexican War.
October 1922: Riots and protests erupt in St Petersburg, demanding reforms. Tsar Nicholas responds by ordering Cossack units to suppress the protests. However the Cossacks refuse to fire on the protesters and the unrest speads throughout Russia.
October 1922: The Austrian army finally suppresses the radical militias, leaving President Karl Renner's democratic Austria in control of the country. While Austrian Civil War has ended, government control remains fragile.
November 1922: The reparation payments imposed on Austrian and Hungarian are crippling both nation's economies. This is clearly a major factor feeding the unrest in the region. Lloyd George calls for a conference to moderate or restructure these reparations. While the US is supportive, the remaining Entente powers reject any such attempts out of hand.
November 1922: Ruprecht Wittelsbach of Bavaria is elected Germany's first president, with a social democratic majority in the Reichstag. However the continuing economic crisis allows the German National People's Party in gain 31% of the vote.
December 1922: Seeking begin to capitalise on the moderate stance of the US, the Empire begins a propaganda campaign to highlight the harsh methods used to suppress dissent in the Rheinland and Wallachia. The campaign finds immediate support in the liberal climate of the US.
December 1922: The French launch a massive campaign to end the Syrian revolt. Mass arrests and summary executions, coupled with a scorched earth campaign to destroy villages suppected of supporting the rebels largely restore order. However a hard core of rebels continue to resist and massive resentment is created throughout the Arab world.
December 1922: With Russia on the verge of revolution, Tsar Nicholas abdicates and a provisional government under Alexander Kerensky is formed. Kerensky declares the Russian Republic and begins democratic reforms. The new Republic moves into the moderate block in the Entente, greatly strengthening their influence.
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Well some peace has settled in Austria and Hungary, but that may not last. Italy is again denied her wishes, and this may be an issue if she might decide to ignore the plebiscite and take Fiume and other lands.
Unsaid, but how is the Balkan League taking all the fighting near their borders? Has there been much emigration and persons fleeing the war torn countryside of Austria/Hungary/Romania?
So the Tsar abdicates, but did he stay in Russia or go into exile? Did any of the Imperial Family try to stay behind and work with the new Republic? Is Alexei still alive ITTL? Even with the fighting stopping for now, it may just be a pause before the REAL fighting and mass revolutions start.
Unsaid, but how is the Balkan League taking all the fighting near their borders? Has there been much emigration and persons fleeing the war torn countryside of Austria/Hungary/Romania?
So the Tsar abdicates, but did he stay in Russia or go into exile? Did any of the Imperial Family try to stay behind and work with the new Republic? Is Alexei still alive ITTL? Even with the fighting stopping for now, it may just be a pause before the REAL fighting and mass revolutions start.
It seems like 1915 was the best time for the Central Powers to win this alt-WWI.
Without the grim seriousness of later years or the degrading of non-German power in the alliance, attempts at prosecuting a single unified war effort went nowhere and CP efforts were frittered away on multiple inconclusive fronts.
I think the best option would have been the suggested Balkan campaign to open up the Ottomans to supply and eliminate a war front that they could all focus on.
France is easier to hold against without early British efforts and the density of the trenches there means any attempt at an offence is bloody for the Germans.
If Germany is holding against the French and focusing on the Balkans, any spare units can be allocated to minor offenses against the Russians.
Ideally, the Entente Balkan powers fall in a year of concerted campaigning against every Central Power, setting them up for a combined assault on Russia in 1916.
Without the grim seriousness of later years or the degrading of non-German power in the alliance, attempts at prosecuting a single unified war effort went nowhere and CP efforts were frittered away on multiple inconclusive fronts.
I think the best option would have been the suggested Balkan campaign to open up the Ottomans to supply and eliminate a war front that they could all focus on.
France is easier to hold against without early British efforts and the density of the trenches there means any attempt at an offence is bloody for the Germans.
If Germany is holding against the French and focusing on the Balkans, any spare units can be allocated to minor offenses against the Russians.
Ideally, the Entente Balkan powers fall in a year of concerted campaigning against every Central Power, setting them up for a combined assault on Russia in 1916.
Yes 1915: Was the year they could have won, and yep the frittered away their chance by failing to concentrate on one goal. Any of them could have done it, but yeah the Balkans campaign was the best option. Regardless, trying to do all three was a disaster. This was when the Entente was at its weakest. I imagine the alt history boards will be filled with topics like WI the CPs had focused on the Balkans in 1915, WI the Tacoma hadn't been sunk, WI the CPs hadn't invaded Norway, WI Scheer had won the Battle of Jutland etc.