Rumsfeldia: Fear and Loathing in the Decade of Tears

Discussion in 'Alternate History Discussion: After 1900' started by Drew, Nov 18, 2012.

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  1. Voltron64 Well-Known Member

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    It's called the Narcissist's Prayer.
     
  2. Arthur Marston Well-Known Member

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    That reminds me, there's another reason for the American people to hate the CV regime-it denied them the chance to exact justice on Rumsfeld and his cronies by getting to them first.
     
  3. PGF Well-Known Member

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    how was he dehumanized? do you have a link to In the twilight of Hope?
     
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  5. Bookmark1995 Bookmark95 Reborn!

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    Not really. Rumsfeld and his cronies might be seen as the quintessential "asshole victims." They brought terror and ruin to America, and were later done in by the same terror.

    Also, there is a lot of overlap between the two groups. A lot of Rumsfelders, being utterly amoral individuals, happily hopped onto the CV bandwagon. They were basically the same side of the same coin, only one used nukes and crosses in their war on the American people.
     
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  6. Bookmark1995 Bookmark95 Reborn!

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    Yeah. This is the definitely the mindset of the Rumsfeldians and the CVers: extreme rationalization of the most horrific acts. The last part, "you deserved it" will be how the CVs feel as they destroy what little remained of America.
     
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  7. The Watcher Well-Known Member

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    How's the Aliens franchise doing in TTL?
     
  8. PGF Well-Known Member

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    man reading that again it reinforced the disgustingness of the CVers.

    When will the full blown civil war happen and we see the madmen deposed.
     
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  9. Bookmark1995 Bookmark95 Reborn!

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    Probably either being made abroad (in order to take a swipe at Rummy) or made at home (to take a swipe at Rummy's perceived enemies).

    Blowing up Congress is a sheer sign of poor governance.
     
  10. Knightmare Well-Known Member

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    Is it really though? I mean, it's Congress.
     
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  11. Bookmark1995 Bookmark95 Reborn!

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    HAHA.
     
  12. 4WantofaNail Mr. Self Destruct

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    If made abroad I could see a subplot about the Marines in the movie getting sent to fight the titular creatures with faulty equipment as supplied by their corporate oligarchs.

    Since we've mentioned one Sci-Fi classic franchise I might as well wonder aloud what's going to become of The Terminator. I could honestly see it getting made without significant altering by Rumsfeldian censors.
     
  13. Saint_007 The King Of Nothing

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    Might take some time, I'd imagine, between Drew's schedule and the fact that we have to cover a civil war that might take years.

    However, I'm beginning to think we're going to get even less trials than we did at Nuremberg. The Great Teacher and his cronies aren't going to let themselves be taken; they'll do last stands than surrender or give themselves to secular trials.

    The one I'm looking forwards to is Geraldo's.
     
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  14. The Jovian The Red Gas Giant

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    One way it could work is the Ridley Scott still makes the original film as OTL, released at the beginning of the Rumsfeld administration (around '81 at the latest). Then due to James Cameron never being inspired to be a filmmaker watching Star Wars and as a result remaining an average joe Canadian trucker the sequel might never be made as it was the success of The Terminator and Cameron's strong pitch for Aliens that resulted in the film being greenlit after the studios felt that the first one didn't make enough money.
     
  15. Clandango Disestablishmentarianist

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    This thread is still going or was recently revived? Sorry if it is a stupid question. Can't risk reading posts here incase it has been going a while. I adored the first timeline, as well as the parts of this I read before, and I wouldn't want to spoil the surprises for myself.
     
  16. Bookmark1995 Bookmark95 Reborn!

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    Sporadically.
     
  17. The Southeast Well-Known Member

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    It's still going but updates are once every several months.
     
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  18. PGF Well-Known Member

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    oh ya whats richard nixon up to
     
  19. Bookmark1995 Bookmark95 Reborn!

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    By 1990, he is effectively running the anti-CV rump government in the Northeast, alongside the other Northeastern governors, including his good buddy Spiro.
     
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  20. Bookmark1995 Bookmark95 Reborn!

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    I can picture what MLK's reaction would be to the rise of Rumsfeldia: a very quiet "I told you so."

    Remember, MLK was a Bernie Sanders style socialist: fighting for the economic rights of the people, but wanting to work inside the system to get those rights.

    He was also deeply opposed to Vietnam. His "Beyond Vietnam" speech, he criticized the government for spending more on war than on the American poor.

    I think he would see Rumsfeldia and the CV as the inevitable result of a society refusing to spend its wealth on a safety net for the poor, and willing to waste money on wars in places like South Africa.
     
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