Sublime Turkic State: Rise of the Turanist League
Izmir is misplaced (should be on that bay north/east of that peninsula to the north of where you put the city)
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Izmir is misplaced (should be on that bay north/east of that peninsula to the north of where you put the city)
ngl, India's position is a little ambiguous to me. help pleasePure boredom filler
Then why doesn't it control Kashmir? Surely the US or Russia would intervene if Pakistan and China somehow declared war on India and annexed the entirety of it?
Heck, Pakistan doesn’t even get Kashmir, only the parts it already had.
But then that’s a nuclear Third World War. It honestly seems strange that it wasn’t already, if we’re pretending China took the region.
I'm sorry, it's a mapping mistake. The basemap was lacking the Indo-Chinese border on this part for some odd reason and I had to draw it myself while looking at the map upside down. I'll fix this.
1. "An US ally" should be "A US ally" (Yoo-Ess does not start with a vowel sound)Pure boredom filler
2. I'm guessing "reemcering" should be "reembursing"?
3. Why on earth does China own all of Kashmir??
4. Very interesting map projection haha, had me spinning my phone around.
The graphic on the extreme left translates: Grano: grains Dattero: Dates Pomodori: Tomatos
Proportional overview of the new agricultural export of Djerid. Dates, which have been grown in the region by Arab tribes for a thousand years, will continue to be cultivated by them. While the grain and tomatoes will be grown by Italian colonial farmers
The next graphic describes the annual agricultural export tonnage in millions of tons.
The rightmost graph describes the expected electric output of the Edda Ciano hydroelectric dam compared to the entire projected energy demands of the Italian Empire until the year 2000. with the caption: The largest structure in the world, the Edda Ciano dam will regulate the water supply to the great lakes and electrify the whole empire.
What's the EU's stance on social issues like migration and LGBT rights? Is it progressive like the OTL European left, or does its alliance with China lead to it being more socially conservative?Pure boredom filler
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Very basic Weimar map in MBAM, based on what I found on the internet.
First, the internal changes.
There was a plan to have a referendum about the restoration of Hanover in the 20s.
There were ideas during the Rhenish Republic and lesser known Palatinate Republic to make them instead Free States of the Reich. Something future Federal Chancellor Adenauer (Who was also seen as a possible future Reichs Chancellor) was keen on duo to his Rhenish and Catholic origins.
The two Mecklenburgs were united like in OTL Nazi Germany. Something that Mecklenburg-Sterlitz was trying to do for a long time.
The Prussian provinces of Saxony, Silesia and Hessen-Nassau got split in 2 like in OTL Nazi Germany (Well technically a part of Saxony was made part of a personal union under the Gauleiter of Thuringia).
Hanover, Brunswick and the Prussian Province of Magdeburg (Like in OTL Nazi Germany between Brunswick and the Prussian provinces of Hanover and Magdeburg)
Greater Hamburg act like in OTL Nazi Germany.
Oldenburg gave up it's two exclaves for Wilhelmshaven like in OTL Nazi Germany.
Now external changes.
The Saar basin joined Germany in 35 like in OTL.
The Free City of Danzig joined somewhere in the 40s, after Gdynia was finished.
Unlike OTL France doesn't find out about the secret talks between the Reich and Belgium, thus succeded in the selling of Eupen-Malmedy.
The German-Danish border follows the Tiedje proposal.
Unlike in OTL the British succeed with their original plan to allow Germany to retain all of Upper Silesia after the plebiscite.
Unlike in OTL the ignored referendum in the Hlučín Region which was 90+% for Germany was accepted and thus Germany retained it.
Lithuania doesn't take the Memel Territory with the help of the French under a fake revolt. Instead like the Saar and Danzig it later voted to join Germany around the 40s.
That's all I could find for an alternate Weimar outside Preuß's idea for a total rework of the states.
Sounds like a more pleasant/ agreeable world than ouurs.
Europe of the Stettin-TL with former Iron Curtain in yellow.
As you can see, in this TL the borders between Austria and the Czech Republic are different, because after WWI German Austria and Czechoslovakia agreed to draw the borders approximately along the linguistic boundary in both southern Bohemia and southern Moravia. Furthermore German Austria could keep the German-speaking areas in OTL Slovenia, including Marburg an der Drau (slov. Maribor). But in exchange Austria had to concede Felsőőrvidék/Burgenland to Hungary and Austria had to stay completely neutral. In the 60s, Italy got a very left-wing government, which decided to hold a plebiscite in South Tyrol about its future belonging to either Italy or Austria. More than 90% voted for Austria. So at the end of the 60s, South Tyrol got officially ceded by Austria. Since that event, the Italians never trusted left-winged parties anymore.
After WWI, the treaty of Trianon was a bit fairer to Hungary. Hungary could not only keep Felsőőrvidék, but also the Hungarian majority-Felvidék (OTL southern Slovakia), the border with Roumania got drawn a little more eastern, so that Nagyvárad (Oradea) stayed within the Hungarian borders, as well as the northern third of Vajdaság (Voivodina) including Szabadka and Zombor and the Muravidék with Muraszombat.
The borders of Turkey have also been drawn differently after the first world war - especially it could keep less of eastern Thracia.
After WWII, Germany had to cede the counties (Landkreise) of Glatz and Halberschwerdt, as well as a few villages south of Leobschütz (Głubczyce) and Katscher (Kietrz) to Czechoslovakia. Also after WWII, the Italian city of Triest has been given to Yugoslavia.
Within the Soviet Union, the borders between the SSRs (at least in Europe) have been drawn differently, more or less based on more historical borders, but "amended". The Moldavian SSR has an actual coast here. Crimea has also never been given to the Ukrainian SSR. A Kertch brigde was build in the late 70s already.
The Nagorno-Karabakh conflinct went off very differently, making Azerbaijan the "bad guys" here, who began all the thing. Armenia is much more victorious than in OTL - also getting (secret) little help from both Greece and Iran. Armenia fully annexed Nagorno-Karabakh and the Link in 1994. Nakhichevan became something like an Armenian puppet state. Since Armenia is closely allied with Russia, Azerbaijan officially gave up its claims in 2009. Turkey never intervened in the conflict and also never officially allied with Azerbaijan, because it feared a war with Russia as a result.
Cyprus never got invaded by Turkey after the Brits left the Island.
Belarus envolved to a typical former-east bloc-republic like Poland, Hungary, Czech Rep., Lithuania, etc. - Lukanshenko didn't become president in 1994 (nor later). Belarus joined EU in 2008, but other than its western neighbours, Belarus didn't join NATO.
Ukraine envolved very similar to OTL until 2013, but with failed Euromaidan. Since then, the country driftet into a (isulated) dictatorship, similar to OTL Belarus. But here, Yanukovych('s Ukraine) is not backed by Russia. At least not very much.
After its independence, Moldavia very soon (in 1992) became a socialist dictatorship by coup. In 2004 - after massive countrywide protests - elections were hold and Moldavia became a western-orientated democracy. The Russian-speaking Transnistria became an autonomous area within Moldavia. The cyrillic alphabet stayed official and a reunion with Romania was rejected.
In late 2004, Vladimir Putin, Dmitry Medvedev and other politicans of the Russian government died after an airplane crash in Slovakia. Since then, Russia followed a policy, resulting in a more "western-friendly" way (much more western-friendly than in OTL), but still being "its own thing". The relations between the US/NATO states and Russia are much more normal. Also there was never a Russo-Georgian war here. Also Russia never attacked Ukraine in this TL.
There was never an islamic revolution in Iran. The country is still a shahdom. There were some big reforms during the 80s and today is a wondeful example of a western-style state in the middle east. Also equal opportunities for women are a surprisingly big thing here.
Since the Arab Spring had no success in this TL (only Tunisia made some lukewarm smaller reforms) and especially there were never (or not that massive) civil wars in Syria and Lybia, the 2015-refugee desaster did not happen in these proportions like in OTL. If it will happen, it will have been much much milder.
Also - as in all my TLs - there was never a Covid 19 going to be happen.
This is also part of this TL.
Milder trianon... It's not much but many Hungarians would be a lot more okay with your borders, since they contain the continuous Hungarian-speaking area.
Also I like that Austria would hold German speaking South Bohemia and Moravia. And of course I like the shapes of Germany and Poland.
The different Karabakh war / bigger Armenia is pretty interesting.
Really nice map. I think, I would like to live in this TL or at least to try it out.
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1. Yes, it should
2. No, 'remercy' means to thank someone
3. I explained it above
4. Thank you for feedback
It's less 'woke' and somewhat more 'tankie', more in the red quadrant of the political compass, which doesn't mean it's conservative, the social issues simply don't get the spotlight.
The French didn't help the Lithuanians, the revolt was against the French occupation and the Lithuanians saw that as an opportunity to take over, the French government wasn't exactly happy to see Lithuanian troops coming their way, threatened to cut diplomatic relations, nearly did, one guy proposed sending the navy but the navy couldn't give a fuck so at some point the French just pulled out
I match your Washington with Columbus, and raise you a Springfield. I would throw Alexandria into the pot as well, but I doubt there are many of those actually left. Wait, we got one in the Beltway. Alright, the Egyptian one still gets a sister city, then.
Enjoyed reading this (and looking at it, it's great!) but slightly baffled at why Iraq and Afghanistan went significantly better here? Note: I suspect that answering this question might risk summoning the Current Politics BearPure boredom filler
EDIT: corrected some slips
(Deleted and reposted because I just realised I had replied to the wrong person. Woops.)
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