The Footprint of Mussolini - TL
By the way: I am starting to wonder how different the Italian immigration post-war would be. With Libya and the AOI, surely less Italians will emigrate out of Italian territories... Surely there won't be a large community in Australia. But less would go in the Americas as well, in particular Brazil.
Argentina would be a really interesting case... Because post-war emigration OTL was low, but the Italian community took roots and its descendants would still cover more or less half of the population TTL. But certainly, Peron and Evita won't certainly snuff away the possibility to work with Mussolini and vice versa... Just image her ITTL rainbow tour in Europe being more triumphal especially when in Rome...
Argentina would be a really interesting case... Because post-war emigration OTL was low, but the Italian community took roots and its descendants would still cover more or less half of the population TTL. But certainly, Peron and Evita won't certainly snuff away the possibility to work with Mussolini and vice versa... Just image her ITTL rainbow tour in Europe being more triumphal especially when in Rome...
If the tree start speaking burn the forest! If the mountain start talking bomb it to rubble!
Fascist solution!
I am kidding.
Ehm no, Italy already controlled more tha a third of the country at the time and for at least 5 years, military speaking the Albanians even with the italian troops low on morale and with the malaria ravaging them never had the capacity to beat them; it was just a political decision due to the internal italian problem of the 'red biennium'...so no, nobody kicked italian ass
Frankly knowing Albania military capacity and situation...i think is much more credible the fascist account
Your point? Military speaking in all the three event Sinai (and more) was conquered, controlled and seized with the Egyptian being crushed (except in 1973 naturally); there was external political pressure that saved Nasser skin and neck but Israel basically rolled over the Egyptian military
Like Israel has done in OTL? Just saying...probably ITTL version of operation Musketeer or maybe just Israel alone like in the six days war
And you are forgetting that URSS and USA are not the superpowers that we know, ITTL they are more Great Powers (even if the USA will be probably the number one Great power) so their mean to politically pressure another Great Power will be much less than OTL; hell, the British (and the French) will probably politically support the Fascist block against Egypt and/or Algeria.
You know would Mussolini ever think of removing the Monarchy and declaring a Fascist Republic? I mean Mussolini wanted a Fascist Republic, but he kept the Monarchy because many Aristocrats and Nobles were sympathetic to his Fascist ideas during his rise to power.
More the fact that the Army was strongly monarchist and if he try something of funny he will get a strong case of sudden lead poisoning
OTL, most emigration post-1945 went to Europe, especially West Germany. But Fascism will instead call Italians to the motherland, as it did in the Interbellum, which is particularly interesting...
...because OTL, their relationship actually became rocky due to the Fascist arrogance and heavy attempts to actually influence and bring back the huge community there (a huge threat to Argentinian prosperity).
This article is very interesting. However, the USA looms though, and may well help them overlook such 'minor' points over the pros of a closer cooperation.
One thing is for sure - Sudtiroler Germans are in for beautiful Calabrian (and other such necessary places) holidays. Especially if they made the mistake of heeding the Nutzis' siren song.
Why? This number is based on italian documents regarding the invasion and various testimonies. To give you an idea : the Italians immediately carried away the bodies of their dead and washed blood from the streets and harbor of Durrës to cover up the number of their casualties.
Israel managed to basically conquer Egypt in OTL? I must have missed this.
You know that your idea of beating Egypt is basically beyond British and french best hopes during the Suez Crisis right?
You are basically suggesting that Italy and Israel could be able to invade Egypt's coast and the Nile and somehow being able to hold it for more than a few hours.
Italy is a great power whose main allies are stuck on the continent and don't have the possibility to actually help Mussolini in North Africa.
Also Britain is going to be pissed off at Italy for helping Rhodesia and South Africa while one of the forwards already said that France and Israel don't have a good relationship because Paris has become too friendly with the arabs
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No, it had basically obliterated the entire Egyptian military a couple of time and occupied Gaza (at the time Egyptian territory) and the Sinai (keeping it for a decade, notwithstanding the military attempt of Egypt to oust them) and this mean also menace or control the Suez canal, add this Italian capacity and resources...and Cairo is not in a good situation
During the Suez Crisis Egypt was already military beaten, point; Nasser transformed that in a political success only because the USA pressed the ANglo-French to retire...and the entire operation was not to conquer and controlling Egypt but to oust Nasser and bring a more amicable goverment...and this is totally in the capacity of the italian-Israelian alliance.
Military speaking Egypt unless it very different from OTL don't stand a single change, point, no semantic will change that, no nitpicking or blindside will change that.
Hummmmmmmm...yes, even if Israel will targeting Sinai and Suez, first and foremost
Because the Albanians were hardly organizated or have the capacity to hold the italian forces for anything more than some hours (and due more to italian logistic problem) and frankly i have not seen such numbers even in anti-fascist pubblication and why do that, they already controlled the press and the men in the field already know the truth
Absent intervention by other great powers almost certainly yes. Hell I think 21st Century Italy could probably invade, if for some godforsaken reason they wanted to (and the US didn't tell them, politely, to knock it off).
How? In OTL Egyptians kept supporting Nasser until his death, even when it looked like Britain and France were going to win the Suez Crisis. Why would it be different ITTL? Every single government that is either imposed by Israel and Italy or openly sues for peace with them will be seen as a bunch of traitors and overtrown by the comunists or the islamists.
Yes, Israel can totally conquer the Suez Canal and keep it under its control. Nevermind the fact it failed in 1973 ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of) or the fact that logistically speacking holding it would be a nightmare.
Propaganda purpopes towards both the italian civilian population and Hitler(who had just annexed Czechoslovakia without telling Italy about it first). Basically Mussolini wanted to show everyone he was a worthy member of the Pact of Steel and that he was a military genious (like he had already done in Ethiopia).
Admitting that he had lost so many men against such an easy target would have been even more humiliating than being beaten by Zog.
A lot can happen before we get to the point the OTL date of the Suez War, there is a still a possibility of Britain retaining a lot more of her Empire, or influence in the region. Nasser might not even happen. Israel is going to be fundamentally different to OTL.
This world is going to come out VERY different compared to OTL by 1945 let alone 1956 - I don't think OTL comparisons are going to help here as they simply will not apply to the region.
This world is going to come out VERY different compared to OTL by 1945 let alone 1956 - I don't think OTL comparisons are going to help here as they simply will not apply to the region.