Osman Reborn; The Survival of Ottoman Democracy [An Ottoman TL set in the 1900s]
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He designed him heir as the nearest male line of the not ruling branch of Habsburg house. (in 1875 Franz Joseph had a male heir still living, even if unmarried)
Hmm. What's that in the corner? Something about Chinese and Ottomans?
Since it's starts with Karl ( I assume the Austrian emperor), either he is inviting them for his coronation's or like inaugurational speech, congratulating them for something or like "we hope to work with them in the future"
How the hell did I miss the assassination part? Well that's a good way to get rid of mustache guy at least.
In reality it may be a conspiracy between the more nationalistic members of the government by faking the death of the man with the mustache, perhaps he will appear later.
I admit the Anti Semitism laws surprised me, I kind of figured they would be more temporary measures, that sadly become permanent.
Though a known ''lover of Jews'' reputation is going to hurt the Ottoman reputation a lot in this world sadly, expect a bunch of weird, creepy hate filled stories/fanfiction about Jews selling out their wives and daughters to the Ottomans for...Christian enslaved babies from Greeks/enslaved catholic for their rituals I guess and basic human rights the damned monsters!
About the whole hatred of Jews, I think this period the whole mess of conspiracism less than two hundred years ago, rather than the idea that conspiracies' exists it's that every conspiracy ever is tied one group pulling the strings, add Napoleon whole messianic image that people used to say he was an anti Christ and the Jews, for you know exploiting them, well the transformation from Jews of being objects of scorn and casual abuse to being something to be destroyed took place during this period.
Well that and the same thing disturbingly enough happened repeatedly during the Greek war of 1830s as well.
O yeah on Brightside is the Protocols of the Elders of Zion won't have as much impact here, the reason why it spread so much during the 20th century, in a couple of years of each other almost half the world's population centers of self collapsed. The Qing in 1912 then the Republic of China in 1915, the Ottoman, the Russian empire and German, Austro Hungarian in 1918, people when this happens look for something to blame, some one cause rather than hundreds of causes and the traditional scapegoat. Rather their are still loads of empires and just Italy and Germany got wrecked by their own mistakes.
Granted I would expect more of, Jews are behind the socialist's causes everywhere, their unknowingly backing them by trying to make life better for the poor and grant more rights to people, which is something that will benefit Jews and their secretly without them being aware being backed by them and their Rabbis.. trying to spread Judaism I think? I really don't get that train of thought of A to B.
Though a known ''lover of Jews'' reputation is going to hurt the Ottoman reputation a lot in this world sadly, expect a bunch of weird, creepy hate filled stories/fanfiction about Jews selling out their wives and daughters to the Ottomans for...Christian enslaved babies from Greeks/enslaved catholic for their rituals I guess and basic human rights the damned monsters!
About the whole hatred of Jews, I think this period the whole mess of conspiracism less than two hundred years ago, rather than the idea that conspiracies' exists it's that every conspiracy ever is tied one group pulling the strings, add Napoleon whole messianic image that people used to say he was an anti Christ and the Jews, for you know exploiting them, well the transformation from Jews of being objects of scorn and casual abuse to being something to be destroyed took place during this period.
Well that and the same thing disturbingly enough happened repeatedly during the Greek war of 1830s as well.
O yeah on Brightside is the Protocols of the Elders of Zion won't have as much impact here, the reason why it spread so much during the 20th century, in a couple of years of each other almost half the world's population centers of self collapsed. The Qing in 1912 then the Republic of China in 1915, the Ottoman, the Russian empire and German, Austro Hungarian in 1918, people when this happens look for something to blame, some one cause rather than hundreds of causes and the traditional scapegoat. Rather their are still loads of empires and just Italy and Germany got wrecked by their own mistakes.
Granted I would expect more of, Jews are behind the socialist's causes everywhere, their unknowingly backing them by trying to make life better for the poor and grant more rights to people, which is something that will benefit Jews and their secretly without them being aware being backed by them and their Rabbis.. trying to spread Judaism I think? I really don't get that train of thought of A to B.
It is a tragedy for the loss of the Emperor of Danube at the hands of Hitler's gun, let alone this happens after the reformation of Austria-Hungary into Empire of Dunabe. A real tragedy. At least, the emperor did a lot of positive things for his fatherland even though not everybody appreciates his effort.
Good thing the Ottomans enforced the law of religious tolerance and All is Equal before the Sultan otherwise things will spiraled out of control. Perhaps, the Ottoman Empire will be truly tolerant society in pre-1820 years unlike what happens in OTL. Though, this doesn't mean the Ottomans are out of the woods yet. It's more likely something ugly will happen as result of promoting religious tolerance by law since not everyone will give up their extremist especially antisemitism that easily.
Good for Poles under Russian rule at least, though you cannot pleased everyone. At least, better than nothing and intense Russification. The Baltics and Finns really want something similar to Congress of Poland in their own respective homelands. Unsurprisingly, the Baltics and Finland are among the most 'restive' parts of the Russian Empire.
Good thing the Ottomans enforced the law of religious tolerance and All is Equal before the Sultan otherwise things will spiraled out of control. Perhaps, the Ottoman Empire will be truly tolerant society in pre-1820 years unlike what happens in OTL. Though, this doesn't mean the Ottomans are out of the woods yet. It's more likely something ugly will happen as result of promoting religious tolerance by law since not everyone will give up their extremist especially antisemitism that easily.
Good for Poles under Russian rule at least, though you cannot pleased everyone. At least, better than nothing and intense Russification. The Baltics and Finns really want something similar to Congress of Poland in their own respective homelands. Unsurprisingly, the Baltics and Finland are among the most 'restive' parts of the Russian Empire.
I wonder... could the Palatinate eventually be returned to Bavaria, since, you know, it is technically theirs after all. The French seem like they would prefer that, given that they originally wanted to split Germany into so many kingdoms. Unless, of course, the Bavarians either decline it for whatever reason, or they, by that point, have already been subsumed back into Germany.
Mr. Hitler has certainly made his mark ittl, though thankfully, with a whole lot off casualties lower than otl.