Osman Reborn; The Survival of Ottoman Democracy [An Ottoman TL set in the 1900s]
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Vassalization of Bulgaria isn't going to be accepted by the great powers. Not at all.
I wonder how the Serbians and Montenegrins are feeling about these latest developments.
Its impossible for Constantinople to watch this and do absolutely nothing, even if the war is still going around.
The english deals must have been really sweet to make Ottomans to relinquish any claim to Cyprus.
We will see if Bulgaria goes the greek way and gets an economic boom.
they haven't relinquished control over cyprus.
They have transferred the protectorate that britain held in cyprus to greece. the Sultan is still nominally head of Cyprus.
With Bulgaria down the pressure must be really heavy on Serbia and Montenegro, they took their best shot and it's failed. Their options are limited and as said are already seeking peace. The Ottomans can't accept a white peace but neither can they afford to totally dismantle Serbia, doing so would cause Russia to act. So Serbia will get off about the same as Bulgaria, maybe a little worse off as Serbo-Ottoman relations were already on the strained side. That's assuming that the Serbian nationalists don't do something very stupid and sabotage their government's peace ventures.
indeed, the serbian nationalists will continue to be a thorn - especially during peace talks.
I see, well i dont think Cyprus is a powderkeg now. Another front secured.
Post War the Ottomans should try and develop Hejaz and the holy cities more.
Their OTL neglect of the holy cities by that time had very negative impact during the Arab revolt.
Interestingly Sufism should be very big OTL as the Ottomans were a “sufi caliphate” by all accounts; and also a surviving robust and (by what is happening in the timeline) rich Ottoman Empire that claims caliphate and controls holy cities should lead Sufism and the Ashari creed to prosper TTL.
I like the “Sinai” israel approach too
Their OTL neglect of the holy cities by that time had very negative impact during the Arab revolt.
Interestingly Sufism should be very big OTL as the Ottomans were a “sufi caliphate” by all accounts; and also a surviving robust and (by what is happening in the timeline) rich Ottoman Empire that claims caliphate and controls holy cities should lead Sufism and the Ashari creed to prosper TTL.
I like the “Sinai” israel approach too
Welp, Bulgaria is out of the war. Eventually, the Ottomans will accept peace deals with Serbia and Montenegro...as long as it's in favour of the Ottoman Empire and the Great Powers. Though, this will not make Serbians nationalists happy.
American political system won't be the same as in OTL, it wouldn't be surprising if U.S. democracy will become a multi-polar one at this rate.
American political system won't be the same as in OTL, it wouldn't be surprising if U.S. democracy will become a multi-polar one at this rate.
kind off. The issue of having two monarchical heads of cyprus will rear its head soon enough.
The otl neglect largely came due to the bankruptcy from the 1911 war. The cities are from neglected ittl
yes Sufism is a whole lot more stronger ittl.
thanks!
indeed it will not.
the us will have more mainstream political parties than otl ittl.