Blame the TNO devs for making him the starting leader of the Philippines and having him be a Fascist in-game.So Marcos’ main opponent becomes our Marcos expy?
Ironic.
Blame the TNO devs for making him the starting leader of the Philippines and having him be a Fascist in-game.So Marcos’ main opponent becomes our Marcos expy?
Ironic.
Well his bio does say that he’s a very reluctant leaderBlame the TNO devs for making him the starting leader of the Philippines and having him be a Fascist in-game.
I thought it took 6 months for a thread to die?With release 5 days from now, thinking of reviving this thread.
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I honestly dont see this one working. These days there are no explicit popular Chinese apoligists in our goverment or congress and I dont think it be the case for literal nazis. Maybe a "Lets be in eternal detente with them" type guy but some one who explicitly says there awesome and wants to import there system over here? No.Richard B. Spencer, a representative from Massachusetts and a rising star in the Yockey wing of the National Progressive Party. Spencer has gained notoriety for his unashamed praise of the Greater German Reich, Adolf Hitler, and Albert Speer, once publicly thanking them for saving Europe from Bolshevism. Spencer is pictured here giving a speech in Hanover, Germany, to commemorate the anniversary of the German Reich's defeat of a resurgent USSR in the Second West Russian War. Though a controversial figure, Spencer is a rising star of the American far right, and many Conservatives and Centrists view him as having a point, in light of the economic success achieved by Nazi Germany under Fuhrer Speer and his successors.
I know that this happens but like, its just like we do with China OTL. It's horrible but you can make the Argument of that we are in the cursed timeline alreadyOh gosh... This is so utterly, utterly cursed... I especially love that part about the Hollywood having to kowtow the the Nazis in order to have their films be screened in the lucrative German market.
I supposed that in TTL, a reorganized and relicensed Siemens under the control of the German government would be their equivalent of Huawei?
I do get what you're saying, but in TNO there is an established Fascist wing of the NPP in the Yockeys, who are ideologically Fascist. Plus, white supremacy is more popular in the US than Chinese style authoritarian Communism (there are some members of congress who I would describe as far leftists but they're of the libertarian left variety). So Spencer is working in a context where something that there's already a base for in TNOTL is amplified by the "success" of Speerite Germany. It could probably stand to be toned down though, you're right.I honestly dont see this one working. These days there are no explicit popular Chinese apoligists in our goverment or congress and I dont think it be the case for literal nazis. Maybe a "Lets be in eternal detente with them" type guy but some one who explicitly says there awesome and wants to import there system over here? No.
Well, I should say that this Reich is worse than China, though of course both are totalitarian.I know that this happens but like, its just like we do with China OTL. It's horrible but you can make the Argument of that we are in the cursed timeline already
I mean, modern day Chinese fashion industry right now is using forced labour of a minority group that gets shaved to sell their hair.I do get what you're saying, but in TNO there is an established Fascist wing of the NPP in the Yockeys, who are ideologically Fascist. Plus, white supremacy is more popular in the US than Chinese style authoritarian Communism (there are some members of congress who I would describe as far leftists but they're of the libertarian left variety). So Spencer is working in a context where something that there's already a base for in TNOTL is amplified by the "success" of Speerite Germany. It could probably stand to be toned down though, you're right.
Edit: Also, I should say that Spencer here publicly supports the Speer line of 'the atrocities were horrible but were entirely the fault of the SS, who were dealt with, and the Reich is good now' though privately you will find him ranting about Jews and Blacks trying to rule the world.
Well, I should say that this Reich is worse than China, though of course both are totalitarian.
Well, in the case of Speer's Germany it's that type of slave labor but on a much larger scale across Europe from the Vistula to the Urals, and involving brutal reprisals against rebellious slaves. Plus, with the need to appeal to the German market American media is also much less diverse; featuring Jewish characters in your film, for instance, is viewed as being a very courageous and principled stance.I mean, modern day Chinese fashion industry right now is using forced labour of a minority group that gets shaved to sell their hair.
I'd say modern day China isn't very different from Speer's Germany
Also, in terms of films. Remember we have to be careful to depict the KMT in WW2 movies because Chinese influence. Aka. We have to lie and ignore the actual army that fought against Imperial Japan. I'd say that's uber fucked
Well, in the case of Speer's Germany it's that type of slave labor but on a much larger scale across Europe from the Vistula to the Urals, and involving brutal reprisals against rebellious slaves. Plus, with the need to appeal to the German market American media is also much less diverse; featuring Jewish characters in your film, for instance, is viewed as being a very courageous and principled stance.
No matter what criticisms are leveled against this film and other Hollywood movies, they continue to make money, and hence will continue to be made in a way that does not offend Nazi Germany's Orpo censors.
Also, in terms of films. Remember we have to be careful to depict the KMT in WW2 movies because Chinese influence. Aka. We have to lie and ignore the actual army that fought against Imperial Japan. I'd say that's uber fucked
I can see this world being more inclined to crack down on "suspected wokeness" than our own world, and being more socially reactionary.
I honestly dont see this one working. These days there are no explicit popular Chinese apologists in our goverment or congress and I dont think it be the case for literal nazis. Maybe a "Lets be in eternal detente with them" type guy but some one who explicitly says there awesome and wants to import there system over here? No.
I don't think Spencer himself works through. The Yockeys need America to really shit the bed to climb to power. I'd say Bannon or a less odious but still scummy alt-right figure than Spencer works better.