lancastrian

  1. No Pretenders To Lancastrian Rule After Henry V?

    Elizabeth Mortimer (1371-1417). No Issue. Anne de Mortimer (1388-1409). No Issue. Richard of Conisburgh (1385-1415). No issue. Isabel Despenser (1400-1402). Constance of York (1375-1404). Anne of Gloucester (1383-1401). No Issue I believe with the death of Edmund Mortimer in 1425, who was a...
  2. Ursogulos

    WI: Longer FitzGerald rebellion: A possible Lancastrian Ireland?

    After judicial killing of Thomas FitzGerald, 7th earl of Desmond by John Tiptoft, FitzGerald family led a short uprising. It was only quelled after an ultimatum by Edward IV where he gave them two choices, lay down arms and be forgiven or fight. It always struk me as odd why the FitzGerald...
  3. RedKing

    WI: Edward IV dies in 1469

    In otl, the Earl of Warwick led an army against Edward IV at the Battle of Edgecote in 1469, which saw Edward captured. But what if Edward IV died, say a stray arrow hits him in the eye (Godwin style) or a soldier doesn’t recognise him and slashes him down. What happens next? Obviosuly, Warwick...
  4. RedKing

    The Four Suns in Splendour: A Wars of the Roses Collaborative Timeline
    Threadmarks: Chapter 1 - The Escape

    December 30th 1460: The Battle of Wakefield has just ended. It has been a disaster for the Yorkists, with their leader, Richard of York falling alongside his close ally the Earl of Salisbury. York’s son, Edmund flees from the Battle, with a vengeful Baron, John Clifford in pursuit. For a moment...
  5. Question:How would the united white and rose in reverse be called

    Many have talked about the marriage between Edward V and Anne of Lancaster (postumus daughter of EoL, even if i always thought it his called Margaret) that reunites the roses but how would this rose be called like? I imagine that will be similar to the Tudor rose but in reverse.
  6. RedKing

    What if: Battle of St Mortimer’s Cross, a Lancastrian Victory

    The Battle of St Mortimer’s Cross, is becoming an obsession of mine as of late. The battle, while seemingly insignificant at first glance, could’ve changed the course of the Wars of the Roses forever, had the outcome be different. The result saw the victory of the Yorkists led by Edward of York...
  7. Alternate Wars of the Roses, in which a Lancastrian still reigns on the throne?

    BEDFORD LANCASTRIANS This branch of the Lancastrians descended from John of Gloucester, 1st Duke of Bedford. A talented military commander and administrator, he also served as Regent of France during the reign of Henry VI. His happy marriage with Anne of Burgundy resulted in only one child...
  8. CaptainShadow

    Possibilities for a Richard of Conisburgh TL?

    Richard of Conisburgh (1) is one of the most interesting (IMHO) figures of 15th century England. Known as the "poorest of earls". He was father to the richest man in England and claimant to the throne, Richard,Duke of York (2). So,my question is what are the possible PoDs for a surviving...
  9. Margaret Beaufort, Yorkist Queen of England
    Threadmarks: One - the Countess of March

    Lady Margaret Beaufort (1443-) was born a year before the premature death of her father, the heir of the Lancastrian cause: John Beaufort, Duke of Somerset. Not long after his death, the wardship of Margaret's lands, and eventually Margaret herself, was delivered to William de la Pole, Duke of...
  10. WI: Henry VII Was Never Born

    Okay, so this was a late-at-night consideration of mine but I haven’t been able to get it out of my head, and I haven’t been able to find any posts discussing this. So, say Margaret’s mother is awarded custody of her rather than her eventually being passed onto the Tudors, so she never married...
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