Well that satisfies my question about the BC conversions, but what class were the three BB conversions originally? Pre-Great War means it could be anything from the pre-dreadnaughts up to the konigs. Literally any of these, converted to a carrier, would indeed be a deathtrap against 1941 enemies. Plus, I doubt they have room for more than 30-40 planes, if that.

Would certainly be interesting for ATL kancolle, though :p
 
Chapter Two Hundred Forty-Two


21st September 1941


Near Kiev, Ukraine

They had finally reached their operational goal on the western shore of the Dnieper River, weeks behind schedule. The Brass wasn’t complaining too much because the 2nd Army had actually met their goals. Horst had seen that the deliberate style of advancing like they had in Spain had serious drawbacks. Particularly against an opponent that wasn’t engaging. While the Spanish had engaged and gutted themselves on the advancing German armies the Russians were destroying anything useful and falling back. It could be likened to trying to nail gelatin to wall.

Horst had sent word up the food chain that he suspected that the Russians were trading space for time. Time to do what? That was the question. A day later and the response came in the form of a staff car pulling into the 4th Panzer Division’s bivouac and he found himself alone with General von Wolvogle in the Oberst’s office.

“Take a good look around, Major” Wolvogle said “Because if I’m right this is as far as we’re going to get for probably the next year, perhaps two, depending on how bad things get.”

So half of Ukraine, all of belarus and what about the baltics. With estonia so close there is no where to retreat in front of Leningrad. Either that must fall or there will be an epitc meat grinder were the Luftwaffe will do their best to destroy the Russians?
 
So they're going for the oil to starve the beast. But they're getting the Napoleon treatment.

I really like Wovogle. Shades of a German Patton (including the crazy), while being farsighted (a true rebel).

What Jacob's fleet is doing will be most interesting, especially if it ends up not being a Taranto-esque strike on Vladivostok. As I suspected, they're taking the VERY LONG route circling around into the middle of the Pacific. Morse code visual signals become all the more important in this environment.
 
Part 22, Chapter 243
Chapter Two Hundred Forty-Three


7th October 1941

Northern Sea of Japan

All the skulking around the Northern Pacific had come to this. Jacob watched as hundreds of airplanes launched and circled over the fleet in the predawn light. He didn’t claim to understand much about naval aviation. It was an area that had never interested him in the past and that had become apparent to when he’d been present for the mission briefing. Getting talked to like a six-year-old by the Ensign who was explaining the mission was an experience he could have lived without. He had been on the other side of such briefings on countless occasions and he’d instantly recognized it for what it was. It was not as if this was complex mission. If it floated, rolled or provided support for the Russian war effort in the Pacific then it was a legitimate target. Those targets would get hit and if the opportunity presented itself then they’d bounce the rubble. Jacob had concluded that it was something that he needed rectify if he was going to continue with his career.

In other areas, no one had any doubts about Jacob’s abilities. He saw this when two crewmen walked past him and he detected the usual awe that these sorts got when word about his ability to use radios and the barest intelligence to guide a fleet undetected through less than friendly waters. Already they had to pass dangerously close to the Japanese home islands once. On the way back out they’d need to repeat that except every Navy in the North Pacific would know that they were somewhere out there.

Jacob just hoped that their faith in him was not misplaced.

As Jacob watched, the fighters aboard the SMS Albatros, formally the SMS Kronprinz Wilhelm, took off and the whole formation turned west towards Vladivostok. The war had just come to the far east…


Vladivostok, Primorsky Krai, Russia

Being in the Russian Navy here meant that one could have privileges that far outstripped their actual rank. As a Chief Petty Officer and a clerk, Vasily had it particularly easy. Just keep things within screaming distance of good order. If some high-ranking officer took issue and a memo got fired off to Moscow they’d probably all die of old age before such a matter ever saw the light of day. If it did, what would they do? Send him to Siberia? A bit late for that wasn’t it. He mused on this as he walked down the street towards the warehouses where he worked about ten minutes late.

Vasily heard the whistling buzz of an airplane’s engine. Must be an unscheduled plane coming in from somewhere, he thought. That was hardly unusual, there had been a lot of that lately as diplomatic traffic had increased and this had been a waystation in this effort. The sound increased as the airplane got closer and the sound of more engines came into earshot, the Air Force must be up to something, he thought.

The warehouse that had been Vasily’s destination exploded into a cloud of splinters. He ducked instinctively as an airplane streaked past at what seemed like only meters over his head. He caught a glimpse of dark gray on light gray camouflage and the unmistakable markings of the German Navy where they had absolutely no business being.

There were more explosions, a large fireball was seen rising over the harbor, another from the railyard that was the terminus of the Trans-Siberian railroad.

A couple hours later Vasily was dragooned into help with the fire-fighting effort when the next wave arrived…


Baranovichi, Belorussia SSR

It had been a long time coming but the moment was finally here. Thousands of artillery pieces that had been moved into place and carefully camouflaged. They had been fighting to hold this in place while the reserve armies had been moved into place. In the early morning hours, the shelling started and the counter attack commenced…


9th October 1941

North of Kiev, Ukraine SSR

Hans was aiming down the sights of his rifle shooting at the Russians as they came again. Horst had ended up in charge of the Regiment after the Oberst had disappeared in the initial onslaught. The whole thing had been a mess from the start. Everyone knew that Major Horst had met with General von Wolvogle late last month. Judging by the reaction that Horst had when all Hell broke loose it was obvious what the subject they must have been talked about was.

They had been subjected to rolling artillery followed by thousands of infantry. Hans heard the sound of a cartridge cooking off inside the barrel of one of their machine guns. Something he had grown increasingly familiar with over the last day and a half. He pulled the trigger and watched as the Russian troops went to ground. There was also a considerable amount of fire back, the sound of Russian submachine guns was something else that had become distressingly familiar. There was also a chugging sound of those light machine guns that they had.

After a time, the attack finally let up, the line held, barely. That was when the word came down that they were falling back. It was with a bitter taste in their mouths that they found themselves retreating back down the road back to Kowel. But their left flank was exposed and it was that or risk encirclement. The fact that it was starting to snow didn’t lighten the mood.
 
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Nicely done! A big victory (if they get out successfully) matched against a Soviet counterattack. With no "No retreat" orders, the attackers casualties should be high.

Of course, Vladivostok's infrastructure is likely more of a valuable target than any ships present. One interesting concern: What does international law say about neutral ships that are collateral damage? IIRC, they're taking their chances in a case like this. However, Soviet propaganda will magnify neutral casualties, saying that American or Japanese ships were deliberately targeted, if there were any hit.

I'd expect diplomatic reactions to be based more on whatever bias is already there, than on law and reality.

On another note, why did they convert battleships rather than battlecruisers?. If the armor belt has been reduced and the hull lengthened, SMS Albatross might gt up to 23-24 knots.

I wonder what mischief they might run into on the way home. Submarines fly no flags, and Japan is not going to be happy about this...
 
Nicely done! A big victory (if they get out successfully) matched against a Soviet counterattack. With no "No retreat" orders, the attackers casualties should be high.

Of course, Vladivostok's infrastructure is likely more of a valuable target than any ships present. One interesting concern: What does international law say about neutral ships that are collateral damage? IIRC, they're taking their chances in a case like this. However, Soviet propaganda will magnify neutral casualties, saying that American or Japanese ships were deliberately targeted, if there were any hit.

I'd expect diplomatic reactions to be based more on whatever bias is already there, than on law and reality.

On another note, why did they convert battleships rather than battlecruisers?. If the armor belt has been reduced and the hull lengthened, SMS Albatross might gt up to 23-24 knots.

I wonder what mischief they might run into on the way home. Submarines fly no flags, and Japan is not going to be happy about this...

Neutral ships in a belligerent harbor must take their chances.

The only Kronprinz Wilhelm I can think of was a liner, not a battleship.
 
In OTL, the dreadnought Kronprinz was renamed Kronprinz Wilhelm in January, 1918. It could be the liner, also.

The liner, which became an auxiliary cruiser, was interened in the USA before the POD, so certainly survived the war, and would have been returned to Germany. Either ship is a possibility.
 
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I didn't know that. Regardless, both are somewhat subpar choices, compared to a Mackensen hull, or even one of the other battlecruisers

Mackensens would probably still be battlecruisers. Thinking things through, the liner would be a better conversion than the dreadnought; the German dreadnoughts were short ranged ships
 
Part 22, Chapter 244
Chapter Two Hundred Forty-Four


10th October 1941

North Pacific

They were still being shadowed by the Japanese three days later and Jacob was becoming annoyed by the fact that the fleet was limited to less than twenty knots, the decrepit machinery on some of the conversions was giving them the problems that they’d been anticipating. The raid on Vladivostok had gone well enough, three waves with little resistance. The problem was that before they blew up the radio station someone managed to get out a distress call. Everyone within several thousand kilometers knew what had happened after that.

It had been dicey getting back through the Sōya Strait at the northern point of Hokkaidō. He’d thought that they had slipped by unseen until a day and a half later when they had spotted a Destroyer on the horizon. There had also been several contacts on radar, large contacts, just over the horizon. Jacob’s orders had been to hit the Russian port, his orders had also strongly urged him not to start a wider war with the Japanese if he could. They were steaming east at the best possible speed.

Jacob had directed the fleet through a squall line in an effort to give the Japanese the slip and it didn’t quite have the effect that he’d hoped for. As the sun was setting the lookouts spotted a battleship that they estimated was at least two hundred and sixty meters in length, comparable to the SMS Preussen that was Jacob’s flag ship.

The Japanese broke off the pursuit sometime during the night.


Warsaw, Poland

The situation was still chaotic as Kurt walked into the situation room. The people there were still trying to get a handle on things. Belorussia was a mess and the Ukraine was worse. The 2nd Army was having to fight their way clear and were not having an easy time of it and that included 502nd Heavy Panzer Brigade that he’d once been posted to. The situation in the Baltics was a bit better but the offensive against Leningrad had been suspended.

Good news had come in from the Pacific, word had reached them of a successful strike on a distant Russian port. It didn’t mean very much in the greater scheme of things but it had come at the perfect time.

While everyone else was agitated by the situation General von Wolvogle stood there amidst it all with an expression that basically said, “I told you so” but it was clear that he wasn’t finding any pleasure in what he was seeing. Rumors were flying around about how Wolvogle had been making arrangements to return to Berlin. Kurt had wracked his brain trying to think of what the General could possibly hope to accomplish there and had come up empty. Everyone knew that the Emperor hated him and everyone else in official Berlin thought he was a loose cannon.


12th October 1941

Near Luhyny, Ukraine SSR

Hans hadn’t slept in days, he felt like his legs were made of rubber and his eyes were full of sand. One of the fortunate parts was that they were falling back on their own supply line so there were no shortages of anything. The other was that the same bogy forest that had caused them so much trouble in August was preventing the road from being cut. That was cold comfort considering that the 140th Regiment was the rearguard for not just the 4th Panzer Division but the entire 2nd Army. There was nothing behind them but an entire Soviet Army Corps.

The burnt-out village was one of the many along the road that they had seen before. A single street, houses, a store and tavern. The only difference between this place and a thousand other villages throughout Eastern Europe was that Hans didn’t see anything that was an obvious church. That was when Hans saw something in the corner of his eye. Hans had his rifle pointed in that that direction but didn’t pull the trigger when he saw that it was an elderly man. The old man said something to Hans that he couldn’t understand. Later he would learn that the old man had asked him why they couldn’t have chased the Russians out of the Ukraine for good.


Vladivostok, Primorsky Krai

Vasily was helping with the ongoing clean up. After the attack, there had been a whole lot of official notice to the Pacific city. Pretty much everyone with a higher rank than him had gotten a bullet in the head for their failure to defend the region. The commander of the local airfield was said to have been tortured to death before his execution could be carried out. Vasily wasn’t sure what he could possibly have done with a handful of obsolete biplanes, all of which had been destroyed while still on the ground. Vladivostok had become a decidedly unhealthy place over the last few days.

Between the rail yards and the harbor, it was a tossup as to which had sustained more damage. Vasily was supervising the cleanup of the train station that had been gutted by fire. This was easier than trying to make sense of the railyard just outside, the whole area had been pulverized from the air. Ordnance had said that the bombs that had landed had mostly been of the two hundred fifty kilo demolition type but they had packed a larger punch than expected.

It was then that Vasily’s luck finally turned. A Captain came through asking around if anyone wanted to volunteer to transfer to the Army and join the fighting in the west. Vasily would actually get a promotion if he took the deal, becoming a Warrant Officer in the Army. Most of all it would take him far away from this current mess before the Commissars had a chance to come knocking on his door.
 
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things are bad when a active war-zone sounds like a genuinely safer place to be then where you currently happen to be.
Salin's attention is upon the place that the Germans successfully attacked, very wise move to get as far away as possible.

Looks like Jacob just found out that the Japanese have a super battleship (either the Yamato or the Musashi, I bet). Nice to know the germans have their own, can't wait to see a showdown between them.
 
Looks like Jacob just found out that the Japanese have a super battleship (either the Yamato or the Musashi, I bet). Nice to know the germans have their own, can't wait to see a showdown between them.

Length is about the same as the HMS Hood and the Iowas of OTL, so it's not clear that Japan has a 70,000 ton ship...though clearly there is indeed a BIG one there.
 
Salin's attention is upon the place that the Germans successfully attacked, very wise move to get as far away as possible.

Looks like Jacob just found out that the Japanese have a super battleship (either the Yamato or the Musashi, I bet). Nice to know the germans have their own, can't wait to see a showdown between them.

At this time the carriers are like those annoying little mammals scurrying around keeping out of the way of the dinosaurs. Given optimal conditions a battleship can fire a shell 20-30 miles; pretty soon a bomber will be able to deliver the same payload a couple of hundred miles away with a higer probability of getting a hit. Plus a shell just lets in air while a torpedo lets in water.

The longer this goes on the less likely a battleship duel is and the more likely that battleships get swarmed under by airplanes.
 
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