Why the Chinese play cricket (The Pax Imperialis)

The war is getting increasingly bloody. North America looks like WW1, Europe is a mess and the only theatre that is really seeing movement in Asia. I'm sensing over the overall strategy of the CW is to do something that would have been in any other TL, unthinkable. Knock the US out of the war first. How big is the CW commitment in North America now?
I don't think CW can spare the resources to knock USA out of the war - the US may try the same on Canada but to be honest that option would most likely end up like a Kaiserschlacht . Some initial gains but unlikely to achieve it's goal.

The US is unlikely to have the same economic issues as Germany so the only collapse would be in the will to continue the war. And that might only occur after a failed offensive. So perversely the best chance for the CW to knock the US out of the war is for the US to move to an all out offensive??????????????
 
I don't think CW can spare the resources to knock USA out of the war - the US may try the same on Canada but to be honest that option would most likely end up like a Kaiserschlacht . Some initial gains but unlikely to achieve it's goal.

The US is unlikely to have the same economic issues as Germany so the only collapse would be in the will to continue the war. And that might only occur after a failed offensive. So perversely the best chance for the CW to knock the US out of the war is for the US to move to an all out offensive??????????????

We've also got to consider to what extent the USA relies on overseas trade, both import and export, and how much the CW is cutting them down.
 
I wonder what a blockaded USA would be like, what kind of identity would be formed after they have been blockaded, bombed and their territory occupied?
 
I wonder what a blockaded USA would be like, what kind of identity would be formed after they have been blockaded, bombed and their territory occupied?
They would all turn into Rambo clones uttering monosyllabic grunts carrying automatic weapons?

(Any resemblance to current American special interest groups is entirely in the mind of the reader:biggrin:).
 
We've also got to consider to what extent the USA relies on overseas trade, both import and export, and how much the CW is cutting them down.

I mean if the CW wants to spread its fleet thin patrolling 4,000 miles of American Coast I’m sure the USN would welcome the opportunity to hit the CW piecemeal
 
The war is getting increasingly bloody. North America looks like WW1, Europe is a mess and the only theatre that is really seeing movement in Asia. I'm sensing over the overall strategy of the CW is to do something that would have been in any other TL, unthinkable. Knock the US out of the war first. How big is the CW commitment in North America now?

The US is actually learning in the North American Theatre, Bradley's campaign in British Colombia is actually proving very successful (if it needs to be taken don't tap it thump it and don't give up when the casualties mount, otherwise slowly grind it down minimizing loses in any one unit). It's just in the east they have't figured it out yet. The CW is not trying to knock the US out, they're trying to just hold the line.
 
The war is getting increasingly bloody. North America looks like WW1, Europe is a mess and the only theatre that is really seeing movement in Asia. I'm sensing over the overall strategy of the CW is to do something that would have been in any other TL, unthinkable. Knock the US out of the war first. How big is the CW commitment in North America now?

I’m thinking they can’t even if they wanted to. The US has pushed to the banks of the St Lawrence and the territory connecting Nova Scotia to the rest of Canada is thin. With the St Lawrence closed for traffic the only ways to supply the Armies in the Ontario Peninsula is through rail lines running north of the St Lawrence via Quebec City and the rail line from Halifax. Both of those locations are likely being heavily contested by the USAF and I’m guessing US Tacair units are taking horrendous loss trying to hit the St Lawrence bridges while the rail lines from Nova Scotia require constant attention from CW engineers and US long range artillery
 
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Oh wow this is back hooray! So much to go over!!

Shame about that battleship lobby but I guess the superiority of carriers hasn't been as conclusively proven as in OTL. Gonna bite the US in the ass though. Can't help but notice how little the building program is making though. Really goes to show how much the US is already straining in the war.

With the extra 54 divisions being raised the US has more or less maxed out their manpower. They are going to rapidly run into diminishing returns after this final call up.

Panama canal fixed! Time for a raid on the US West Coast. Even a small raid will force the US to pull back a large part of their fleet from the Western Pacific and will essentially leave Japan alone. In addition the need to transfer troops and equipment to the West Cost to defend against other raids will just put more strain on the US army and infrastructure.

I don't recall but is the CW essentially ignoring US - Entente trade in the interests of not escalating to war with the Entente? Otherwise I don't see how the US is exporting oil to France

Eastern Canada is probably going to fall outside of the maritimes within the next year to 18months but I really cannot stress what a waste of resources the US is doing by throwing 17 divisions at the Mountains of BC. Going from Chilliwack to Hope totally doable. Going anywhere beyond that is going to be impossible even if the US throws 100 divisions. Even if Canada has built all of the modern infrastructure that exists in the present day BC going from Hope there are precisely 3 roads and a single rail line. All roads are 110-130 km to the nearest population centre and are more or less carved out of the sides of mountains with zero room to maneuver or flank and are 2 lanes for large stretches, they are also impassable for 4 or 5 months a years due to snow without clearing services that I imagine would be difficult when people are shooting the plows. In the same way that the CW is going to look at the war and say they should have thrown fewer divisions into Eastern Canada the US is going to say they should have bottled up Interior BC and than removed everything and everyone for other theatres.
 
We've also got to consider to what extent the USA relies on overseas trade, both import and export, and how much the CW is cutting them down.

In the OTL I believe foreign trade represented 8% of the US gdp in the 1930s (I stand ready to be corrected and would really appreciate if I am). ITTL I'm basing off that figure.
 
I’m thinking they can’t even if they wanted to. The US has pushed to the banks of the St Lawrence and the territory connecting Nova Scotia to the rest of Canada is thin. With the St Lawrence closed for traffic the only ways to supply the Armies in the Ontario Peninsula is through rail lines running north of the St Lawrence via Quebec City and the rail line from Halifax. Both of those locations are likely being heavily contested by the USAF and I’m guessing US Tacair units are taking horrendous loss trying to hit the St Lawrence bridges while the rail lines from Nova Scotia require constant attention from CW engineers and US long range artillery

Not entirely correct, the St Lawrence is open to Quebec which is the second largest port in Canada. Yes it's not ice free during winter but it is open a good portion of the year and the CW has invested in ice breakers. Yes the USAF is paying a lot of attention both to the ports, rail lines, bridges etc not to mention shipping on the St Lawrence itself. But the cW is likewise paying a lot of attention to defending these. Communications in Eastern Canada are under heavy attack and by the end of the war the eastern Canadian cities will look a little like Germany in 1945
 
1942c Europe
~July to September 1942 (European War): A job well done

July 1942: Kemal's OTO begins an assault on Smyra. The three Russian divisions defending the Greek enclave are no match for the overwhelming Turkish force and begin to fall back. The advancing Turks begin murdering many Greek civilians.

July 1942: With the Russian forces facing Breast now having been seriously weakened to provide reinforcements for other fronts the Warsaw Pact begins planning a limited offensive to drive the Russians away from the city. The Italian First Army Group under Giuseppe Tellera is withdrawn from the Balkans, to assault the weakened Russian positions with the Polish Vistula Army Group under Juliusz Rómmel.

July 1942: The Russians introduce a new tank to replace their BT series. The T34 combines the mobility of the BT series with improved armour and an L/30.5 76.2mm. The new tank, while not fully a match for the Warsaw Pact's Panzer IVs, is a marked improvement on earlier Entente tanks.

July 1942: Čihák's Constantinople Army Group seizes Zonguldak, cutting the Russians in Turkey off from the Sea.

July 1942: The first Luftwaffe Lancaster and Sydney bombers launch a raid against Paris. Escorted by Mustang fighters, the raid proves a huge success, hitting the French capital for the first time. The Luftwaffe immediately order another 1,000 heavy bombers from the CW to continue the campaign.

July 1942: With the fall of Symra inevitable, the Russian Mediterranean Fleet begins an evacuation to the Crete. Fearful of the advancing Turks, many Greek citizens attempt to flee in panic to the island.

July 1942: Messe's advancing North African Army outflanks the Mareth Line to take Gabès, securing both the port and railhead. Leaving a force to hold the city and prevent any French move from Gafsa, Messe continues his offensive along the coast.

August 1942: Symra falls to the Turks. The conquest of Symra is accompanied by the mass murder and persecution of the local Greek population.

August 1942: The trapped Russian forces in Turkey under General Mikhail Diterikhs launch a desperate attack in a bid to retake Zonguldak.

August 1942: The Spanish Republicans, supported by partisans harassing the Nationalists rear, launch a limited attack on a weak point of the Nationalists positions at Cordoba. The defenders, composed of second line newly raised conscripts, buckle and rout. The disaster at Cordoba forces General Emilio Mola to divert troops from the recently retaken Grenada in an effort to halt the collapse.

August 1942: The Italian Nimbo Airborne and La Spezia Airlanding Divisions launch an airborne assault of Crete. The dispirited Greek defenders are no match for the Italians and the island quickly falls. The assault is seen as a vindication of the airlanding concept and most nations will soon begin to form their own airlanding units.

August 1942: With it clear Crete will fall and with no means of escape, Admiral Vladimir Alafuzov sails the Russian Mediterranean Fleet to Alexandria to be interned. The removal of the Russian fleet allows the Italians to concentrate their forces against the French in the western Mediterranean.

August 1942: The Turks begin a landing on Rhodes. The obsolete Greek battlecruisers Salamis and Konstantinos attempt to stop the landing but come under heavy Turkish air attack. The Konstantinos is forced to beach to avoid sinking, while the crippled Salami retreats to Rhodes to use its guns in support the Greek garrison.

September 1942: The Italians take Mahrès in Tunisia. Messe pauses his advance to allow for resupply.

September 1942: The French begin producing the Russian T34 tank as the Char R27T.

September 1942: With the success of the airborne assault of Crete, the Italians begin forming a third airborne and second airlanding division. The Folgore Airborne Division is also dispatched to Tunisia to reinforce the North African Army.

September 1942: Despite fierce Greek resistance the Rhodes garrison is overwhelmed by Turkish forces.

September 1942: The Italians and Poles begin their offensive at Breast. Mikhail Tukhachevsky's depleted Belarusian Army Group, unable to face the weight of the assault, begins to give ground

September 1942: The Turks occupy Lesbos and the other remaining Greek offshore islands.

September 1942: With the Nationalist forces facing them at Grenada now seriously reduced to face the crisis at Cordoba, the Republicans launch a counter offensive to retake the city. The depleted nationalist forces are unable to hold the attack and Grenada falls within a week.

September 1942: With their supplies exhausted and unable to breakthrough the Warsaw Pact lines to reach Zonguldak, the remnants of Diterikhs army group surrender, ending Entente resistance in Eastern Mediterranean. The reduction of Turkey allows further Pact troops to be released for the Baltic, German and Polish fronts.
 
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1942c Transpacific Pacific Theatre
~July to September 1942 (Transpacific War, Pacific Theatre): A false start

July 1942: Additional CW troops begin arriving in Timor, giving the CW a decisive advantage in fighting for the island.

July 1942: With the Pacific Alliance's carriers having been withdrawn to the upcoming operation against the Andaman Islands, Admiral John Crace's Pacific Fleet, now with two Ark Royal fleet and two Centaur light carriers, begins a series of strikes against Alliance positions in the Pacific.

July 1942: The CW begins planning for Operation Decon, an invasion of New Caledonia. However, initial efforts are to be on retaking the Solomon Islands and New Hebrides in an effort to isolate the island and avoid the need for an invasion. Simultaneously the French are informed the island may be taken if the Pacific Alliance bases are not removed.

August 1942: The CW resume their offensive in Papua, striking into New Guinea. Though the resistance is fierce, the CW begins to make slow progress.

August 1942: Three additional CW divisions are landed on Timor, allowing the 5th Assault Corps to be withdrawn for refitting.

August 1942: With the Asiatic Fleet having been reinforced by two Kaiyo escort carriers, Admiral Thomas Hart again attempts to gain naval superiority around Timor. The Battle of the Flores Sea sees the Dutch carrier Timor and Japanese Shinyo sunk. But with the St Joseph crippled, Helfrich's East Indies Fleet is left without aircover and forced to withdraw to Australia.

September 1942: With the supply lines now cut, the CW forces on Timor are forced on to the defensive. CW engineers begin the urgent construction of airbases to provide aircover to supply convoys.

September 1942: CW troops land on Guadalcanal to begin the recapture of the Solomon Islands.

September 1942: The CW transfers three Colossus class light carriers to the Netherlands to make up for the losses they have suffered. In the interim, three further CW Colossus class carriers are assigned to Helfrich's East Indies Fleet.

September 1942: With naval superiority around Timor now secured, the PA begins reinforcing their troops for a counteroffensive to retake the island.
 
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Timor operation seems to have been a big CF for the CW. Surprised they had to withdraw the troops so quickly - would have thought the likely losses in maritime assets required to maintain the troops would have been worth preventing the loss of 3+ divisions worth of heavy equipment in theatre.
 
July 1942: The Russians introduce a new tank to replace their BT series. The T34 combines the mobility of the BT series with improved armour and an L/30.5 76.2mm. The new tank, while not fully a match for the Warsaw Pact's Panzer IVs, is a marked improvement on earlier Entente tanks.
Roughly the same as OTL's T34? A year or so later, mind.
August 1942: The Italian Nimbo Airborne and La Spezia Airlanding Divisions launch an airborne assault of Crete. The dispirited Greek defenders are no match for the Italians and the island quickly falls. The assault is seen as a vindication of the airlanding concept and most nations will soon begin to form their own airlanding units.
Something about Crete must make it a magnet for airborne forces.
September 1942: The Italians and Poles begin their offensive at Breast.
Another Freudian slip, I'm afraid.

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Timor operation seems to have been a big CF for the CW. Surprised they had to withdraw the troops so quickly - would have thought the likely losses in maritime assets required to maintain the troops would have been worth preventing the loss of 3+ divisions worth of heavy equipment in theatre.

Yes that is a point, I'll rethink it.
 
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