This Cecily of York was the posthumous daughter of Richard of York and Cecily Neville. She has a twin named Joan, married/betrothed to the Duke of Rothesay,
The Four Suns in Splendour: A Wars of the Roses Collaborative Timeline
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You’re right I meant to say King of Castile. Sorry. As for Juana, I thought she was sent to a nunnery.
I mean my idea was for him to cool his heals in England for a few years or if Brittany was to be recovered, it would be through the military efforts of actual adults. As for Burgundy, I’d love for it to continue I just think other people here write battles better so I set up the campaign than waited for someone else to resolve it
....and that's what is happening - adult civilians are taking up arms to fight back.
So that kind of makes fighting the Scots harder. Sorry about that. I just couldn’t find them on the tree. In the future I will hear this in mind with my writing.
Fair, annexing the Duchy was probably not going to go down well with the local nobility even if they are tired of war. But the were rallied by a seven year old.
Oh. Is that too ASB? I'll say his regents did that instead
If you really want to make it interesting have Jean de Rohan do the rallying. After all, he has a claim to the Duchy but Louis has kept him from crowing himself Duke. You could also say the reason he let Francis go after falling was a way to keep the King from claiming the duchy for himself. At the head of a rebellion he can then offer Louis a deal, make him Duke and restore Brittany’s independence but sever it’s ties to England, or waste resources he would like to spend on Burgundy.
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Don’t you mean France?
Technically this is asb since an earthquake would not an ASB to occur since it’s hard for human actions to make one occur. I’ll let it slide. But no more earthquakes. Storms are okay though since this war between France and England is going to put a lot of smoke into the sky, which is bound to have an effect.
Chapter 45 - Scraping the Barrel
May 1469: Louis is snowed under. He has just lost his beloved wife and is now facing a popular revolt in Brittany and a war against Castile in the south. He needs something, anything to relieve France. Then it hits him. Edward hasn’t killed the Lancastrian cause yet, he has merely scorched it. Soon, French agents sneak into England and whisk John Beaufort away from his Monastery and bring him to France, where he is paraded as King John II.
Now, Louis isn’t hoping that John actually gets the throne, but merely that he serves as a distraction for Edward, while he deals with these fronts he’s facing. John however, attracts support from diehard Lancastrians. The Baron of Clifford resurfaces after years in hiding, as does Sir Andrew Trollope, Henry Percy, 3rd Earl of Northumberland and his brother Sir Ralph Percy, alongside Sir John Courtenay and the Baron of Ros. Also present is Edward Tudor, son of Owen Tudor who seeks to avenge his father and brother.
These handful of Lancastrians become the centre of Louis plot to start rebellions across England. He establishes contact between ‘King’ John and dissatisfied peasants, tired of taxation and little aid following the famine. The King of Scotland also pledged his support to the Lancastrians. By the month’s end the Lancastrians have planned to launch three fronts in England; Cornwall, Wales and Northumberland. But first, John needs a ‘Queen’. This Queen is none other than Gabrielle of Montpensier, a cousin of Louis’s late Queen. The two are married in a small ceremony and the marriage is consummated on the wedding night.
Now, at this point one would note that John is a monk and so far, he has done very un-monkly things. However, the Universal Spider has that covered, for he has written a letter to the Pope, appealing for John to be allowed renounce his vows. The letter is beautifully written and kind to the Pope, so Louis has no concerns about the Pope rejecting his offer, especially since he made sure to slide in a few thousand francs. Now, Louis can amass his Lancastrian puppet’s armies.
Now, Louis isn’t hoping that John actually gets the throne, but merely that he serves as a distraction for Edward, while he deals with these fronts he’s facing. John however, attracts support from diehard Lancastrians. The Baron of Clifford resurfaces after years in hiding, as does Sir Andrew Trollope, Henry Percy, 3rd Earl of Northumberland and his brother Sir Ralph Percy, alongside Sir John Courtenay and the Baron of Ros. Also present is Edward Tudor, son of Owen Tudor who seeks to avenge his father and brother.
These handful of Lancastrians become the centre of Louis plot to start rebellions across England. He establishes contact between ‘King’ John and dissatisfied peasants, tired of taxation and little aid following the famine. The King of Scotland also pledged his support to the Lancastrians. By the month’s end the Lancastrians have planned to launch three fronts in England; Cornwall, Wales and Northumberland. But first, John needs a ‘Queen’. This Queen is none other than Gabrielle of Montpensier, a cousin of Louis’s late Queen. The two are married in a small ceremony and the marriage is consummated on the wedding night.
Now, at this point one would note that John is a monk and so far, he has done very un-monkly things. However, the Universal Spider has that covered, for he has written a letter to the Pope, appealing for John to be allowed renounce his vows. The letter is beautifully written and kind to the Pope, so Louis has no concerns about the Pope rejecting his offer, especially since he made sure to slide in a few thousand francs. Now, Louis can amass his Lancastrian puppet’s armies.
Chapter 46 - John Stops Trying
June 1469: "John II" himself honestly does not care about any Lancastrian cause. He is a monk, he doesn't have any particular grudge against Edward IV's reign (even if he thinks the man himself is a sinful degenerate), and the famine didn't really affect him in his monastery. He also does not like his wife at all. He writes a letter to the Pope asking if he can return to his former life but the Pope refuses. Thus, he writes to Edward IV, warning him of what is likely to happen.
Chapter 47 - A Claimant Aborted
July 1469: Louis XI offends the Pope by suggesting in a letter that it’s the Vatican’s fault that Edward IV is on the throne. Sixtus proceeds to annul the unconsummated marriage between John Beaufort and his “wife”. Edward IV, always generous, allows John to return to England as a monk. He also makes vows to be faithful to his wife, even though both Eleanor Woodville is pregnant again. Queen Magdalene of England gives birth to a healthy son named Richard, Duke of York. The child, like his elder siblings, is the spitting image of his father, with blonde hair and blue eyes. Isabella, Princess of Girona, gives birth to a son named Juan. Aragon is more secured by this, and also by the popularity of Ferdinand and Isabella. Margaret, Countess of Warwick, gives birth to a son named Edward, which is bound to her her final child as she nearly dies during the birth and will never bleed again. Warwick does not show anger and celebrates with the woman he truly loves.
Births:
Richard, Duke of York, son of Edward IV and Magdalena of France
Juan, Infante of Aragon, son of Ferdinand, Prince of Girona and Isabella of Castile
Edward Neville, son of Richard Neville, Earl of Warwick, and Margaret of Anjou
Pregnancies:
Eleanor, Countess of Worcester, due January 1470
Births:
Richard, Duke of York, son of Edward IV and Magdalena of France
Juan, Infante of Aragon, son of Ferdinand, Prince of Girona and Isabella of Castile
Edward Neville, son of Richard Neville, Earl of Warwick, and Margaret of Anjou
Pregnancies:
Eleanor, Countess of Worcester, due January 1470
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Chapter 48 - An Unexpected Pregnancy
August 1469: The Lancastrian holdouts in France are stilted by John’s abandonment of them. Edward IV meanwhile, celebrates with wine and soon offers to make John a Bishop for his efforts. The happiness of the York Court comes crashing down when the divorced Gabrielle announces her pregnancy. Both she and her servants declare that John is the father. John himself remains silent on the matter, wanting to remove himself from politics. Louis XI is ecstatic and sends his best physicians to care for Gabrielle. The child shall be the future of the Lancastrians.
Meanwhile, Louis XI has Juana la Beltraneja freed from her nunnery in Castile and brings her to France. There she is proclaimed the rightful Queen of Castile and is betrothed to Prince Charles, Duke of Valois. Louis soon begins plotting to place the girl on the throne and rallies any support he can for the Queen-claimant. He dispatches 9,000 men to attack the Castilians. Meanwhile, he sends 11,000 to attack the English in Normandy.
Meanwhile, Louis XI has Juana la Beltraneja freed from her nunnery in Castile and brings her to France. There she is proclaimed the rightful Queen of Castile and is betrothed to Prince Charles, Duke of Valois. Louis soon begins plotting to place the girl on the throne and rallies any support he can for the Queen-claimant. He dispatches 9,000 men to attack the Castilians. Meanwhile, he sends 11,000 to attack the English in Normandy.
Chapter 49 - Meeting
September 1469: Emperor Friedrich III arranges for the first meeting of his son Maximilian and his betrothed Emma of Burgundy in Innsbruck. Although initially shy around her future husband, the ten-year-old Emma surprises the Archduke and the Emperor with her flawless German. Likewise, Empress Eleanor is delighted at having Emma as her daughter-in-law.
Chapter 50 - Long Live the Queen
October 1469: John Beaufort is pretty certain that the child is not his. The marriage was not consummated. Well, he supposes it could have happened while he was unconscious, but he does not consume alcohol so he rules out any possibility of drunkenly losing his virginity. Thus, when Gabrielle gives birth to a stillborn boy, he does not try to contain his glee. Edward IV does maintain faithful to his wife, Queen Magdalena of England, for the remainder of her life. However, exhausted by multiple pregnancies, she dies at the age of twenty five. The exact cause of her death was disputed among sources and historians: while some alleged that she died in childbirth or after a miscarriage, others believed that she died for exhaustion after her many pregnancies and finally some believed that she died from syphilis caught from her husband. Whatever the reason, Edward IV is in need of a new queen, and the atmosphere at court becomes considerably more debauched.
Chapter 51 - Fall of Luxembourg
May 1469
Upon hearing of the devastation of his army caused by a landslide in the Alps, Duke Amadeus suffers an attack of epilepsy. Despite the efforts of his doctors and the prayers of his family, the Duke passes. His son Charles is proclaimed Duke with Yolande of Valois named as regent. Savoy will soon be in chaos and everyone prepares to take advantage of the opportunity.
The war in Burgundy rages on. All of Luxemburg falls to Charles of Loraine.
With the Italian army routed before even taking to the battlefield John of Bourbon launches a Chevauche of Burgundy. Peasants are killed, fields despoiled, towns burned. But Bourbon does not have enough men to take any of the Burgundian strong points and must content himself with pillage.
King Louis launches a counterattack to recover Normandy. With Swiss, Gendarme, and Cannon, the English and Burgudnians are driven back. Edward orders a garrison to hold Le Harve in hopes of slowing Louis down, or at least providing better conditions for peace talks. A force under the Duke of Anjou is detached to lay siege while the rest of the army continues its pursuit of the Anglo-Burgundian force. Meanwhile, the descendants of the English settlers of Burgundy are subject to savage reprisals. Many are killed. Many more are driven from their homes and deported to central France where they will be in no position to cause harm.
King Edward and Duke Charles decide that they must make a stand before Calais.
June - September 1469
Queen Magdalena and the former Queen Margret had spent their confinement together, Margret continuing to serve as a mentor and a shoulder for her younger cousin to lean on. Exhausted and bedridden from the birth of her child, the Queen is waited on by her friends and children, all of whom love her dearly. She is the happiest she has been in years. Her death is a complete shock and the court is plunged into mourning.
Yolande of Valois discovers she is pregnant by her late husband.
The Scotish wage a successful fighting retreat, delaying Duke Edmund's advance into the country.
King Edward's ever-devoted companion Jane Shore discovers she is pregnant. Implausibly she and the King will claim that Jane's impotent husband is the father, a fiction maintained by all, and believed by none. The Queen at least appreciated Jane's discretion and decides that she is her favorite of her husband's mistresses, which is not saying much.
Isabel Neville is pregnant again, the product of her husband briefly visiting from the Scottish front. George may be a prick but he is a remarkably caring husband to Isabel.
As during her first pregnancy, he writes her letter after letter asking about her health and offering encouragement. Though it sometimes annoys her, Isabel knows there are worse things in the world than a husband who loves her too much.
On Cyprus, Queen Charlotte discovers that she is once again with child. Philip, recognizing that the situation in Savoy is about to change radically, plots to return to Savoy, and get away from his Venetian betrothal.
In Gelderland, young Anne Neville miscarries a child she did not even know she was expecting. The 14-year-old duchess is sent into a spiral of depression and shuts herself up in her rooms. Margret of Anjou and Richard Neville vow to visit as soon as they are able, besides, having looked at the state of England's finances they deduce that nobody involved in this conflict can afford to continue the war for another year, especially with King Louis shifting focus to Iberia. And who better to negotiate a peace agreement than the King's most able councilor and a French Princess of the Blood? Meanwhile, the Duchess Anne finds comfort in an unexpected friend, Elanor Woodville, who has been sent to the relative safety of Gelderland for the duration of her pregnancy.
Pregnancies
Yolande of Valois (due in January 1470)
Jane Shore (due Febuary 1470)
Charlotte Queen of Cyprus (due March 1470)
Anne Neville, Duchess of Clarence (due March 1470)
Elanor Woodville (due ?).
Upon hearing of the devastation of his army caused by a landslide in the Alps, Duke Amadeus suffers an attack of epilepsy. Despite the efforts of his doctors and the prayers of his family, the Duke passes. His son Charles is proclaimed Duke with Yolande of Valois named as regent. Savoy will soon be in chaos and everyone prepares to take advantage of the opportunity.
The war in Burgundy rages on. All of Luxemburg falls to Charles of Loraine.
With the Italian army routed before even taking to the battlefield John of Bourbon launches a Chevauche of Burgundy. Peasants are killed, fields despoiled, towns burned. But Bourbon does not have enough men to take any of the Burgundian strong points and must content himself with pillage.
King Louis launches a counterattack to recover Normandy. With Swiss, Gendarme, and Cannon, the English and Burgudnians are driven back. Edward orders a garrison to hold Le Harve in hopes of slowing Louis down, or at least providing better conditions for peace talks. A force under the Duke of Anjou is detached to lay siege while the rest of the army continues its pursuit of the Anglo-Burgundian force. Meanwhile, the descendants of the English settlers of Burgundy are subject to savage reprisals. Many are killed. Many more are driven from their homes and deported to central France where they will be in no position to cause harm.
King Edward and Duke Charles decide that they must make a stand before Calais.
June - September 1469
Queen Magdalena and the former Queen Margret had spent their confinement together, Margret continuing to serve as a mentor and a shoulder for her younger cousin to lean on. Exhausted and bedridden from the birth of her child, the Queen is waited on by her friends and children, all of whom love her dearly. She is the happiest she has been in years. Her death is a complete shock and the court is plunged into mourning.
Yolande of Valois discovers she is pregnant by her late husband.
The Scotish wage a successful fighting retreat, delaying Duke Edmund's advance into the country.
King Edward's ever-devoted companion Jane Shore discovers she is pregnant. Implausibly she and the King will claim that Jane's impotent husband is the father, a fiction maintained by all, and believed by none. The Queen at least appreciated Jane's discretion and decides that she is her favorite of her husband's mistresses, which is not saying much.
Isabel Neville is pregnant again, the product of her husband briefly visiting from the Scottish front. George may be a prick but he is a remarkably caring husband to Isabel.
As during her first pregnancy, he writes her letter after letter asking about her health and offering encouragement. Though it sometimes annoys her, Isabel knows there are worse things in the world than a husband who loves her too much.
On Cyprus, Queen Charlotte discovers that she is once again with child. Philip, recognizing that the situation in Savoy is about to change radically, plots to return to Savoy, and get away from his Venetian betrothal.
In Gelderland, young Anne Neville miscarries a child she did not even know she was expecting. The 14-year-old duchess is sent into a spiral of depression and shuts herself up in her rooms. Margret of Anjou and Richard Neville vow to visit as soon as they are able, besides, having looked at the state of England's finances they deduce that nobody involved in this conflict can afford to continue the war for another year, especially with King Louis shifting focus to Iberia. And who better to negotiate a peace agreement than the King's most able councilor and a French Princess of the Blood? Meanwhile, the Duchess Anne finds comfort in an unexpected friend, Elanor Woodville, who has been sent to the relative safety of Gelderland for the duration of her pregnancy.
Pregnancies
Yolande of Valois (due in January 1470)
Jane Shore (due Febuary 1470)
Charlotte Queen of Cyprus (due March 1470)
Anne Neville, Duchess of Clarence (due March 1470)
Elanor Woodville (due ?).
Chapter 52 - Mistresses at War
December 1469: Jane Shore miscarries her child, but Eleanor Woodville successfully gives birth to triplet girls whom she names Eleanor, Matilda and Joan. Eleanor boldly gives her daughters the name Fitzroy. Her fertility infuriates her sister Elizabeth, who has never been able to successfully carry a multiple birth yet. It is only Eleanor's death that quells Elizabeth's jealousy.
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Not sure if you meant to do this but Elizabeth already had a daughter named Jacquetta. Also Syphilis has not been encountered yet, unless someone discovered the new World in the last ten years.
I realize. But Eleanor's the one who named her daughter